Evolution v. Creationism: the Politics, the Science, the Debate (1 of 3)

[GnosticHumanist]

Starts at 7:00.

[Mogley52]

SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy. Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)

[Johnf85]

@Mogley52 keep up. Sub atomic particles appear from nothing for no reason. Einstein wasted the last years of his life because he couldnt cope with quantum mechanics. This is over 50 years old. Why are you still blabbing on about this? The beginning of the universe coming from nothing is as plausible as the notion that sub atomic particles come from nothing, which they do.

[Mogley52]

INTELLIGENT DESIGN MISUNDERSTOOD: If you discovered a sand castle on a lonely beach, you can’t prove someone made it. You didn’t see someone make it. Either it was designed or the random forces of wind and waves made the sand castle. Sand castle didn't have fingerprints.. The wind wiped away the fingerprints? How can you prove there were fingerprints in the first place? By chance or design? Both sides should be free to present their case!

[Mogley52]

Popular evolutionary scientists Dawkins and Hawking refuse to debate with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at ICR, The Institure for Creation Research. They only debate non-scientist creationists. Read my popular Internet articles: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM, ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH, and WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.

[Mogley52]

NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their reproductive system and other vital organs hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.

[thecarrotdude]

HUMANISM

[zencat999]

meta-physics:

physics = the way the matter operates (for lack of a better term).

meta = shit they make up!

[Ematched]

@zencat999 Dude, I love the OED's second definition for "metaphysics":

Any abstruse, confusing, or (deliberately) deceptive form of reasoning or discussion; abstract talk with no basis in or relevance to reality.

[Lightmane321]

who's the babe at 6:08? : )

[pxboyle]

@Lightmane321

She is the product of some seriously intelligent design. I wonder if she would consider co-evolving a little mutation of our own.

[redfeather09]

I thought this was a joke until I saw Ken Miller on the list. How can anyone seriously consider debating this???? Science is empirical, God is metaphysical. You can't prove anything metaphysical, so it needs to remain in the realm of theology and philosophy...end of story.

[tommyk77]

Cleary it can come about naturally, because, um, it exists

[MrMZaccone]

@musikpal Correct, natural selection is not a random chance process.

[zencat999]

@MrMZaccone thats right.

the mutation part is random and then nature either accepts or rejects the mutation.

its kind of a 2 part process.

[TheScienceFoundation]

It's only really a matter of the politics, because the science only supports one side.

[MrMZaccone]

There is pretty much ... only one side.

[TheScienceFoundation]

Exactly.