It is from one of his first recorded publications called "On Buddhism". It comes as a video and audio tape set (probably CD as well). It is available as MP3. If you haven't heard it I can't recommend it enough. I've listened to it what seems like 100+ times. Always something new is discovered. He also has a similar talk called "On Tibet" which is very nice. I can give you links to download if you want.
Hold on a minute - I thought that Jesus already took on all of those nasty burdens and said be cool, go forth, forget the self, do the right thing, remember my name, and be free. Maybe he didn't.
He always says: May I that means: it is just wishful thinking. He has not been able to do what he would like to do, nor will he be able in the future. But it is always nice to have some unreachable ideal in front of the mind like a carrot.
These verses were composed by the Great Geshe Langri Tangpa who is widely recognized as having achieved the attitude expressed in this composition.
I am not sure in what part of his life these verses were composed. One can assume if it was before achieving this attitude, the verses are his own wish. If it was after then he was writing for his students who have yet to aspire for such a lofty attitude.
Before one can undertake this radical attitude one must first have the wish to do so.
if this is understood through ego this is dangerous. much studying of the self is needed. if one sees the ego what the video is saying will just happen. you dont have to agree and say yes this is the way that is the ego
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With due respect, I don't have any disagreement with the content of this video clip. But, I do wanted to add that since this is a public domain there is great danger that it might be taken out of context and some might even find it rediculous in reference to day to day experiences. May be thats why there was no buddhist missionaries in the past. practice of these verses needs a good understanding and a firm philosophical foundation in order to realise the full potential of its practice, I think.
Yes, it is reasonably esoteric and not to be taken lightly. I would recommend one concentrate deeply and sincerely on these verses along with further study of the Buddha Dharma preferably with a skilled practitioner.
The text presents itself as a training for the mind. Perhaps making distinctions occasionally, distinctions which cause you to see yourself as less important than others, might sometimes be a good form of mind-training for some people.
one of the most important goals in shamanism is to lose self importance. saying hey, they can't be better than me! i want to at least be equal! is self serving and self defeating. it is short sighted and of no real use. having no self importance is of tremendous value.... just think about it. one can never become proud or vain, nor can one feel insecure or hurt, because when you lose self importance you grow out of these things.
Is this from one of Robert Thurman's podcasts?
adrianh50 1 month ago
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It is from one of his first recorded publications called "On Buddhism". It comes as a video and audio tape set (probably CD as well). It is available as MP3. If you haven't heard it I can't recommend it enough. I've listened to it what seems like 100+ times. Always something new is discovered. He also has a similar talk called "On Tibet" which is very nice. I can give you links to download if you want.
Saattya 1 month ago
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He spends a lot of time discussing the 8-Verses in terms of Sangha. One of my favorite parts of the talk. What I posted here is a tiny excerpt.
Saattya 1 month ago
Hold on a minute - I thought that Jesus already took on all of those nasty burdens and said be cool, go forth, forget the self, do the right thing, remember my name, and be free. Maybe he didn't.
bamboosa 6 months ago
crikey lets not make it all too complicated.. krishnamurti summed it up beautifully when he said "he didnt MIND what happened"
TheGregH67 9 months ago
He always says: May I that means: it is just wishful thinking. He has not been able to do what he would like to do, nor will he be able in the future. But it is always nice to have some unreachable ideal in front of the mind like a carrot.
ruzickaw 2 years ago
These verses were composed by the Great Geshe Langri Tangpa who is widely recognized as having achieved the attitude expressed in this composition.
I am not sure in what part of his life these verses were composed. One can assume if it was before achieving this attitude, the verses are his own wish. If it was after then he was writing for his students who have yet to aspire for such a lofty attitude.
Before one can undertake this radical attitude one must first have the wish to do so.
kusali11 2 years ago
@kusali11 also to add once this attitude is cultivated it must be maintained.
kusali11 1 year ago
if this is understood through ego this is dangerous. much studying of the self is needed. if one sees the ego what the video is saying will just happen. you dont have to agree and say yes this is the way that is the ego
FREETHINKER29 2 years ago
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sageunr 2 years ago
With due respect, I don't have any disagreement with the content of this video clip. But, I do wanted to add that since this is a public domain there is great danger that it might be taken out of context and some might even find it rediculous in reference to day to day experiences. May be thats why there was no buddhist missionaries in the past. practice of these verses needs a good understanding and a firm philosophical foundation in order to realise the full potential of its practice, I think.
2000k11 3 years ago 3
Yes, it is reasonably esoteric and not to be taken lightly. I would recommend one concentrate deeply and sincerely on these verses along with further study of the Buddha Dharma preferably with a skilled practitioner.
sridharma108 2 years ago
Why should i consider others better or more precious than me? Are we not all equal?
Thinking about "better or worse" you are still making distinctions.
ruzickaw 3 years ago
To let go of the ego
guitarobsessed85 3 years ago
The text presents itself as a training for the mind. Perhaps making distinctions occasionally, distinctions which cause you to see yourself as less important than others, might sometimes be a good form of mind-training for some people.
ProsecuteCheneyEtAl 2 years ago
dont think about others, think about yourself. A lot of work to do!
ruzickaw 2 years ago
Yes, it's a training practice to reduce arrogance, pride and inflated ego; to develop humility and compassion.
It is part of the boat simile, once one has reached the other shore one leaves the boat.
sridharma108 2 years ago 2
one of the most important goals in shamanism is to lose self importance. saying hey, they can't be better than me! i want to at least be equal! is self serving and self defeating. it is short sighted and of no real use. having no self importance is of tremendous value.... just think about it. one can never become proud or vain, nor can one feel insecure or hurt, because when you lose self importance you grow out of these things.
srtliam 2 years ago
good questions.
We are all equal yes this is true according to the literature and masters in this tradition, equal in that we all want to be happy and not suffer.
To view others as first in YOUR OWN MIND is a device to cultivate YOUR OWN MIND.
Understand also that this was actually a secret teaching taught to only the brightest so there is great depth in it's understanding and application.
Finally, nothing wrong in making distinctions according to Buddha or any of the subsequent masters.
kusali11 2 years ago
amen.
prhughes0 4 years ago
Thank you for posting this!!
delahaze3 4 years ago