David Icke Symbolism and Religion Part 1 of 2

[HugeWeltanschauung]

aww you people all make me sad :-( don't give up on logic and believe in lizard people, pleeeaaase?

[cmottes]

Severe777, no, i'll leave the thinking you're sooooo much smarter than everyone else to you, you seem good at it. You don't know my beliefs about the bible, and you ought to examine the evidence. Most historians agree Jesus walked this earth and most also agree none of these myths did. The bible is not astrotheology, my friend. And you'd do well to realize Jesus is very real.

[Severe777]

because they were the ones supporting this lie.

[cmottes]

@beautifulvampires777, um no Jesus is the SON of God the two words "sun" and "son" aren't even similar in the language of the gospels only English. And no, lol, you should look up Egyptian mythology. Though Egyptians may have sensed the spiritual their astrotheology and myths were vastly contrasting.

[TheJoierose]

here is a link to another point of view that has yet to be unpacked... :) tripod.com

[m1kenas]

all religions are mind prisons, David Icke did not have to mention it, if you are well educated and can reason ,you can see it.

[cmottes]

David Icke gets it backwards ! Almost no serious historian doubts Jesus lived. The historicity is extremely well attested to, not to mention the obvious existence of the church Jesus founded. So, if Jesus really lived and died on the cross what does that tell you? Pretty smart for a carpenter's son ! He not only fulfilled the Jewish law, He fulfilled if you will the prophecy of the zodiac/cross pagan belief. He is the light of the world!

[m1kenas]

@cmottes not true, historians have not proved anything....nothing at all, keep believing in what you are told and you will be a victim such as the people in nazi germany, mere propaganda. religion was created in order to control people.

[cmottes]

@m1kenas you're welcome to respond to something I said but when you say "not true" its not to something I said. I simply made a true statement, the historicity is well attested to. Many historians and non-biblical sources, as well as numerous extant copies of the gospels, as well as St. Paul's letters, as well as markings in the catacombs, as well as the very early church itself all attest to the truth of the Bible. You are welcome to believe what you like. And indeed I do choose to believe.

[Severe777]

@cmottes lol you think you're soooo much smarter then everyone else here, but yet how can anyone smart believe the bible (A BOOK) is written by God? When evidence seems to say otherwise. I take it you don't believe in evolution neither? Well, the age of Pisces if almost over my friend... the Jesus myth is about to come to an end and the truth will be unveiled. Christians are in for a RUDE awakening...

[beautifulvampires777]

@cmottes Yes, he truely is the SUN...or as the egyptians called him, Ra.

[Batcat1313]

i would like to know the reasons why that is and he doesn't say anything about that...

[Pammigal]

Jesus was a real person. Even scholars have admitted that much. Also, ask occult members. They may not be fans, but they will at least admit he is very real and powerful.

[Mr911baby]

@Pammigal jesus's own brother told of how jesus was a man just like you and me but constantine, the elite from that era would not here of putting what jesus's own family said of him why is that??? Because if he had been the meer mortal who had great insight on how we should live our lives and contrary to what you said there is no factual evidence that jesus ever did any of the things bragged about in the bible. He fed multitudes from one loaf? yeah like niggaz dont make it off scraps now

[Severe777]

@Pammigal lol, I'm probably the biggest occult freak here and I can tell you Jesus IS NOT real, but just a MERE prototype of what humanity CAN BE if we had the potential or knew the TRUTH about the power within us. And truth be told, not one REAL historian wrote down the existence of a man walking on water or performing other miracles during the time of Jesus or shortly after. Besides two... and those two historians worked for the ROMAN EMPIRE, which is kind of weird if you ask me...

[blackhumanity103]

These are anceint symbols that have been used to relay real meanings...there is only so many ways to communicate concepts. What is similar are the concepts. Resurrection, death, life, sin and God are present in all cultures. But the differences far outweigh the similarity. The bible forbids the use of symbols so if the church is guilty of anything in this case, it is borrowing these lies. But that does not disqualify the presumption of Christ.

[jjtheslayer69]

he did this shit before the internet, so it sounds even more legit to me

[KSATica]

what's (11+11+11=?) K=11th alaphbet number of the whole ABC's chart and doesn't it have sumthing 2 do wit Masonic 33 degree *_* O by the way OXO=666 look it up in (numerology -IMPORTANT) and play some tic-tac-toe and you get the "beast" no matter what n this will wake u up type FOX and it will equal 666

[aboyborninjune]

Stop taking for granted that "God" (the religious version) exists, and you will see David Icke is right. Of course the story of Jesus comes from the story of Horus, and others, which in turn is symbols of the sun. Everything has a natural explanation.

Real divine entities that soon comes down to Earth to judge humanity? Or is everything based on scientific astronomical facts of the sun and the universe?

Since we're not living in a fairytale, it's obviously the latter.

[MsDaryna]

Also, according to the legend, Horus was conceived magically, because his father Osiris was killed by Seth. But it doesn't say that his mother, Isis, was virgin. So... nice try tho

[MsDaryna]

Horus' symbol is falcon. He is associated with the sky, and, consequently, with the sun AND the moon. So... I dunno,.. seems David exaggerates one facts and omit another in order to support his point.

Also, if you read the New Testament (Jesus' words ONLY), you'll see that the main message was NOT worship, but seeking of Kingdom of Heaven within. He also said to pple "you are the light of the world", "you are gods" etc. Worshipping was religions' invention.

[pmsan29]

David Icke is 100% right.

Christianity=astro-theological­, polytheistic, serpent/sun cult in disguise RE:Reptilian worship

[loveisthaway]

a great leader gonna soon come...but dont trust em

[jeykl6]

@Graphed sorry man i aware you right in all the facts you corrected this guy on, but the last bit,(a computer in brussels belgium) ? to enslave us, wtf has a computer in brussels got to do with anything? ive not heard of that before? if you could elaborate on that it would be great :)

[maruf92communist]

almost exactly what zeitgeist says

[drumlord420]

@maruf92communist the truth comes out in many outlets, not one is a church...

[Graphed]

The bible is THE MOST HISTORICAL BOOK IN EXISTENCE? That's EASY! But you wouldn't KNOW THAT, cuz you obviously accept ANYTHING that sounds nice to your feeble human ears. Within the 1st minute of the 1st video i can correct BLATANT LIES this guy states. Read a book, A Good One! It might just change Your Life!

[Graphed]

I always find it mildly entertaining when so called "educated" individuals try and purposely mislead people into making a connection with the Illuminati and Christianity. One of which has already put into effect a numerical code used by the whole world to buy and sell. In fact, isn't it required at this point in technology? Bar codes use the numerical pattern of 666 to differentiate one product (or person) from another. So WHY Would the Bible PREDICT AND WARN US over 2,000 years ago? WAKE UP!!!

[pmsan29]

@Graphed The Abrahamic religions are a manufactured construct of the Illuminati serpent cult's mystery school traditions, that are today's secret societies. The authors of the bible were in fact one of the biggest serpent cults of all, they were the Levites who were initiates of the Brotherhood of the snake/court of the royal dragon. Christianity (a religion based on the worship of serpent 'gods' RE:Anunnaki/Elohim/REPTILIANS) and the bible are 100% Illuminati created. Do your homework!

[Smith11s]

You dumb monkies....

I have done everything that your book saya is wrong.

taken whats not mine, and still you follow like blind sheep. My arms grow tired of taking the life out of your world. But still I carry on.

I have replaces love with hate and war. Don;t worrie hate comes in many forms. Just as your blood boils as I'm writting this... Once again I own you I AM RELIGION. Now go and curse kill and hate because others don't believe what you do... I AM RELIGION AND I OWN YOU MONKIES!

[jeykl6]

@Smith11s  fuuuuck , man your an asshole.

[Smith11s]

yes i said "stupid"

I have so much control over you that when the truth slaps you in the face you look the other way.

I have done more evil than your made up devil... I have killed more in the name of god than Hitler could even come close to... so keep on the worship so I can have your children also... you monkies make this too easy... yes human mokies are STUPID! Hahahahah I own you and your children... I am RELIGION fall to my feet and worship me as you kill everyone.... hahahah

[Smith11s]

new commandments of religion...

you shall murder if they don't agree with you.

you shall take there freedom from their minds.

you shall sleep with their wife and say it is gods will.

you shall lie so you can control them.

you shall have no other gods before me so you won't look deeper into my lie.

I am religion... I have killed many and inslaved all tha enters into my controled lies

I have caused more suffering than any other cause known to you monkies..

You are a stupid race.....

[skinnymelinx]

The priory of sion was a fake. The authors of holy blood holy grail based the hypothesis of their book on a fraudulent claim by one pierre plantard who claimed da vinci was grand master of the priory and that he himself was descended from the merovingian line of french kings. The story was revealed as an elaborate hoax and the authors had much egg to wipe from their faces. I'm suprised dave doesn't know this or perhaps this was recorded before that information came to light.

[snivellinglittleshit]

"I write messages on money!

Its my own form of social protest!

A letter printed on paper noone will destroy!

Passed anonomously across endless hands!

Providing information to people they would otherwise have no access to!

i hope that someone oneday will find my message when they really need it!

Just like i do!"

!!!YOU ARE NOT A SLAVE!!!

spread the truth via money people!.. money is their greatest weapon. use it against them!

[hailtotheking324]

fail..delve into the text of the new testament and then try to debunk it..who cares about roman holidays and roman calendars and roman symbols..jesus was not roman did not speak english did not have any knowledge of his december birthday..somebody debunk christianity through the text..maybe the roman symbolism is similar but the zodiac chart has nothing to do with the text of the scriptures..

[missionaryoffaith]

OK David Ike I have also research this religion called Christians and I found the information u found,but I also found information you seem to not tell or maybe u do not know about So I think you should d a bit research in different directions

[boardr8299]

@missionaryoffaith Ok, I'll bite... what did you find that he failed to tell us? More importantly, where did you find it?

[ashkrowe]

Can anyone even spell properly anymore? Thats how I know Fluoride in the drinking water makes people dumb!

[philliponk7]

john 8 the person that sees him sees the father ,the father was in him and he was in the father the words that he speaks he speaks not of him self but the father that dwellth in him.The father does the works.There are a lot of concepts of god around the world when jesus was asked about his these are his words.I believe that god cant be defined by concepts of man simply because he is good.

[philliponk7]

11 the pjohn14:8erson that sees him sees the father ,the father was in him and he was in the father the words that he speaks he speaks not of him self but the father that dwellth in him.The father does the works.There are a lot of concepts of god around the world when jesus was asked about his these are his words.I believe that god cant be defined by concepts of man simply because he is good.

[philliponk7]

11 the pjohn14:8erson that sees him sees the father ,the father was in him and he was in the father the words that he speaks he speaks not of him self but the father that dwellth in him.The father does the works.There are a lot of concepts of god around the world when jesus was asked about his these are his words.I believe that god cant be defined by concepts of man simply because he is good.GOD IS NOT THE GOD OF A RELIGION BUT THAT ALL RELIGIONS SHOULD SERVE GOD.

[Jcm9991]

Religion is merely a metaphorical representation of the sun and the various constellations and other astrological phenomena. God gave the world his only "sun" - which is true, there is only one sun. The Egyptians believed the sun was a gift from the unseen creator and they made figures such as Horus and Osiris to personify it at different times in the day. Religion is the greatest and the oldest story ever told. It's simply sun worship. That's all! Do your research and you'll see...

[Jcm9991]

Well I've done my research and I've read the Egyptian Texts and yes a lot of this is true. There is no dispute whether Horus was born on the 25th December because he was literally the sun anthropomorphized. He didn't exist as a person. He was a solar deity. Obviously the Egyptians were not aware of the concept of 'December' but they knew that once a year there was a time when the sun was said to have "died" and rose again. We now know this happens on the 21th December - the winter solstice.

[permaveg]

watch the Trinity broadcastig network on sky chann.580, it is shocking, one illuminati preacher yesterday , 25th july, strongly advised removing russia and iran from the face of the earth ! and he claims to be a christian. The channels obsession with zionism is obvious, it is an illuminati controlled channel as mr.icke said in the books. Other christian channels also spew out the propaganda about israel and how much WE should be supporting them and their " war" on terrorism.

[vodka2727]

@permaveg are you fucking serious? geez, removing countries off the face of the earth.... how would a religious person rationalize this? IN THE NAME OF GOD!!! what a frickin joke, taking human life in the name of god cannot be rationalized to me, i took my red pill this morning ;)

[permaveg]

@vodka2727 I am very serious. I think his name was John hegal or hagel, he has his ministry, dont they all ! He is john Mc cains link to god shall we say, a lot of those channels are pro Israel, he takes it one further. This man is an illuminati puppet dickhead.

[sirsuchjets]

God is real, the illuminati simply hijacked religion for their own gain. I don't go to church only for this reason. I feel his love in my heart, that's how i know he is real.

[Castor235]

@sirsuchjets Daaaaamn, thats heavy for a trollfag.

Didn't you know god hates trolls?

True storry bro.

[sirsuchjets]

@Castor235 I'm not your bro. Go play with your goldfish douchebag

[sirsuchjets]

@Castor235 It is really flattering to have a YouTube stalker but, no matter how much you beg I'll never ever let you suck my cock. Sorry.

[Castor235]

@sirsuchjets Ya sure, I couldve sworn you were gay from the way youve been coming on to me.

Oh well.

[sirsuchjets]

@Castor235 Still begging? Nice. Stop stalking me goldfish man.

[Castor235]

@sirsuchjets Fiiine, I'll leave you alone. My goldfish sure will miss the thought of having you as a mother figure to them though :(

[sirsuchjets]

@Castor235 for the last time, stop emailing me and asking if you can suck my dick.

[Castor235]

@sirsuchjets So ammusing how pissed off people get with a taste of their own medicine, maybe you shouldnt be such a dick if you dont want to deal with it happening to you.

Hope you enjoy being a douchebag, you'll deal with people pissed off at you for a long time.

Oh well, I'll stop, this is cutting into my having no life time.

[sirsuchjets]

@Castor235 Still begging? How sad. 

[spreadthegospel]

How are you supposed to understand if you you have personally heard God speak to you (as I have) and continue to, have been healed by God, and know many other people the same way. When it becomes so personal, it's hard to believe David. However, I do agree that the Catholic Church and the Illuminati are working together, but having a personal relationship with Jesus is totally different from the Catholic Church.

[stephensanchez5271]

One more thing. I love YAHWEH and all my neighbors, but i hate the catholic church. A bunch of harlots. There is something coming up and the whole worlds gonna freak. Anyone in the catholic church needs to hear this david icke guy because i believe the catholic church has all kinds of ties with the iluminati and this end is near. Anyone who loves Jesus come out of the catholic church and purge yourself of her ways.

[stephensanchez5271]

this guy and symbols sounds interesting i don't hear any evidence tho. i mean was this guy around way back then. he's impressive. He can't disprove the Bible tho. Noone can thats what im waiting for. Until then i have hope and i choose christianity as my prison religion. I am a slave to Jesus. Because he took me out of the slavery of sin and renewed my soul. I actually feal kinda bad for David Icke. He will spend this whole life self rationalizing things then die and face judgement.

[FeelGood30]

David Icke=Brilliant

[LebaneseMike]

He talks about symbols within Catholicism

[mashhor2fane]

u guys dont have the orgenal pible costanten burned them all and u dont follow any of the instructions of it am confused how u r going to haven wake up

[BabylonFading2012]

Catholicism is really a false premise of Christianity, hiding behind thier pagan, babylonian origins. Most Christian churches and denominations are a fraud, preaching false doctrine and easy salvation which brings in more money. Our only saviour is Jesus Christ, not church, the bible, rituals, symbols, images, statues, buildings, books and even knowledge or indoctrination. Most ppl are religious, but they have no relationship with Christ. Many ppl are going to miss the point of this life.

[danieljliversLXXXIX]

I'm getting tired of seeing this argument; that it's Catholicism that is paganised. Catholoicism is orthodox Christianity! Anything Christian came from it.

Jesus Christ is a fictional character. He never existed and never will.

[BabylonFading2012]

Only Jesus Christ can save our souls! Too many people beleive the many half-truths of David Icke, a freemason himslef! The Illuminati/Freemasons themselves put out thier own mainstream truthers to control the masses. Many things Icke says is true. The deception involved here is mixing these truths with the New Age/Luciferian doctrine and conditioning, which is basically we all have the potential to be God's and we can only save ourselves. Religion is man-made ritual, Jesus Christ is our saviour

[danieljliversLXXXIX]

No such a thing. Save our souls from what? A fictitional pit of fire?

Icke isn't a freemason.

The new age rubbish and Luciferianism are two seperate things.

The only thing that's going to save use is our selves!

[BabylonFading2012]

@danieljliversLXXXIX Further research might change your mind about David Icke and the luciferian doctrine that he indoctrinates his followers with. He's a fraud, many people are either ignorant to that fact or cannot come to that realisation. As for saving yourself, that is your own opinion. As for coming to Jesus Christ and to accepting him and trusting in him as your Lord and saviour, is a holy, supernatural event. Please learn to trust in God, not limited, corrupt physical humans beings.

[danieljliversLXXXIX]

Further esearch? I have researched this area for years now. Where's the prove that says he's a Luciferian? As far as I can see he's just some guru trying to get people to think outside the box. He's not right on everything.

Jesus Christ is fictional; he never existed and was the invention of Roman aristocrates to make people apathetic. We are the only one's that can save our selve. Not some imaginery being created for the sole purpose of controlling people.

[joshua1813]

@BabylonFading2012 hey just wanted to know what is ur proof that this man is a freemason. and how do u kno the bible is the the truth? is it because someone else told u it was. and how can u say jesus christ is saviour then say religion is a man made religion

[eddieshred92]

For everybody who thinks this is all lies: DO THE RESEARCH YOURSELF. I first saw this lecture and was skeptical, but then I did some searching. All the similarities are true, including dates, figures (Horus vs. Jesus), and symbols. It's way to much to be coincidence. That being said, to any Christian out there I respect your views and your religion. Let's not freak out about this.

[knutitup]

@eddieshred92 You are right. I saw this a while back and I rejected it. I thought it was pure BS. After educating myself I realize this is truth.

[joshua1813]

@eddieshred92 man i was starting to believe all of this but it is really hard to believe this stuff because all these things in life like the illuminati and the anti christ it would seem like the bible predicts most of these things that is why it so hard to believe the bible is fake.and plus also these things this guy is talking about like horus and all those other gods, he says their all the same story as the bible or jesus but the funny thing is i can't find any proof for that.

[eddieshred92]

Believe me if you research the story of horus, dionysus, mithra, and countless other deities you will find erie similarities. The date of birth and death is one huge commonality, too huge to ignore. If you look at their actions in life and death there are stunning, and I mean stunning similarities. As for the Bible, many religious books give days of judgement, mainly to evoke fear and gather followers. Above all, thank you for being respectful, it's hard to come by on youtube these days.

[joshua1813]

@eddieshred92 ya i found info on them but what about the dead sea scrolls some guy was talking to me about the dead sea scrolls and says how they predict the old testament or the bible in general is true, but am not to sure bout that jus wondering if u knew anything about that

[brae53]

@eddieshred92 Don't get this message in reverse.

The problem here is that (though Icke is very right on with his details, he doesn't realize that Yahweh gave (in the OT law) the commandment 'not to make for yourselves any graven image of anything in/on the Earth.

Why did He say this? Because man were always worshiping 'everything' - "They worship the creation instead of the Creator.

Sadly, Icke is grouping 'Christianity with the Faith of the OT Scriptures'. True, the NT has been messed with..

[brae53]

@eddieshred92 @eddieshred92 Don't get this message in reverse.

The problem here is that (though Icke is very right on with his details, he doesn't realize that Yahweh gave (in the OT law) the commandment 'not to make for yourselves any graven image of anything in/on the Earth.

Why did He say this? Because man were always worshiping 'everything' - "They worship the creation instead of the Creator.

Sadly, Icke is mixing Truth with the New Testiment.

[brae53]

This is why you should be careful of 'PRE-CONCIEVED' ideas.

Because Icke has a prejudice against the obviously altered New Testiment, he is confusing the fact that Satan has always utilized a warped version of the truth in the Word of Yahweh (Old Testament) just as he (Satan) said to Eve in the garden.. "You shall surely not Die, Die!" He is & has always been a liar. But , he uses a basic truth - and spins it into a lie. No one would fall for Satan's lies if he came out saying. I am a deciever.

[klnine]

@brae53 you have a serious disconnect with fact my boy !

[thehype04]

@eddieshred92 yeah i hate it when people especially religious nuts just dismiss every peice of information they hear without any research, its brainwashing

[Severe777]

@thehype04 They dismiss scientific evidence that makes their belief system look like a big FAT lie, but quick to jump on the scientific evidence that actually fits into their stupid fantasy world. It's pretty retarded if you ask me.

[LAfridy]

people..don't confuse what the Bible says with what the catholicism says!the Bible says to not make any image of God, so you can't say that christianity and illuminati are related because of some pictures made by some artists ( Leonardo da Vinci)..it doesn't make any sense..what if I draw a blond guy sorrounded by massonics symbols and tell you..that's Jesus! Open your eyes..but for real! dont confuse human's work with God's work!

[joshua1813]

@LAfridy well wut u say is kinda true, but regardless the bible is still a man made religion and my point is i don't believe in the bible or religion,but just in case u think i am atheist i am not I believe their is a god but i don't believe jesus is god. i also believe we can find god through individual journey and not through these earthly relgions

[brae53]

@LAfridy EXACTLY! Yahweh in the old testement gave us the law (613 laws to Moses). in the 10 commandments that HE wrote on a stone table for Moses, the law; Do not make for yourself any graven images of anything in/on the Earth. This is because man was already famous for worshiping 'Creation in steadof the Creator, Himself.' It is true that much of the New Testament has been altered (sadly) though the essence of Yahshua exists. That is why you have to go back to the OT for the truth of Yahweh.

[PPsabile]

@LAfridy god's work... What work?

[KarmicAnarchist]

Only Smarties have the answer.

[edidpro]

Some people here believe a virgin cannot have a baby yet we are our own saviour?

[teched246]

candiceevans1 it's time to put down the bible; there's nothing truly educational, wise, or knowledgable in it's contents. It had a long and good run, caused a lot of bloodshed, held our species back scientifically, and destroyed it's share of spirituallity but it's days are numbered and we who are awakening HAVE REALIZED THAT THE ONLY POSSIBLE SAVIOUR IS OURSELVES.

and Jesus would tell you the same thing.

[regnarBO]

eliyah com/yahushua html

[teched246]

" In this there is no teacher, no pupil, there's no leader, no guru, no master, no SAVIOUR... You yourself are the teacher, pupil, guru, master, leader, saviour- you are everything."- Jiddu Krishnamurti

and I would add, at the end of that ..."and all that has ever been."

[janicepjam]

aat last...someone voicing the truth, well done David!!

[JesusLovesYouNotSin]

The problem is there are a lot of false doctrines in Christianity today, for true Christianity follow this Rev:14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

i listened to another video from David where he says most of the Bad people (bloodlines and secret societies) are being controlled by Entities(Demons)

Now if this is true then the opposite has to be True, meaning there is a God

Jesus Is the Way.. ask Him he'll answer

[ChristPunk777]

David Icke is a freemason don't listen 2 him God warns us about faulse prophet

[truthtrekker]

You are deceived, a virgin can not have a baby.

[eddieshred92]

the only true christianity is original scripture and preachings from Jesus. Nowadays, knowing whats true and untrue is impossible, due to so many of the false doctrines you're talking about. We don't know whats true and what's not, thats the whole point. The only truth we have left is love and compassion.

[JesusLovesYouNotSin]

Dumitru Duduman

[truthtrekker]

Observe how the so-called Jews resurrected the devil, Dagon, as the one god.

The letters in the name Dagon are rearranged to read `one god`, Monotheism.

The `a` and `n` in Dagon spells, `an`. `An` means one. Then you have D-G-O remaining, which is rearranged as G-O-D.

The devil was then passed to you to worship as 'the One God`.

Be mindful then that all forms of worship are devil worship and are forbidden by Nature.

The result of worship is death.

Death is eternity in the Sun.

[DJTrell07]

well i know whos goin to hell if they still believe this. thing is... God's people exist waay b4 Christianity did soooo yeeeaaa.

[truthtrekker]

God was a hermaphrodite named A'belle who made slaves and claimed to be the creator of all things.

Nature put god where all things are created, the Sun.

The main pillar of any religion is that you one day have to die to go and be with your god.

Death is eternity in the Sun.

Do not be tricked by the religious.

[JesusLovesYouNotSin]

Where did you get this information from ???????

[truthtrekker]

the Bible

[JesusLovesYouNotSin]

Really... can you point out the verse or verses in the Bible which show "God was a hermaphrodite named A'belle who made slaves and claimed to be the creator of all things" ???????

[truthtrekker]

I did not quote any verses, the truth needs to be interpreted from the Bible.

You believe the Bible literally, which is why you are under the unfortunate delusion that a virgin can have a baby.

A virgin can not have a baby.

A'bel was the first human to die and is who the world worships as god.

If you can not read the Bible I suggest you read the Book of Life.

All forms of worship are devil worship and are forbidden by Nature.

The result of worship is death.

Death is eternity in the Sun.

[JesusLovesYouNotSin]

Interpretation is a subjective... If God ('Elohiym) can create Us , He can make a virgin have a baby.... Adam (Adam), Eve(Chavvah.Heua) and Cain(Qayin) Abel(Hebel)

God (Elohiym) is one who is worshiped not Abel(Hebel) which means breath.. if you use the original

[truthtrekker]

@JesusLovesYouNotSin God did not create anything she took the credit for Natures creation and wound up in the Sun.

If your energy ever leaves your body it will also be drawn back down into the Sun as is all excess energy in this Solar system.

I am not christian. I do not `save people`. It is up to you to use your brain and save yourself.

Choose your path wisely, Nature is beautiful but she is also strict.

[JesusLovesYouNotSin]

Nature, ??? we were created by nature ???? that reminds me of a bible verse ...

Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

What you are saying sound a lot like what the New Age teachers are saying .

[candiceevans1]

are u spiritual at all? because if you study the mind u will find that conscience doesnt come fr our physical brain as in the biological part...its separate and never dissipates this is proven in studies over and over we just cannot contain it yet, energy never ceases to exist so really u are very narrow minded if u believe there is no energy force greater then u

[truthtrekker]

you are correct the conciousness never dissapates as it is pure energy.

When the body dies, the conciousness leaves the body and returns the its origin, the source of all energy in this solar system, the Sun.

[candiceevans1]

your info is incorrect..the very first thing the bible says is "In the beginning was the word (or in hebrew "thought") and the word was GOD and the word was with GOD ...I THINK u are refering to a Gnostic Gospel the Apoc. of John and I do understand what you are saying but I believe u are interpreting 4 everyone and each is on their own SPIRITUAL journey its not yr place to interpret anothers truth get the beam out of yr own eye b4 u try to take the spec fr yr brothers eye

[candiceevans1]

remember this, the Bible is a book that can have multiple meanings... everytime u read it u can find new meanings everyone has his own truth to find. ,,,the bible is taken literally due to level of understanding, as they grow theyll understand underlying meanings of truth pertaining to their lives,,,the bible was given to uneducated people in a crude form but there are meanings that our primitive minds cant even fathom so dont critisize others for not being as evolved as u are

[teched246]

The bible's underlying messages are dehumanizing, degrading, and DARK.

This new bourgeois cult of "biblical but not religious" devotees is both the product of an awakening to the the primitive nature of religiion and an attempt to take on a more dignified and "individualistic" poise.

Not buyin it.

They're enlightened enough to know that religion cannot offer Man anything. Now they should take the final step and realize that the doctrines cannot either- ONLY YOU CAN. THE TRUTH LAY WITHIN

[candiceevans1]

religion and Christianity are two different things,,,religion exploits Jesus teaching to control. true christianity is ones personal journey to be connected to GOD through Jesus Christ. two very different things,,,real christians never pray to Mary, make statues or idols, worship a pope, pray to saints, eat wafers and think it saves u, give money 4 salvation, confess to priests, starve their self 4 religious reasons, dunk babies heads in water, believe masturbation is evil, and on and on

[truthtrekker]

Hi even if you believe Jesus existed he clearly `states` in Revelations 1:18 that he has `the keys of hell and of death`.

I strongly suggest everyone take a pass on those keys.

Death is eternity in the Sun.

I think we can agree that the greatest of all hells would be to be conscious inside of the Sun.

[sportydevil666]

My dear Watson what about the 13th constalation for that what is shown is true but your theroy is incorrect without the 13th constalation & its name is OHPICIPHUS cause this makes it the true AEON caledar of the Constalation the one your showing is the Jullian Calendar check your greek history go and google it name.

[thinknow1]

I 'm sorry david I mean that the people that do not wants to understand the truth in english porque tambien hablo en espanol gracias cabron

[thinknow1]

thanks david for trying to understand stupid people or may be they are one of them

[boomerskr3w]

its whatever you preceieve as truth..Like Icke says There is no bad knowledge its just what you do with it.

Happiness to all

Namaste

[Ramohog]

The mystery school religions were taken over by Rome. The Catholic church is behind this deception. They have perverted Christianity into a Satanic lie. The Bible exposes this deception, especially in revelation 17 and 18.

The Cross Icke is talking about is from the knigths of Malta and the knight templar. The militia of the Vatican.

The mystery schools are know the intelligence services of today, still running the world under luciferian control.

The Bible says get out of her my ppl.

[brideinblack]

what he says here reminds me of zeitgeist. And it's interesting, because in my country, the few people that really realize what's happening and that speak about it (like opposing the ideea of being chipped and such) are really religious people. My country is 80 something % orthodox christian, and people of the church here speak about the global conspiracy and it's effects on the people also. Now why would they do that, if religion is here to manipulate us also? That is my question...

[BeOriginalxD]

who ever edit this video, how can u say it aint true but it makes sense. u obviously havent done yur research. i advise u to do so, to understand. & wake up

[flavour54]

I used the word necessarily. In other words it probably is true.I have come to a point where I believe nothing and also dismiss nothing other than the wider accepted reality. You can research all you like, if you start on the wrong path, you will find lot's of lie's to support it. All I care about is for people to believe nothing the TV sais and that we learn to love one another. I am grateful for David, he played a large part of my waking up, nut I don't take what he sais as gospel.

[vodka2727]

@flavour54 well said flavour. i have alot of respect for david, i think he speaks alot of truths and to some extent i admire his courage and determination, but these things to me in no way make him some saint or gospel, least not in the manner that we percieve saints or gospels. reality is one persistent illusion i must admit.

[JDurden33]

@BeOriginalxD true enough, only RESEARCH depends upon current external sources, available books and online materials. nothing concrete there at all.

[trailsanddeer]

if you think this is bullshit, you obviously haven't done enough research to fully understand it.

[pointlessaccount100]

Everything is a Fucking Lie!!!!

(Or at least a metaphor)

[DiggingMyOwnGrave2]

Oh, I know. I was so pissed off when I found that out.

[Buffalowdown]

Jesus Christ made this video just to test our faith. j/k Thanks for posting David Icke.

[Mistic718x]

Give me a brake

[Buffalowdown]

j/k means "just kidding"

[Buffalowdown]

And "brake" is a car brake.

[Starbuc1]

WOW, finally something I actually agree with this idiot on. Organized religion has been the biggest scam in history, The bible is a story written by a man about another, a bio nothing more. It has been translated many times, always losing something in the process. In addition more was left out than included. Don't you wonder just what was left out and how it could change the entire direction of the story.

[humbert80]

You actually believe this idiot? Makes me wonder who the real idiot is?

[mikejaks82]

Haha great. Im going to take a wild guess here but have you actually listened or researched anything he talks about?

[yannlgll]

I think it is a very good video, truth telling, very open minded, religion is the ultimate mindwashing scam

[scarry07]

I am agree with this man...

[danmarino1970]

Religion is man made used to instill fear on the majority of the world so that the 2% who control them may do so without question... Worldwide religions are used to divide people throughout the earth for one reason only "divide and conquer".. so who conquers us now? all you have to do is watch television.. My religion... love unconditionally, respect nature, educate my family, and try to live in peace.. that is true religion... infinite consciousness

[frankfihn]

Great comment Danny boy!

[Freethinker24]

he has good points but if you study him he reverses everything from the christian bible he is a servent of the devil

[enigma067]

Freethinker24, you must be a mind-controlled Christian.

[seonf]

The "devil" is just a myth.

[reksub10]

the devil is a metaphor for the evil that men do and god is a metaphor for good religion can work but the 3 main ones are so distorted that the people that practise it think its somthing supernatural therefore the powers that be realised how malable people can be and they mould thoughts through there fear of death we should wmbrace the fact that we will die one day not be scared if we are judged

[ChilenoPiscean22]

The devil and god is the representation of Pisces, the piscean age which we live in now and the same age thousands of years ago when jesus supposedely lived.

Pisces is the sign of duality, which is the metaphor your talking about, the fight within us for doing good or doing bad (easy road)

[seonf]

I like that view. I don't think the "devil" is a literal figure at all.

[reksub10]

yep there cant be only one god every thing has an equal and an oppisite so the devil is god and the god is the devil we should be worshiping our fellow man instead of putting feelings into metaphors that people staryt to belive are real thats very sad to me humans are worht much more than what we get out of our lifes

[seonf]

I always liked what Christianity said about loving your fellow man and not judging others. But I just can't take things on blind faith. Yeah that is sad. Today we realise the Pagan God's were myths but most of us still think Jesus was a real historical character.

[BustMyCh0ps]

Icke has many good points but he always takes it to far(i.e reptilians humanoids rule the world). The Zodiac calendar is the key to deciphering religions but it wasn't invented by the "Illuminati".

[gegrost]

omg, same feeling right here!!! Love his research, but sometimes he leaps to conclusions that are not as factual as he likes to claim...

[hjchamp04]

there is evidence of the reptilian humanoids(ancient civilizations and tribes that speak of them) plus other ppl have also brung up the reptile claim

[corndogers564]

Youtube Alex Collier, and Peggy Kane. They even bring up the reptilians in their interviews.

[sataiutopwns]

yeah the Annunaki(i.e our creators or our Gods)

[JelloSheriff]

This man is worth listening to (imho).