On Iraq—Obama Flip-Flops Twice The Same Day

[stratelite]

Halliburton must have had a talk with Obama about their donations to his campaign...

[johnsreport]

Trying to decide if Obama is merely a liar, or a narcissist. But either way, he is very strange.

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[mhunt05]

I wanna know how many of you lib's out there said " give Bush a chance! " He made a promise by saying " I will end the war on Iraq by 2009! " and now he is going against that promise! Rome is burning and your to blame!

[44Grimmace]

oh, it's a "do as i say" not a "do as i did" kinda thing. it's ok for THEM to bash bash bash, but we have to give more chances.

[imalaylow]

ohhh yeah you first day in office you'll do something more important like build a basketball court in the hous with the american dollar... how the fucc does he have time for hoops when it's time to work??

[poopstreek]

If you want to have a discussion, it was the liberal policies of Clinton and Bush that pushed banks to make loans to low income people, especially minorities. The shadow markets gambled, and insured these loans. The Democrats and Republicans, and the mass media, are owned by the same people. I really want people to wake up to this and realize that pointing the finger does not just add to the problem, it is the problem. How is it that most Americans did not want the bailout, and both parties did?

[a1mint]

The point is that there should be a real motivation and effort to end the war in Iraq. THAT is the point.

You Faux Noisers are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find what you think is dirt.

If you're do sensitive to "dirt" you should look at the Republicans - THERE is dirt, TONS of it! Fucking hypocrites!

[poopstreek]

Both parties are selling this country down the river.

[a1mint]

OH rrreeeaaahheeaallyyy... how is that?

Deregulation is the root cause of the crisis. Rethuglicans are most at fault and that is that.

[poopstreek]

Obama voted against investigation Fanny and Freddy in 05. Good decision? No. Look at Obama's top contributors. He is "buddy-buddy" with all the people Clinton, Bush, Bush II, were in with. You are stuck in the hamster wheel. Look at where the money comes from, too many big banks, and corporations, give to BOTH SIDES. Think about it. Who is really in control here? Also, I am not a Republican, so your play on the word does not... work. The Republicrats (nice huh?)are to blame here. Anyone can see.

[a1mint]

You're still regurgitating McLiar's distortion campaign filth I see.

The contributions were actual equal between the two parties, just not distributed the same, and more towards Obama. And so what? It's a contribution, a gift. That doesn't imply Obama is "in bed" with them. Good grief no.

And McSame is Bush's buddy any day.

But why the negativity. Right now Obama is the best hope - he really wishes to do his best for all - he really really does. Give him a chance.

[poopstreek]

The fact that you think I am regurgitating McCain talking points is pretty bad. And yes, money is power. The only way someone can even get into the primaries for the Dems or Reps, the have to be "in bed" with a lot of rich people. I don't believe Obama is the best hope at all. I think he is a manufactured politician, just like the rest, the "hope" and "change" stuff, is just a charade. I want him to do well, because I love this country, but I don't think he ever should have been elected.

[a1mint]

I think you are wrong. The vast majority thinks you're wrong. I think he will do his genuine best.

[TheRealCorsican]

Umm, yeah; how's that working out so far? The "vast majority" are uninformed sheep. If McCain had gotten in and done all the egregious things Osama has done, the major media would be screaming for blood. And like the bleating sheep they are, the "vast majority" would have fallen right into step with them.

[a1mint]

McCane would have been a hopeless pile of useless crap, more of the same. Thank goodness people weren't dumb enough to choose McSame + Parrot Palin. And oh, my, god, what the crap was that, Palin, good bloody grief. It still hurts thinking about whatever the hell that was.

[mauicletus]

@a1mint oh yeah god forbid an average person that isn't a Ivy league lawyer be president.

[freakybeast112]

I think Obama's the man... We some fuckin change mothafuckas!! CHANGE!

[Masteroftrancegirl]

You said we need change? Well Obama's sure good at changing his stance on issues (within the same day I might add).

[freakybeast112]

I'm just kidding I don't really even care

[nimitz1983]

What does it say when over half of the people who support Obama constantly curse and swear in their comments.I think it goes to show you his base of voter are uneducated rude and just plain ignorant.Wake up America his words are just that words.Mark my words there won't be any change,we will just lose more civil liberities to a point where we wont be a democracy any more.Also don't pin me down as a Bush loyalist cause he and his staff are just as bad.

[podman27]

AS far as his voters go, im not racist but the fact that 97 percent of blacks voted for him realy ticks me off. people dont even know his belifes and they just vote for him.

civil liberties like gun rights? i herd hese agains gun rights.

an armed man is a citisen, and unarmed man is a subject

[tonytron1]

hell yeah! vote Mccain

lets kill us some more foreigners

and American soldiers in the process! forget

ALL THE OTHER FLEDGLING NATIONS OF THE WORLD

forget the genocides in Africa.

unless they strike oil!!

then well call it Destiny!

phuck john mccain

u rich SOB's!!!!!!!

[Chris123234]

You mean he wants to take in as much information before making a definite decision that could have major consequences???!!?!

[residualwealth]

LOL Yeah it's not like McCain who has been a lifetime deregulator & recently wanted a moratorium on regulation is now the champion on regulating the financial markets. McCain has said that he does NOT care what the majority of Americans want. If Obama ever said that it'd be all over the news cycle.

Search for McCain Lost in Space to hear him for yourself.

[danielvg85]

senator obama flip flop almost on every issue, drilling offshore, irakq, civil rights, spying in americans, even flip flopp on his run for president. in 2004 when asked he say he was just not ready for such a job...3 years later on 2007 he is runnig!!! what a flip flopper!!

[humpycub]

The lists of flip-flops for both candidates are lengthy, but notice how McCain's flips aren't even mentioned on Fox News unless Alan Colmes brings them up. I have learned by watching Fox that when a Republican changes postions on an issue it's because they've "looked at the latest facts and adjusted their postion to suit" and when a Democrat does it, they've "flip-flopped". The gospel according to Karl Rove. 'Fair and balanced'? What a freakin' joke!

[TheManchurian2008]

humpycub: "The lists of flip-flops for both candidates are lengthy, but notice how McCain's flips aren't even mentioned on Fox News"

In your dreams fanatical leftist piece of trash. Obama has 1,000 flip-flops against McCain's only 1 or 2. This fanatical know their candidate is a piece of trash and they try to make you think the two are equal. Loser ignorants.

[humpycub]

I'm a fanatical leftist piece of trash? Let's see - I'm not a Democrat, I'm anti-abortion, I'm anti-gun control and I don't like Obama. What I AM is someone who wants fairness in media coverage. Know what the f*ck you're talking about before you rip someone.

[KhilSetheu]

im glad someone else is with me on this subject... im sick of the bias news reports

[RyanChesley28]

How many republicans "Flip Flop" on the same day??

[luvangel330]

Every 30 minutes, somewhere in America MCCain is flip floping on an issue.

[hiptotheTube]

RiteWIngNutJob - Look at the January presidential debate. He said we need to be "as careful getting out as getting in", but he believes it would be safe to get them home in 16 months. He has been consitent on this. He is saying it depends on conditions on the ground, but based on his understanding of conditions on the ground 16 months is doable. This whole manufactured flip-flop is a republican creation.

[Doc53]

republicans are so funny

[ramblnman24]

this guy does not know if he is coming or going!just another liberal demdem!

[Gright]

His actions at the moment of GOING TO THE WARZONE AND GETTING INFORMATION HIMSELF will help him finalize a decision. You are an idiot if you say you're goign to do something and then do it without proper intel. I guess you guys would rathe rhave a leader who doesn't think through his decisions.

[Gright]

HOYL SHIT! A MAN IS GOING TO FIND OUT INFORMATION BEFORE HE MAKES A FINAL DECISION! WHAT A NOOB ROFL LOL! This guys is smarter than some other candidates.

[ichalz]

People still actually put faith in things Fox news has to say? Wow.

[justinbrosam]

i also get tired of people saying that mccain said he wanted us to stay in iraq for 100 years. i believe that. but im sure he means that we just occupy it for that long. i mean we got soldiers over in vietnam and south korea. people just took what he said out of context.

[skwashdis]

You flaming far left liberal democrats must be so upset with Obama. He promises to withdraw the troops, then back tracks, he voted in favor of FISA. He says he is against the war, but continues to vote in favor of funding the war. He seems to be moving to a more centrist political idealogy, much to the detriment of you far left wing liberals. He know the far left won't vote for McCain, so your votes are guaranteed.

[Velayasha]

skwashdis We are not upset with Obama. We know he has to move a little to the right if he wants to be elected. Every candidate does this dance in the General Election. I don't think Obama should have left his church, but he knew that most whites don't understand black churches. He had to leave or you guys would continue to call him racist.

[danastasio1025]

yup, your absolutely right when you say that 'most whites don't understand black churches'. i mean what on earth does 'God damn America mean'? and god forbid we build bigger prisons, honestly, who do we think we are holding law breakers against their will?

[Velayasha]

danastasio I stand by my statement. Your average white person doesn't know what to make of black churches. It's a foreign culture to most of us. But it's no reason to villify them over it. And it's no suprise that issues of race will be talked about in black churches. There was another Jeremiah who said that God would damn Israel. They hated him too. But in 586 B.C. Babylon conquered and burned Jerusalem. They enslaved the Jews for a time.

[danastasio1025]

honestly, i dont have a problem with people speaking out against what they think is wrong. but this is no more a church than a political congregation

[1000101001]

I guess the problem i have with this assessment is that you have come to this conclusion based entirely on a 30s soundbyte and nothing else. How you can effictively come to an absolute conclusion on so little information is beyond me .

[Velayasha]

Pat Robertson damns America on a regular basis. Is that ok because he's white? How about the late Jerry Falwell? When 9/11 happened, he said pretty much the same the thing as Wright did. America's chickens came home to roost because of our sins. Wright does not hate the country he served 6 years in the Marines for. We villify what we do not understand. And for whites, we think it's worse when blacks make similar statements that white pastors have made.

[anomalysix]

this is not flip-flopping. i guess stupid people can't tell the difference.

[cncmaster3]

Now we know what he means by "change". He changes his mind all the time.

[contraBOT1337]

lol

[h1c9m69]

Obama's not a flip flops , because his slogan is ............CHANGE.....ALL THE TIME

[birdyb24]

Obama believes a lot of things. Fact is, we can't withdraw in 16 months. Moreover, the joing chiefs don't execute missions, they only advise. Obama is an empty suit.

[VRWCnetwork]

The media has missed the real point of Obama's latest flip flop. Obama said "the pace of withdrawal would be dictated by... the need to maintain stability" He never gave a crap about maintaining stability when he was calling for precipitous withdrawal and calling for our total removal by March '08. If we had followed his strategy, there would be nothing to left to stabilize in Iraq.

B.O., isn't your new rhetoric regarding ensuring stability in Iraq an admission that the surge worked?

[stonerj0e]

He needs to get the troops out of Iraq because we are so short on troops we need some troops for Iran right ?

[aftern9ne]

Yeah, there are no flip flops in this video. I think the least a politically active American can do is fact check on these allegations.

[RepublicanforObama08]

Go Obama !!!!!!! Obama '08

[aubiecatt]

You people that are going to vote for this chump are going to get what you deserve. Unfortunatly we will be dragged along with you.

[alexsep82]

i understood that he just want to discuss it with the general instead of getting there and say "let's go home!!", of course he has to talk to the chief first for a good strategy. the same thing with G. Clark, he only said that being taken hostage doesn't mean that the one that hasn't been taken hostage can't be president. but ppl look who's broacasting that, FOXmcCainNews. Obama had to come back and talk because them Fox will hammer him. Now that he came and clarified things Fox still talks.

[CBERASTUS]

After 40 years of the 'Liberal Big Three' (ABC, NBC, and CBS) it is no wonder that dems think FOX is biased. The American people have had liberal views shoved down their throats for years and FOX is simply trying to correct that and be objective. Liberals absolutely hate OBJECTIVITY!!!

[alexsep82]

Fox isn't been fair not balanced so i don't know what you mean with being Objective. I watched Fox all day long yesterday and all they did was criticize Obama. Hannity said Obama ain'y qualified 10 times so i hope no one gets upset when mccain is called no qualified. 85% of Fox invited guest are (R). CNN is more balanced than FOX. FOX is for (R) and everybody knows that. The most disgusting comments against Obama have been called on FOX. I laugh at them for calling themselves fair and balanced.

[CBERASTUS]

alexsep82 - You wrote: "Hannity said Obama ain'y qualified"

Hannity said Obama is not qualified...because Obama's not qualified. ;)

When a person states facts, THAT is called objectivity.

Both Hillary and McCain are qualified to do the position. Obama has basically done nothing but give good speeches.

I am very proud that a newscast, after 40 years of liberal vomit, is finally allowed be fair and balanced!

Go McCain!!! (former Hillary supporter)

[alexsep82]

are you saying that you were a Hillary supporter?? if that's what you meant then you never were a real supporter. How are you gonna vote for a person who goes against the principles of your party?? i rather don't vote. if one day you said you wanted to end the war, have good education, good health care and protect your environment then i think you are the greatest flip flopper with all due respect. FOX ain't balanced at all.

[CBERASTUS]

alexsep82 -

Yes, I was a Hillary supporter. Now I am a McCain supporter. If I am going to vote for a President, he/she should be experienced and qualified. Obama is neither.

My choice. :)

Of course you don't think FOX is balanced...liberals loathe objectivity!!!

[h1c9m69]

Please my young man don't think little of the American's knowledge , please don't try to " use" & " play " words : ...careful getting out... + ...safety & security our troops...+ ...go to Iraq talk to the commander...+ ... American's interest...+...+ = looking at condition & situation ( in Iraq to withdraw the US troops ) => not calendars ( 16 months )

[handsometall28]

Great foxnews, when it calls the fist handshake "terrorist handshake" what do you expect? I didn't hear any flip-flop here by the way.

[BrownPeopleGetUp]

Are we really this stoopid?!

This guys don't represent my level of awareness.

My heart goes out to those whom these guys represent well with their inability to comprehend a 100% unchanged and cohesive message by Obama-

[BoyBeamish]

This is complete distortion by the McCain campaign, the media and the right wing. Obama's position has not changed a bit in at least 18 months and there is ample evidence to back this up.

[ecertal]

What's changed is that Fox and CNN, having portrayed Obama's Iraq policy as far-left, now have to admit that it isn't, so they're claiming that there's been a shift by Obama to the center - where he was all along. Besides Obama's Iraq policy, what hasn't changed is that Fox/CNN are about protecting their bosses' multi- $M investments in the Republican party.

[lycurgusthelawgiver]

"Rite"?  Me no get. is funny, supposed to be?

[canycme]

Barack-Iraq-Gate: Anatomy of a Media Smear

Jed Report on You Tube, check it out if you're not afraid.

[CBERASTUS]

I think it is safe to say at this point...Obama is a sinking ship. He should be miles ahead of McCain in the polls this early in the game - considering all of the attention he garnered battling Hillary. However, he is in a statistical dead-heat with McCain. This is the beginning of the end for Obama

[Soldierette]

CBERASTUS, you must have stopped watching the polls, because Obama is whooping McBush like he's already the POTUS. The sinking ship is a old ass man with funky yellow teeth and a lie on the end of his tongue. His nickname is McBush.

[CBERASTUS]

Soldierette - Actually you are quite wrong my liberal lemming friend. Currently, McCain and Obama are in a statistical dead-heat. Obama should be miles ahead of McCain in the polls this early in the game - considering all of the attention he garnered battling Hillary.

This is the beginning of the end for Obama. Too bad because I loved watching his ability to flip-flop on, not one, but every issue. :)

What a great President he'd be! (rolls eyes)

[Soldierette]

The one thing you're right about is that President Obama will be one of the great Presidents of this country. People like you are the reason why we had to put up with that idiot in the White House. McBush is far worse than that Texas Liar on Pennsylvania Ave. There is NOTHING anyone can say to make me vote for McBush or not vote for President Obama. THAT, my friend, is a done deal.

NOT. THIS. TIME!

[CBERASTUS]

SisterSouljah - When did I say Obama would be a great President you idiot?

[j4g39]

Why can't all you people realize that McCain and Obama are bad choices. Yes, Obama does flip flop and so does McCain, and their policies are both draped in special interests. One day people will wake up to the crap that democrats and republicans are spewing out, but it will be too late. Obama won't get us out of this war, we elected the democrats to do that 2 years ago, but they failed. Why is he different, he votes for the war spending bills constantly.

[h1c9m69]

Is this young man had a " injured brain " ??? for got what he said OR is he a demagogic person ??? try to said , promised , planed every things and any things to get a voter for be come the president of USA . Now may be we vote for micky mouse

[thug4life1979]

Even the democrats are jumping ship over this dangerously unqualified racist

[Soldierette]

What's funny is that all of the racists are calling Obama a racist, as if that will take votes away from him. He's not a racist, and we all know it. How can someone with a white mother and a black father hate one or the other race without hating themselves? You sound stupid, so just shut up and read a book or something. And for God's sake, quit watching Faux News and CNN. They don't report the news. They create the news. Jackass!

[CBERASTUS]

I'm sorry folks, but all of the negative rhetoric must stop! You are forgetting that Affirmative Action is the 'law of the land' now...and has been for nearly forty years. Mr. Obama is black, so therefore we should lower the bar for him. As a matter of fact, we should also give him free tuition, subsidize his family, and most importantly...GIVE HIM AN UNDESERVED JOB!!!

[electrodyne1]

Since when does the word "refine"

mean "reverse"?

And, coming back later in the day to say that he had not flipped...counts as a 2nd flip?? huh????? Wishful thinking from the McCain camp.

One thing I know for sure: McCain wants a permanent presence in Iraq...doesn't mind killing more people to have it...and doesn't mind borrowing huge sums from China to pay for it.

(OK...that's 3 things)

[ClassicFIHD]

electrodyne1,

Want to see something funny? Even Obama agrees we will need to keep a presence in Iraq.

watch?v=BjQ_J4WMHzM

[sadieaugust]

Obama's Draft Call! Change?

The Republican has an all-volunteer military but the Democrat Party loves the Draft.

On a trip to Colorado, July 2, 2008 Obama Issues New Call for National Service.

Obama, who was scheduled to meet in the afternoon with military officials, renewed his call for bigger and stronger U.S. forces.

Obama said Americans were ready to answer a new call for national service.

"I won't just ask for your vote as a candidate -- I will ask for your service."

[Soldierette]

sadieaugust, you need to really pay attention so that you will actually know what's going on. Obama is asking all Americans to contribute to this country, instead of asking the country to contribute to them only. National service is not military service. You sound like a retard saying that. He means the Peace Corps, USA Freedom Corps, Girls/Boys Clubs, homeless shelters, etc.

In the words of Fred Sanford, "You Big Dummy!"

[CBERASTUS]

YourFlavahness - I think you wrote the book on 'dummy!' I can't understand half of what you write...its like you write in ebonics or something. Did you finish school?

[NashfanVash]

I quit watching Faux long ago. It's a waste of time. Unfortunately there are viewers out there that believe the garbage that is being spewed.

[allencrider]

This is BS. Obama never shanced his policy on Iraq. I'm voting for him because he's taking us out of Iraq. McCain wants to occupy Iraq for 100 years.

[rhickle]

Open your eyes and listen. Mcain didnt mean that we would be fighting a war in Iraq for 100 years. We are still in Germany, Japan, Vietnam etc. decades after those wars because no other country can defend itself. We will be in Iraq forever with some type of troops. Obama is going to go over to Iraq and listen to the generals tell him that shit is finally working and pulling that many people out will hurt. Dont you think Al Qaeda is just sittin there hoping and praying this bonehead gets in???

[TheRiteWing]

you took the words right out of my mouth.

thank you.

[Soldierette]

rhickle, the part that you and all others who believe McBush don't understand is that we don't want to be in IRaq for 100 years or even 1 more year. That's what you don't get. We get what McBush said, but the end result is still the same. Fuck Iraq. We don't belong there and never should have invaded that country. We were wrong and need to get the hell out of their country. They'll NEVER accept us being there on holy land. That's what you guys don't get, especially that crazy old man, McBush.

[skids7682]

What an amateur. That wasn't even a flip, forget a flip flop. You want to see real flip flops ask McCain about... well just about anything.

[jtartsy]

I've been saying this for the longest. People want to act like Obama flip flops so that they can feel good about voting for McCain

[skids7682]

Lately it seems to be the Republican strategy is to try to get Obama supporters to become cynical and not to vote at all. Probably because his "enthusiasm" numbers are so high in the polls.

They know they are in trouble because McCain is a lousy candidate and even most hard core Republicans do not like him. Their only hope is to bring us back to thinking all hope is lost and all politicians are the same. (Just look at the comments here, I bet some of them were payed operatives.)

[RyanChesley28]

Three Letters to prove flip flops by Obama.... NRA

[jeffrsn]

FauxNews continues its parade of propaganda. This is the same thing Barack has always said, even on the same FauxNews channel on April 27. Check the facts.

"I will listen to Gen Petraeus given the experience he has accumulated over the last several years. It would be stupid of me to ignore what he has to say. But it is my job as President, it would be my job as Commander in Chief to set the mission."

President Barack Hussein Obama. It won't be long now before we hear these words.

[efectomariposa93]

But why does he comment on a time table for withdrawal (he has used it as extensively in his campaign)when he doesn't have information enough to make such judgements even according to him self?

Fucking tool.