The string players are perfectly together (3:30 - 3:45)! It's astonishing, the level of cooperation in that section (not to say that the piano isn't completely there), it's like listening to one single instrument. Very very well done!
I love this piece and I think there are some really lovely moments. I would however suggest using the short-stick on the piano for a better blending of sound. Also, some experimentation with the pedal to ensure that the cello doesn't get lost in the mix, esp in the lower registers. The sound should be full and round, yet still clear and unified.
There is really no need for people to criticize. It is a live performance! Overall i think it is well done and the pianist is bloody amazing. This piece is hard - it's Brahms! I love the way you guys change dynamics at around 6mins 20, and when it comes to that beautiful theme its just gorgeous.
i think the recaptiulation is really good. about 6:45. the strength of the agitation in the piano adds a lot of flavour to this moment, particularly when leaning into the c-sharp minor chord there. yeah you did get a bit carried away, but the others didn't get carried away enough and this isn't a piece where you should play it safe.
Fantastic! Regarding the speed - I didn't find it too fast at all. In fact, It needs to be like that to capture the essence of the piece. Congratulations!
You seem to understand most the "con brio" aspect of the movement. This is the work of a very young Brahms. In spite of the dreamy effervescence of some moments, it is somehow formatively passionate. Certainly it is not a mini piano concerto, but it is also not late Brahms. Your intentions were felt and appreciated! BTW, your elbows are remarkably fluid. Did you work on gyrotonics?
Thanks for your eloquent comment. You are very right on all counts - except for the final - gyrotonics would be something I'm almost entirely unfamiliar with. I suppose the fluid elbow is mainly a positive effect of my teacher's... teachings.
You are very right - few teachers ever talk about anatomy. Efficient and effective use of the body would be just one of the core parts of his teaching - Marc Durand is his name.
it depends on which edition of the piece is being performed as to whether it is early or late brahms. he initially wrote the piece when he was about 20 then editited much later on in life. so it could be either, i'm not sure which edition is being played here
i think that both versions are brilliant. i have heard both and i think the earlier version in more wild and perhaps fiery. i think both versions are cool tho
It is not late Brahms any more than the Liszt's 1851 (S139) Etudes are early works. A revision of an earlier work does not constitute an entirely new work.
Brahms himself said that it was cleaner, but not necessarily better.
I think I'll have to politely disagree. Op. 8b wasn't revised until 35 years after its initial appearance, having written it first as a 20-year old... undoubtedly he was a very different man by that point. As well, we're not talking about simple cosmetic changes: a 1/3 of it was chopped off, and only the Scherzo was left unaltered (basically). Only the main themes from the three other movements were kept, while most of the other material was re-imagined and tightened.
Well, always? I guess we did play it this fast for the four days we learned and rehearsed it... we haven't exactly had a history with it ;) The movement is marked Allegro con brio - so I can't imagine we would done it differently now.
Alberto - no need to apologize. Thank you for translating. And yes, thank you for pointing out, I was the culprit in the balance. I got terribly over-excited (you'd think I'd never played chamber music before...) and just played WAY too loud sometimes. But I'm glad you enjoy it nonetheless.
yay! a cellist that's expressive and uses lots and lots of VIBRATO!! The communication between all the instruments is so good therefore the blending sounds awesome! wow. great playing!
It's a fantastic perfoProxy-Connection: keep-alive
Cache-Control: max-age=0
ance, and really does Brahms justice :) It really portrays not only him as a composer, but as a character and a temperament.
A Firery, passionate, l
SebastienLoong 2 years ago
Bravo!!! Thank you! Our trio is tackling this piece this semester, you've given us some invaluable ideas!
areallyokaycat 2 years ago
Beautiful performance
malolita09 2 years ago
A beautiful performance - I have been listening to this for hours but this particular rendition has brightened my day.
CharlesCLeary 2 years ago
Thanks Charles - it sure is great music, isn't it?
PhilipWChiu 2 years ago
The string players are perfectly together (3:30 - 3:45)! It's astonishing, the level of cooperation in that section (not to say that the piano isn't completely there), it's like listening to one single instrument. Very very well done!
PhysiqueQuantique 2 years ago
well done!
8:10 - you change the colour beautifully!
yellowyellowrose 3 years ago
Thank you! It's definitely one of my favorite moments in that piece...
PhilipWChiu 3 years ago
Excellent rendition of one of my favourite piece of music. All the better for the passionate playing. This cheered me up a lot, well done.
CasanovasHanging 3 years ago
I love this piece and I think there are some really lovely moments. I would however suggest using the short-stick on the piano for a better blending of sound. Also, some experimentation with the pedal to ensure that the cello doesn't get lost in the mix, esp in the lower registers. The sound should be full and round, yet still clear and unified.
joesullins 3 years ago
There is really no need for people to criticize. It is a live performance! Overall i think it is well done and the pianist is bloody amazing. This piece is hard - it's Brahms! I love the way you guys change dynamics at around 6mins 20, and when it comes to that beautiful theme its just gorgeous.
charliejeanbird 3 years ago
fantastic, well done - you really captured the 'con brio' spirit!
pots1001 3 years ago
i think the recaptiulation is really good. about 6:45. the strength of the agitation in the piano adds a lot of flavour to this moment, particularly when leaning into the c-sharp minor chord there. yeah you did get a bit carried away, but the others didn't get carried away enough and this isn't a piece where you should play it safe.
howlingmadhowie 3 years ago
Five Star!
MatthewJohnIgnacio 4 years ago
sometimes the piani is too loud and certain cords are too draggy. but i like the speed, unlike beaux arts trio who always paly too fast, hate them
polarise91 4 years ago
Fantastic! Regarding the speed - I didn't find it too fast at all. In fact, It needs to be like that to capture the essence of the piece. Congratulations!
Flyingbuck 4 years ago
Complimenti! Siete veramente grandi, bravi!
Congratulations, you are really good! And young!
Ciao!
moniconz 4 years ago
ONLY I CAN SAY : BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO. . . .especially pianist
PBogiman 4 years ago
You seem to understand most the "con brio" aspect of the movement. This is the work of a very young Brahms. In spite of the dreamy effervescence of some moments, it is somehow formatively passionate. Certainly it is not a mini piano concerto, but it is also not late Brahms. Your intentions were felt and appreciated! BTW, your elbows are remarkably fluid. Did you work on gyrotonics?
pyroprince78 4 years ago
Thanks for your eloquent comment. You are very right on all counts - except for the final - gyrotonics would be something I'm almost entirely unfamiliar with. I suppose the fluid elbow is mainly a positive effect of my teacher's... teachings.
PhilipWChiu 4 years ago
Interesting... who is your teacher? VERY few teachers go into detail about the anatomy. Counterintuitive, no? But it's true.
pyroprince78 4 years ago
You are very right - few teachers ever talk about anatomy. Efficient and effective use of the body would be just one of the core parts of his teaching - Marc Durand is his name.
PhilipWChiu 4 years ago
it IS "late Brahms". getta know the piece boy
sawyer10j 4 years ago
Constructive.
PhilipWChiu 4 years ago
it depends on which edition of the piece is being performed as to whether it is early or late brahms. he initially wrote the piece when he was about 20 then editited much later on in life. so it could be either, i'm not sure which edition is being played here
spdraper12 4 years ago
The later version - I don't know that anybody plays the earlier much anymore. Brahms revised it for a very good reason.
PhilipWChiu 4 years ago
i think that both versions are brilliant. i have heard both and i think the earlier version in more wild and perhaps fiery. i think both versions are cool tho
spdraper12 4 years ago
It is not late Brahms any more than the Liszt's 1851 (S139) Etudes are early works. A revision of an earlier work does not constitute an entirely new work.
Brahms himself said that it was cleaner, but not necessarily better.
dnephi 3 years ago
I think I'll have to politely disagree. Op. 8b wasn't revised until 35 years after its initial appearance, having written it first as a 20-year old... undoubtedly he was a very different man by that point. As well, we're not talking about simple cosmetic changes: a 1/3 of it was chopped off, and only the Scherzo was left unaltered (basically). Only the main themes from the three other movements were kept, while most of the other material was re-imagined and tightened.
PhilipWChiu 3 years ago
To paraphrase what I read somewhere: It has the heart of a young Brahms, but the hands and mind of a much later Brahms.
PhilipWChiu 3 years ago
goooooooooooooooooooooooooddddddd
especially 4:45
clydecrunchy 4 years ago
amazing.....i love it
megan8290 4 years ago
It's well worth hearing, and thank you for posting it - but do you guys always take this movement this fast?
Moegiust 4 years ago
Well, always? I guess we did play it this fast for the four days we learned and rehearsed it... we haven't exactly had a history with it ;) The movement is marked Allegro con brio - so I can't imagine we would done it differently now.
PhilipWChiu 4 years ago
oo i know matt :D nice to see him on youtube. nice playing, guys
slicejl152 4 years ago
the violin and the cello sound low in comparison with the piano, but this is a wonderful recording of a wonderful trio of a great composer.
P.S: Sorry about the translation.I don't speak English very well
alberto831892 4 years ago
Alberto - no need to apologize. Thank you for translating. And yes, thank you for pointing out, I was the culprit in the balance. I got terribly over-excited (you'd think I'd never played chamber music before...) and just played WAY too loud sometimes. But I'm glad you enjoy it nonetheless.
PhilipWChiu 4 years ago
high quality performance :)
ghostpianist 4 years ago
el piano tapa el algunos momentos a la cuerda, pero por lo demás es una fantástica grabación de un fantástico trío.
alberto831892 4 years ago
Thanks for the comment. Could you possibly translate that into English... I'm not quite fluent in Spanish yet.
PhilipWChiu 4 years ago
yay! a cellist that's expressive and uses lots and lots of VIBRATO!! The communication between all the instruments is so good therefore the blending sounds awesome! wow. great playing!
bridgetchang 4 years ago