Korean=Imperialist Westerner. Only Native Americans and Middle East should be freinds. After all Middle Easterners are darker skinned Europeans and Native Americans are darker skinned Asians but get hated on by the richer lighter skinned northen cousins from Westen Europe/East Asia.
@SPS148669@SPS148669 Not making a whole lot of sense SPS. Don't think Native Americans on average have darker skin than Koreans ... not that anyone cares.
The pride of Women's hejab is that the woman is not subject to exploitation by the man. In the West, we see that the woman is constantly judged by her looks. in rap videos, but also in public life where she is constantly told to look attractive towards others. Busying themselves with Botox and constantly in fear that their husband might leave or cheat with them (in some European countries countries 70% in the working space there is sexual harassment) This has largely to do with lack of the Hijab
In addition, we need to assess the "freedom of choice" in the West. Since freedom is not absolute. It is not biological. Your freedom might be imprisonment for other cultures. Freedom is decided by your government. U.S. government decided that letting women smoke (Torches of freedom for women: lucky strike campaign) meant that women are more free. Completely irrational ofcourse but it was accepted. Allowing half of the market to be freed of social taboo's and made open for cigarette addiction.
If we consider these facts, and the social corruption that emerges when human (without guidance irrationalbeing) is left alone to decide what he wants. This is very dangerous indeed. Freud himself became very depressed after having understood this. While Bernays used it to brainwash an entire generation So for us. We are proud of women with hejab, because they attempt to keep the society healthy. from lustful looks and thus harassment and trouble, also for families. Iran women=70% Uni students.
Hmmm. I'm not sure that most women in the West are sorry they were given the same right to smoke as men. Maybe a ban on advertising or public indoor smoking for both sexes would have been better.
You are missing the whole point. Women were not given any "rights", it has nothing to do with equality. This only exists in the mind and can be constructed. The point is that first, men were addicted to smoking. And because Lucky strike missed half of their market. They exploited an inner urge of humans to make women addicted too. They called the campaign "Torches of freedom" because they knew how naive women are to fall for it. This is called manipulation. Of course people shouldn't mind!
The point is not serious. This idea that individual freedom is all bourgeois false consciousness (kaffir false consciousness now I suppose), the delusion of sheep manipulated by the all-powerful ruling class, blah, blah, is old news. Go to Iran or Hezbollah-land and walk around in the summer sun with Hijab required by law. See if you like being ordered to "cover!" when you are swimming in sweat. See how much it has to do with some ad campaign from decades ago.
How could you say it is old news when you just as I know very well the way in which Americans are daily manipulated. I would take this matter much more seriously than call it "Old news". The entire credit crisis evolves around how the elites brainwashed people into loans because oftheir consumeristgreed.I also walk around with long pants and a blouse because I cannot show my arms and legs. I do it with pride too because the heat in the next life is much worse in my view, and many feel that way.
Good for you. Good for the many that feel that way. Just don't force everyone else and then tell yourself it doesn't matter they are all manipulated anyway.
Forcing is a very relative word peacenik. So is a word like freedom. You are forced to keep your underwear on. We are forced to keep our Hejab's on. Its a very subjective view you have that one is somehow better than the other. Iranian women have worn the Hejab before Islam. Chador is not an Arabic word, it is a traditional Iranian dress from Sassanian times. So it is part of our national identity and mandatory by Islam. Also for the man. You should respect them rather than look down on them.
No comparison. In other countries there are no squads of cops send out every spring to keep people wearing underwear. As I keep saying, Islam is not the issue, national identity is not the issue. Not respect, not tradition, etc. It's pasdaran, lashes, fines and prison. That's the issue.
Understood that hijab is important to most Muslim women. ... but why does it have to be enforced by police? There is much to be criticized in the West, but there is also a big difference between being "constantly told to look attractive," and being threatened with fines, lashing and imprisonment, for bad hijab.
hmmm. We hear this all the time, but I can't say I'm convinced. Triple talak is easy divorce. Are Muslim women never/seldom worried about being divorced? Personally speaking, it is easy see a woman's beauty with most hejab. Niqab may hide beauty, but not Iranian regulation hejab. And is there no sexual harassment in Dar al-Islam? What about the Philipino and Sri Lankan housemaids and nannies?
what exactly is the connection between pride and compulsory hijab? Would letting women decide for themselves whether to wear hijab make Iranians less proud?
the hijab is not compulsory only for women u fool, it is compulsory for men too..
and about being proud, i was talking about the recent developments in Iran like the Omid satellite and their civillian nuclear program to generate electricity..
Yes, but the video is about hijab and it seems to making you a bit angry, doesn't it? No one's complaining about the Omid satellite or generation of electricity.
So what exactly is the connection between pride and compulsory hijab? How would letting women (or men) decide for themselves whether to wear hijab make Iranians less proud?
PS, let me be clear to anyone reading this that NO one in the video nor the person who made it thinks compulsory hijab (or human rights violations, or uranium enrichment, or anything else) would be an excuse for American "regime change" in Iran.
The man who talks to the korean girl just before the end, sounds like he is aroused or something..maybe the hijab was preventing him to go ahead and grope her!
The man who talks to the korean girl just before the end (me) was not hitting on her and did not hit on her, although she was cute and sweet and helped me with the video and we stayed at the same hotel during the tour (i.e. there was no segregation of the sexes to prevent fornication.)
My impression of hijab in the Muslim countries I've been to (Iran, Turkey, Egypt, Morocco, Jordan) is that it takes more than modern hijab to prevent males from realizing a beautiful woman is beautiful - a Taliban-style burkah will of course, but not normal loose coat covering everything but hands and face, as mandated by law in Iran.
Anything that is forced on a human is not will of God. This regime and those who support it have forced their backward ideology on a nation in the name of a religion. As a result of their behavior many Moslems have turned away from Iranian style Islam and all this religion has to offer. Iranian Islamic regime and its leaders behavior has repelled many from this religion and created much hate among civilized societies for a loving religion.
Korean=Imperialist Westerner. Only Native Americans and Middle East should be freinds. After all Middle Easterners are darker skinned Europeans and Native Americans are darker skinned Asians but get hated on by the richer lighter skinned northen cousins from Westen Europe/East Asia.
SPS148669 1 year ago
@SPS148669 @SPS148669 Not making a whole lot of sense SPS. Don't think Native Americans on average have darker skin than Koreans ... not that anyone cares.
peacenik5104 1 year ago
Now a more important issue is the `change for equality` campaign.
peacenik5104 2 years ago
hey girls if ur muslim. u need to wear hijab cuz ur muslim muslims need to wear hijab....
bismillah555 2 years ago
The pride of Women's hejab is that the woman is not subject to exploitation by the man. In the West, we see that the woman is constantly judged by her looks. in rap videos, but also in public life where she is constantly told to look attractive towards others. Busying themselves with Botox and constantly in fear that their husband might leave or cheat with them (in some European countries countries 70% in the working space there is sexual harassment) This has largely to do with lack of the Hijab
zelzalosolh 2 years ago
In addition, we need to assess the "freedom of choice" in the West. Since freedom is not absolute. It is not biological. Your freedom might be imprisonment for other cultures. Freedom is decided by your government. U.S. government decided that letting women smoke (Torches of freedom for women: lucky strike campaign) meant that women are more free. Completely irrational ofcourse but it was accepted. Allowing half of the market to be freed of social taboo's and made open for cigarette addiction.
zelzalosolh 2 years ago
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If we consider these facts, and the social corruption that emerges when human (without guidance irrationalbeing) is left alone to decide what he wants. This is very dangerous indeed. Freud himself became very depressed after having understood this. While Bernays used it to brainwash an entire generation So for us. We are proud of women with hejab, because they attempt to keep the society healthy. from lustful looks and thus harassment and trouble, also for families. Iran women=70% Uni students.
zelzalosolh 2 years ago
Hmmm. I'm not sure that most women in the West are sorry they were given the same right to smoke as men. Maybe a ban on advertising or public indoor smoking for both sexes would have been better.
peacenik5104 2 years ago
You are missing the whole point. Women were not given any "rights", it has nothing to do with equality. This only exists in the mind and can be constructed. The point is that first, men were addicted to smoking. And because Lucky strike missed half of their market. They exploited an inner urge of humans to make women addicted too. They called the campaign "Torches of freedom" because they knew how naive women are to fall for it. This is called manipulation. Of course people shouldn't mind!
zelzalosolh 2 years ago
The point is not serious. This idea that individual freedom is all bourgeois false consciousness (kaffir false consciousness now I suppose), the delusion of sheep manipulated by the all-powerful ruling class, blah, blah, is old news. Go to Iran or Hezbollah-land and walk around in the summer sun with Hijab required by law. See if you like being ordered to "cover!" when you are swimming in sweat. See how much it has to do with some ad campaign from decades ago.
peacenik5104 2 years ago
How could you say it is old news when you just as I know very well the way in which Americans are daily manipulated. I would take this matter much more seriously than call it "Old news". The entire credit crisis evolves around how the elites brainwashed people into loans because oftheir consumeristgreed.I also walk around with long pants and a blouse because I cannot show my arms and legs. I do it with pride too because the heat in the next life is much worse in my view, and many feel that way.
zelzalosolh 2 years ago
Good for you. Good for the many that feel that way. Just don't force everyone else and then tell yourself it doesn't matter they are all manipulated anyway.
peacenik5104 2 years ago
Forcing is a very relative word peacenik. So is a word like freedom. You are forced to keep your underwear on. We are forced to keep our Hejab's on. Its a very subjective view you have that one is somehow better than the other. Iranian women have worn the Hejab before Islam. Chador is not an Arabic word, it is a traditional Iranian dress from Sassanian times. So it is part of our national identity and mandatory by Islam. Also for the man. You should respect them rather than look down on them.
zelzalosolh 2 years ago
No comparison. In other countries there are no squads of cops send out every spring to keep people wearing underwear. As I keep saying, Islam is not the issue, national identity is not the issue. Not respect, not tradition, etc. It's pasdaran, lashes, fines and prison. That's the issue.
peacenik5104 2 years ago
Understood that hijab is important to most Muslim women. ... but why does it have to be enforced by police? There is much to be criticized in the West, but there is also a big difference between being "constantly told to look attractive," and being threatened with fines, lashing and imprisonment, for bad hijab.
peacenik5104 2 years ago
hmmm. We hear this all the time, but I can't say I'm convinced. Triple talak is easy divorce. Are Muslim women never/seldom worried about being divorced? Personally speaking, it is easy see a woman's beauty with most hejab. Niqab may hide beauty, but not Iranian regulation hejab. And is there no sexual harassment in Dar al-Islam? What about the Philipino and Sri Lankan housemaids and nannies?
peacenik5104 2 years ago
Ahmadinejad has made the Iranians a proud nation..and we all know about the Omid satellite..
Iran would be the torch bearers in the downfall of America..
nilo723 3 years ago
what exactly is the connection between pride and compulsory hijab? Would letting women decide for themselves whether to wear hijab make Iranians less proud?
peacenik5104 3 years ago
the hijab is not compulsory only for women u fool, it is compulsory for men too..
and about being proud, i was talking about the recent developments in Iran like the Omid satellite and their civillian nuclear program to generate electricity..
nilo723 3 years ago
Yes, but the video is about hijab and it seems to making you a bit angry, doesn't it? No one's complaining about the Omid satellite or generation of electricity.
So what exactly is the connection between pride and compulsory hijab? How would letting women (or men) decide for themselves whether to wear hijab make Iranians less proud?
peacenik5104 3 years ago
PS, let me be clear to anyone reading this that NO one in the video nor the person who made it thinks compulsory hijab (or human rights violations, or uranium enrichment, or anything else) would be an excuse for American "regime change" in Iran.
peacenik5104 3 years ago
The man who talks to the korean girl just before the end, sounds like he is aroused or something..maybe the hijab was preventing him to go ahead and grope her!
nilo723 3 years ago
The man who talks to the korean girl just before the end (me) was not hitting on her and did not hit on her, although she was cute and sweet and helped me with the video and we stayed at the same hotel during the tour (i.e. there was no segregation of the sexes to prevent fornication.)
peacenik5104 3 years ago
My impression of hijab in the Muslim countries I've been to (Iran, Turkey, Egypt, Morocco, Jordan) is that it takes more than modern hijab to prevent males from realizing a beautiful woman is beautiful - a Taliban-style burkah will of course, but not normal loose coat covering everything but hands and face, as mandated by law in Iran.
peacenik5104 3 years ago
god is nutral he does not care wheater you live or die, thats what i would think
arbighookasian 3 years ago
Anything that is forced on a human is not will of God. This regime and those who support it have forced their backward ideology on a nation in the name of a religion. As a result of their behavior many Moslems have turned away from Iranian style Islam and all this religion has to offer. Iranian Islamic regime and its leaders behavior has repelled many from this religion and created much hate among civilized societies for a loving religion.
dn32844 3 years ago