One comment you made caught my attention. And the comment was this; "You should not simply believe things because everyone else believes it..." That is one of the most accurate statements that anyone can make. Unfortunately Most people on this earth do. Including people who believe in a creator and people who don't. You are included in that also unfortunately. I know there is a creator but I am not a creationist nor an evolutionist. I deal with facts not conjectures; And You?
Indeed, we both believe irrational, insane things because we are human. Our minds are not made to be logical - we can be taught it, but most of the mind will never fully accept it. Hell, we probably believe some batshit insane ideas because everyone else does, and we've never questioned it. Without a reference level, there is no question to ask.
However, yes I still believe evolution is the best explanation we have of our current form. It fits the evidence best.
@SolRosenberg84 That evidence you are talking about is as biased as creationist saying that the earth was created in 6 literal days. Even when someone shows them proof from the book they claim to believe in that it does NOT say that the earth was created in 6 literal days they usually do NOT budge from their bias. Is that how you are?
>That evidence you are talking about is as biased as creationist saying that the earth was created in 6 literal days.
Ugh... You do understand that there is a difference between a single book, proclaimed as correct via circular logic, and a large body of evidence ranging from fossils to DNA pointing to shared ancestry - right?
>BUT YOU BOTH ACT THE SAME
No we don't. I'll admit I'm wrong if presented with evidence. The creationist will go "DERP" and ignore evidence.
@SolRosenberg84 Actually the evidence shows that no living creature has ever come from non living matter. DNA has commonalities in every living creature because every living creature is from this earth which Science has proven we are made of the very elements found in the earth. So when they tell us we have common DNA it is more than a little Misleading.
In case of option B, equating religious dogmatic belief (believing in things which we would view as impossible in our day to day lives as valid with no evidence whatsoever) with believing the earth spins (which is validated by all observation, and can be confrimed from an individual perspective) is insane.
tl;dr - I believe because the evidence suggests it =/= I believe because I want to.
no, Sol. I'm serious. Why do you think the earth spins? I don't think it spins and didn't your grade school teacher tell you it spun before you had a change to think for yourself about it? Why would you think it spun when you were a little boy, before you were told it spun?
The fact that all of reality is monstrously counter-intuitive to human intuition does not mean it is automatically invalid.
Fucking germs are counter-intuitive. If someone walked up to people before we knew of thier existence, and explained that disease was caused by creatures too small to be viewed, you'd have been locked up or killed. Bacteria would still exist though.
Intuition means nothing. Evidence means everything, and even that doesn't always work.
@SolRosenberg84 What I'm trying to tell you Sol is that we have been lied to by the educational establishments concerning the nature of the universe.
Here, if you have a couple minutes visit my website where I propose that the public has been hypnotized into accepting a scientific concept that is inversely opposed to the actual state of affairs...best wishes (god)
Ahh, so you're a tinfoil-hatted nutter - with the requisite batshit insane website and everything. It all makes perfect sense now.
One question, Ace. How does technology (the computer your posting from, for instance) work if true reality is the exact opposite of what peer-reviewed science shows? Fairy dust? Unicorn blood?
I imagine your reply would be wonderfully entertaining, if very, very sad.
@SolRosenberg84 I enjoyed your points about dogma. It's hardly exclusive to religion. I break from the New Atheist movement which holds "I hate religion" up like some sort of ignorant battle cry. It's telling that many only consider what we call "religion" as the enemy, and not ideologies altogether. Every form of religion, ideology, consumerism, idol worship etc can be approached completely dogmatically. Acknowledging the complexities in one thing and not another couldn't be more dogmatic.
This vid is brilliant. On the point of vegetarianism, it's hard to decide which side is rational, and which side is ingrained belief or dogma... I was a pretty strict vegan for a few years. I started that because I saw it as a more righteous path. I learned a lot from the experience but eventually the cognitive dissonance couldn't keep me there and I had to be honest with myself... I've come away with the realization that there is a third truth to most things: it's called moderation.
Not by apes - 'star dust.' Religious people are stupid in one way atheists aren't but we're stupid in so many other ways. All our problems are results of how we evolved - but thankfully we're still evolving and changing so can overcome that shit ^_^
You sure blather on and on and on. I'm pickin' up what you are puttin' down, though. In a lot of ways you articulate a fair amount of the thoughts that float through my brain when I'm stoned - minus the weird voices. You should try to widdle these down to under 2 minutes somehow as the attention span of us human types is fleeting, at best. Only the choir will ever take the time to watch all 8 minutes of your narcissistic intellectual orgy of awareness.
At the age of 10 years old I realised your observation about the morality of meat and GAVE UP EATING IT. So your observation that taste inevitably overrides morality is entirely your own subjective experience of weakened morality in the face of personal gain. Don't generalise.
I still say were in a super computer haha It sounds crazy but it seems like the universe is just one big mathematical equation just waiting to be cracked. Whenever we think something is chaotic we soon find patterns and order in it. Who's to say if there was a civilization a Million years more advanced then us what they could create ! Obviously this is all speculation but It seems obvious to me that this wasn't a random event.
Not if the aliens where cute. But maybe if they looked like floating hamburgers or french fries and smelled of bacon i think you might have a point. Deer, rabbit tastes very good, yet i know a lot of people that will not even try it. These people do eat beef chicken fish etc. so the only thing i can think of why they will not eat Bambie or Thumper is because they are cute and have formed other emotional bonds with the imagery. .
@masluxx Very good point, I've had deer once ( Its called Venison) but I wasn't aware it was deer. Once I knew that it was I couldn't eat it anymore lol
Stupidity is the wrong word. Humans are always inclined to follow their basic instincts: hunger and sex. Intelligence is nothing more then having a grasp of cause and effect. Even having a minor understanding gives that creature intelligence. Stupidity only exists in our "civilized" world. Humans eat meat because we are omnivores, not because we like the taste of meat (although it does taste goo). Though I think how we go about it is too brutal. Maybe we should go back to just hunting our food.
I totally agree. Comfort keeps us in our beliefs. In fact I struggle between being confident and agnostic on religious issues because when I honestly evaluate what I know, I realize I don't know shit. For all I know magical bunnies could run the world even though I think I know a little about science or reality.
@RuinSonic None of us know shit my friend. The guy in this video and every top scientist that has ever been. Its all just speculation. I guess none of us will really know until we take that final breathe and step on over to the other side !
Is it even possible to be that consistently skeptical? I mean I doubt things I haven't studied scientifically myself. But some things I have or have witnessed myself I cannot doubt seriously.
I'm just saying ultimately when we are talking beyond appearances and basic assumptions that we have to believe in as humans it's hard for me to be sure about almost anything.
The community aspect of religion is definitely true, I know first hand its still happening in my community to some degree. Although there are some open minded people and some very close minded people on the subject of just a person not conforming to their ideal theological ideas. I am atheist and I've noticed most people but not all are very ignorant towards the concept.
You make a good point at 3:05. Group pressure, the prospect to become an outsider among your family / friends /community - all this has to be considered when openly stating one's "truth". But in many secular European countries it's generally no longer problematic to state to be an atheist.
i'm not a vegetarian, but i'm starting to have an ethical dilemma about eating meat regularly for the fact that my pleasure is dependent on mass production, torture and killing...i've found it interesting that when i bring this up to others, people get really defensive like "are you vegetarian!?" so what if i was? what is it with people thinking if you don't eat meat , there is something wrong with you?!
I admit it, and I think calling all theist stupid are fucking idiots. Because most of us Atheist in the US were religious, so that implies that somehow our level of intellect changed, no we just became more educated and more aware, we are just as smart dumb as we've always been. I do dislike when my fellow skeptics defend people who are conned by saying that they are just desperate, which is true, but come on....there has to be stupid people falling for this shit.
I have really thought about the "meat eating" debate. I had it with my self without anyone ever bringing it up.
I think although there are many good arguments for not eating meat, I think the arguments for eating meat are better and I am often pissed off at people LIKE YOU solrosenberg who simply say "because it taste so good" I dont think that is a argument. I dont buy into the "its healthy" and I find it hypocritical because vegans feed off life, and kill bugs etc.
I personally try and not kill spiders/insects, etc.
Seems to me the only rational that vegans have is that killing cattle is "gory". Also they completely ignore the fact that the cows only exist because we bred and domesticated them. They also ignore that deer hunting prevents starvation among the population of the deer. Those are some of the reasons why I still eat meat.
Although I will admit one of the reasons and this is entirely personal and not a argument for meat eating, is that I do find eating meat very tasty. Anyway, yes Ghandi was racist, but you know what is ironic about that? Martin Luther King was sexist.
It bares remembering that we all possess a relatively similar set of human weaknesses - they merely manifest in different ways. We often have a blind spot regarding our own personal manifestations.
KINDA TRIPPED OUT by the fact that this whole video sort of touches on the Enlightenment movement in so many ways, when I am currently studying it in class.
Truth be told, we must constantly seek to improve our reasoning, and to continuously educate ourselves, so that we may better improve our capacity to create an environment that is more just than it was yesterday.
This is true regardless of our belief systems, and is fundamental to progress.
I'm "smart" about history and religion but put a math problem in front of me and I'll look like a monkey with a pen O.o.
I dislike the "us vs them" as I have good friends as Christians who are easy to get along with. But non-friends or assholes seem to bring it out...and sadly, they ain't just on youtube;however, I should try to improve my weaknesses. Once again, Great video
understanding humans might work for some people. but to those who are making LAWS AND REGULATIONS along with committing acts of WAR that do not understand human nature, they must be addressed in a different way. if we want to meet in peace than that is preferable, but it is those that do not meet in peace that drive the engine of "radical atheism".
I think that was a pretty good video..... your videos are usually pretty good but I started watching and then went to check my Email, mostly spam and people begging for more money as well as a couple Emails from people that I honestly don't know what they were trying to say.... oh well, if it's important I guess they'll hit me up again. Anyway, back to my point, do you think you could repeat that middle part again, like I said, I got side tracked and think I might have missed something.
its just that the enviornment we live in isn't too productive to our intellect. People are not religious because they are stupid, but its because they were born in and conditioned to be religious. and this comes back from a time where understanding wasnt that great, and people couldnt even affort to do science and shit, because they were fucking starving and dying on all sorts of crap. So we are not stupid, maybe some are mentaly retared due to abirth defect but in general we are quite smart
I totaly disagree on that sol, you totaly ignore the fact of devellopment of understanding, which came by over generations. we didnt start out smart with first world quallities of life and an ass full of time to philosophy. at the very first beginning we just had to survive and later came the thinking, and still not everyone has the time to learn and think and is reconditioned by its "stupid" enviornment. It's not that humans are stupid, its just that the ...(read next comment)
@Quiestre We have an ass full of time right now. Do we spend it on philosophy? No, we're watching YouTube-videos in our boxers while eating chicken wings :) We're all idiots compared to what we could have been.
@TheConcolor wow how simplifying and subjective. again we have not an ass full of time because we have to work to earn money and keep our living standards. secondly, if you havent been preconditioned to be curious about nature and things like philosphy then there is no way to get into it, of course you rather do nothing watch a show an so on because thats what you were born into. most people dont learn to learn or to think. we're just as bad as our system we live in
@TheConcolor lol your comment made my day!...To bad I'm missing the chicken wing part <.<...now I'm hungry...Where are those aliens when you need them!
Speaking of meat eating and eating tasty fucking aliens, have ya ever wondered what humans taste like?
I have.
Shit if you're on a flight with me that crasses into the Andes mountains ya better hope the peanuts last till the rescue team comes because buddy one missed meal and I'm breaking out the barbecue. FUCK STARVING!
Meat has better protein and Iron along with digestive elements to break it down compared to the vegetarian diet. The vegetarian alternatives do not do as well.
Humans in nature are omnivores. The best diets mostly have meat as part of the list.
I tried the vegetarian diet and I constantly forgot things and I used alternative protein and iron from nuts and yogurt. I wasn't feeling as well without meat.
So don't listen to those vegans who think that vegetarian is the only way to go.
Yes, we're all stupid but we are separated by those who know we're all stupid and those who don't. Those who don't are confident that they, themselves, are not stupid and, unfortunately, ending up becoming politicians and our leaders.
I think I hate this guy. He seems to think exactly like I do, but seems to be able to hold a thought... He's fairly good looking and can speak quite well in front of a camera.... Yup, I hate em. Sorry Sol. ;v)
Were you high or drunk? Because that was some energetic rant. If not, i love your style. If you were, that's insanely impressive for an ad hoc rant by an ape.
I am very, very aggravated by people who call themselves agnostics because I see it as dishonestly dodging a question of belief(not a fan of Socratics in this context). Recently I was told that it probably isn't just word games; some might feel that acknowledging their lack of certainty is more important to how they define themselves than how they act.
That was stupid of me. However, that stupidity is not an excuse for how I treated agnostics before. It is a thing to be corrected, not accepted.
True. But I highly doubt that agnostics act genuinely agnostic, in the same way I don't take sophists seriously.
Given how often agnostics are simply atheists unwilling to label themselves as such, I decided to make an effort to spare my vitriol until said people actually do/say something stupid because they claim to be agnostics.
Even though you probably wont see this, I' d just like to say your probably the channel I most love to see come up in my subscribe list, Keep it up! Your videos cleaver, funny and makes you think! Thanks
Well, there's more to eating meat than just taste. Nutrients are just one example. How we slaughter our animals and treat the eventual meat product is really terrible though. A hundred years from now people will be shaking their heads at how inhumanely we treated animals (that's saying that we are able to come up with a solution in a hundred years. I hope so). I agree with the sentiment though. We're all idiots and we would do well to remember it when we're being condescending jerks to theists.
I'm a meat eater and I hate to live in some sort of denial thinking that what I do isn't unethical or that there is a rational justification for the mass meat production wherein millions upon millions of sentient animals feel constant anguish and suffering for our mere convenience.
Damn unnecessary addictions we acquire throughout our lives -.-
@SolRosenberg84 I haven't quite finished it yet but goddamn is Portal 2 great. I don't know what you play on but I'm always looking for some people to play the coop campaign with.
@SolRosenberg84 I haven't quite finished it yet but goddamn is Portal 2 great. I don't know what you play on but I'm always looking for some people to play the coop campaign with.
Yea I've started to not really waste much time with religious arguments, and when I do I am polite about it. Because I know where they are coming from. I feel like I've said this many times, also. Besides, focusing on school work is better than spending an hour. Sometimes it is useless. I suck balls at german and learning language, but am very good at poetry. That's kinda weird. I also suck at sports. I am also an aggressive person when it comes to competition in video games. Iol taste vs morali
Yeah, I defiantly agree with you about you being an aggressive and competitive person in video games, especially in Halo. But it is fun to hear you rage at the game.
Damn, another first contact problem to ponder... do you serve red or white wine with the newly discovered intelligent life. Like establishing a common language wasn't hard enough nut to crack.
The essence of stupidity is simple: your arrogance blinds you.
Nature has a circular flow that keeps everything in balance. Everything is defined by its opposite, hence Yin-Yang, the natural balance of opposites. Examples are life and death, male and female, night and day, good and evil.
Taoist principles, or 3 Jewels are:
Compassion, Moderation, and Humility
The core belief is to live a life in harmony with nature, where all things are one.
@volound It's a philosophy, perhaps taoism and maybe buddhism being the only sciences that don't suppress scientific knowledge. Jesus, during his missing years, probably studied with buddhist monks. by the way, reincarnation was removed from the bible, so it used to be there =)
Your impersonations are hilarious.=D I recall you saying in the past you had a hard time conveying your thoughts into words (I think you used Carl Sagan as an example) but I think the opposite is true.. Have you ever given thought to writing a book in the future?
Great reminder. The main person on the planet that I can change a little, make a bit smarter, make slightly more self-reflective - is me. Interestingly, that might be the best way of marginally changing others around me.
Well said...as usual and funny! ;) Please, don't ever stop debating against religion no matter how tiresome and frustrating it gets! And yeah, we are always battling the animal within. I have always thought that intelligence is almost a disease....to the animal in us anyways. I think the more we accept truth based on facts and throw out superstition, the more we can become 1 with our intelligence.
@dav956able Top bat $h!t crazy creationists eye2eyeIIIV was up to 42 video responses to Sol last time I checked. He also keeps spamming me and many others with PMs letting us know about the incredible videos he's making that totally trash Sol's arguments with glorious creationist logic and bible quotes.
"the weaknesses that allow religion .."
Certainly. I'm human. I screw up all the time. What I don't do is deny it when presented with the truth, which is what religion does.
I may continue ( as in your eating meat analogy ) just because I want to, but I can tell the difference.
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This is so true. I don't think we can eliminate the Ego but it needs to at least be subdued. Seems like admitting we are stupid is a start.
xxdiogenescynicxx 2 months ago
One comment you made caught my attention. And the comment was this; "You should not simply believe things because everyone else believes it..." That is one of the most accurate statements that anyone can make. Unfortunately Most people on this earth do. Including people who believe in a creator and people who don't. You are included in that also unfortunately. I know there is a creator but I am not a creationist nor an evolutionist. I deal with facts not conjectures; And You?
hortont3 2 months ago
@hortont3
Indeed, we both believe irrational, insane things because we are human. Our minds are not made to be logical - we can be taught it, but most of the mind will never fully accept it. Hell, we probably believe some batshit insane ideas because everyone else does, and we've never questioned it. Without a reference level, there is no question to ask.
However, yes I still believe evolution is the best explanation we have of our current form. It fits the evidence best.
SolRosenberg84 2 months ago
@SolRosenberg84 That evidence you are talking about is as biased as creationist saying that the earth was created in 6 literal days. Even when someone shows them proof from the book they claim to believe in that it does NOT say that the earth was created in 6 literal days they usually do NOT budge from their bias. Is that how you are?
hortont3 2 months ago
@hortont3
>That evidence you are talking about is as biased as creationist saying that the earth was created in 6 literal days.
Ugh... You do understand that there is a difference between a single book, proclaimed as correct via circular logic, and a large body of evidence ranging from fossils to DNA pointing to shared ancestry - right?
>BUT YOU BOTH ACT THE SAME
No we don't. I'll admit I'm wrong if presented with evidence. The creationist will go "DERP" and ignore evidence.
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@SolRosenberg84 Actually the evidence shows that no living creature has ever come from non living matter. DNA has commonalities in every living creature because every living creature is from this earth which Science has proven we are made of the very elements found in the earth. So when they tell us we have common DNA it is more than a little Misleading.
hortont3 2 months ago
Hey Sol, is it more comfortable to believe the earth spins because your dogma told you?
TheFoxStevie 3 months ago
@TheFoxStevie
>Earth Spins
>Dogma
Not sure if attempting to set up a point,
or just going full retard.
In case of option B, equating religious dogmatic belief (believing in things which we would view as impossible in our day to day lives as valid with no evidence whatsoever) with believing the earth spins (which is validated by all observation, and can be confrimed from an individual perspective) is insane.
tl;dr - I believe because the evidence suggests it =/= I believe because I want to.
SolRosenberg84 3 months ago
@SolRosenberg84
no, Sol. I'm serious. Why do you think the earth spins? I don't think it spins and didn't your grade school teacher tell you it spun before you had a change to think for yourself about it? Why would you think it spun when you were a little boy, before you were told it spun?
TheFoxStevie 3 months ago
@TheFoxStevie
The fact that all of reality is monstrously counter-intuitive to human intuition does not mean it is automatically invalid.
Fucking germs are counter-intuitive. If someone walked up to people before we knew of thier existence, and explained that disease was caused by creatures too small to be viewed, you'd have been locked up or killed. Bacteria would still exist though.
Intuition means nothing. Evidence means everything, and even that doesn't always work.
SolRosenberg84 2 months ago
@SolRosenberg84 What I'm trying to tell you Sol is that we have been lied to by the educational establishments concerning the nature of the universe.
Here, if you have a couple minutes visit my website where I propose that the public has been hypnotized into accepting a scientific concept that is inversely opposed to the actual state of affairs...best wishes (god)
I will pm you the link now....
TheFoxStevie 2 months ago
@TheFoxStevie
Ahh, so you're a tinfoil-hatted nutter - with the requisite batshit insane website and everything. It all makes perfect sense now.
One question, Ace. How does technology (the computer your posting from, for instance) work if true reality is the exact opposite of what peer-reviewed science shows? Fairy dust? Unicorn blood?
I imagine your reply would be wonderfully entertaining, if very, very sad.
bowlsallbroken 2 months ago
@SolRosenberg84 I enjoyed your points about dogma. It's hardly exclusive to religion. I break from the New Atheist movement which holds "I hate religion" up like some sort of ignorant battle cry. It's telling that many only consider what we call "religion" as the enemy, and not ideologies altogether. Every form of religion, ideology, consumerism, idol worship etc can be approached completely dogmatically. Acknowledging the complexities in one thing and not another couldn't be more dogmatic.
RipTheSystem33 4 months ago
I'm not sure what you do for a living but if you are not in acting you should think about it
TheRenekruse 4 months ago
Hey, brother, easy with that spoon....
bobsmeerfak 4 months ago
This vid is brilliant. On the point of vegetarianism, it's hard to decide which side is rational, and which side is ingrained belief or dogma... I was a pretty strict vegan for a few years. I started that because I saw it as a more righteous path. I learned a lot from the experience but eventually the cognitive dissonance couldn't keep me there and I had to be honest with myself... I've come away with the realization that there is a third truth to most things: it's called moderation.
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Not by apes - 'star dust.' Religious people are stupid in one way atheists aren't but we're stupid in so many other ways. All our problems are results of how we evolved - but thankfully we're still evolving and changing so can overcome that shit ^_^
unassumption 6 months ago
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It's worse when these emotions influence our political views... and that happens even more.
that said any argument based empathy is BS ;P *goes out and kills some people*
unassumption 6 months ago
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CircusOfBedlam 7 months ago
great vid
JRTET21 7 months ago
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Artifactorfiction 8 months ago
Ahh. Another apostate Jew. Or one who's parent(s) are apostate. Or both! Good to meet you. :-D
PDelta41 8 months ago
nice basement.
naturesavatar 8 months ago
Sol you are so damn attractive...FML
PlanckEpoch 8 months ago
You sure blather on and on and on. I'm pickin' up what you are puttin' down, though. In a lot of ways you articulate a fair amount of the thoughts that float through my brain when I'm stoned - minus the weird voices. You should try to widdle these down to under 2 minutes somehow as the attention span of us human types is fleeting, at best. Only the choir will ever take the time to watch all 8 minutes of your narcissistic intellectual orgy of awareness.
I think you take yourself too seriously.
robbergable 8 months ago
Futurama did the "Tasty Alien Babies" thing..
In the episode: "The Problem with Popplers"
MarxIzalias 8 months ago
Bang on. Thank you.
RichARich 8 months ago
At the age of 10 years old I realised your observation about the morality of meat and GAVE UP EATING IT. So your observation that taste inevitably overrides morality is entirely your own subjective experience of weakened morality in the face of personal gain. Don't generalise.
BoundlessEyes 9 months ago
So are you a standup comedian, and if not, why?
tempo3rd 9 months ago
I still say were in a super computer haha It sounds crazy but it seems like the universe is just one big mathematical equation just waiting to be cracked. Whenever we think something is chaotic we soon find patterns and order in it. Who's to say if there was a civilization a Million years more advanced then us what they could create ! Obviously this is all speculation but It seems obvious to me that this wasn't a random event.
JG129 9 months ago
The real problems are:
1.) Money
2.) Culture
GeorgeTVP 9 months ago
We humans are retarded but capable apes XD.
HybridD91 9 months ago
Revisit weed they might be legalizing it in less then 90 days in Ontario
fukedurmom 10 months ago
Not if the aliens where cute. But maybe if they looked like floating hamburgers or french fries and smelled of bacon i think you might have a point. Deer, rabbit tastes very good, yet i know a lot of people that will not even try it. These people do eat beef chicken fish etc. so the only thing i can think of why they will not eat Bambie or Thumper is because they are cute and have formed other emotional bonds with the imagery. .
masluxx 10 months ago
@masluxx Very good point, I've had deer once ( Its called Venison) but I wasn't aware it was deer. Once I knew that it was I couldn't eat it anymore lol
JG129 9 months ago
Stupidity is the wrong word. Humans are always inclined to follow their basic instincts: hunger and sex. Intelligence is nothing more then having a grasp of cause and effect. Even having a minor understanding gives that creature intelligence. Stupidity only exists in our "civilized" world. Humans eat meat because we are omnivores, not because we like the taste of meat (although it does taste goo). Though I think how we go about it is too brutal. Maybe we should go back to just hunting our food.
danieljliversLXXXIX 10 months ago
I totally agree. Comfort keeps us in our beliefs. In fact I struggle between being confident and agnostic on religious issues because when I honestly evaluate what I know, I realize I don't know shit. For all I know magical bunnies could run the world even though I think I know a little about science or reality.
RuinSonic 10 months ago
@RuinSonic None of us know shit my friend. The guy in this video and every top scientist that has ever been. Its all just speculation. I guess none of us will really know until we take that final breathe and step on over to the other side !
JG129 9 months ago
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@JG129 "Its all just speculation."
Is it even possible to be that consistently skeptical? I mean I doubt things I haven't studied scientifically myself. But some things I have or have witnessed myself I cannot doubt seriously.
I'm just saying ultimately when we are talking beyond appearances and basic assumptions that we have to believe in as humans it's hard for me to be sure about almost anything.
RuinSonic 9 months ago
The community aspect of religion is definitely true, I know first hand its still happening in my community to some degree. Although there are some open minded people and some very close minded people on the subject of just a person not conforming to their ideal theological ideas. I am atheist and I've noticed most people but not all are very ignorant towards the concept.
Hammerofthegods86 10 months ago
You have a good speaking voice.
nonameisacat 10 months ago
You make a good point at 3:05. Group pressure, the prospect to become an outsider among your family / friends /community - all this has to be considered when openly stating one's "truth". But in many secular European countries it's generally no longer problematic to state to be an atheist.
eltamin1966 10 months ago
i'm not a vegetarian, but i'm starting to have an ethical dilemma about eating meat regularly for the fact that my pleasure is dependent on mass production, torture and killing...i've found it interesting that when i bring this up to others, people get really defensive like "are you vegetarian!?" so what if i was? what is it with people thinking if you don't eat meat , there is something wrong with you?!
youricecream 10 months ago
I admit it, and I think calling all theist stupid are fucking idiots. Because most of us Atheist in the US were religious, so that implies that somehow our level of intellect changed, no we just became more educated and more aware, we are just as smart dumb as we've always been. I do dislike when my fellow skeptics defend people who are conned by saying that they are just desperate, which is true, but come on....there has to be stupid people falling for this shit.
jay666KJ 10 months ago
@jay666KJ
I have really thought about the "meat eating" debate. I had it with my self without anyone ever bringing it up.
I think although there are many good arguments for not eating meat, I think the arguments for eating meat are better and I am often pissed off at people LIKE YOU solrosenberg who simply say "because it taste so good" I dont think that is a argument. I dont buy into the "its healthy" and I find it hypocritical because vegans feed off life, and kill bugs etc.
jay666KJ 10 months ago
@jay666KJ
I personally try and not kill spiders/insects, etc.
Seems to me the only rational that vegans have is that killing cattle is "gory". Also they completely ignore the fact that the cows only exist because we bred and domesticated them. They also ignore that deer hunting prevents starvation among the population of the deer. Those are some of the reasons why I still eat meat.
jay666KJ 10 months ago
@jay666KJ
Although I will admit one of the reasons and this is entirely personal and not a argument for meat eating, is that I do find eating meat very tasty. Anyway, yes Ghandi was racist, but you know what is ironic about that? Martin Luther King was sexist.
jay666KJ 10 months ago
Excellent points, all around.
It bares remembering that we all possess a relatively similar set of human weaknesses - they merely manifest in different ways. We often have a blind spot regarding our own personal manifestations.
bowlsallbroken 10 months ago
I'M GOING TO EAT YOU!!!! BRAINS!!!!!!!LMAO
Thumbs up!!!
I agree and I am A Agnostic/Atheist/Skeptic/Freethinker ...for you label people :)
chucka59 10 months ago
7:33 ....ZOMBIEEEEEE! lol
Gettaization 10 months ago
KINDA TRIPPED OUT by the fact that this whole video sort of touches on the Enlightenment movement in so many ways, when I am currently studying it in class.
Truth be told, we must constantly seek to improve our reasoning, and to continuously educate ourselves, so that we may better improve our capacity to create an environment that is more just than it was yesterday.
This is true regardless of our belief systems, and is fundamental to progress.
IamMrAwesome 10 months ago
Great Video! Great Exit!
I out rightly agree about everything.
I'm "smart" about history and religion but put a math problem in front of me and I'll look like a monkey with a pen O.o.
I dislike the "us vs them" as I have good friends as Christians who are easy to get along with. But non-friends or assholes seem to bring it out...and sadly, they ain't just on youtube;however, I should try to improve my weaknesses. Once again, Great video
TheFightingRebel 10 months ago
@ 0.55 "ad hoc by apes" that's a fucken' tee shirt
SaintCog 10 months ago
understanding humans might work for some people. but to those who are making LAWS AND REGULATIONS along with committing acts of WAR that do not understand human nature, they must be addressed in a different way. if we want to meet in peace than that is preferable, but it is those that do not meet in peace that drive the engine of "radical atheism".
greycloud24 10 months ago
good video. I personally hate it when I see the 'us vs them' mentality in atheist.
AtheistKharm 10 months ago
I think that was a pretty good video..... your videos are usually pretty good but I started watching and then went to check my Email, mostly spam and people begging for more money as well as a couple Emails from people that I honestly don't know what they were trying to say.... oh well, if it's important I guess they'll hit me up again. Anyway, back to my point, do you think you could repeat that middle part again, like I said, I got side tracked and think I might have missed something.
Thanks
FeeItheIove 10 months ago
This video is brilliant.
TheAxlSnaks 10 months ago
There's stupid... and then there's the people who leave comments on Katy Perry videos.
Nashy119 10 months ago
I'm 100% with you on the bacon/beef issue. Thankfully pigs and cows aren't as cute as cats and dogs!
TheLivingDinosaur 10 months ago
pretty good high rant... I should try to do one.
KronosDeret 10 months ago
ad hoc .... by apes LoL ...
SonOfTerra92 10 months ago
its just that the enviornment we live in isn't too productive to our intellect. People are not religious because they are stupid, but its because they were born in and conditioned to be religious. and this comes back from a time where understanding wasnt that great, and people couldnt even affort to do science and shit, because they were fucking starving and dying on all sorts of crap. So we are not stupid, maybe some are mentaly retared due to abirth defect but in general we are quite smart
Quiestre 10 months ago
I totaly disagree on that sol, you totaly ignore the fact of devellopment of understanding, which came by over generations. we didnt start out smart with first world quallities of life and an ass full of time to philosophy. at the very first beginning we just had to survive and later came the thinking, and still not everyone has the time to learn and think and is reconditioned by its "stupid" enviornment. It's not that humans are stupid, its just that the ...(read next comment)
Quiestre 10 months ago
@Quiestre We have an ass full of time right now. Do we spend it on philosophy? No, we're watching YouTube-videos in our boxers while eating chicken wings :) We're all idiots compared to what we could have been.
TheConcolor 10 months ago
@TheConcolor wow how simplifying and subjective. again we have not an ass full of time because we have to work to earn money and keep our living standards. secondly, if you havent been preconditioned to be curious about nature and things like philosphy then there is no way to get into it, of course you rather do nothing watch a show an so on because thats what you were born into. most people dont learn to learn or to think. we're just as bad as our system we live in
Quiestre 10 months ago
@TheConcolor lol your comment made my day!...To bad I'm missing the chicken wing part <.<...now I'm hungry...Where are those aliens when you need them!
TheFightingRebel 10 months ago
Speaking of meat eating and eating tasty fucking aliens, have ya ever wondered what humans taste like?
I have.
Shit if you're on a flight with me that crasses into the Andes mountains ya better hope the peanuts last till the rescue team comes because buddy one missed meal and I'm breaking out the barbecue. FUCK STARVING!
HulkSmashPunyHumans 10 months ago
Dude, great video. probably one of the best i've seen around here.
our greatest stupidity is not realizing our stupidity.
I see the same stupidity around atheist youtubers as I see around theist youtubers, because we're all human.
The only stupidity i dont' see, and don't tell me it's THERE or it EXISTS, is MY OWN stupidity. lol. I'll pass on that :-)
j/k. i know i'm biased and stupid in a lot of ways.
cheers.
Darw1n1st 10 months ago
Meat has better protein and Iron along with digestive elements to break it down compared to the vegetarian diet. The vegetarian alternatives do not do as well.
Humans in nature are omnivores. The best diets mostly have meat as part of the list.
I tried the vegetarian diet and I constantly forgot things and I used alternative protein and iron from nuts and yogurt. I wasn't feeling as well without meat.
So don't listen to those vegans who think that vegetarian is the only way to go.
RyunSharp 10 months ago
Yes, we're all stupid but we are separated by those who know we're all stupid and those who don't. Those who don't are confident that they, themselves, are not stupid and, unfortunately, ending up becoming politicians and our leaders.
1140Cecile 10 months ago
I think I hate this guy. He seems to think exactly like I do, but seems to be able to hold a thought... He's fairly good looking and can speak quite well in front of a camera.... Yup, I hate em. Sorry Sol. ;v)
skywize 10 months ago
I think I decided 60 seconds in this was going to get a spot on my favorites. Entertained all the way to your awkward exit. Bravo.
LJonYT 10 months ago
Is this guy retarded ??? what a loser
h3mmod1990 10 months ago
dont worry, lab grown meat will make slaughtering animals obsolete within your lifetime;
also: lab grown human meat;
get a cell from your friends skin and have custom made cloned human meat of your best buddies (find out what they taste like!)
eyhexs 10 months ago
I know people who don't eat meat because they just don't like it. And I personally can't stand most vegetarian sources of protein, so I eat meat.
joegt123 10 months ago
i've thought about the same things you've said but you put some new twist in there..Awesome vid man! good brain food!!!
mytv80 10 months ago
yeah, but the religious people are just stupider than everyone else.
kiddhitta 10 months ago
IF we find out humans taste good... do you think our grocery stores would soon stock new kinds of meat ? >:)
Takiado 10 months ago
I have a relatively high IQ and I am constantly reminded of how stupid and ineffectual I am in a large variety of ways
macnutz 10 months ago
@macnutz The fact that you recognize being reminded may be why you have a high IQ in the first place: )
deepashtray 10 months ago
Lmao! When you got cut off at the end of the video, I nearly died. That was great.
TomConger 10 months ago
Were you high or drunk? Because that was some energetic rant. If not, i love your style. If you were, that's insanely impressive for an ad hoc rant by an ape.
qtzlctl2012 10 months ago
yey pseudo speciation
codemonkeyslikeme 10 months ago
happy stoner aliens! hopefully there out there
MonkayMan 10 months ago
Been to long! I dont care if you argue the same points over and over, I just love your vids.
This might sound a bit wierd, but I feel smarter everytime I watch you.
Gammal 10 months ago 7
I just discovered your channel. Our channel topics have a lot in common, so I will be enjoying your points of view.
anubis2814 10 months ago
I think eating meat played a important part of development of the human brain.
melowar78 10 months ago
you should talk about politics
bellyzbad 10 months ago
good video
wizkid2000 10 months ago
I am very, very aggravated by people who call themselves agnostics because I see it as dishonestly dodging a question of belief(not a fan of Socratics in this context). Recently I was told that it probably isn't just word games; some might feel that acknowledging their lack of certainty is more important to how they define themselves than how they act.
That was stupid of me. However, that stupidity is not an excuse for how I treated agnostics before. It is a thing to be corrected, not accepted.
AndrewTheEternal 10 months ago
@AndrewTheEternal
but that is a stupid irrational position.
wizkid2000 10 months ago
@wizkid2000
Please clarify which bit is the irrational position, it's a bit unclear.
AndrewTheEternal 10 months ago
@AndrewTheEternal
Claiming that agnosticism is not a valid position is logical.
wizkid2000 10 months ago
@wizkid2000
True. But I highly doubt that agnostics act genuinely agnostic, in the same way I don't take sophists seriously.
Given how often agnostics are simply atheists unwilling to label themselves as such, I decided to make an effort to spare my vitriol until said people actually do/say something stupid because they claim to be agnostics.
AndrewTheEternal 10 months ago
Even though you probably wont see this, I' d just like to say your probably the channel I most love to see come up in my subscribe list, Keep it up! Your videos cleaver, funny and makes you think! Thanks
Irishkeyblade 10 months ago
Well, there's more to eating meat than just taste. Nutrients are just one example. How we slaughter our animals and treat the eventual meat product is really terrible though. A hundred years from now people will be shaking their heads at how inhumanely we treated animals (that's saying that we are able to come up with a solution in a hundred years. I hope so). I agree with the sentiment though. We're all idiots and we would do well to remember it when we're being condescending jerks to theists.
AmyInChains161 10 months ago
There's nothing wrong with eating meat.
--an amoralist vegan
meritocratic1337 10 months ago
I'm a meat eater and I hate to live in some sort of denial thinking that what I do isn't unethical or that there is a rational justification for the mass meat production wherein millions upon millions of sentient animals feel constant anguish and suffering for our mere convenience.
Damn unnecessary addictions we acquire throughout our lives -.-
Lycanthr0py 10 months ago
LOL, epic exit, good day x)
There are actually PLENTY of vegetarian foods that taste like meat
JollSSteR 10 months ago
Best exit evarh
Swamoez0rs 10 months ago
That exit was awesome :)
bary1234 10 months ago
This was a video that needed to be made. Thank you.
theguruofreason 10 months ago
" Have a good day ? " That IS a good exit, haha.
sctirish1 10 months ago
Hey SolRosen, what games do you like playing?
mdrndrum 10 months ago
@mdrndrum
At the moment I'm playing Minecraft, Crysis 2, and Starcraft 2.
I'm dying waiting for Portal 2 to come out.
SolRosenberg84 10 months ago 6
@SolRosenberg84 Sounds exactly like me XD.
ccofmight 10 months ago
@SolRosenberg84 I haven't quite finished it yet but goddamn is Portal 2 great. I don't know what you play on but I'm always looking for some people to play the coop campaign with.
DarkoBeej 10 months ago
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@SolRosenberg84 I haven't quite finished it yet but goddamn is Portal 2 great. I don't know what you play on but I'm always looking for some people to play the coop campaign with.
DarkoBeej 10 months ago
@ your ending: I c wut u did thar.
Aresftfun 10 months ago
Yea I've started to not really waste much time with religious arguments, and when I do I am polite about it. Because I know where they are coming from. I feel like I've said this many times, also. Besides, focusing on school work is better than spending an hour. Sometimes it is useless. I suck balls at german and learning language, but am very good at poetry. That's kinda weird. I also suck at sports. I am also an aggressive person when it comes to competition in video games. Iol taste vs morali
Aresftfun 10 months ago
@Aresftfun
Yeah, I defiantly agree with you about you being an aggressive and competitive person in video games, especially in Halo. But it is fun to hear you rage at the game.
Darthobnoxious2 10 months ago
@Darthobnoxious2 ...how?
Aresftfun 10 months ago
i love your ramblings, and the vegan/meat part was spot on, i feel the same way. bravo good sir
SkeptikSnarf 10 months ago
Heyafolks it's solrosenberg84 here, uuh.... I'm so alone. :'(
EllyMcCormack 10 months ago
@EllyMcCormack So I herd u liek douchebaggery.
Aresftfun 10 months ago
There are good reasons not to eat meat, but there are no good moral reasons.
That's the difference.
Proletariat12 10 months ago
Awesome video, good points, and a veritable buffet of ingenious quotes!
TheShortStory 10 months ago
Yeah, we are just glorified apes.
bamboo4tameshigiri 10 months ago
Damn, another first contact problem to ponder... do you serve red or white wine with the newly discovered intelligent life. Like establishing a common language wasn't hard enough nut to crack.
TETSUno1 10 months ago
lol
GalinorGustave 10 months ago
The eating god tasting aliens part made my afternoon. Great video as always.
SusejFTW 10 months ago
Brilliant! I laughed my ass off.
KasparHauser5 10 months ago
I used to be like you, but then every time I was like "mmm, meat!" i said to myself "An innocent thing's corpse is what I'm eating..."
I'm not a vegetarian yet, but I'm getting there. If you can keep liking meat, go for it. If you want to stop, just remind yourself what you're doing.
BornInAsphodelMeadow 10 months ago
The essence of stupidity is simple: your arrogance blinds you.
Nature has a circular flow that keeps everything in balance. Everything is defined by its opposite, hence Yin-Yang, the natural balance of opposites. Examples are life and death, male and female, night and day, good and evil.
Taoist principles, or 3 Jewels are:
Compassion, Moderation, and Humility
The core belief is to live a life in harmony with nature, where all things are one.
The jewel of humility is to balance stupidity.
RaptorWizard 10 months ago
@RaptorWizard what a load of pseudo-scientific wishy washy woo woo.
volound 10 months ago
@volound It's a philosophy, perhaps taoism and maybe buddhism being the only sciences that don't suppress scientific knowledge. Jesus, during his missing years, probably studied with buddhist monks. by the way, reincarnation was removed from the bible, so it used to be there =)
RaptorWizard 10 months ago
@volound i meant to say religion, not science. by the way, u wanna now how god became god?... EVOLUTION!!!
u wanna know how god aka the aliens made humans...
EVOLUTION!!!
RaptorWizard 10 months ago
@RaptorWizard ಠ_ಠ
volound 10 months ago
Your impersonations are hilarious.=D I recall you saying in the past you had a hard time conveying your thoughts into words (I think you used Carl Sagan as an example) but I think the opposite is true.. Have you ever given thought to writing a book in the future?
NRGFORCE 10 months ago
I can't like and favourite this hard enough.
BrianTheGoldfish 10 months ago
awesome
TheJuliusJT 10 months ago
Great reminder. The main person on the planet that I can change a little, make a bit smarter, make slightly more self-reflective - is me. Interestingly, that might be the best way of marginally changing others around me.
AncientAtheist 10 months ago 14
@AncientAtheist Wow you come up everywhere!
Aresftfun 10 months ago
@Aresftfun Bet you can't find me at the AncientAtheist channel. ;-)
AncientAtheist 10 months ago
Well said...as usual and funny! ;) Please, don't ever stop debating against religion no matter how tiresome and frustrating it gets! And yeah, we are always battling the animal within. I have always thought that intelligence is almost a disease....to the animal in us anyways. I think the more we accept truth based on facts and throw out superstition, the more we can become 1 with our intelligence.
julzabro 10 months ago
Countdown the minutes until that clown who stalks you makes another terrible video about you
lukeism2 10 months ago 8
@lukeism2
He's still doing that?
I swear that guy wants to rape me.
SolRosenberg84 10 months ago 21
@SolRosenberg84
btw is that young Japanese creationist guy still hounding you?
I wrote to him several times in great detail why his beliefs are horribly wrong, be he seemed totally impervious to any of it..
FluidDeconstructor 10 months ago
@lukeism2 huh? whats this about?
i want to know
dav956able 10 months ago
@dav956able Top bat $h!t crazy creationists eye2eyeIIIV was up to 42 video responses to Sol last time I checked. He also keeps spamming me and many others with PMs letting us know about the incredible videos he's making that totally trash Sol's arguments with glorious creationist logic and bible quotes.
sfg911 10 months ago
Has Eye2Eye made a response to this yet? It's been a few minutes already.
sfg911 10 months ago
"Autorun's got some bugs in it." Lolllllz.
DiwataMan 10 months ago