Widely used in the Italian Armies in North Africa in WW2. Recoil isn't really an issue when the user is in a two-man desert foxhole, without any real artillery support, with several British Light A10-Mk2's, or Crusader cruiser tanks bearing down on you. To say it's a weapon of last resort , or ambush only, would be an understatement.
@MeinKampfychannel please re-read the description - this rifle is not mine. It belonged to some friends who were gracious enough to let me have a shot.
i live in solothurn (small city in switzerland) and the weapon is a legend the factory was a big secret its still forbidden to talk about the time and the place where these weapons and other things were produced
That's about what it looks like, yeah. Truth is, I cut the video because the camera work got really crappy immediately after that. My collarbone was sore, but not broken. Dave offered to let me shoot another round WITHOUT the muzzle brake, but I'm not stupid ...
We set up an old license plate in the dirt bowl that you can see in my other video, "36 bottles of tannerite." I don't know who managed to hit it, but there was a very large hole in the plate at the end of the day. Most of us there that day shot the rifle just to be able to say we shot it, not for accuracy.
Actually, Hitler did increase gun ownership...among Brownshirts and Nazis. Hitler also used gun registration lists of countries he invaded to identify and go after any potential civilian resistance.
Don't like the regular Joe totin' a 9mm? Tough. In the US, it's his right to do so. Google DC vs Heller. You also might not like the Jews down the street or the Muslims in their Mosque either. Doesn't matter. We run this country according to the Constitution, NOT your likes and dislikes.
@1mile50 It was not only Hitler.Right after ww1 the illegal"Black Reichswehr"murdered many for owning guns.They made up black lists,took the persons from home and "shot them while attempting to flee". This was legal as long as the unarmed victim was shot in the back. In one case someone refused to turn around and was shot from the front,causing some trouble.See the book "Vier Jahre politischer Mord". I uploaded it together with some english books on Wuala, link is in the descriptions of my films
I bet when the Elite, Globalists, New World Order, Illuminati, whatever you want to call them, clamps down on the public and starts confiscating all of our guns (probably very soon), these guns will be the first thing they come after.
God forbid the citizens have weapons that could defeat tyranny. 150 million armed americans is mightier than any army on earth.
Tyrants agree: Gun Control WORKS! Just ask Stalin, Mao, Hitler and good ol' Kim Jung Il.
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You made your point in such a way that I can hardly argue and not sound like a baby-eating gun-hating communist, but here goes:
Gun Control ALSO works in places like Australia, the UK and other places with the effect of less gun violence and accidental shootings.
The people trying to push gun control aren't trying to take away your freedom, they're trying to make things safer by having fewer instruments of death floating around.
I'm not saying I agree with that, but I'm sure that's how it is.
MASS MURDERS AGREE: Gun Control WORKS! - Just ask Hitler, Stalin and Mao. Mao ALONE accounts for 50 to 60 MILLION DEAD.
Yeah, you know why you said you can hardly argue against my comment without sounding like a baby-eating gun-hating communist? Its because I'm right.
Let them take ALL your freedom and weapons. Cowards like you shit yourself if you see an average Joe with a gun, but you see a COP in his COSTUME (uniform) with a gun and you feel safe. What a disarmed brainwashed fool you are.
You know why people don't like the looks of the average Joe toting a gun around? Because you have no idea what he's going to do with it. When it's as easy to get a gun as it is, then there's no saying if Mr. 9mm is in the hands of someone who actually plans to use it for home defense or who may well shoot the next passerby and so forth.
If the Ruskies invade and it's up to him to form a civvy milia, then great, but otherwise it's one more potential killer.
@aaronz101 guns have been baned in the uk since the 90's but it hasnt stopped gun crime at all. reactivated, converted and weapons smugeled in from eastern europe are easy 2 obtain we still have gun crime, just look at london. granted it may not be on the scale that the us suffers but gun control only stops law abiding people owning guns as criminals dont give a toss about gun restrictions, they break the law by nature so restrictions aint going 2 stop them! gun control punishes the law abiding
Fair enough, but the thing is, without gun control there are just more guns floating around. Criminals will always have firearms, but now they can be more easily attained by simply robbing a house. Not to mention accidental deaths and caused by civilians whom misuse their weapons.
But I understand that people should have the right to defend themselves too, so it is a dilemma. Personally I'm not living in a country where it's a big issue, and I'm not taking sides. That's just how I see it.
your right on that,countries like the u.s do have more of a problem due 2 the ease which guns are obtained and without better regulation i do belive their situation can possibly get worse. i just feel the ban on guns like we have in the uk is wrong when it punishes the law abiding when the criminals will get them if required regardless. i really do belive people should b able 2 defend there home , family or person when needed. so yeh, i agree with you that there needs 2 b gun control to a degree
yes im aware of that those are the ones that shouldnt be alowed guns cuse only a idiot would leave a gun laying around for some random rober to grab sure not many people are expecting to get robed but stuff happens thats y gun lockers were made to keep them safe and away from people that shouldnt touch them
Maybe you home owners do, but I rent and have only a 10'x10' space to put stuff in-no room for a bulky gun cabinet. I just dont let too many people know what I have, and I keep them out of plain sight when im gone. There are no children around so this works, but if there were I would have those gun locks on the triggers.
major flaws in thinking like you and so many others do. 1) it is a right, to go againt it is illegal, PERIOD. 2) you compare the number of guns proportionally to the number of crimes-- wrong. 3) any real research will show you "average joe" with a gun will protect someone MANY times more than a criminal will use a weapon of any kind to commit a crime. 4)outlawing firearms criminalizes those who know their life(or rape prevention) is more important than how a coward in washington feels.
As I've said numerous times, I don't hold these views myself, I'm just trying to demonstrate the reasons -for- gun control.
For your third point, how can somebody possibly protect their family with a firearm on more occasions than a criminal uses one for whatever illegal activity? What exactly would they then be protecting their families from? Angry animals? Given that from a logical standpoint they would have to then be protecting their families from something other than an armed criminal...
@aaronz101 obviously you are being rediculous now. Why, if you do not support these views, would you make a case against a right? Obviously I was referring to the total number of people who defend themselves vs the number of criminals who attack people. Most crimes in this country don't even involve a gun. I am not angry, but you seem to be promoting what you say you don't agree with.
@crockagater This is because earlier on (here, I think) someone was promoting his opinions on gun-control and got torched for it, with people saying he wanted them controlled out of cowardice. I just stated the reasons why he might think like that. Then people replied to me and I replied back and so forth.
Personally I'm FOR responsible people being able to carry firearms. Stats have shown that crime goes down when people are afraid to start trouble with someone who may be packing heat.
@aaronz101 (Continued) But that doesn't mean that there aren't any valid reasons FOR gun control. It's up to you to weigh up the pros and cons yourself but people should be aware of, and acknowledge both sides of the coin.
@aaronz101 (Continued) But that doesn't mean that there aren't any valid reasons FOR gun control. It's up to you to weigh up the pros and cons yourself but people should be aware of, and acknowledge both sides of the coin.
@aaronz101 (Continued) But that doesn't mean that there aren't any valid reasons FOR gun control. It's up to you to weigh up the pros and cons yourself but people should be aware of, and acknowledge both sides of the coin.
@aaronz101 (Continued) But that doesn't mean that there aren't any valid reasons FOR gun control. It's up to you to weigh up the pros and cons yourself but people should be aware of, and acknowledge both sides of the coin.
@aaronz101 Why isn't THIS comment getting thumbs up?
While deterrence isn't entirely the answer to solving conflict, a little never hurts. Most sane, law-abiding people should be allowed to carry firearms, and should be taught proper respect for the power that such weapons have so they don't do anything stupid with them.
Observation: You are afraid to lose your gun. You think there is a global conspiracy. You talk about God.You think the world want to become communist and be ruled by a tyrant, except your country.
Hypothesis:
You are:
an American
a christian fundie
heavily Influenced by anxiety or fear, to the point of irrationality and delusion as the results of previous government's cult of fear and your religion.
It's funny how much we can learn about other just by reading a few word.
@mrjustin5 how about an army of 1 billion armed Chinese? I'm American, just wondering what you would think about that? If they had to, I'm sure it'd get to that
@mrjustin5 US citizen here. I am a gun owner and I support my right to defend myself against criminals and murderers. However, regarding the 2nd amendment as a "reset button" on governmental tyrrany, need I remind you that the US army has remote-control flying killer space robots with laser guided missiles? You really think a 20mm rifle is going to do shit against them if push comes to shove?
@Guesswork01 Yeah, ok, Killer Space Robots, gotchya. Looks like someones watching too much Anime. Listen, even with a KNIFE you can get a hold of some guns. And with some guns to arm some people, you can take over a building, facility, then take over the tanks or planes or whatever. WE are the military. WE are the arm. WE are the government. Besides, there are plenty of people in the military who dont want to kill their family and who are on our side. You do not have a valid point. Dont be weak
@Guesswork01 Ask the Vietnamese if people with antique small caliber rifles can start a revolution to remove a space age world class military force from their country. Your comment shows that you don't understand the nature of guerrilla warfare. I'm not praising the commy's, but they were DETERMINED to eject the strongest military on earth from their country and the did it, and it started with a bunch of turn of the century relic rifles.
@partsproduction The Vietcong threw a foreign army out of their country after 15 years because the US people got sick of funding a war half a world away. So, yeah, your analogy kind of breaks down when you're talking about a government repressing its OWN people on its OWN territory. Usually, domestic revolts fail, and if they don't, it's because they use the media and support of foreign powers to pressure their government into submission. And it's spelled "commies," dumbass.
@Guesswork01 No two revolutions are the same, but almost all of them start small with a few under armed patriots who are willing to die for their cause. If you had an open mind you could see that. Our own revolution is a good example, and until almost the last few weeks of the war few people thought we could overthrow Mighty England. What kind of persons calls a total stranger a name like that? Seems to be a youtube thing, people are rude and crude when it's not face to face. Respect others.
@partsproduction Actually, I've agreed with you the whole time. I just didn't like your tone so I decided to troll you, dumbass. Also, we only beat England because France was kicking their ass at the same time.
@Guesswork01 "we only beat England because France was kicking their ass at the same time." It seems to me that if you have friends (Which someone who goes around disrespecting others without a cause wouldn't, of course.) they will quickly come to your aid no matter how well you are armed. Tienanmen square, guy standing in front of a tank, much more of that and the world would had "Words" with China. Revolutions are like that, once the world knows you have a cause worth dying for they help.
these are considered 'normal' firearms in Canada, but there usually are no ranges with a template for it - generally, rifles in this class are considered: "ANTI BIG STUPID DUMMY" rifles. Just kidding lol. :)
if it's for anti aircraft porpouses then why do you list up three things which aren't meant for shooting at aircraft? don't take it too seriously, just kidding
Google for "Class 3 NFA FAQ". You can occasionally find these for sale on Gunbroker (search for 20mm), or ask your local firearms dealer for a referral to a class 3 dealer, and ask the class 3 to find you a 20mm. Be prepared to pay $20,000 for the rifle, and then $10/round if you reload it, lots more if you just buy ammo. It ain't cheap, and that's why I'm glad it was Dave's rifle and I only bummed a single shot.
Thanks but holy lord, I'll have to do alot of stuff to get one... i'll have to spend alot of my savings in it and also see if i can get the legal permit to have one... Jesus... hope they let me have it (it is going to be difficult since i'm was not born in the US) ;-)
With modern APFSDS projectiles a 20mm round like that fired by the S-18/1000 (20x138B), will be able to penetrate a lot of armour. However a modern MBT it will most likely not hurt, as most MBTs have an armour protection equal to nearly 1 meter of high quality Rolled Homogenous Armour all around. But a Humvee won't prove a problem, and neither will a M117 troop carrier.
I know. But you can handload your own ammo, much cheaper. experiment with thermite (aluminum, rust mixture) and copper jackets (just a thought off the top of my head).
Hit anything in the tracks with such ammo and its melted. Thermite can burn at 4,000 degreese (i'm not sure) and with velocity and penetration that can do alot of damage.
Actually, most tanks have better protection against RPG's... since their actual usefulnes is the explosion they make, tanks can withstand that and you would be able to aim to good to very precise places to disable the tank, with one of these you have a chance...
Osmium is the densest of yet-created elements, and also very hard and strong. That said, the recoil could be at the break-your-ribcage point with that kind of ammo.
I know osmium makes up about 50% of a steel that isn't too brittle or toxic, since it has been used in record player needles for decades... Why is it so difficult to obtain?
I was talking about pure osmium being brittle. Osmium is found in many alloys naturally, many times with iridium. These alloys are mostly used in high wear areas, like the record needles you mentioned. Pure osmium reacts with the oxygen in the air to make osmium tetroxide, which is very toxic and reactive. This could be why it is hard to get in a pure form. Osmium is hard though, but its brittle and reactive nature make it unsuitable for ammunition.
I'm not certain, but I think it is so brittle that the force of the gunpowder charge could cause it to shatter before even leaving the barrel. Oh, you're welcome. I just remember talking about osmium in my AP chemistry class last year
The gun you see in this film is the Solothurn S-18/1000 ued by the German army scouts & Fallschirmjäger during WW2. It was designed by Rheinmetall Borsig in Germany and built in Switzerland. The muzzle velocity of the 140 gram (2160 grain) projectile is 850 m/s (2788 ft/s) and will penetrate 35mm of face hardened armour at 300m. The complete gun with empty magazine weighes 53 kg. The gun was fitted with a 6x scope and proved very effective as a long range anti material & sniper weapon.
apologies... u dident specify. i assumed you meant an RPG-7 since thats both the most common, and most recognizable RPG in the world. Accurized versions of an RPG-7 can be deadly accurate
Not gonna disagree with that. looking at the barrel alone makes my back hurt . . . and then you still have a ton of those huge 20mm bastards to carry around.
Okay 4 any1 reading this i had an argument with another person on whether or not som1's arm would come off if they were hit with a .50bmg round in the shoulder wut is ur opinion?
Why don't you try the empirical method? Get "som1" to shoot "u" in the shoulder with a .50 BMG, and see if "ur" arm is completely severed as a result. Come back when you speak English, and let us know.
It might depend on the range you fire from, 5.65 mm blanks can hurt you from 30 metres and the real round can blow a small whole in you so a fifty cal. round is probably more than capable of taking your arm of and at close/mid range it wil rip you apart.
hmmm anti-tank rifle... you would probably still fuckin die if it grazed you, or be cut in half....pretty much just die..if you were shot you would probably explode
I didn't know that thing existed. That's some thump. .787 inch projectile? I can't imagine it had ideal velocity. If it was "shoulder" fired. Or, it's a great design.
I haven't even scrolled down to look at the rest of the comments here, and I already know what book you are referring to! Unintended Consequences is where I first read about the Solothurn 20mm cannon, and is my favorite book of all time as well!
I do agree that .50 is good enough, but there's always room for better. I would rather use 2 sets of rounds with interchangeable barrels for the Barret. One in 12.7mm BMGs, and perhaps a larger round which can match the power of the 14.5mm Russian.
The Hungarian Gepard uses a Russian 14.5mm caliber, which is much more conventional and more powerful than our .50, 12.7mm BMGs.
14.5mm is the Russian Standard for heavy machine guns.
However, they use a variation of the .50 Caliber, but it's not a BMG, its a much longer round, with more penetrating power. BMG (12.7x99) Russian .50 (12.7x108). So still, even their .50 cals are better.
I would rather use a Gepard to take out personnel, and armored vehicles that the Barret for sure.
After going to a range in Africa, and firing one of these, the Barret M82 fires a cartridge, smallest of all anti-tank rifles, except the Mauser Anti-Tank. .50 vs .55 Boys? .50 vs 20mm? .50 (12.7mm) vs Russian 14.5mm? God, our country is making pellet guns compared to these European Beasts.
is it the fully automatic variant?
The6thMessenger 7 months ago
@The6thMessenger Nope, just semi-auto. I don't know if my shoulder could have withstood full-auto with this rifle.
ThingsThatGoKaboom 7 months ago 3
@ThingsThatGoKaboom well it has the Fully Automatic variant... Solothurn S-18/1100, i just need the ROF kay ^_^V
The6thMessenger 7 months ago
@villagepizza2 when this vid was uploaded
pyrochild1618 8 months ago
when did a 9mm lose its cool??
villagepizza2 8 months ago
Widely used in the Italian Armies in North Africa in WW2. Recoil isn't really an issue when the user is in a two-man desert foxhole, without any real artillery support, with several British Light A10-Mk2's, or Crusader cruiser tanks bearing down on you. To say it's a weapon of last resort , or ambush only, would be an understatement.
tcrlaf 8 months ago
you are one lucky guy. I would love to have such a relic from the second world war.
MeinKampfychannel 11 months ago
@MeinKampfychannel please re-read the description - this rifle is not mine. It belonged to some friends who were gracious enough to let me have a shot.
ThingsThatGoKaboom 11 months ago
i live in solothurn (small city in switzerland) and the weapon is a legend the factory was a big secret its still forbidden to talk about the time and the place where these weapons and other things were produced
nooooob84 1 year ago
dear santa...
Brentett 1 year ago 3
ah i love guns.
carlman1987 1 year ago
post a video of firing it full auto..now that's i want to see
its the Solothurn S-18/1100 selective fire..right
cool video..the only of its kind 5/5
toro199999 1 year ago
The gun that was in the book.."Unintended consequences" By John Ross,Ya'll need to read that book
cowboysteel 1 year ago
i love guns
2007blondie 1 year ago
@2007blondie i love guns too
EmilDur1945 1 year ago
@EmilDur1945 i love, and hate them lol kind of a guilty pleasure
TheBeairdManCometh 1 year ago
Henry Bowman? Is that you?
Haha, just kidding.
Nice rifle.
hydrashok556 1 year ago
When I was a kid, Solothurn anti-tank rifles were available mail-order in American Rifleman for about $275, and $5 per round.
teenonator 1 year ago
That shoulder must feel like it got kicked by a horse !
pveg65 1 year ago
oh god if the .50 cal can blow your limbs off then this thing would split you in half
Guynumber7 1 year ago
@Guynumber7 Yeah there wouldn't be enough left to fill a gallon size Ziplock !
hunter69denys 1 year ago
Like to see this on a long range hog hunt. Wonder what a 20mm would do to a 500lbs pig lol
evanarke 1 year ago
getting hit by that thing = %^&^%$^&^%$^&*)))
MrBrian987987 1 year ago 2
a place in switzerland is calle solothurn
marino4691 1 year ago
does anyone know whitch 20mm round has the most range and also the one that has the most power?
dontmakemeMAD1990 1 year ago
@dontmakemeMAD1990 Mag-Fed 20MM has effective range about 5000 yards
ww2footage 1 year ago
@ww2footage how far is that in meters?
dontmakemeMAD1990 1 year ago
@ww2footage btw thats the maximum range
and the barrett m107 has like the more then that as maximum range so
efective i think that gun shoots maybe 1.6km (big gues lol)
dontmakemeMAD1990 1 year ago
@ww2footage so you mean the vulcan 20mm round then?
dontmakemeMAD1990 1 year ago
they stopped it so abruptly so we couldnt hear him screaming from that broken collar bone
Dafroft 1 year ago 24
That's about what it looks like, yeah. Truth is, I cut the video because the camera work got really crappy immediately after that. My collarbone was sore, but not broken. Dave offered to let me shoot another round WITHOUT the muzzle brake, but I'm not stupid ...
ThingsThatGoKaboom 1 year ago 7
@ThingsThatGoKaboom I'de do it without the muzzle break! maybe.
saj12100 1 year ago
@ThingsThatGoKaboom -- what did you shoot ?
mysubsbang 1 year ago
We set up an old license plate in the dirt bowl that you can see in my other video, "36 bottles of tannerite." I don't know who managed to hit it, but there was a very large hole in the plate at the end of the day. Most of us there that day shot the rifle just to be able to say we shot it, not for accuracy.
ThingsThatGoKaboom 1 year ago
@ThingsThatGoKaboom sounds like dave is not your friend
TheMonkofshadows 1 year ago
less gun control on law abiding people, more enforcement of the laws on criminals!!!!
9998833 2 years ago 7
where do i get mine?
codebyjoe 2 years ago
I want one.
WunderDoob 2 years ago
Actually, Hitler did increase gun ownership...among Brownshirts and Nazis. Hitler also used gun registration lists of countries he invaded to identify and go after any potential civilian resistance.
Don't like the regular Joe totin' a 9mm? Tough. In the US, it's his right to do so. Google DC vs Heller. You also might not like the Jews down the street or the Muslims in their Mosque either. Doesn't matter. We run this country according to the Constitution, NOT your likes and dislikes.
1mile50 2 years ago 36
@1mile50 amen!
MrWalleyeDude 1 year ago
@1mile50 True!
captainbackflash 7 months ago
@1mile50 It was not only Hitler.Right after ww1 the illegal"Black Reichswehr"murdered many for owning guns.They made up black lists,took the persons from home and "shot them while attempting to flee". This was legal as long as the unarmed victim was shot in the back. In one case someone refused to turn around and was shot from the front,causing some trouble.See the book "Vier Jahre politischer Mord". I uploaded it together with some english books on Wuala, link is in the descriptions of my films
wwwtotalitaerde 6 months ago
well the .50 bmg just got owned
annasajerk 2 years ago 6
omg it weighs 45 kg , but 20 mm pwns !~
bantheidiotsplz 2 years ago
I bet when the Elite, Globalists, New World Order, Illuminati, whatever you want to call them, clamps down on the public and starts confiscating all of our guns (probably very soon), these guns will be the first thing they come after.
God forbid the citizens have weapons that could defeat tyranny. 150 million armed americans is mightier than any army on earth.
Tyrants agree: Gun Control WORKS! Just ask Stalin, Mao, Hitler and good ol' Kim Jung Il.
mrjustin5 2 years ago 30
You're so narrowminded.
DutchManticore 2 years ago
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You made your point in such a way that I can hardly argue and not sound like a baby-eating gun-hating communist, but here goes:
Gun Control ALSO works in places like Australia, the UK and other places with the effect of less gun violence and accidental shootings.
The people trying to push gun control aren't trying to take away your freedom, they're trying to make things safer by having fewer instruments of death floating around.
I'm not saying I agree with that, but I'm sure that's how it is.
aaronz101 2 years ago
MASS MURDERS AGREE: Gun Control WORKS! - Just ask Hitler, Stalin and Mao. Mao ALONE accounts for 50 to 60 MILLION DEAD.
Yeah, you know why you said you can hardly argue against my comment without sounding like a baby-eating gun-hating communist? Its because I'm right.
Let them take ALL your freedom and weapons. Cowards like you shit yourself if you see an average Joe with a gun, but you see a COP in his COSTUME (uniform) with a gun and you feel safe. What a disarmed brainwashed fool you are.
mrjustin5 2 years ago 3
No need to get offensive here.
You know why people don't like the looks of the average Joe toting a gun around? Because you have no idea what he's going to do with it. When it's as easy to get a gun as it is, then there's no saying if Mr. 9mm is in the hands of someone who actually plans to use it for home defense or who may well shoot the next passerby and so forth.
If the Ruskies invade and it's up to him to form a civvy milia, then great, but otherwise it's one more potential killer.
aaronz101 2 years ago
actually hitler increased gun ownership-check your facts
korn6499 2 years ago
@aaronz101 guns have been baned in the uk since the 90's but it hasnt stopped gun crime at all. reactivated, converted and weapons smugeled in from eastern europe are easy 2 obtain we still have gun crime, just look at london. granted it may not be on the scale that the us suffers but gun control only stops law abiding people owning guns as criminals dont give a toss about gun restrictions, they break the law by nature so restrictions aint going 2 stop them! gun control punishes the law abiding
creeperCBS 2 years ago
Fair enough, but the thing is, without gun control there are just more guns floating around. Criminals will always have firearms, but now they can be more easily attained by simply robbing a house. Not to mention accidental deaths and caused by civilians whom misuse their weapons.
But I understand that people should have the right to defend themselves too, so it is a dilemma. Personally I'm not living in a country where it's a big issue, and I'm not taking sides. That's just how I see it.
aaronz101 2 years ago
your right on that,countries like the u.s do have more of a problem due 2 the ease which guns are obtained and without better regulation i do belive their situation can possibly get worse. i just feel the ban on guns like we have in the uk is wrong when it punishes the law abiding when the criminals will get them if required regardless. i really do belive people should b able 2 defend there home , family or person when needed. so yeh, i agree with you that there needs 2 b gun control to a degree
creeperCBS 2 years ago
so what people just leave guns laying round there house most gun owners have them in locked cases and lockers
thatonigod 2 years ago
I'm talking about the minority of people that aren't so careful, there are awfully stupid people at there, make no mistake.
aaronz101 2 years ago
yes im aware of that those are the ones that shouldnt be alowed guns cuse only a idiot would leave a gun laying around for some random rober to grab sure not many people are expecting to get robed but stuff happens thats y gun lockers were made to keep them safe and away from people that shouldnt touch them
thatonigod 2 years ago
Maybe you home owners do, but I rent and have only a 10'x10' space to put stuff in-no room for a bulky gun cabinet. I just dont let too many people know what I have, and I keep them out of plain sight when im gone. There are no children around so this works, but if there were I would have those gun locks on the triggers.
korn6499 2 years ago
major flaws in thinking like you and so many others do. 1) it is a right, to go againt it is illegal, PERIOD. 2) you compare the number of guns proportionally to the number of crimes-- wrong. 3) any real research will show you "average joe" with a gun will protect someone MANY times more than a criminal will use a weapon of any kind to commit a crime. 4)outlawing firearms criminalizes those who know their life(or rape prevention) is more important than how a coward in washington feels.
crockagater 1 year ago
As I've said numerous times, I don't hold these views myself, I'm just trying to demonstrate the reasons -for- gun control.
For your third point, how can somebody possibly protect their family with a firearm on more occasions than a criminal uses one for whatever illegal activity? What exactly would they then be protecting their families from? Angry animals? Given that from a logical standpoint they would have to then be protecting their families from something other than an armed criminal...
aaronz101 1 year ago
@aaronz101 obviously you are being rediculous now. Why, if you do not support these views, would you make a case against a right? Obviously I was referring to the total number of people who defend themselves vs the number of criminals who attack people. Most crimes in this country don't even involve a gun. I am not angry, but you seem to be promoting what you say you don't agree with.
crockagater 1 year ago
@crockagater This is because earlier on (here, I think) someone was promoting his opinions on gun-control and got torched for it, with people saying he wanted them controlled out of cowardice. I just stated the reasons why he might think like that. Then people replied to me and I replied back and so forth.
Personally I'm FOR responsible people being able to carry firearms. Stats have shown that crime goes down when people are afraid to start trouble with someone who may be packing heat.
aaronz101 1 year ago
@aaronz101 (Continued) But that doesn't mean that there aren't any valid reasons FOR gun control. It's up to you to weigh up the pros and cons yourself but people should be aware of, and acknowledge both sides of the coin.
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@aaronz101 (Continued) But that doesn't mean that there aren't any valid reasons FOR gun control. It's up to you to weigh up the pros and cons yourself but people should be aware of, and acknowledge both sides of the coin.
aaronz101 1 year ago
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@aaronz101 (Continued) But that doesn't mean that there aren't any valid reasons FOR gun control. It's up to you to weigh up the pros and cons yourself but people should be aware of, and acknowledge both sides of the coin.
aaronz101 1 year ago
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@aaronz101 (Continued) But that doesn't mean that there aren't any valid reasons FOR gun control. It's up to you to weigh up the pros and cons yourself but people should be aware of, and acknowledge both sides of the coin.
aaronz101 1 year ago
@aaronz101 Why isn't THIS comment getting thumbs up?
While deterrence isn't entirely the answer to solving conflict, a little never hurts. Most sane, law-abiding people should be allowed to carry firearms, and should be taught proper respect for the power that such weapons have so they don't do anything stupid with them.
RRVCrinale 1 year ago 2
well a law only works if people are willing to folow it and the people who dont jsut got more dangerous cause they know hey they are gona shoot back
thatonigod 2 years ago
@mrjustin5 You got that right ! Tyrants HATE an armed populus, thums up !
hunter69denys 1 year ago
@mrjustin5
Observation: You are afraid to lose your gun. You think there is a global conspiracy. You talk about God.You think the world want to become communist and be ruled by a tyrant, except your country.
Hypothesis:
You are:
an American
a christian fundie
heavily Influenced by anxiety or fear, to the point of irrationality and delusion as the results of previous government's cult of fear and your religion.
It's funny how much we can learn about other just by reading a few word.
vava54own 1 year ago
@mrjustin5 From personal observation I can tell you that people are stockpiling their weapons to avoid confiscation.
TheSlyther 1 year ago
@mrjustin5 love man dead on
TheMonkofshadows 1 year ago
@mrjustin5 how about an army of 1 billion armed Chinese? I'm American, just wondering what you would think about that? If they had to, I'm sure it'd get to that
Shadowboost 1 year ago
@mrjustin5 hold on. are you saying yes or no to american gun control?
MrPennyworth007 1 year ago
@mrjustin5 This gun will also be the last gun these fuckers come after. *locks and loads*
ImperialUprising 1 year ago 3
@mrjustin5 US citizen here. I am a gun owner and I support my right to defend myself against criminals and murderers. However, regarding the 2nd amendment as a "reset button" on governmental tyrrany, need I remind you that the US army has remote-control flying killer space robots with laser guided missiles? You really think a 20mm rifle is going to do shit against them if push comes to shove?
Guesswork01 6 months ago
@Guesswork01 Yeah, ok, Killer Space Robots, gotchya. Looks like someones watching too much Anime. Listen, even with a KNIFE you can get a hold of some guns. And with some guns to arm some people, you can take over a building, facility, then take over the tanks or planes or whatever. WE are the military. WE are the arm. WE are the government. Besides, there are plenty of people in the military who dont want to kill their family and who are on our side. You do not have a valid point. Dont be weak
mrjustin5 6 months ago
"General_Atomics_MQ-1_Predator"
How about you attack this with a knife. In fact, you go first, I'll watch.
Guesswork01 6 months ago
@Guesswork01 Ask the Vietnamese if people with antique small caliber rifles can start a revolution to remove a space age world class military force from their country. Your comment shows that you don't understand the nature of guerrilla warfare. I'm not praising the commy's, but they were DETERMINED to eject the strongest military on earth from their country and the did it, and it started with a bunch of turn of the century relic rifles.
partsproduction 5 months ago
@partsproduction The Vietcong threw a foreign army out of their country after 15 years because the US people got sick of funding a war half a world away. So, yeah, your analogy kind of breaks down when you're talking about a government repressing its OWN people on its OWN territory. Usually, domestic revolts fail, and if they don't, it's because they use the media and support of foreign powers to pressure their government into submission. And it's spelled "commies," dumbass.
Guesswork01 5 months ago
@Guesswork01 No two revolutions are the same, but almost all of them start small with a few under armed patriots who are willing to die for their cause. If you had an open mind you could see that. Our own revolution is a good example, and until almost the last few weeks of the war few people thought we could overthrow Mighty England. What kind of persons calls a total stranger a name like that? Seems to be a youtube thing, people are rude and crude when it's not face to face. Respect others.
partsproduction 5 months ago
@partsproduction Actually, I've agreed with you the whole time. I just didn't like your tone so I decided to troll you, dumbass. Also, we only beat England because France was kicking their ass at the same time.
Guesswork01 5 months ago
@Guesswork01 "we only beat England because France was kicking their ass at the same time." It seems to me that if you have friends (Which someone who goes around disrespecting others without a cause wouldn't, of course.) they will quickly come to your aid no matter how well you are armed. Tienanmen square, guy standing in front of a tank, much more of that and the world would had "Words" with China. Revolutions are like that, once the world knows you have a cause worth dying for they help.
partsproduction 5 months ago
if i stood right in front of the barrel, i could take the shot fine.
BHAZ4WINGS 2 years ago
- The recoil didn't look that bad. . . .
marmaloon 2 years ago
yeah well when you gun weighs over a hundred lbs it tends to lower the recoil
bobwatters 2 years ago 2
not to mention he was prone, and shooting a heavy gun, and only firing one shot.
Beeasty 2 years ago
these are considered 'normal' firearms in Canada, but there usually are no ranges with a template for it - generally, rifles in this class are considered: "ANTI BIG STUPID DUMMY" rifles. Just kidding lol. :)
marmaloon 2 years ago
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just testing out the new curse blocker
fuck curse blockers!
fuck school!
and this gun kicks the fuck out of my shit!!!
fo0fighter1592 2 years ago
wow awsome! This gun is named by the city i life: Solothurn in Switzerland...
boelkstoff88 2 years ago
bist du sicher ,dass die nach solothurn bennant wurde?lebe auch da =)
hueregagi 2 years ago
It was designed by swedes. It means solitary hunter.
solothyrn 2 years ago
and Volvos are built in Switzerland;-)
N9155E 2 years ago
woot volvos :D word
caguppy123 2 years ago
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burt2800 2 years ago
lol
42warman 2 years ago
is that gun anti material?
42warman 2 years ago
anti-anything LoL!
mxf7010g8k 2 years ago
yes! its round was designed for anti aircraft purposes. apache's, spooky c130's, cobras mostly still carry this round as the main gun.
gammathetasbear 2 years ago
if it's for anti aircraft porpouses then why do you list up three things which aren't meant for shooting at aircraft? don't take it too seriously, just kidding
burt2800 2 years ago
lmao i see what ur saying
gammathetasbear 2 years ago
the 20mm shells for anti aircraft exploded sending shrapnel everywhere, the projectile shot out of this is probably just a big chunk of lead
baconator490 2 years ago
are you kidding? the 50 is a beast!
42warman 2 years ago
lol then this thing is a monster XD
codyshumer 2 years ago
You need to get off your can and make some more videos. How about some 50 cal videos?
brian1269 2 years ago
no joke, I saw one lawson's outfitters the other day.
tjthemadman 2 years ago
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damn id like to see one of these go up aginst a M82A1
Cipher158 2 years ago
M82A1 is nothing compared to this. They're also used for completely different things
Penguinz13989 2 years ago
Where can i find this rifle? I Really like it!!
DONChuto 2 years ago
Google for "Class 3 NFA FAQ". You can occasionally find these for sale on Gunbroker (search for 20mm), or ask your local firearms dealer for a referral to a class 3 dealer, and ask the class 3 to find you a 20mm. Be prepared to pay $20,000 for the rifle, and then $10/round if you reload it, lots more if you just buy ammo. It ain't cheap, and that's why I'm glad it was Dave's rifle and I only bummed a single shot.
ThingsThatGoKaboom 2 years ago
Thanks but holy lord, I'll have to do alot of stuff to get one... i'll have to spend alot of my savings in it and also see if i can get the legal permit to have one... Jesus... hope they let me have it (it is going to be difficult since i'm was not born in the US) ;-)
DONChuto 2 years ago
anzio iron works sells a sinlgeshot 50 inch barrel 20mm rifle version an the solothurn ammo is harder to find than 20 mm vulcan
bobfe360 2 years ago
Uranium shells or not, i wouldnt want to be in its way
sjsuPimp 2 years ago
Small correction, I meant the M113 troop carrier, not the M117.
bellator11 2 years ago
With modern APFSDS projectiles a 20mm round like that fired by the S-18/1000 (20x138B), will be able to penetrate a lot of armour. However a modern MBT it will most likely not hurt, as most MBTs have an armour protection equal to nearly 1 meter of high quality Rolled Homogenous Armour all around. But a Humvee won't prove a problem, and neither will a M117 troop carrier.
bellator11 2 years ago
50$ a "bullet" i can guarentee you.
Southern661 3 years ago 2
I dont think these can take out a tank, maybe an APC, truck, humvee, or heli but even IFV's have 20mm protection.
Southern661 3 years ago
Modern tanks/IFV's? No.
But it's a weapon from the late 1930's -early 1940's. It wasn't bad against light AFV's of it's era.
0bverse 3 years ago 2
I know. But you can handload your own ammo, much cheaper. experiment with thermite (aluminum, rust mixture) and copper jackets (just a thought off the top of my head).
Hit anything in the tracks with such ammo and its melted. Thermite can burn at 4,000 degreese (i'm not sure) and with velocity and penetration that can do alot of damage.
Southern661 3 years ago
Not destroy, but disable easily.
The US Army documented an instance of an M1 Abrams tank being disabled at Baghdad airport due to a 12.7mm round taken to the engine assembly.
So if you can get a good enough position and you can get a good few shots in you could disable some tanks...
Although an RPG would be a lot more effective.
cl0vvntiem 2 years ago
Actually, most tanks have better protection against RPG's... since their actual usefulnes is the explosion they make, tanks can withstand that and you would be able to aim to good to very precise places to disable the tank, with one of these you have a chance...
DONChuto 2 years ago
I doubt that 20mm rounds would ever outperform an RPG, unless for some unfathomable reason a tank is built with only reactive armor for protection...
cl0vvntiem 2 years ago
Yes, but the reactive armor they have AND the RPG slats on the sides of most vehicles nowadays reduce their effectiveness.
daishi2442 2 years ago
depleted uranium bullets anyone?
redeyesthe20th 2 years ago
Expensive anyone?
HogsBoysMavsCards 2 years ago
illegal any one? platnium is a little denser than du
bobfe360 2 years ago
Yeah and its also much more soft and thus a poor choice for an ap round.
mynameistoolonglol 2 years ago
Osmium is the densest of yet-created elements, and also very hard and strong. That said, the recoil could be at the break-your-ribcage point with that kind of ammo.
Sablestone 2 years ago
Osmium is extremely brittle though, and it reacts with air to make a very toxic compound. It is also very difficult to obtain.
aircaptain9 2 years ago
I know osmium makes up about 50% of a steel that isn't too brittle or toxic, since it has been used in record player needles for decades... Why is it so difficult to obtain?
Sablestone 2 years ago
I was talking about pure osmium being brittle. Osmium is found in many alloys naturally, many times with iridium. These alloys are mostly used in high wear areas, like the record needles you mentioned. Pure osmium reacts with the oxygen in the air to make osmium tetroxide, which is very toxic and reactive. This could be why it is hard to get in a pure form. Osmium is hard though, but its brittle and reactive nature make it unsuitable for ammunition.
aircaptain9 2 years ago
I guess you can learn something on YouTube! Thanks, Aircaptain. Incidentally, what disadvantages to brittle ammunition are there?
Sablestone 2 years ago
I'm not certain, but I think it is so brittle that the force of the gunpowder charge could cause it to shatter before even leaving the barrel. Oh, you're welcome. I just remember talking about osmium in my AP chemistry class last year
aircaptain9 2 years ago
pffft i could shoot that with one hand. lol i joke i probally couldnt even lift that above my head. lol
blacksoilder10 3 years ago
The gun you see in this film is the Solothurn S-18/1000 ued by the German army scouts & Fallschirmjäger during WW2. It was designed by Rheinmetall Borsig in Germany and built in Switzerland. The muzzle velocity of the 140 gram (2160 grain) projectile is 850 m/s (2788 ft/s) and will penetrate 35mm of face hardened armour at 300m. The complete gun with empty magazine weighes 53 kg. The gun was fitted with a 6x scope and proved very effective as a long range anti material & sniper weapon.
bellator11 3 years ago 4
that was a beautiful explanation
tyler7491 3 years ago 2
I agree. I almost cried.....
hightower2011 3 years ago
i did cry. YOUR MY HERO
Squanky3 3 years ago
i jizzed in my pants reading this
nick0wnsu 3 years ago
and what are you going to use that for? if you gotta destroy something, and RPG is way easier to carry, and prob. destroys more...
wuhu12344 3 years ago
Did you read the description? The rifle belonged to a friend - not me. I shot it once for fun.
As for an RPG, I doubt that there are any available on a Form 4. Take what you can get.
ThingsThatGoKaboom 3 years ago
...try hitting ANYTHING with an rpg at long range. good luck
lukemcclelland 3 years ago
i meant those newer ones, dont know what they're named in english, you can easily hit at long range with those.
wuhu12344 3 years ago
im not sure what your coneption of long range is... quality RPG's with skilled operators can easily tag a light fighting vehicle at 225 meters.
Gooseman2k2 3 years ago
stop trying to be smart... i meant an RPG from the same era as this gun. the WWII RPG's were so innacurate
lukemcclelland 3 years ago
apologies... u dident specify. i assumed you meant an RPG-7 since thats both the most common, and most recognizable RPG in the world. Accurized versions of an RPG-7 can be deadly accurate
Gooseman2k2 3 years ago
also, 225 m isn't that long range. most 20mm weapons can reliably hit targets at ranges exceeding 1000m.
Thuringen 3 years ago
Yes but RPG's have the benefit of portability. You ain't moving around much with that solothurn or lathi.
Toolofdeath 2 years ago
Not gonna disagree with that. looking at the barrel alone makes my back hurt . . . and then you still have a ton of those huge 20mm bastards to carry around.
Thuringen 2 years ago
that's gonna leave a bruise, or a dislocated shoulder
mexchico17 3 years ago
Okay 4 any1 reading this i had an argument with another person on whether or not som1's arm would come off if they were hit with a .50bmg round in the shoulder wut is ur opinion?
RebelSince1776 3 years ago
Why don't you try the empirical method? Get "som1" to shoot "u" in the shoulder with a .50 BMG, and see if "ur" arm is completely severed as a result. Come back when you speak English, and let us know.
ThingsThatGoKaboom 3 years ago
It might depend on the range you fire from, 5.65 mm blanks can hurt you from 30 metres and the real round can blow a small whole in you so a fifty cal. round is probably more than capable of taking your arm of and at close/mid range it wil rip you apart.
mukers 3 years ago
if u hit someone in the shoulder with a 50. i think his arm will be his last worry...
but as there is a lot of bone mass around the shoulder, i think his left chest and neck will blow of with the arm...
fonsy85 3 years ago
Its been said a .50BMG will blow a hole in a man the size of a garbage can lid.
MrBillTroop73 3 years ago
there would be no arm left
Dafroft 3 years ago
hmmm anti-tank rifle... you would probably still fuckin die if it grazed you, or be cut in half....pretty much just die..if you were shot you would probably explode
jocbaker69 3 years ago
thats insane, a gigantic cartridge
n9athan 3 years ago
that is INsane..
spriggan969 3 years ago
I didn't know that thing existed. That's some thump. .787 inch projectile? I can't imagine it had ideal velocity. If it was "shoulder" fired. Or, it's a great design.
dcd442 3 years ago
2640FPS, or so. Certainly not a wimpy cartridge.
elitearbor 3 years ago 2
Lahti AT-"rifle" was good against tanks -39-40, not after that. It "ate" same 20mm round as german WW2 AA-20mm's, so called Solothurn-20mm.
Lahti AT was later in war used for sniping :)
Not great success, but dis it's job :)
tunkki321 3 years ago
Henry Bowman's weapon of choice. Read Unintended Consequences if you don't know what I talking about.
platform389 3 years ago 3
That was a very good book.
EmeraldFalcon89 3 years ago
That is my favorite book. Read it twice and own multiple copies so others can read it too.
DobermansRock 2 years ago
my favorite book of all time..should be required reading in all high schools and colleges. time to feed the hogs lol
ret13yrs 3 years ago
I haven't even scrolled down to look at the rest of the comments here, and I already know what book you are referring to! Unintended Consequences is where I first read about the Solothurn 20mm cannon, and is my favorite book of all time as well!
Shooter12point7 3 years ago
this was used in n africa by italian troops,usually against commonwealth light armour
autoblindato 3 years ago
H O L Y CRAP!!!!!!!!
Model1862Henry 3 years ago
It has a point.. to kill tanks. But now we have rocket launchers for that. So it really is pointless anyway.
J1mmyP4ge 3 years ago
it could still be used to explode peoples heads :D
DjSLyCK 3 years ago 2
It can still be used to take out technicals and suicide cars
nurbSoldier 3 years ago
I do agree that .50 is good enough, but there's always room for better. I would rather use 2 sets of rounds with interchangeable barrels for the Barret. One in 12.7mm BMGs, and perhaps a larger round which can match the power of the 14.5mm Russian.
joemeas 3 years ago
The Hungarian Gepard uses a Russian 14.5mm caliber, which is much more conventional and more powerful than our .50, 12.7mm BMGs.
14.5mm is the Russian Standard for heavy machine guns.
However, they use a variation of the .50 Caliber, but it's not a BMG, its a much longer round, with more penetrating power. BMG (12.7x99) Russian .50 (12.7x108). So still, even their .50 cals are better.
I would rather use a Gepard to take out personnel, and armored vehicles that the Barret for sure.
joemeas 3 years ago
After going to a range in Africa, and firing one of these, the Barret M82 fires a cartridge, smallest of all anti-tank rifles, except the Mauser Anti-Tank. .50 vs .55 Boys? .50 vs 20mm? .50 (12.7mm) vs Russian 14.5mm? God, our country is making pellet guns compared to these European Beasts.
joemeas 3 years ago
whahahah 50. barett eat ur hart out :)
deallerbeste123 3 years ago
This is a .80 cal
SWmodel29 3 years ago 2
Where were you when you shot this?
mercurymango 3 years ago