Stephen Wolfram on the Singularity

[stikmanaa]

I think he meant " the poets explain everything in rhyme"

[johntkooz]

The blockiness graphics are appropriate. He looks (and already sounds) more like a character from Waking Life now haha.

[pinkfloyddwc]

@johntkooz lol true :D

[Blacklemon67a]

@johntkooz lol

[poetdom]

Remain calm.

The poets explain everything in time.

Everything is important.changes,is connected. So pay attention!

[poetdom]

Remain calm.

The poets explain everything in time.

[matijakasij]

@poetdom What do poets explain, and please give some past examples of this everything, Thanks

[BenNCM]

What remains for humans to do when everything has been outsourced to automated systems? Answer - NOTHING. No wonder he wimped out of admitting it. The Singularity will mark the death of the human will and purpose.

[BenNCM]

Hats off to the team that must have laboured for hundreds of hours to make this lego video. Best thing I've seen since the White Stripes - Fell in love with a girl.

[particleion]

"Creativity becomes cheap because we will mine it from the computational universe"

Does this mean that we will become more creative with increased technology or less creative as creativity itself becomes a computational task? 

[davidorban]

@particleion My guess is the we will indeed become more creative. It will stop to be the exclusive reign of a restricted class of "artists"... Just as the printing press opened writing and reading to a larger group, and blogs to an even larger one... An additional element important in this is that of 3D Printing and nanofabrication to turn your ideas into physical objects.

[particleion]

@davidorban Ok I understand what you are saying, as with technologies such as Photoshop, creativity once held to elite artist become widely explorable by the general public. So technologies will aid in the overall ability for self expression. Although would happens to those with "natural" talent? I just don't see it leveling out where we all reach optimum creativity. Surely some may venture into even more complex forms of self expression...

[Consciousish]

@davidorban Definitely...

And there is no way we will become less creative. This program has the monumental task of grappling with a sentient brain that has evolved over millions of years. With so much in our genetic code, where we get creativity from extends in both directions, past and future...

[iamsammybe]

@particleion we might find that "creativity is the innovative application of technological tools" works well to define the concept of creativity. especially if we recognize technology as not just computers but also pencils and paper, paint, clay and potter's wheel, nail and hammer, &c... if you accept this definition, your question might resolve itself.

[spazdor]

@particleion @davidorban It's likely that as new creative processes get "discovered" by humans, we'll be more quickly able to chematize and automate those creative processes, and in a sense render obsolete the same creative process we're talking to.

For instance, I'm a DJ, and there's an interesting controversy going on in the DJ world: hardware vs. software. Many DJ's mix on turntables or CD decks, which require some manual 'babysitting' in order to stay in sync.

[spazdor]

@particleion @davidorban (...cont) Other DJs like me, mix using computer software, which automates some of the babysitting tasks. Now, people who learned to do it the old way are 'purists' about it, saying that software DJs lack the skills they have. But I say the software makes me more creative: by freeing me from a mundane, mechanical task, I'm better able to do overlays and live remixing which CD decks, no matter how skilled the operator could never achieve.

[spazdor]

@particleion @davidorban I expect that's how it's going to be for the remainder of our creative history: New creativity becomes understood, after it's understood it will become 'tool-ified', and new artists will come up with artful ways of using or combining the tools. And the old artists who used to claim as 'their' creativity that which the tools now do automatically, they'll deride the new ones as hacks. And then someone will take *that* combination of tools, and make a tool out of it.

[Singularity2010]

We are not human anymore. When insider nerds talk about "human creativity" they are referring to the drive of the language parasite in the human brain we may call, "machine mind."

[Blacklemon67]

@Singularity2010 yeah but we're still stuck in these god damn meat sacks

[Capicuaman]

Economics doesn't even scathe the surface of the topic on hand!

[draganagard]

"I think I understand science and I'm beginning to understand some of the technology" This coming from the guy who wrote the best mathematical software on the planet as a side-project to his research :))) "Begining to understand", LOL

[libertarianjury]

We should defeat our government slavers...

My vote for what we "should do". After that, the tasks become clearer. (We should pursue our own ideas of pleasure...)

[halpyman]

what the fuc is this guy talkign about

[ricmolina]

I hope he reviews the text of his presentations and musings and decides to purge the "sort of's" and "kind of's" that he repeatedly uses. It's distracting and adds nothing to the content.

[andytohgmailcom]

I think the most important thing for us to think about amidst this thrust towards this sort of trans-human (or rather, other-than-human) intelligence is how morality should and could be woven into our creations. As we race towards the future, this question remains the single most important one to answer. Great advances in technology offer opportunities for vast improvements of the human condition, but these technologies could also be used for selfish gains. How will the balance be struck?

[Xeletoph]

One option might possibly be the destruction of our capital based world-economy and replacement with a resource based world-economy. Use technology in order to make resources available in an unlimited fashion and make those resources available to all people. The system would be simple. Instead of bartering paper which symbolizes worth it becomes like this - if you provide goods and services, you receive goods and services. Everybody is capable of providing something, even if its just free hugs.

[Xeletoph]

This works because it reduces crime. People in financially destitute situations are more likely to give into crime. You could strip a billionare of his money and put him on the street with nothing and within days he'd be stealing just to feed himself. If everything needed/wanted is provided in quantity that is wanted/needed, then crime becomes virtually eliminated. Greed comes from scarcity, and current technologies can be used to deal away with scarcity. It's just a matter of implementation.

[ariesvids]

Your opinions aren't based on anything more than failed Marxist philosophy, which doesn't take into account individual and group genetic differences, and whose economics has been obsolete for decades.

It isn't differences in capital that are the source of all society's ills -- it is the differences in HUMAN capital. But Marxism is a religion, and for its adherents to admit this truth would mean to lose their faith.

[Xeletoph]

Umm, actually no. Most of our current capital based system is based strongly on what marx taught. The whole slave driving fiat based monetary system was thought up by him entirely. If you knew anything about economics you'd know that already. I'm against marxism because I'm against the cyclical monetary system - as its slavery and people can do better without it. I never said anything about religion here, so essentially what you've done is shoot at a ghost ; fire away, but you miss the target.

[nilbud]

@Xeletoph Wow how insane. You claim Marx invented Capitalism. I suppose you can't tell the difference between Nazis and Communists either.

[Xeletoph]

@nilbud Actually, no, that's not what I said. There's of course a monumental difference twixt Nazi's and commies, and I never supposed they were the same. However, a lot of the concepts that Marx developed are still in use by modern economical systems. Of course capitalism is a economic function, so those two concepts are indeed exclusive to one and other.

Now, would you like to replace your straw-man with a relevant argument to my position?

[victor1eremita]

@Xeletoph  ahahah this fucking moron thinks marx invented exploitation and wage slavery? put down the laptop and pick up a book.

[liquidminds]

@Xeletoph: even more important: everyone is willing to help. But if you have to find some asshole that you have to pretend to like, to do whatever he tells you, just to be able to feed your family, the will to help rapidly disapears.

When people get the chance to do something helpful, they will. Our system forces people to "help" where it isn't helpful distroying their motivation and killing innovation.

[isamelbou]

wolfram is saying what do we really want to do once we acquire TRUE AGI ,well i can answer him : let's start by solving the issues of climate change and hunger then satisfy human needs in other aspects.

[NagarajVasuki]

Wolfram is a genius of the first order, but it will probably take a new generation of computer scientists to fully comprehend, elaborate, and exploit his approach. Look to the AL community as a vanguard...

[DCWhatthe]

In the full version of this video, Steve mentions wanting to get back into Basic Research, to spend more time on intense, solitary creation and discovery. I hope that this guy is able to hire someone to take his place in WAlpha soon, so he can start using his intelliect the way he was meant to. Few things in life are more important, than following one's passion.

[t193r7]

Great video, wolfram have some unique interpretation on computation i've never heard before. human intelligences are connected by culture and history while other computation in nature does not. very insightful, thanks

[goodluckpeace44]

This man is not a man, HE IS A COUNTRY

Mathematician, Scientist, Writter, Buisnessman.

He can run a country by himself. He is a fucking country

[DancingInChains]

Very interesting segment. I think I'll be off no to watch the whole thing. Thanx for the upload!

[thoughtwaretv]

Your videos are awesome... : )