The U.S Shelters gas animals in mass, thousands of them. The meat and egg industry kill millions of animals yearly. so tell me...why does everyone get into mass hysteria if i throw a rock in the general direction of a cat?
Why does this registry need governmental approval? Why doesn't another group take up the effort to do this? Like ASPCA or animal welfare organizations?
Maybe a California over weight registry? Or even better, a high emmisions, non green registry? Anyone who uses incandescent lighting must drink from a seperate bubbler. No more laws please...
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It seems to me that the answer for the funding of this animal abuse registry would be to have animal cruelty fines that pay the registry. Have the sick fu@ks on the registry pay for it; having the regular nice people burdened by it is absurd.
There pretty serious about taking care of animals there. By law you have to get your cat or dog fixed if it's not a show or breeding animal. I lived in LA a few years ago. I tried to adopt a cat and I had to prove I would give it a good home and have references. The humane society never puts animals who aren't sick to sleep.
I live in Ontario, Canada, and our humane societies don't put animals to sleep unless they are non-adoptable (violent) or too sick to survive. In the municipality where I live we are not required to fix pets, but there is a two pet maximum and there is often a pet fixing drive where vets neuter pets at reduced cost to pet owners.
"but there is a two pet maximum and there is often a pet fixing drive where vets neuter pets at reduced cost to pet owners."
...We've got those pet fixing drives in Michigan; I think most states do. I imagine Canada has a much more humane way of dealing with pets than the average state does though.
Well unfortunately many people who live in big cities see the homeless as a problem to be swept under the rug... not all but many. I'm certain our doctors and nurses get bitter about treating the drug addicted homeless, but they have no choice but to provide care and every person, whether they have an address or not has the right to due process, and is protected by our Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Haven't you heard? Us Canadians are making Swastikas in our igloos and are "aboot" to take over America with sled dogs, because Glen Beck is on to us and we are running out of time!!!
I heard that with Obama-care, the government will get to decide which one out of ten Americans is gay, then if they don't gay-marry they get put in jail. And the lesbians are going to have to undergo mandatory artificial-insemination so they can force them to have abortions. And all children under two will have to take an IQ test and anyone who gets below a 97 gets "put down".
Did you know Thomas Jefferson never really existed?
...so a person convicted of sodomizing will be put in jail were he can be sodomized. I guess thats southern logic.
Actually it is any child under two years old that surpasses an adult and the score is over 97, and the adult is a southern Republican, then the adult gets free cookies for life... and a private Christian education and political nomination when he commits adultery.
"so a person convicted of sodomizing will be put in jail were he can be sodomized. I guess thats southern logic."
...Actually, under Obama's plan a person would go to jail if he is picked to be one of our gay citizens and does not comply; so he would go to jail for not commiting sodomy.
"a private Christian education"
...That reminds me of something interesting I learned recently: did you know the entire universe is only two-and-a-half years old?
".... go to jail if he is picked to be one of our gay citizens and does not comply; so he would go to jail for not commiting sodomy."
That actually makes sense because sodomy and homosexuality is law ... right now isn't it? I thought it was part of the health-care bill.
The universe is not 2 1/2 years old! It is actually much older. Christian SCIENTISTS estimate it at least 15 years before Christ...... so .... 8 + 2 carry the one is .....elevety hundred years ago!!!
That reminds me of a picture from the Creation Museum with their geological time scale. It shows 4004 BC to present day. It still has the cenozic, mesozoic, paleozoic (etc) eras and the Jurassic, Triassic, Permian (etc) periods but they are all in one tiny slice at the very beginning, like they are all condensed in the first five years! If they are going to ignore real scientific work, ignore ALL of it, don't twist it around like that.
It's so ridiculous; if they are going to ignore real scientific work, just ignore it all, don't make a mockery out of it like that. They do the same thing with the Big Bang with ther "Cosmological Argument" where they note that scientists now say our universe had a beginning (even though that's not really what the Big Bang postulates). The same studies that discovered the Big Bang were where they found the 13.72 byo universe. Yet, for some reason that part of it is wrong.
yeah that sounds like a good idea too...except i dont think it would be enough to fund it though...and i think pet owners would be happy to pay for the registry...to be honest, i can imagine ALOT of not for profit organizations who would be willing to provide funding and assistance to such a registry...so it may even end up costing pet owners less.
exactly...imo to make pet owners pay for this registry would deter irresponsible ppl from buying pets as well, cause it would increase the cost of pet ownership...honestly, i think the registry should be coupled with a licensing system...pet ownership should not be available to everyone...the license fees (in addition to fines) should pay for the registry instead of taxation...plus private donations should be more than adequate funding anyway..
When I tried to adopt that cat in LA, the cost was $130 which was great because it would discourage irresponsible people who shouldn't have pets and the money was used for the cat's shots and stuff like that; the stuff you are supposed to get for your pet, this way they made sure it got done. The main reason I got a cat in Michigan instead (when I moved) is I realized the one in CA had a much better chance then the MI cat.
Why would it cost so much? All it is is a database. The set up and data entry might cost a bit to begin with, but it could almost be completely automated. Heck even the human society could run it, and all the courts would need to do is send an email or fill out an online form. The infrastructure is already there.
I don't know... it is important. Some Serial Killers often get their start by mutilating animals. It could be an important tool.
That's an excellent point. Of course, serial killers aren't that numerous but there are a lot of other violent lunatics out there. Having record of those who hurt animals would be an extremely useful thing to have.
How many repeat animal abusers are there? Once they get caught they should know better than to do it again. How about posting pictures of animals in pet shops so when someone sees that person they can just refuse to sell him or her an animal?
First, inflation continually devalues the currency which makes previous levels of per capita tax income insufficient to maintain the same level of services. Inflation is caused by the Federal Government and is beyond California's control.
Second, people keep demanding more and more government services and refuse to prioritize by eliminating existing programs to pay for new ones.
There are two elements in terms of tax revenue; the tax rate and the tax base.
The tax rate (which is limited by prop 13) is how much tax any one person or business is charged.
The tax base is how many people and businesses there are paying taxes.
As the population grows the revenue needs of the government grows but so does the tax base. If anything economies of scale should allow the government to reduce the tax rate while maintaining the same level of service.
no difference between eating cats and dogs and hens and lambs and ducks and pigs and calfs and buffaloes and cows and deer and birds..... they all fear of death they all feel the pain they all recognize the love.
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I'm glad to hear that Cenk finally agrees that the California liberals/progressives are "mental" cases
However, I still prefer Rahm Emanuel's label of progressives as "fucking morons"
as to the Registry, it's certain that California can not go to China for a loan! The Chinese do not see abuse of cats and dogs as a problem,...they simply eat them!
Actually! The Chinese don't eat their pets. My dad lives in China and he said that whenever he makes a joke about them eating cats or dogs, they get really offended. They love their pets
A Guy can't take a break once in a while????? I enjoy Cenk alot but I also subscribe to the common sense I find on the program.......all the folks are cool.
I agree with Cenk. In an ideal world, this would be a good idea, BUT there are SOOOO many other higher priorities: schools, fire departments, infrastructure, all the people the gov't laid off, etc
Can't do it, can't play with it, can't coach with it, can't win with it, can't do it!
@TominMissouri I'm from Missouri. >:D I don't think straving children, or people with aids or cancer or the hatians dealing with the earthquake aftermath are a big deal. what value do they have on a conservation value scale? NONE! humans generally the ones who don't care about the environment or animals should all die... normally.
That's a lot of money to pay for a website and a database.
Why the hell would it cost so much money. Would they be hiring several relatives who's job is to solely watch over only this registry? I smell graft behind this proposal, really.
Not a bad idea, and I'd take it a step further and make a child abuser registry, but not at pork level spending and a ridiculous management scheme.
I fully support a system that protects the rights of animals (which should be expanded and more enforced) and I do believe animal abusers should be flagged when applying, for example, for a breeding license or adoption. Why shouldn't animals who can feel the same pain we can, who have emotions just like we do, have to have their suffering being at best 'tolerated'?
I could tell just from the title that cenk was back lol...not sure how.
There was 1 good replacement - but the other dudes completely not for a camera. Not that they were ugly, but because they seemed like they just got out from behind a cube for the first time in 8 years.
I kind of have to admit, I think this animal abuse registry is actually a good idea, because at a relatively small annual cost (500K-1mill a year) we can probably save a LOT more by not having to try, prosecute and jail the idiots who abuse animals over and over. If they aren't allowed to have animals in the first place, we won't have to spend money rescuing the animals and then spend a TON more money putting the repeat offenders through the legal system again and again.
Frankly as cold as this might sound I think this bill is of far more importance than our so called education system...
And a brief glance at most of the negative news broadcast on the air or at a good variety of our "public entertainment" shows can more than speak volumes for where your beloved tax dollars have been going in that regard as is...
Throwing more money away on something that simply either does not want to or merely lacks the capacity to learn is foolishness of the highest order...
Alot of Americans are insane. Taxes in and of themselves are not bad, only badly use taxes are bad. Where did this craziness start about taxes are evil?
Good points. I think that this abusers registery should be implemented and it should be seriously considerd. I agree that if taxes need to be raised, they should incorperate alot of the imidiate costs too, not just the pet abuse registery.
On a simular note as one comment also pointed out, there needs to be a clear line between real abuse and disciplin for pet owners.
Is killing a fly consider animal abuse? is cow sex consider animal abuse? I think we need to stop these animal on animal crimes like we need to stop black on black crime. its okay to have black on white crime
I have 2 dogs, 2 cats and we (my fam) love them. They are absolutely part of our family. That being said, I HATE PETA and all the pet nazi's who think they are helping anything. These busybodies just love to pretend they are holier than thou. I would love to see them all just go away.
this bill has nothing to do with PETA. having a registry like this will help society in general...especially law enforcement...the registry will contain a list of potential suspects in unsolved violent crimes...
@koala8 Maybe not PETA specifically. Animal Nazi's for sure. Progressives think that they can legislate the world's problems away. There is NO proof for this theory. As an example, think of all the disclosures you get in the mail from any mutual fund you own. Every one of these is a progressive response to your right to be well informed. The effect of them is only to make a person more confused. This animal registry will be an ineffective waste of money.
Legislation doesnt necessarily exist to get rid of the world's problems - that's not its purpose...laws can provide structure/certainty and an authorized system within which things are done...that seems to be what the registry is attempting to do. i.e. provide a system within which animal abusers are prevented from owning animals in the future and provide leads for police in future cases
@koala8 You want layer upon layer of government and I think that is completely counter productive. We get to disagree in the good old USA. Isn't that great.
even if the registry is not tax funded but funded privately, there still needs to be a legislation to regulate the maintenance of it or else ppl would abuse the system..
The pet offender registry is a good idea, the fact remains your priorities are wrong, your people are mentally sick, you need to fix the hearts and minds of the american people.
Here's an idea, which probably isn't that good. When people are arrested or punished somehow for abusing animals, make them pay a hefty fine, and that money will go towards keeping up this registry. That way, they're basically paying for their own punishment, and it might help keep taxes low. I agree with you guys though, in theory the registry sounds great but is it plausible financially?
In regards to the California university system, Cenk says: "it's actually in the constitution of California that you're supposed to get a free education", but this is all I could find, and it doesn't seem to apply:
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 9 EDUCATION
SEC. 5. The Legislature shall provide for a system of common schools by which a free school shall be kept up and supported in each district at least six months in every year, after the first year in which a school has been established.
So how much does it cost to homeschool a child? A few textbooks and some of the parents precious time?
First of all.. ITS YOURRRRRRR CHILD!!! If you want YOUR CHILD to have a good education... SIT DOWN WITH YOURRRR CHILD AND GIVE HIM AN EDUCATION! Spend some time with your kid and teach them what they need to know in life. STOP putting all the blame for your dumbass kids on the public school system.
If youd get off your ass once in a while and open a book, maybe Billy wouldnt be dumb as a rock!
Cenk your clearly still governed by the bibles dominion over animals ideology even when you claim to be atheist. You claim to be a believer of evolution yet you clearly lack the intelligence to understand it's origins.
Think of it this way. If they can come together for this, maybe they can come together for other topics as well. Think of it as a baby step to working together to get tax bills passed.
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Im sorry but people who think animals aka pets n shit are this important need to get a life. I mean I love pets but this is just retarded when we have so much crap to worry about in this life now they are trying to find another way to criminalize someone... using a fuckin pet. Its a fucking animal it will most likely eat your dead ass if locked in a room with you, contrary to a human who can open the fuckin door or call 911. ehhh but then thats the way I look at shizz.
California is not in trouble because of low taxes it is because of high spending low taxes is supposed to signify small govt. a sales tax and the decriminalization of Marijuana along with significant spending cuts in wasteful areas can solve budget problems but high taxes puts more people in need of Govt. assistance which will cause a need for more taxes and so on. How about a National prop 13 that would be sweet
This is the new form of segregation. We are now dealing with labeling and separating personalities and types of people. Not that abusing animals is defend-able but people get on this lists that shouldn't be just like we have seen with sexual offenders.
So, what happens when a state becomes a green dream like the people advocating for all of this energy control?
It ceases to be industrial, businesses suffer, manufacturing and production of goods and services crash. Production of natural resources crash. Protection of natural resources crash. Welfare roles swell. Government agencies increase their oversight of pretty much everything. California is the archetype.
@RomeoMD25 On the other hand, it could lead to new industries opening up, more funding going into furthering related research, and lower production costs so businesses will be able to hire more workers or lower the prices of their goods and services. Who knows?
@RomeoMD25 No, industry finds other ways of becoming more efficient. This has happened in Germany and Japan, where the cars have become massively efficient, going a thousand kilometres on a single tank.
I agree, I like Cenk, but he always overpowers Ana. I really like Ana too, because she's smart and clever, and differs from Cenk in many ways. I like Cenk, but I would like to hear Ana talk more because these are her stories while he should take the more political... I don't know why you got a thumbs down...
A person who abuses animals will continue to abuse, again and again, unless stopped. A registry would identify them before they have the chance to adopt another animal, in effect, saving the suffering and possibly the life of another innocent life, and Cenk has issue with it?
Ever heard the phrase "what you don't speak out against, you condone"? By being against a possible resolution to this, you're encouraging it. I knew he was a bigot, now I also know he's a scumbag.
id say we send all the high school drop outs and those good for nothin "gangsters/cholos" to afghanistan instead of the good kids who actually have a future!
And to your point (although I lower myself by doing this) CONGRATULATIONS!!! You won we DO send the highschool drop outs and gang bangers and the least fortunate to the war already. So happy day for you... Unless yuou want it mandated in which case my response would not be like the one I am giving now.
I have never felt more disagreement with TYT. Pets are the most vulnerable beings I know of. People that abuse them need to be prevented. To turn our backs is like pretending child molestation doesn't happen. It won't go away by not dealing with it.
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That's not what their saying in theses times you need to have priorities, saving the mind of a child or the heart of the elderly takes priority over animals I understand your statement but we need priorities
Pets are more vunerable than children? Or the sick? Or the poor? How about poor sick children? You can't raise tax to provide a sick child free healthcare but you can to stop pet abuse?
I understand where youre coming from but you cant compare child molestation and the abuse of animals. Animal abuse will always be on the back burner as long as other evils and, unfortunately, high tuitions at universities. It might sound cruel but its the fact of the matter
Animal abusers are bullies and cowards who take their issues out on easy victims, and they rarely limit themselves to hurting only animals. Psychiatrists, criminal profilers and law enforcement officials have repeatedly documented that young people who are cruel to animals often turn that violence against humans.
Cruelty to animals appears in the histories of all our nations serial killers and tragic school shooters. The FBI uses reports of cruelty to animals to gauge the threat potential of known criminals.
Its vital that people who hurt animals receive intervention, including counseling and a ban on contact with animals, to prevent their violence from continuing.
Animal abusers often escalate to preying on humans.
ALL serial killers started off abusing animals.
In the 1970s research into prisoner profiles found a strong link between serial killers and a history of cruelty to animals. More recent studies into current and past cases have confirmed the link. Retrospective studies of the life of convicted sadistic murderers and serial murderers showed a startling proportion of those murderers had a history of animal abuse, often starting in childhood.
@TheMia168 - Not all serial killers start off abusing animals. In fact, abusing animals is only 1 of 3 main indicators of a future serial killer. Most serial killers only display 2 of the 3 traits(the others being a pyromaniac and having prolonged bed-wetting.) To say that this registry would prevent a serial-killer is ridiculous. While there is a correlation, it's not a fool-proof one. There's definetly some holes in your logic.
The roll call of internationally infamous killers includes Jeffrey Dahmer, Milwaukee's cannibal killer of 16 young men; Albert deSalvo, the Boston Strangler, who murdered 13 women; David Berkowitz, the Son of Sam; (to be continue)
The U.S Shelters gas animals in mass, thousands of them. The meat and egg industry kill millions of animals yearly. so tell me...why does everyone get into mass hysteria if i throw a rock in the general direction of a cat?
MagWrath 1 month ago
Why does this registry need governmental approval? Why doesn't another group take up the effort to do this? Like ASPCA or animal welfare organizations?
animals0feel1pain2 11 months ago
Maybe a California over weight registry? Or even better, a high emmisions, non green registry? Anyone who uses incandescent lighting must drink from a seperate bubbler. No more laws please...
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MsSkbt 1 year ago
This registry should be worldwide. Animal abusers are bad enough, but what's even WORSE is they tend to attack PEOPLE next.
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FoxMedina 1 year ago
How about getting a damn half good healthcare service first before worrying about this?
SupremePenguinTone 1 year ago
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koala8 1 year ago
this is actually a pretty good idea....
koala8 1 year ago
It seems to me that the answer for the funding of this animal abuse registry would be to have animal cruelty fines that pay the registry. Have the sick fu@ks on the registry pay for it; having the regular nice people burdened by it is absurd.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257
Exactly. A fine should be a minimal mandatory sentence. I'm also certain that many people would volunteer to help out as well.
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Joxman2k 1 year ago
@Joxman2k
There pretty serious about taking care of animals there. By law you have to get your cat or dog fixed if it's not a show or breeding animal. I lived in LA a few years ago. I tried to adopt a cat and I had to prove I would give it a good home and have references. The humane society never puts animals who aren't sick to sleep.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257
I live in Ontario, Canada, and our humane societies don't put animals to sleep unless they are non-adoptable (violent) or too sick to survive. In the municipality where I live we are not required to fix pets, but there is a two pet maximum and there is often a pet fixing drive where vets neuter pets at reduced cost to pet owners.
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Joxman2k 1 year ago
@Joxman2k
"but there is a two pet maximum and there is often a pet fixing drive where vets neuter pets at reduced cost to pet owners."
...We've got those pet fixing drives in Michigan; I think most states do. I imagine Canada has a much more humane way of dealing with pets than the average state does though.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@Joxman2k
Cont:
In fact, I bet Canada takes better care of homeless pets than the US takes of care of people!
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257
Well unfortunately many people who live in big cities see the homeless as a problem to be swept under the rug... not all but many. I'm certain our doctors and nurses get bitter about treating the drug addicted homeless, but they have no choice but to provide care and every person, whether they have an address or not has the right to due process, and is protected by our Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
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Joxman2k 1 year ago
@Joxman2k
"to provide care and every person, whether they have an address or not has the right to due process"
...Caring for everybody!?! That's sounds like communism! It's definitely not the American way!
lol
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257
Haven't you heard? Us Canadians are making Swastikas in our igloos and are "aboot" to take over America with sled dogs, because Glen Beck is on to us and we are running out of time!!!
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Joxman2k 1 year ago
@Joxman2k
I heard that with Obama-care, the government will get to decide which one out of ten Americans is gay, then if they don't gay-marry they get put in jail. And the lesbians are going to have to undergo mandatory artificial-insemination so they can force them to have abortions. And all children under two will have to take an IQ test and anyone who gets below a 97 gets "put down".
Did you know Thomas Jefferson never really existed?
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257
...so a person convicted of sodomizing will be put in jail were he can be sodomized. I guess thats southern logic.
Actually it is any child under two years old that surpasses an adult and the score is over 97, and the adult is a southern Republican, then the adult gets free cookies for life... and a private Christian education and political nomination when he commits adultery.
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Joxman2k 1 year ago
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"so a person convicted of sodomizing will be put in jail were he can be sodomized. I guess thats southern logic."
...Actually, under Obama's plan a person would go to jail if he is picked to be one of our gay citizens and does not comply; so he would go to jail for not commiting sodomy.
"a private Christian education"
...That reminds me of something interesting I learned recently: did you know the entire universe is only two-and-a-half years old?
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257
".... go to jail if he is picked to be one of our gay citizens and does not comply; so he would go to jail for not commiting sodomy."
That actually makes sense because sodomy and homosexuality is law ... right now isn't it? I thought it was part of the health-care bill.
The universe is not 2 1/2 years old! It is actually much older. Christian SCIENTISTS estimate it at least 15 years before Christ...... so .... 8 + 2 carry the one is .....elevety hundred years ago!!!
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Joxman2k 1 year ago
@Joxman2k
That reminds me of a picture from the Creation Museum with their geological time scale. It shows 4004 BC to present day. It still has the cenozic, mesozoic, paleozoic (etc) eras and the Jurassic, Triassic, Permian (etc) periods but they are all in one tiny slice at the very beginning, like they are all condensed in the first five years! If they are going to ignore real scientific work, ignore ALL of it, don't twist it around like that.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@Joxman2k
Cont:
It's so ridiculous; if they are going to ignore real scientific work, just ignore it all, don't make a mockery out of it like that. They do the same thing with the Big Bang with ther "Cosmological Argument" where they note that scientists now say our universe had a beginning (even though that's not really what the Big Bang postulates). The same studies that discovered the Big Bang were where they found the 13.72 byo universe. Yet, for some reason that part of it is wrong.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257
yeah that sounds like a good idea too...except i dont think it would be enough to fund it though...and i think pet owners would be happy to pay for the registry...to be honest, i can imagine ALOT of not for profit organizations who would be willing to provide funding and assistance to such a registry...so it may even end up costing pet owners less.
koala8 1 year ago
@koala8
Yeah, in fact I bet one celebrity benefit for abused animals would pay for it for the next 10 years.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257
exactly...imo to make pet owners pay for this registry would deter irresponsible ppl from buying pets as well, cause it would increase the cost of pet ownership...honestly, i think the registry should be coupled with a licensing system...pet ownership should not be available to everyone...the license fees (in addition to fines) should pay for the registry instead of taxation...plus private donations should be more than adequate funding anyway..
koala8 1 year ago
@koala8
When I tried to adopt that cat in LA, the cost was $130 which was great because it would discourage irresponsible people who shouldn't have pets and the money was used for the cat's shots and stuff like that; the stuff you are supposed to get for your pet, this way they made sure it got done. The main reason I got a cat in Michigan instead (when I moved) is I realized the one in CA had a much better chance then the MI cat.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
Why would it cost so much? All it is is a database. The set up and data entry might cost a bit to begin with, but it could almost be completely automated. Heck even the human society could run it, and all the courts would need to do is send an email or fill out an online form. The infrastructure is already there.
I don't know... it is important. Some Serial Killers often get their start by mutilating animals. It could be an important tool.
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Joxman2k 1 year ago
@Joxman2k
That's an excellent point. Of course, serial killers aren't that numerous but there are a lot of other violent lunatics out there. Having record of those who hurt animals would be an extremely useful thing to have.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
I actually think regulating animal abuse is extremely important. I do think it's a top priority.
littlehenlittle 1 year ago
there should be something liek this that way if you fucking abuse animals you dont get to buy one . ! thats how it should be
AndrewMacedonia 1 year ago
great point Cenk
DrakeMagnum 1 year ago
I like this idea, maybe it'll be possible in the future?
gabbee16 1 year ago
finallly something to stop the asians from eating their dogs...
jk
hahayouknowme33 1 year ago
I think that would be a good idea. Finally CA has something good to say... lol
musiclovinggurl123 1 year ago
Cool video I have a new one up, how about checking it out thanks Billy
billyboy638 1 year ago
I've watched TYT for awhile and I never realized how much Cenk resembles Robert DeNiro..... He even has the mole!
slayalips 1 year ago
the pple that are guilty for animal abuse shoul be in jail for 25 years they get slap in a risk
sindefeatist 1 year ago 2
...it's actually "a slap in the wrist."
m22k3yt 1 year ago
How many repeat animal abusers are there? Once they get caught they should know better than to do it again. How about posting pictures of animals in pet shops so when someone sees that person they can just refuse to sell him or her an animal?
UltraComboer 1 year ago
wow Ana looks really pretty here.
boxerjeep 1 year ago
She always does!!!
PreetSG 1 year ago
The problem with this theory is twofold:
First, inflation continually devalues the currency which makes previous levels of per capita tax income insufficient to maintain the same level of services. Inflation is caused by the Federal Government and is beyond California's control.
Second, people keep demanding more and more government services and refuse to prioritize by eliminating existing programs to pay for new ones.
Thank you for listening.
studentofsmith 1 year ago
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There are two elements in terms of tax revenue; the tax rate and the tax base.
The tax rate (which is limited by prop 13) is how much tax any one person or business is charged.
The tax base is how many people and businesses there are paying taxes.
As the population grows the revenue needs of the government grows but so does the tax base. If anything economies of scale should allow the government to reduce the tax rate while maintaining the same level of service.
cont...
studentofsmith 1 year ago
The idea makes sense. I do not want dog figthers adopting puppies and dogs from shelters.
ericaj58 1 year ago
What if someone sexually abuses an animal? Do they go on both registries?
Sephlock 1 year ago
i am a registered abuser,i am habitual dick beater everyday i beat my meat and tell it i love it then beat it it again
diamlierx 1 year ago
no difference between eating cats and dogs and hens and lambs and ducks and pigs and calfs and buffaloes and cows and deer and birds..... they all fear of death they all feel the pain they all recognize the love.
quitting meat is quitting animal abuse period.
Culizar 1 year ago
Politicians are stupid.
DanielJoseDiego 1 year ago
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I'm glad to hear that Cenk finally agrees that the California liberals/progressives are "mental" cases
However, I still prefer Rahm Emanuel's label of progressives as "fucking morons"
as to the Registry, it's certain that California can not go to China for a loan! The Chinese do not see abuse of cats and dogs as a problem,...they simply eat them!
genie0390 1 year ago
In responding to "the Chinese do not see abuse of cats and dogs... they simply eat them" What's your point?
Which one is the winner?
The Chinese eat their pets; or
Your RETARDED American Conservative Priests fuck American boys in the ass?
TheMia168 1 year ago 12
@TheMia168
frankly, I can not see any winners here,
..except to say that I'm more afraid of the
Chinese because when they run out of
pets, they likely will start in on us
yumyum
genie0390 1 year ago
butt fuckin boys is a world wide situation. Try reading your current events page on the net.
driverain2 1 year ago
@TheMia168 Actually Catholic priests all over the world do that. There was recently a case in Ireland.
nignog9097 1 year ago
@TheMia168 Priests are a very small minority and the majority of chinese eat cats and dogs, you have horrible logic.
KingTekins 7 months ago
@TheMia168 lolwut?
wikiporno2 1 month ago
Actually they are Working on laws to make it illegal to eat cats and dogs in china now.
Tony007corp 1 year ago
@genie0390
Actually! The Chinese don't eat their pets. My dad lives in China and he said that whenever he makes a joke about them eating cats or dogs, they get really offended. They love their pets
BornConfusing 1 year ago 2
@BornConfusing
what I hear is that the Cantonese are
notorious for such eating habits
some say that the Cantonese will
anything with legs except the kitchen
table
genie0390 1 year ago
Yeah... That's their culture, they can eat whatever they want, i don't think people should care =]
musiclovinggurl123 1 year ago
Fucking finally. Cenk is back...i was so close to unsubscribing...
timscott61495 1 year ago
A Guy can't take a break once in a while????? I enjoy Cenk alot but I also subscribe to the common sense I find on the program.......all the folks are cool.
driverain2 1 year ago
like they'd give 2 fucks.
CUTWEST 1 year ago
Ana has a hot Latino boyfriend!!!!
draconian45 1 year ago
I agree with Cenk. In an ideal world, this would be a good idea, BUT there are SOOOO many other higher priorities: schools, fire departments, infrastructure, all the people the gov't laid off, etc
Can't do it, can't play with it, can't coach with it, can't win with it, can't do it!
TominMissouri 1 year ago
@TominMissouri
or as red necks put it, "that dog won't hunt"
genie0390 1 year ago
@TominMissouri I'm from Missouri. >:D I don't think straving children, or people with aids or cancer or the hatians dealing with the earthquake aftermath are a big deal. what value do they have on a conservation value scale? NONE! humans generally the ones who don't care about the environment or animals should all die... normally.
FreethinkingJim 1 year ago
TYT show have a question of the day segmant or something like where they answer people questions or respone to some people comment's on their videos.
Useyno 1 year ago
California can't even keep it's child molester registry up to date, and now a animal abuse registry! give me my tax money back please!!!
FxOxC 1 year ago
I disagree with Cenk. Fuck you Cenk pets are important how they tortured your ass.
Ivan951 1 year ago
California Universities dont have tuition....its liiegal to have tuition. They have "fees"
agnosticautonomy 1 year ago
Cenk sorta looks tired, hope he gets some rest.
frozenunderwater 1 year ago
Cenk is back!
DeepTh0ught 1 year ago
Its cool, cali can just pink slip more teachers. that will get the registry up and running.
WesSideCali 1 year ago
That's a lot of money to pay for a website and a database.
Why the hell would it cost so much money. Would they be hiring several relatives who's job is to solely watch over only this registry? I smell graft behind this proposal, really.
Not a bad idea, and I'd take it a step further and make a child abuser registry, but not at pork level spending and a ridiculous management scheme.
manilaenglish 1 year ago
I fully support a system that protects the rights of animals (which should be expanded and more enforced) and I do believe animal abusers should be flagged when applying, for example, for a breeding license or adoption. Why shouldn't animals who can feel the same pain we can, who have emotions just like we do, have to have their suffering being at best 'tolerated'?
WellIAMScottish 1 year ago
Pet Abandonment is just another form of Pet Abuse! Domestic pets can't survie on their own on the street. Let's all be responsible pet owners!
TheMia168 1 year ago 3
I could tell just from the title that cenk was back lol...not sure how.
There was 1 good replacement - but the other dudes completely not for a camera. Not that they were ugly, but because they seemed like they just got out from behind a cube for the first time in 8 years.
firewallx 1 year ago
" The measure of a civilization is how it treats its animals."
" A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest...and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
TheMia168 1 year ago
I kind of have to admit, I think this animal abuse registry is actually a good idea, because at a relatively small annual cost (500K-1mill a year) we can probably save a LOT more by not having to try, prosecute and jail the idiots who abuse animals over and over. If they aren't allowed to have animals in the first place, we won't have to spend money rescuing the animals and then spend a TON more money putting the repeat offenders through the legal system again and again.
JCLFJanet 1 year ago 5
Frankly as cold as this might sound I think this bill is of far more importance than our so called education system...
And a brief glance at most of the negative news broadcast on the air or at a good variety of our "public entertainment" shows can more than speak volumes for where your beloved tax dollars have been going in that regard as is...
Throwing more money away on something that simply either does not want to or merely lacks the capacity to learn is foolishness of the highest order...
SurgicalZeal 1 year ago
California might be a piece of shit right now, but it is still 1000 times BETTER than Detroit!
TheMia168 1 year ago 2
It's fun to have Cenk back, but I liked last week's commentators even better. Keep them around.
audadvnc 1 year ago
Alot of Americans are insane. Taxes in and of themselves are not bad, only badly use taxes are bad. Where did this craziness start about taxes are evil?
bumfire007 1 year ago
Good points. I think that this abusers registery should be implemented and it should be seriously considerd. I agree that if taxes need to be raised, they should incorperate alot of the imidiate costs too, not just the pet abuse registery.
On a simular note as one comment also pointed out, there needs to be a clear line between real abuse and disciplin for pet owners.
Nightmare060 1 year ago
I'm not much of an animal rights activist, but I think this is a great idea. We just need to keep the definition of abuse from expanding too much.
loqutor 1 year ago
Is killing a fly consider animal abuse? is cow sex consider animal abuse? I think we need to stop these animal on animal crimes like we need to stop black on black crime. its okay to have black on white crime
MrRightAllTime 1 year ago
I have to agree with Cenk. If it passes it's really lousy prioritizing.
MrKennyKRH 1 year ago
I have 2 dogs, 2 cats and we (my fam) love them. They are absolutely part of our family. That being said, I HATE PETA and all the pet nazi's who think they are helping anything. These busybodies just love to pretend they are holier than thou. I would love to see them all just go away.
finerbiner 1 year ago
@finerbiner
this bill has nothing to do with PETA. having a registry like this will help society in general...especially law enforcement...the registry will contain a list of potential suspects in unsolved violent crimes...
koala8 1 year ago
@koala8 Maybe not PETA specifically. Animal Nazi's for sure. Progressives think that they can legislate the world's problems away. There is NO proof for this theory. As an example, think of all the disclosures you get in the mail from any mutual fund you own. Every one of these is a progressive response to your right to be well informed. The effect of them is only to make a person more confused. This animal registry will be an ineffective waste of money.
finerbiner 1 year ago
@finerbiner
Legislation doesnt necessarily exist to get rid of the world's problems - that's not its purpose...laws can provide structure/certainty and an authorized system within which things are done...that seems to be what the registry is attempting to do. i.e. provide a system within which animal abusers are prevented from owning animals in the future and provide leads for police in future cases
koala8 1 year ago
@koala8 You want layer upon layer of government and I think that is completely counter productive. We get to disagree in the good old USA. Isn't that great.
PEACE
finerbiner 1 year ago
@finerbiner
even if the registry is not tax funded but funded privately, there still needs to be a legislation to regulate the maintenance of it or else ppl would abuse the system..
koala8 1 year ago
I only watch TYT because of your content delivery style and sarcastic comments
enigmatic1986 1 year ago
Heyyy you are back... I am soo glad... Dont go back :P
enigmatic1986 1 year ago
or they could tax hollywood
DemonicGemini 1 year ago
The pet offender registry is a good idea, the fact remains your priorities are wrong, your people are mentally sick, you need to fix the hearts and minds of the american people.
RedGrobo 1 year ago
Here's an idea, which probably isn't that good. When people are arrested or punished somehow for abusing animals, make them pay a hefty fine, and that money will go towards keeping up this registry. That way, they're basically paying for their own punishment, and it might help keep taxes low. I agree with you guys though, in theory the registry sounds great but is it plausible financially?
pirateslife752 1 year ago
keep it real cenk
f00g3n 1 year ago
Between the ASPCA, PETA, and the millions of pet owners their is no reason why money cant be raised to run this.
Xenite227 1 year ago
waste of fucking money
RollJob88 1 year ago
I don't know I think if this gets through it might lead the way for other bills to follow suit, but its just my idea on it.
GraveDancer14 1 year ago
That's what is wrong with the children, people care more about their damn pets. thing like this should be privately funded.
MissNophi2U 1 year ago
In regards to the California university system, Cenk says: "it's actually in the constitution of California that you're supposed to get a free education", but this is all I could find, and it doesn't seem to apply:
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 9 EDUCATION
SEC. 5. The Legislature shall provide for a system of common schools by which a free school shall be kept up and supported in each district at least six months in every year, after the first year in which a school has been established.
OlSpazzy 1 year ago
people care more about animals than humans
sad
Leadman1989 1 year ago
So how much does it cost to homeschool a child? A few textbooks and some of the parents precious time?
First of all.. ITS YOURRRRRRR CHILD!!! If you want YOUR CHILD to have a good education... SIT DOWN WITH YOURRRR CHILD AND GIVE HIM AN EDUCATION! Spend some time with your kid and teach them what they need to know in life. STOP putting all the blame for your dumbass kids on the public school system.
If youd get off your ass once in a while and open a book, maybe Billy wouldnt be dumb as a rock!
Pozorrogo 1 year ago
not even that here in Florida we have free home schooling over the computer.
D0TperiodD0T 1 year ago
If they pass this legislation but still do not allow people to own ferrets then California is dead to me.
Jeditard 1 year ago
hahaha thats my dude..i love the quote from the 49ers coach in that one.."cant play wit cant win with em"!
jondoe1985 1 year ago
Cenk your clearly still governed by the bibles dominion over animals ideology even when you claim to be atheist. You claim to be a believer of evolution yet you clearly lack the intelligence to understand it's origins.
stupidpplequalstupid 1 year ago
Think of it this way. If they can come together for this, maybe they can come together for other topics as well. Think of it as a baby step to working together to get tax bills passed.
RomeoCo 1 year ago
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Im sorry but people who think animals aka pets n shit are this important need to get a life. I mean I love pets but this is just retarded when we have so much crap to worry about in this life now they are trying to find another way to criminalize someone... using a fuckin pet. Its a fucking animal it will most likely eat your dead ass if locked in a room with you, contrary to a human who can open the fuckin door or call 911. ehhh but then thats the way I look at shizz.
BlackMambakins 1 year ago
Wow, Cenk being gone for a week and then coming back makes it clear just how great of a host he is. He is really.... smooth I guess.
toppless09 1 year ago
People care too much about their god damn pets. Damn, clothes for pets? Special food for pets? What the hell.
YouCanHazReconz 1 year ago
California is not in trouble because of low taxes it is because of high spending low taxes is supposed to signify small govt. a sales tax and the decriminalization of Marijuana along with significant spending cuts in wasteful areas can solve budget problems but high taxes puts more people in need of Govt. assistance which will cause a need for more taxes and so on. How about a National prop 13 that would be sweet
iamsean90 1 year ago
i thought u guys only did weeknights
Standup42003 1 year ago
there are 3 kinds of crimes you have to register for in california
narcotics
arson
sex-relate crimes
182511419139208 1 year ago
yay Cenks back! :D
bitesizepanda 1 year ago
I'm not from America or California for that matter but i think what they are trying to pass is a great idea
mattmax11 1 year ago
TYT=1 talking asshole and 1 talking cunt
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
frictionRx5 1 year ago
@frictionRx5 <-- the farting hemorrhoid is
back. Guess he got tired of the sewer.
menthol5 1 year ago
I think one huge problem with California is these propositions, which means that dumb but popular policies can get passed, like prop 13 and prop 8.
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
Everyone comment with : CENK!!!
dardonZ 1 year ago
Where you have been dude, it was boring without you. don't do it again
tatooo1900 1 year ago 3
This is the new form of segregation. We are now dealing with labeling and separating personalities and types of people. Not that abusing animals is defend-able but people get on this lists that shouldn't be just like we have seen with sexual offenders.
dralezero 1 year ago
Then there needs to be room for an appeal.
AnunnakiPriesthood 1 year ago
So, what happens when a state becomes a green dream like the people advocating for all of this energy control?
It ceases to be industrial, businesses suffer, manufacturing and production of goods and services crash. Production of natural resources crash. Protection of natural resources crash. Welfare roles swell. Government agencies increase their oversight of pretty much everything. California is the archetype.
RomeoMD25 1 year ago
@RomeoMD25 On the other hand, it could lead to new industries opening up, more funding going into furthering related research, and lower production costs so businesses will be able to hire more workers or lower the prices of their goods and services. Who knows?
kakashikamaru 1 year ago
@RomeoMD25 No, industry finds other ways of becoming more efficient. This has happened in Germany and Japan, where the cars have become massively efficient, going a thousand kilometres on a single tank.
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
FFS, why is Cenk always controlling the show. Let ana talk, it was way better when Cenk was away for a few episodes.
I watch the video for the story, then leave because of Cenk.
Fail sense of humor. Fail opinions.
lilzeus7 1 year ago
what are you talking about?
Cenk is why people watch TYT.
Who do you think you are calling other people's opinions "fail"? Its called an opinion for a reason.
Instead of complaining just completely stop watching the show if he bothers you sooo much.
rudewolf89 1 year ago
Ana is why I watch TYT :) I am sure that there are many like me too...
PreetSG 1 year ago
That's why they put that brainless doll in the studio.
zyeahh 1 year ago
Dude, she is not brainless.... She has brains
PreetSG 1 year ago
I agree, I like Cenk, but he always overpowers Ana. I really like Ana too, because she's smart and clever, and differs from Cenk in many ways. I like Cenk, but I would like to hear Ana talk more because these are her stories while he should take the more political... I don't know why you got a thumbs down...
AnunnakiPriesthood 1 year ago
i will pay to get this thing vetoed because that is bull shit!
wilhelmZ2000 1 year ago
If we fine these dirt bags (Abusers), why don't we get the money there, or start charging the dirt bags, fines along with current punishments.
BurlingtonNorthernRy 1 year ago
stupidest thing I've ever herd. this is why the us is in the crap hole!!
wilhelmZ2000 1 year ago
A person who abuses animals will continue to abuse, again and again, unless stopped. A registry would identify them before they have the chance to adopt another animal, in effect, saving the suffering and possibly the life of another innocent life, and Cenk has issue with it?
Ever heard the phrase "what you don't speak out against, you condone"? By being against a possible resolution to this, you're encouraging it. I knew he was a bigot, now I also know he's a scumbag.
ciniful 1 year ago
id say we send all the high school drop outs and those good for nothin "gangsters/cholos" to afghanistan instead of the good kids who actually have a future!
ermacpath 1 year ago
@ermacpath Do you really wanna train those losers how to be better at killing people?
Yerzriknot 1 year ago
That's about what they did in Vietnam. Wasn't that much of a great idea.
pschierhorn 1 year ago
@ermacpath
i think you might have might have brain damage.
GodEnderX 1 year ago
@ermacpath
You are ignorant beyond all measurement.
thatboffjosh 1 year ago
Reckless youth has it completely correct if of course he is referring to you!
upplsuckimcool16 1 year ago
And to your point (although I lower myself by doing this) CONGRATULATIONS!!! You won we DO send the highschool drop outs and gang bangers and the least fortunate to the war already. So happy day for you... Unless yuou want it mandated in which case my response would not be like the one I am giving now.
upplsuckimcool16 1 year ago
Id say labor camps, sending them to Afghanistan would be bad PR. Its not like they could wage a war properly anyway.
tommysch 1 year ago
@ermacpath
How old are you, and did you ever go to highschool or college maybe?
CasualMaggot 1 year ago
HES BACKKKKKKKKKKKK
flowingsolder 1 year ago 11
Yes.......
upplsuckimcool16 1 year ago
I have never felt more disagreement with TYT. Pets are the most vulnerable beings I know of. People that abuse them need to be prevented. To turn our backs is like pretending child molestation doesn't happen. It won't go away by not dealing with it.
menthol5 1 year ago 2
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That's not what their saying in theses times you need to have priorities, saving the mind of a child or the heart of the elderly takes priority over animals I understand your statement but we need priorities
MrShadeBlade 1 year ago
I wouldn't compare animals to humans, not in the least.
Mortello 1 year ago 2
@menthol5 Fully agree
my89tube 1 year ago
they're not saying it's not a good idea, what they're saying is if that's the ONLY thing cali will be raising taxes for, then that's just stupid.
like the list they gave, there are many needs for HUMANS to still be direly addressed.
;d
666norton420 1 year ago
Pets are more vunerable than children? Or the sick? Or the poor? How about poor sick children? You can't raise tax to provide a sick child free healthcare but you can to stop pet abuse?
morganbath 1 year ago
I understand where youre coming from but you cant compare child molestation and the abuse of animals. Animal abuse will always be on the back burner as long as other evils and, unfortunately, high tuitions at universities. It might sound cruel but its the fact of the matter
PepeCris15 1 year ago
Animal abusers often become child abusers and serial killers, if their abusing behaviors are not stopped and punished by the law.
TheMia168 1 year ago
you have to back up claims like that or refrain from making them.
madmoddersparkler 1 year ago
Animal abusers are bullies and cowards who take their issues out on easy victims, and they rarely limit themselves to hurting only animals. Psychiatrists, criminal profilers and law enforcement officials have repeatedly documented that young people who are cruel to animals often turn that violence against humans.
TheMia168 1 year ago 3
@TheMia168
Agreed.
Cenek is just being an ass again.
Somtimes he has some things worth listening to to say, somtimes not.
This is one of the latter.
SinnFein4ever 1 year ago
Cruelty to animals appears in the histories of all our nations serial killers and tragic school shooters. The FBI uses reports of cruelty to animals to gauge the threat potential of known criminals.
Its vital that people who hurt animals receive intervention, including counseling and a ban on contact with animals, to prevent their violence from continuing.
TheMia168 1 year ago 3
Animal abusers often escalate to preying on humans.
ALL serial killers started off abusing animals.
In the 1970s research into prisoner profiles found a strong link between serial killers and a history of cruelty to animals. More recent studies into current and past cases have confirmed the link. Retrospective studies of the life of convicted sadistic murderers and serial murderers showed a startling proportion of those murderers had a history of animal abuse, often starting in childhood.
TheMia168 1 year ago 15
@TheMia168 - Not all serial killers start off abusing animals. In fact, abusing animals is only 1 of 3 main indicators of a future serial killer. Most serial killers only display 2 of the 3 traits(the others being a pyromaniac and having prolonged bed-wetting.) To say that this registry would prevent a serial-killer is ridiculous. While there is a correlation, it's not a fool-proof one. There's definetly some holes in your logic.
rachranchy 1 year ago
@rachranchy: There is a hole alright, that is, you are a fucking asshole. So, shut it.
TheMia168 1 year ago
The roll call of internationally infamous killers includes Jeffrey Dahmer, Milwaukee's cannibal killer of 16 young men; Albert deSalvo, the Boston Strangler, who murdered 13 women; David Berkowitz, the Son of Sam; (to be continue)
TheMia168 1 year ago