No. Molto meglio Richter. Qui non vengono rispettate le indicazioni dell'autore, gli accenti sono stravolti. Si perdono migliaia di note a causa della velocità.
It's weird, you hear about all the most famous pianists - Horowitz, Richter, Argerich, Ashkenazy, Rubinstein - and then you find there's this huge undercurrent of lesser-known pianists who are in many ways just as good. Katchen; De Larrocha's another one; they're just not as famous for some odd reason. I think I need to get this guy's Brahms set.
Richter too slow - overly romanticized (almost in a Cliburn-like way). Katchen Brahms is incomparable, however, Gould's Brahms MUST be taken very seriously as well.
I like Richter's version better too, but this is a very interesting one.. If Katchen played it like Richter, I'd be bored, cause I heard that version a zilion times
Julius Katchen is great in his own right of course, but I am not his biggest fan I guess.. Matter of taste
Martha Argerich on Chopin's Preludes (1970's) and Ignaz Friedman on Mazurkas played much more fastely. They are acclaimed on our days. I never saw anyone hate this performances (obviously too fast) or gives a bad comment. Is very important for a performer find a new skill of the composition. I hate JUST performances with the sheet music.
I prefer Richter's version of that sonata, really it is too fast here. No matter that it is 'early' Brahms. You need speed and show-off skills for Liszt, but Brahm's philosophic music is very very far away from such things. Of course, Katchen is a great virtuoso, but music is not only virtuosity...
This is very showy and flashy...early Brahms,I guess. rather immature. I am not very convinced by this performance. Maybe I don't really like the piece!
allegro energico MA NON TROPPO. This is certainly too fast! Brahms originally intended this movement to be slower than that. Nevertheless, the clearness of this performance and its technical brillance are outstanding.
Just wonderful!!! Katchen shows a new way, a new world on this very inspirated performance. Too fast? Yes, but like the spirit of a young Brahms. Agitato. Unfortunately, the second movement is not completed.
The tempo would be quick if it would not be convincingly played, but here a character of youthful passion is reflected, therefore the tempo is perfectly appropriate.
I agree completely. I think Katchen gets the spirit of this music. You can play late Brahms as adagio as you want, but this early stuff is pure adrenaline!
and i think so(look in the comment before,sorry), because i think brahms would have wanted it to be played not so fast.he played it the first time at Franz Liszt's house in Weimar and Franz Liszt said it was too slow.and our example here is played very fast. so i think if brahms played it there too slow for liszt(and he didnt like him tooo much), then i think he(brahms himself) played it slower, just as claudio arrau
wow, what the hell is this? i hear this sonata , played by claudio arrau. and this one here is played much more swiftly almost too hastily, i think.i think arrau is better.
Katchen's recording on London is a little less rushed while still being tremendously exuberant. That's the recording that got me both into Katchen and Brahms 2nd sonata. I never saw him though --- thanks SO much for posting!!
I guess in classical music you can never "surpass" the stars before you, but there will certainly be new ones of whom the fans of their generation will say the exact same thing, only then will we know who they are - or rather, were
I do not agree with you. I feel oneself closer of the Katchen's view about Brahms performance than the whole pianists ,formers and news.... but I agree with you, my post ist not objective, it's just a point of view. Only Johannes could say what the good performance will be....( sorry for my bad english...).
This sonata gets me always since hearing Arrau .third sonata better work but leaves me unaffected except for intermezzo and Andante.2nd sonata every bar gets me.I can follow it .
Katchen está entre los grandes.Tan solo por su excelente grabación de la integral de Brahms merece estarlo.Un gran músico por su técnica unida a su gran sensibilidad. Todo un ejemplo.
It's playing of this order that wld dispel any reservations about Brahms dense piano sonatas, spanning the spectrum of piano works beginning with Scarlatti's, as being rather forbidding.
No. Molto meglio Richter. Qui non vengono rispettate le indicazioni dell'autore, gli accenti sono stravolti. Si perdono migliaia di note a causa della velocità.
anmusic48 8 months ago
It's weird, you hear about all the most famous pianists - Horowitz, Richter, Argerich, Ashkenazy, Rubinstein - and then you find there's this huge undercurrent of lesser-known pianists who are in many ways just as good. Katchen; De Larrocha's another one; they're just not as famous for some odd reason. I think I need to get this guy's Brahms set.
BenMcCormack91 9 months ago
beautiful but sound is not as beautiful as in Richter's performances; systematically R's sound is deeper and more singing
francorussie2 1 year ago
@francorussie2 Do you even know what "systematically" means?
sshuck 1 year ago
i prefer katchen's interpretation more than richter's but i wish it was a little bit slower... but not as slow as richter's
twilight8love 1 year ago
Richter too slow - overly romanticized (almost in a Cliburn-like way). Katchen Brahms is incomparable, however, Gould's Brahms MUST be taken very seriously as well.
rightman220 1 year ago
best interpretation on youtube...and I LOVE Richter, but this is just great!
4444matthew4444 2 years ago
I like Richter's version better too, but this is a very interesting one.. If Katchen played it like Richter, I'd be bored, cause I heard that version a zilion times
Julius Katchen is great in his own right of course, but I am not his biggest fan I guess.. Matter of taste
quinto34 2 years ago
I prefer Richter performance
AnnMarry19 2 years ago
Oh wow, I've been hearing someone practice snippets of this piece for ages, and now I finally know what they come from.
lilly763 2 years ago
Cutting off the 2nd movement like that is pure evil.
enricoI 2 years ago 8
agreed
Irelandlass7789 2 years ago
Martha Argerich on Chopin's Preludes (1970's) and Ignaz Friedman on Mazurkas played much more fastely. They are acclaimed on our days. I never saw anyone hate this performances (obviously too fast) or gives a bad comment. Is very important for a performer find a new skill of the composition. I hate JUST performances with the sheet music.
polskaczech 3 years ago
I prefer Richter's version of that sonata, really it is too fast here. No matter that it is 'early' Brahms. You need speed and show-off skills for Liszt, but Brahm's philosophic music is very very far away from such things. Of course, Katchen is a great virtuoso, but music is not only virtuosity...
jaroussky1 3 years ago 2
@jaroussky1 yes I agree 100 %
AnnMarry19 2 years ago
This is very showy and flashy...early Brahms,I guess. rather immature. I am not very convinced by this performance. Maybe I don't really like the piece!
cynic150 3 years ago
here brahms sounds like prokofieff! :(((
kajohada 3 years ago
Touché!! This Sonata by Katchen lives on 2 times.
polskaczech 3 years ago 3
allegro energico MA NON TROPPO. This is certainly too fast! Brahms originally intended this movement to be slower than that. Nevertheless, the clearness of this performance and its technical brillance are outstanding.
GLRTE 3 years ago
Just wonderful!!! Katchen shows a new way, a new world on this very inspirated performance. Too fast? Yes, but like the spirit of a young Brahms. Agitato. Unfortunately, the second movement is not completed.
polskaczech 3 years ago 2
Ohhh... This is quite an engeniuos sonata, I had to study it recently... Quite spify. Gotta love the expositions.
beryllium2 3 years ago 2
The tempo would be quick if it would not be convincingly played, but here a character of youthful passion is reflected, therefore the tempo is perfectly appropriate.
kusuna7 3 years ago 2
I agree completely. I think Katchen gets the spirit of this music. You can play late Brahms as adagio as you want, but this early stuff is pure adrenaline!
despina41 3 years ago
No matter how hard I try I can't play it that fast. :[
PsychedelicLou 3 years ago
I can't listening to this! It's tooooo fast form me. I don' understand what is he playing about.... Sorry..
kalabus25 3 years ago
Thanks for posting! great sonata and great performance.
sbcpianist 3 years ago 4
tinkle the ivory's
gmspeedfreak 3 years ago
and i think so(look in the comment before,sorry), because i think brahms would have wanted it to be played not so fast.he played it the first time at Franz Liszt's house in Weimar and Franz Liszt said it was too slow.and our example here is played very fast. so i think if brahms played it there too slow for liszt(and he didnt like him tooo much), then i think he(brahms himself) played it slower, just as claudio arrau
bayern2007xcx 3 years ago
wow, what the hell is this? i hear this sonata , played by claudio arrau. and this one here is played much more swiftly almost too hastily, i think.i think arrau is better.
bayern2007xcx 3 years ago
Katchen's recording on London is a little less rushed while still being tremendously exuberant. That's the recording that got me both into Katchen and Brahms 2nd sonata. I never saw him though --- thanks SO much for posting!!
sshuck 3 years ago
Franchement qui de nos jours a surpassé Katchen dans l'interprétation des oeuvres de Brahms ?? personne !
nelassov 3 years ago
I guess in classical music you can never "surpass" the stars before you, but there will certainly be new ones of whom the fans of their generation will say the exact same thing, only then will we know who they are - or rather, were
xAmandine 3 years ago
I do not agree with you. I feel oneself closer of the Katchen's view about Brahms performance than the whole pianists ,formers and news.... but I agree with you, my post ist not objective, it's just a point of view. Only Johannes could say what the good performance will be....( sorry for my bad english...).
nelassov 3 years ago
This sonata gets me always since hearing Arrau .third sonata better work but leaves me unaffected except for intermezzo and Andante.2nd sonata every bar gets me.I can follow it .
lovesGenet 3 years ago
Dear Klassikfan,
Thank you so much for this, it was a revelation! I am forever ingratiated to you!
musicistablu 4 years ago
Yes, he's amazing. Does anyone by chance have a video of him playing any of the Brahms violin-piano sonatas with Josef Suk?
SLOKO970 4 years ago
Katchen está entre los grandes.Tan solo por su excelente grabación de la integral de Brahms merece estarlo.Un gran músico por su técnica unida a su gran sensibilidad. Todo un ejemplo.
bortkievitch 4 years ago
Great, he does every justice to this sonata.
suzettegm 4 years ago
More of this please!
unsichtbar007 4 years ago
It's playing of this order that wld dispel any reservations about Brahms dense piano sonatas, spanning the spectrum of piano works beginning with Scarlatti's, as being rather forbidding.
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301250 4 years ago 2
What a pity, part of the second mvmt. is missing, it was absolutely breathtaking...
pianopera 4 years ago
Rare video!! Thanks!!
skyblue999 4 years ago 2
this is absoloutley out of this world performance.thanks
chad410 4 years ago 2