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  • The facts regarding RF are as follows. 1. We know conclusively that water boils when exposed to the 2.4GHz frequency. (e.g. your microwave oven). 2. The human body is most comprised of water. 3 WiFi, cordless phones, etc use the 2.4GHz radio frequency or higher! Any further questions?

  • Humas are resilliant and they can adapt we are all morphing each day. If we didn't we would have died years ago at a much younger age than you reading this are right now.

    This is what the average lifespan is about, it used to be way younger. Now add all the garbage in the air water and food supply it is going to change still, which way...time will tell.

    How do you feel? I do not feel so well, as I have before. I fact I feel pretty unhealthy. My doctor says I'm great, well he's been fired.

  • @CameronIsADickhead Cigarettes and asbestos and Thalidomide and those "hundreds of other dangerous drugs" have absolutely nothing to do with wifi.

    There exists no scientific evidence that wifi radiation is dangerous.

  • @CameronIsADickhead I'm not the one claiming that wifi is harmful. You are. The onus is on you to come with scientific testable repeatable data, not me.

  • It doesn't make sense that wi-fi isn't safe for children, but totally fine for adults. How can there be some sort of threshold age one reaches where this radiation just stops being harmful (as described in your videos). If something is harmful, then it is, and can't be super horrible and harmful with one age group and harmless for another. I think that's giving adulthood magical status, as if children are weak and adults have grown into some resilient state! Doesn't add up.

  • @virkjun Yes, it is definitely harmful for adults - but it is MORE harmful for kids due to their thinner skulls, increased water in brain and undeveloped immune system.

  • I am not inherently sensitive to emf energy het when I use a wifi amplifier I tend to develop a headache which drops sans the discontinuations of the radio devise.

  • ORGONITE like towerbuster or HHG can help against electrosmog a bit. Just try it, its not expensive. Seeing is believing, dont BELIEVE any paid EXPERTS its based on ORGON energy of Dr. Wilhelm Reich, who was MURDERED

  • it is obvious that a1mint has deep rooted psychological issues and tries to use illusiouns to deceive the ignorant. wi-fi has not been proven safe. Do your own research and learn the truth people do not be misled.

  • @les1chercheur wifi has not been proven unsafe. Studies show it's safe. Wikipedia has an article on it: Wireless_electronic_devices_an­d_health

    The claims made are backed by links.

    And trying to dismiss Wikipedia is not going to work. Important pages are under constant scrutiny, and in essence is reviewed by more people that most other sources of information.

    And there are links to articles backing its claims.

    Your turn. Cat got your tongue?

  • @a1mint - I had no idea that wikipedia (a place where anyone can place anything states that because EMR below the who guidelines it's "safe") - 60 + years of scientific papers, independent & industry state otherwise. Standards are set for a 200 pound 6 foot man, they do not consider children, nor the fact that effects occur before heating is detected. Write what you like, wikipedia is not a scientific journal. Please send me a wifi paper to my email address sent to your inbox thankyou.

  • @les1chercheur No, 60+ years of scientific papers do NOT state that the low levels of radiation from wifi routers are unsafe. It's a lie that you are pushing. You have no provided any link to anything credible with scientific evidence that shows that wifi routers are unsafe in any way.

    You're mixing and confusing things and pretend wifi is the same as high levels of microwave radiation, which it is not.

  • @a1mint -- I have sent you my personal email address (as you know) so you have the chance to show me "scientific studies" that back up your claims that wifi is totally safe. However you would rather argue based on misperceptions. You have chosen not to send me any scientific documentation, is there any reason for your decision, other than to argue? My email address is valid so please kindly send me your scientific papers regarding wifi having no deleterious effects. Thank you for your time.

  • @les1chercheur

    I have given your references.

    The references are right there on the Wikipedia page.

    You, however, have provided nothing.

  • @les1chercheur Wikipedia is not perfect, because it's simply too much work to make every page conform to its policies. Its policies are set out to back claims, make it neutral, scientific, focusing on facts and evidence.

    Most pages that have any kind of importance are pretty decent. You can easily judge by seeing if all the elements are covered, and by verifying the references that are included.

    You can also use the discuss feature to raise points (I wish that part was a little nicer).

  • @a1mint - In all fairness what you have written here (about wikipedia) I agree. There are many good articles which I have cross referenced personally. Unfortunately some topics are lacking in content, possibly because of its complexity and further research is necessary. The section on EMR is partly true, but rather biased, possibly due to not all information which is relevent being presented. Overall wikipedia is a reasonable starting point, but in no way the conclusion of certain articles. 

  • @les1chercheur Wauw, you're being moderately reasonable. No take that one step further, and admit that you do not have any evidence that wifi routers are harmful.

    So what we have is studies showing no link. Nothing showing otherwise so far.

  • @a1mint - in all fairness we have an uncontrolled biological experiment. There has been no studies on children claiming wifi is safe. Obviously there is a very big industry with much to loose, this is why Lloyds of London will not insure cell phone manufacturers. They learned their lesson from tobacco. I have explained please send peer reviewed papers showing no harm to my personal email address. You provided general links which when analyzed carefully are deficent. True - Biopro is a scam.

  • @les1chercheur There has been studies made showing wifi is not a health concern.

  • Don't negotiate with terrorists. Don't debate with fools.

  • I always suspected this you know!

  • I'm having a hard time finding actual evidence. All I'm finding is opinions and scare tactics. Where's the beef?

  • @a1mint - Is it that difficult for you to understand that children are more prone to environmental insults than adults? The child's immune system being in a process of development can have their genetics altered.

    I suggest you read some books on biology for beginners and the effects of microwaves on biology (there is only over 60 years of research) - try to research opening your eyes, it usually helps. If you require any help I would be happy to educate you gratis (for free).

  • @les1chercheur Can you provide a link to something credible that states that a regular wifi router can cause any health effects whatsoever?

  • @a1mint - Can you provide "credible peer reviewed papers" with no conflicts of interest, with sound science, that show definitely no biological health effects from wi-fi? Off course you cannot. I know this, so do many others. Why is wi-fi being pulled from classrooms all over Europe? Barrie Trower cannot be discredited due to his scientific military background. Wi-fi has biological health effects, start researching.

    Read a few scientific books and journals, you will understand eventually.

  • @les1chercheur Can you provide credible peer reviewed papers that there are no adverse affects drinking water? Of course you can't.

    I have searched, and haven't been able find one shred of evidence that the weak radiation from wifi routers have any effect what so ever.

    Perhaps you can find something and post a link here.

    So far, it's all just hollow baseless unproven talk.

    The guy Barrie just wants attention.

  • @a1mint - Remember how the Fox smells his own hole? This can also be applied to your baseless unproven talk which is attention seeking to the extreme. First you try by insults (this generally means the person has nothing to bring to the debate) - Then you claim that you have searched and have found no evidence. Who are you trying to fool, yourself or others, or are you just bored to make such baseless comments with no credibility whatsoever? To research is not difficult, you will be amazed.

  • @les1chercheur Point to some credible evidence you snot!

  • @a1mint - Persons of ill education will always result to insults and innuendo as you have proven time and time again.

  • @les1chercheur EVIDENCE! Where is it? You're selling lies, you lying sack of shit!

  • @a1mint - prove that it is safe - reject!

  • @a1mint - provide peer reviewed scientific literature to prove your incredulous false assumption.

  • @les1chercheur It is YOU that is the one making claims, and therefore it is YOU that needs to provide scientific documentation how wifi radiation could be harmful. You have not done that. Instead, you're barfing up the usual scamster bullshit I've seen crooks like HHO sales people do. You're showing the same patterns as those quacks do. Insisting others accept information without proof.

  • @a1mint - Where do scamsters and crooks come into this? I sell nothing nor do I want to. I don't insist on anything, people can make up their own minds. What I cannot understand is you claim wifi is completely safe & when I give you my personal email address you send me not even 1 scientfic study showing that wifi is safe. How can I accept your rational without scientific studies? So far you have called me many names, eventually I called you some back which is stupid as I lowered my standard

  • @les1chercheur You're taking similar tactics. When you don't have any winning arguments, you resort to making your opponent seem ridiculous.

    The problem with your argument is that you have no case, because you don't have any articles showing credible evidence that there is a link between health problems and radiation from wifi routers.

    If there is something to look at, I'm interested.

    What annoyed me in the first place, is schools that are banning wifi routers which is silly.

  • @a1mint - look mate if you feel I made you look ridiculous my sincere appologies, however show me evidence that wifi is safe for children. If you could do that, this would be over long ago, then you could place another you-tuber on your hate/dislike channel. Being annoyed with schools banning wifi what do you want me to do? WIFI routers have not been pre market tested for safety, if you find different please show me. Why are several towns in France going fibre optic? Please explain.

  • @les1chercheur 3G/4G etc mobile devices are more and more common ground. Those devices have a much higher signal strength, because they need to cross many miles, as opposed to mere 100's of feet.

    So, how about evidence that cell phone use can be harmful. This might be easier to find.

  • @a1mint - i have given you my personal email address and you send me no peer reviewed papers on wifi, now you want evidence of cell phone use being harmful [which is proven] - where do I send the several studies which we have obtained? If you are paranoid make up a email address, the peer reviewed studies speak for themselves. You provide no studies other than weblinks of slight value. You refuse to receive any studies, it is impossible to post pdf's here on you-tube but if I could I would.

  • @les1chercheur I have provided a starting point with references with scientific claims how wifi is NOT found to be a health concern.

    You have provided absolutely no references to anything scientific.

    Dr Magda Havas is NOT a credible scientist at all.

  • @les1chercheur Oh, and it was you that was lacking evidence, not me.

  • @a1mint Considering the unnatural nature of intense levels of microwave radiation,and its capability to cook/change food in an oven (granted at much higher levels), would it not be more sensible to assume them dangerous until proven otherwise, rather than, like most of the world, assume them safe until proven harmful?

  • @tongueboy500

    No, because:

    - the energy used in wifi is very low, lower than cell phones even

    - studies have shown no link between health effects and wifi radiation

    - no one has presented any evidence

    - 3G, HSPA+, etc, are new wireless technologies that are far more powerful than wifi routers (data over cell networks).

  • @a1mint I agree with u, have you watched the other videos of barrie trower? there's one that cites a result indicating electromagnetic sensitivity. Now, knowing that there is always someone who is sensitive to something (e.g. natural sunlight) i wouldnt use this as a reason to think think EM radiation is harmful, BUT I also worry about the future of our children when the effects may not have manifested themselves fully enough for studies to register them - these being recent technologies...

  • @les1chercheur

    Wikipedia has an article on it: Wireless_electronic_devices_an­d_health

    The claims made are backed by links.

    And trying to dismiss Wikipedia is not going to work. Important pages are under constant scrutiny, and in essence is reviewed by more people that most other sources of information.

    And there are links to articles backing its claims.

    Your turn. Cat got your tongue?

  • @a1mint - Your you-tube channel shows that you rely on snopes dot com. I know you are not the sharpest tool in the shed, but your still a tool to rely on speculation of a site with no credible evidence let alone peer review, you know, like in scientific journals. bloody dorks, who needs them..

  • @les1chercheur No I do not rely on snopes. I used it merely for an article to prove a ridiculous claim some other delusional fuck made.

    I have a problem with delusions, lies, misinformation, distortions, dishonesty, crooks, scamsters, fraudsters. Basically anything that isn't real or honest. You fit that mold perfectly.

  • @a1mint - relax and breathe a little, you state you have many problems, relax max.

  • @a1mint - bioinitiative report pdf

  • @les1chercheur Evidence that the weak radiation from wifi routers have any effect on any life forms whatsoever: NONE.

    NEXT !

  • @a1mint - Let me know when you have researched microwave radiation, and the effects on biology. Until then stop wasting your time with your rantings, do something creative like acquire an education which is well grounded in the understanding of thermal and non-thermal effects of microwaves. I would rather debate with a person whom has education rather than no education. By the way which sector of Industry do you work, would it be (PR) - public relations? AKA propaganda. Try, educate yourself :)

  • @les1chercheur Let me know when you FINALLY find some credible evidence how the weak radiation of wifi can interact with human cells at all.

    Until then, step fear mongering and spreading lies. Do something creative and learn the difference between a microwave oven and a wifi router, like ooohhh, say, frequency, and such.

    It is YOU that is spreading PROPAGANDA and LIES. If not, PROVE IT. So far, anywhere, NOTHING, NADA.

    People are DELUSIONAL.

    Are you religious?

  • @a1mint - Are you religious?

  • @les1chercheur I spit in the face of people dumb enough to buy into any kind of delusion. Be it religion, magnet motors, HHO, astrology, chemtrails, homeopathy, wifi radiation, fuck it all.

  • @a1mint - You are full of hate and inappropriate language, which consumes you like a virulent cancer manifesting by the second. The description of your you-tube page shows that you are full of hate. With all your hate you actually attract negative energy to yourself. Heard the saying "stress is a killer?" - this is because the immune system breaks down under stress. Breathe in and breathe out, try to relax a little it will help get the oxygen to your brain that you require. All the best to you

  • @les1chercheur I get angry at fools like you that sell stories that do not exist. I can't delusional people. People that refuse to listen to reason and that refuse to register anything with any common sense makes me angry.

  • @a1mint - There is no need to get angry. Get an education as this will prove more beneficial to you. The Internet is full of people working for industry, described as trolls getting paid to spread misinformation day and night. Now I am not frothing at the mouth like you, to miss words in sentences, and no I am not calling you a troll. I will leave the uneducated profanities to you, as this is what you apparently excell in. I am not selling anything, so watch your mouth, you may trip in it.

  • @les1chercheur You're the one spreading misinformation. Fact is, there exists no evidence that the low energy from wifi routers is any health concern whatsoever.

    That is a fact.

    You're spreading lies. That makes you a liar.

  • @a1mint - cells in the body are affected by non-thermal RF exposure. You can never understand this because, the science, it is all too complicated for you. Remember what every one thought of the man who explained the earth is round? You are spreading lies, but I will not call you a lier, how about misinformed. That is a fact. Go and read the bioinitiative report, US naval research studies, etc. Actually go read a book, or purchase a dictionary or something that will increase your IQ

  • @les1chercheur Where the evidence how the radiation from wifi routers are of any health concern? Nothing? So your comparisons and claims hold no water.

    Right, that's what I thought. You're a lying sack of shit.

  • @a1mint - you lying oxygen thief with no intelect, get an education.

  • @a1mint - Please read your comment again and see if it makes sense. Thankyou

  • @a1mint - go take your prozac and lithium.

  • @a1mint It sounds like you think you have more knowledge and "common sense" than the gentleman in the video. In fact, people often get angry because they could not tolerate anything that they do not yet understand. Be humble then there might be a chance that you will see the truth.

  • @laoamao I don't believe in and don't like people that gain attention through baseless fear mongering. Studies so far show wifi is harmless, yet these tools pretend we're dealing with something dangerous.

    When I ask for evidence, absolutely nothing comes back.

    So, unless proven otherwise, *I* am right and the rest is WRONG.

  • @a1mint - Where are your studies showing wifi is harmless - if such studies exist please show - wifi has not been around as long as cell phones. RF is a contentious issue that few can understand, as many variables such as live organisms, cell lines, physics, and many other things come into play. It is not as cut and dry as one may think. All manufactured goods have safety standards, food, cars, etc. It is known cell phones have the possibility to cause deleterious health effects - wi-fi?

  • @laoamao - Very wise words indeed you have spoken.

  • @a1mint - you would never spit in anyones face because you are a coward who only hides behind the PC screen.

  • @a1mint - you could not spit your way out of a wet paper bag with a rip in it.

  • @les1chercheur Awww, I made the baby cry.... woohooo.

  • @a1mint - I know you are having a really hard time, it is all just too much for you, but don't despair many people actually do get it. The beef is in the fridge BTW.

  • @les1chercheur

    Zero evidence. You have no case. Period. Now piss off and spread your lies elsewhere, you lying sack of shit.

  • @a1mint - I suggest you seek help from a qualified Doctor that may be able to help you with your excessive verbal directed profanities. You display the clinical signs of a psychopath. Please seek professional help before you hurt yourself, a good start would be to visit a Psychiatrist. Anyone can be an Internet Warrior, but in person things are very different, be mindful of this fact. Remember, breathe in and breathe out.

    Discussion with you is now terminated, you have crossed the line.

  • @les1chercheur Here, cross this you delusional lying sack of shit !

  • @a1mint - By using profanities you only strengthen the fact that you need professional help of some kind. It is always difficult for a person to admit that they have psychological issues, as they live in a state of denial, and resort to profanities in support of their debate: which they know very little about. They do not seek knowledge but argue. Over 60 years of documentation on the effects of non-ionizing radiation, surely cannot be incorrect, as many were performed by US naval research.

  • @les1chercheur Bullshit. Fact remains: wifi routers do not produce harmful radiation. You have no proof that says otherwise, period.

  • @a1mint - WI-FI router operate on similar frequency wavelength that other ICRW operate, you cannot understand this, you are too busy proving again your psychological issues compounding your inability to communicate effectively: hence the continued profanities of an ill educated person who does not seek the truth and who is not capable of any comprehension. A car needs safety checks, food needs safety checks, medicine needs safety checks, RF needs no safety checks as they know it is not safe.

  • @les1chercheur The amount of energy from wifi routers is so low that it does not interact with living cells whatsoever. You can not understand this. You think that because you can cook with a microwave oven that uses 2.45 GHz, that a Wifi router that uses 2.4 GHz must also be able to cook.

    You can't cook with a 0.1 Watt microwave oven. Perhaps I need to draw a picture for you.

  • @a1mint - You know nothing of biological systems, you are just digging yourself a hole deeper and deeper. Microwave oven has nothing to do with a wi-fi router frequency and duration are different. You have not the slightest idea how non-thermal exposure effects living cells well before heating is observed. Please draw me a picture of your fantastic inapplicable theories.

  • @les1chercheur Bla bla bla, more words and psychobabble, and still no evidence whatsoever.

    So what do you understand about actual science, you freaking quack! Nothing, clearly. Ever heard of the scientific process?

  • @a1mint - Ever heard of the scientific peer review process? Clearly you are a nut job that has not quite evolved from the monkey. Either that or you escaped from detainment in a mental institution, which is where you belong. Big mouth on the net but in person you would fear your own shadow, you know that I am correct.

  • @les1chercheur You should talk. You haven't provided one shred of evidence on your wifi claims. You QUACK QUACK QUACK !

  • @a1mint - your brain is fried, hence your misrepresentation of the truth.

  • @a1mint - zero intelligence, proven again and again, till infinity.

  • @a1mint LOTS of evidence (peer-reviewed scientific publications) at RadiationEducation [dot] com. Also see the Bioinitiative Report - PhD scientists from over 11 different countries got together and reviewed over 2,000 peer-reviewed studies. Their conclusion: get WiFi out of schools, libraries, etc. and no cell phone usage for children.

  • @jinithompson RadiationEducation doesn't offer any scientific information about wifi whatsoever. It's only just opinions and a set of propaganda letters.

    Barrie Trower is a pseudo scientist, out to scare and make a name for himself.

    This whole thing is just like homeopathy. Getting people to believe in completely unfounded pseudo scientific nonsense. I'll add it my list of crap.

  • @a1mint - Barrie Trower is not a pseudo scientist. Obvious is your hysterical postings, you do not know the science regarding biology and microwaves. It is easy to be in a state of denial when persons are addicted to certain things which are deleterious to health, makes living with their addiction more acceptable.

    Your comment about Barrie Trower's video, you state -- "I'll add it to my list of crap" - confirms clearly your postings have no educational basis and are pure raving nonsence.

  • @a1mint - calling Barrie Trower a Quack is insulting and nothing but name calling (usually a tactic of a person of ill education of any subject). If you would thoroughly research the credentials of Barrie Trower you would understand that he is speaking the truth, the truth that you unfortunately fail to comprehend.

  • @les1chercheur EVIDENCE... WHERE THE FUCK IS IT?

  • @a1mint - Your intelligence is exceeded by your shoe size. There is no need for profanities. I know that you may well be in the low percentile of those who missed out on an average school education, but there is no need for profanities. You have proven once again that your rantings and ravings are pure delusional in nature. Breathe in and breathe out - try to control your rage. I wish you all the best, free from the emotional pain that you are placing upon yourself. Take care.

  • @les1chercheur You believe in something without there being evidence for it. You're delusional. Psychobabble is not going to help your flawed case one bit.

  • @a1mint - You have already proved on previous posts by your profanity, that you suffer from taurette syndrome (not having a go at persons with this syndrome). I live in reality of thousands of scientific documents, by Military, Cell Phone Industry, Hospitals, RF engineers, the list is from the 1950's - all you can do is thrash around like a fish on dry land. Get an education, you may even like it.

  • @les1chercheur Anyway... so where the evidence that wifi routers cause harmful radiation? Nothing ha? You lying sack of shit !

  • @a1mint = complete lunatic.

  • @a1mint You sure are a quack. Quack Quack Quack duck.

  • GOOGLE SANDAURA YOUTUBE. WE ARE LIVING WITH MICROWAVE RADIATION IN OUR COMMUNITY; HIGH LEVELS IN OUR HOME. WE DON'T HAVE CELL TOWERS IN OUR TOWN! IT IS RIDING ON THE ELECTRIC POWER GRID IN TO OUR HOMES. WE ARE HEARING NOISE 24/7 NON STOP. WE HAVE NOT SLEPT PROPERLY IN 4 YEARS. WE HAVE RECORDED THIS NOISE DURING MAJOR POWER OUTAGES.  WE HAVE NO MICROWAVE TRANSMITTERS IN OUR HOME. WE USE LAND LINES, NO WIFI,

    NO MICROWAVE OVENS. FORENSIC AUDIO ENGINEER HAS CONFIRMED THE PULSING TO BE 217Hz.

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