Valerie was both highly important and a destroyer...her voice was necessary even if extreme. A necessity to the movement! She stirred things up and said things many others in the women's movement was too afraid to say in the desire to smooth things over with the opposition...please come up with a different kind of criticism for a change...one that hasn't already been stated and restated in a way over all radicals, hateful in their speech or not.
"radical" is always labeled mentally ill. I don't see that some of her ideas weren't promoted by other and sometimes completely opposite people. It's just her delivery that makes it so much worth it.
I am a male, and I read her manifesto. strangely I find my self very attracted to her way of writing but I know not to take her hateful remarks seriously :-) oh and we are all equal here, men and female, but maybe "some of us are more equal than others" lol jk
I've read this bigot's manifesto. It's nothing more than the psychotic ravings of a seriously mentally ill person. Because of her multiple mental illnesses and delusions, she can be forgiven. What's frightening is apparently perfectly sane people read it and agree. She and those like her have done more harm to feminism than any elitist, sexist man could ever dream of doing.
@CaptainSmallFoot Well said. I find it very difficult to blame her for what she did: She was obviously a very ill woman. But the fact that the likes of those one radfemhub see it as some kind of legitimate political statement shows that these aren't simply marginal ravings. Theres actually a base of support for this kind of hate speech.
She's portrayed as eccentric, whimsical and street-smart (would you agree?). If I were a teenage girl this character would appeal to me much in the same way as Sal from On The Road did.
@Alos21 I dont think all lesbians are angry, its wrong to think that for some people that do somethings everybody does them (im mexican dont know how to write english very well) But its a movie of a revolucionary women of her time, she didn't give a fuck, she express her inconformism, i like her and im not lesbian or an angry women.
@ganjahnnabis she was a bit nuts,hand on heart...but anyways I agree with you on all the other counts! all the lesbian chicks I know are angry as fuck and I always get questions from my point of view,so if I offended you in any way I apologise !....you have a great taste in music btw and your english is great ;)
@Alos21 You didn't offended me, its good to share points of view, i get questions and agression too sometimes, because im feminist and most of the people think im lesbian or a women that hate guys jajajaja... have a good day!
but fucking think about it, how many women (girls) do you know that have been mollested, abused, raped, etc, a whole fucking lot. Men are not completely functional as humans emotionally, they do not understand the impact of their actions. Its something women choose to ignore because we are hetero, but if we band together and help each other out, we can change all of this.
@Smellycats4eva True. All men do that, rapes and kill and torture bla bla bla...Thats who we are and we love it. No thats not true we cant love because we have no feelings. Now go kill your sons and be a feminist.....
Qué mujer tan original en su forma de plasmar sus sentimientos. Curiosa la coherencia de su discurso, la fluidez de su intención. Como se decía en una película acerca del arte moderno de una época en particular, diría que esta mujer tiene mucho de verdad, más que de lógica. Me agrada Valerie.
FUCK VALERIE SOLANIS! DON'T YOU JUST LOVE FUCK-UPS WHOSE CLAIM TO FAME IS OTHER PEOPLE PAIN, ESP THOSE WHO ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTED TO CULTURE WITH A RICH BODY OF WORK...FUCK HER MANIFESTO WHICH SHE SUCESSFULLY TARNISHED BY THIS SENSELESS SHOOTING- SOCIETY FOR CUTTING UP MEN?....nice
@SandozSaxonWilliams ,,American people is so Stupid, so blind. Warhol is invisible, no trnsmit to artistic sensitivity. Solans can do it. Not is a scientific theory, is literature. USA is a dumb country. You are a blind insect for me.
Simply put, men are human beings created equally as women. Not problems that should be removed from the face of the earth.
If a women hates a man, she is no different than a sexist man who hates a women. SO LET'S JUST END SEXISM BY EACH GENDER LIKING EACH OTHER EQUALLY! Unlike Valerie Solanas who had an incorrect bias against men.
@JoshuaAaron13 Incorrect bias?? She was f**king raped by her own father!!! And excuse me, you don't really hear about women raping men... Oh wait! That's cause they don't! (Or to be precise, the rate is far,far less than the men's rate) Do you honestly expect women to just erase all these years of countless misogyny and prejudice? It's not that simple. Definitely not.
@JoshuaAaron13 Out of 100 rape cases, 1-3 are women raping men. And Valerie had gone through such a HORRIBLE (the most terrible of all) experience, so you can't blame her. Men can not understand what effect a rape can have on a woman, the full atrocity of such an action. It is easy for you to speak, but you can't understand. I agree that you can't judge an entire species over what one man did. But if you've been raped, you are allowed to hate it.
Women get away with sexism all the time and if a man make a sexist joke, you are the bad person, double standard much? Of course, all the people that agree with Valarie Solanas are no different than people who genuinely get pleasure for inflicting pain on others, sadists, even rewarding themselves for perpetuating it as well.
@karlsmith00 Oh sure, and what are you basing this on? How do we have it easier? As far as I'm concerned, men have the more difficult jobs and also the most job related deaths, and that's verifiable facts.
@anikinippon that's because males are reckless and stupid, and don't have any risk awareness. lots of job-related deaths are related to alcohol and drug use on the job, look at the statistics.
now i'm supposed to feel sorry for dumb guys who do stupid things while they're drunk on the job? like i said, go cry about it. if they had more common sense, they would die less. that's not my problem.
@karlsmith00 Ah, see, and there are your true colors. If I were to say say the same thing in the reverse for women about how stupid women are for not finding jobs that pay well because they tend to children so much and I wouldn't feel sorry for them, I'll bet you would have a different reaction. My point is your sexist arguments are pointless because you are putting a lot of assumptions based on the alone gender, nothing more than what the Nazi's said about Jews and Saddam said about the Kurds.
@anikinippon no you fat bitch. you have no point. that's the problem. yet that doesn't stop you from running your mouth, does it? lack of information never stopped a man from talking.
sorry you missed my point. now shut up and find a job. men need to be kept busy with manual labor, and need to stay off the computer where they just cause problems.
Yes shes a terrorist and "definetely" not a feminist so NOW(national organization for women) which btw is the larges feminist org in america wouldnt say anything nice about her right?
Wrong NOW hailed her as a “champion of women’s rights.” Florynce Kennedy, a NOW activist, represented her at trial(after she attempted to murder Andy Warhol) and declared her “one of the most important spokeswomen of the feminist movement.”
So all of these lies about her not being a feminist is...well BS
Valerie Solanas was not a hero, or a feminist. She was a misandric terrorist who even tried to kill Andy Warhol. Anyone who idolizes her is idolizing the main image of terrorism.
The angry feminist stereotype (which, if you were treated the way women were/are, you'd be angry, too) certainly wasn't helped with her shooting Warhol. I'm not saying she was right at all but she was actually an intelligent, insightful, humorous person. She was also very mentally ill. Andy Warhol could be considering just as crazy for using poop to paint on canvasses. and the like.
It is literary satire. She is angry, but she is selling this SCUM to people, then a man actually steals it, and wham-mo, she made her point. So she spent three years, we could all do that, just for one bad day. Life Stinks. She wrote well. I don't think she was all that crazy, just eccentric.
The only reason we are even writing about this person by the way. She couldn't get famous any other way than shooting people, and anyone who supports her supports violence and is no better than any man that ever waged wars.
One time Warhol actually called her a "disgusting dyke" (he just saw her walking while he was having lunch or something and saw her) and when she proceeded to explain the sexual abuse she experienced as a child (which doesn't happen to all lesbians but obviously shows she was at least very self-aware), he mocked her.
@harveybacon It stops being satire when two people get shot.
The only reason we are even writing about this person by the way. She couldn't get famous any other way than shooting people, and anyone who supports her supports violence and is no better than any man that ever waged wars.
i would just like to know what her fucking deal really was, and see if she'd be irritated with me like she was with other people. any mentally twisted deranged lunatic 'writer' can be interesting to me.
Well her deal was simply taking out her childhood traumas on all men. And that thing she wrote is nothing more than misandric hate speech, written manifestation of a serious psycological anomaly. Nothing special about it really. it doesn't even have any literary value..
@AlexGruev I think you're right, but I can't really judge her for the way she reacted to her experiences. She is held up by some as a feminist icon though, and that's a good enough reason for me to assert that men can't be feminists.
@prschuster you shame yourself with comments like this. Look at the life of a man like Stephen Lewis, then tell me a man "can't be a feminist". Shame on you.
@KgirlHasTheWits
Valerie was both highly important and a destroyer...her voice was necessary even if extreme. A necessity to the movement! She stirred things up and said things many others in the women's movement was too afraid to say in the desire to smooth things over with the opposition...please come up with a different kind of criticism for a change...one that hasn't already been stated and restated in a way over all radicals, hateful in their speech or not.
LexFeather 2 days ago
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LexFeather 2 days ago
Around 6:01 is what I came here for...
"radical" is always labeled mentally ill. I don't see that some of her ideas weren't promoted by other and sometimes completely opposite people. It's just her delivery that makes it so much worth it.
LexFeather 2 days ago
I am a male, and I read her manifesto. strangely I find my self very attracted to her way of writing but I know not to take her hateful remarks seriously :-) oh and we are all equal here, men and female, but maybe "some of us are more equal than others" lol jk
arazz09 1 month ago
I've read this bigot's manifesto. It's nothing more than the psychotic ravings of a seriously mentally ill person. Because of her multiple mental illnesses and delusions, she can be forgiven. What's frightening is apparently perfectly sane people read it and agree. She and those like her have done more harm to feminism than any elitist, sexist man could ever dream of doing.
CaptainSmallFoot 2 months ago
@CaptainSmallFoot Well said. I find it very difficult to blame her for what she did: She was obviously a very ill woman. But the fact that the likes of those one radfemhub see it as some kind of legitimate political statement shows that these aren't simply marginal ravings. Theres actually a base of support for this kind of hate speech.
theicychameleon 2 months ago
If she is good for gender equality and women's rights, than so is Aileen Wuornos.
ianman6 2 months ago
She's portrayed as eccentric, whimsical and street-smart (would you agree?). If I were a teenage girl this character would appeal to me much in the same way as Sal from On The Road did.
Lovetricity 3 months ago
How was Valerie's play worse from the crap that Andy and his Factory people made and they called that crap movies?
ChrissieBana 3 months ago
why are all lesbians angry?
Alos21 4 months ago
@Alos21 I dont think all lesbians are angry, its wrong to think that for some people that do somethings everybody does them (im mexican dont know how to write english very well) But its a movie of a revolucionary women of her time, she didn't give a fuck, she express her inconformism, i like her and im not lesbian or an angry women.
ganjahnnabis 2 months ago
@ganjahnnabis she was a bit nuts,hand on heart...but anyways I agree with you on all the other counts! all the lesbian chicks I know are angry as fuck and I always get questions from my point of view,so if I offended you in any way I apologise !....you have a great taste in music btw and your english is great ;)
Alos21 2 months ago
@Alos21 You didn't offended me, its good to share points of view, i get questions and agression too sometimes, because im feminist and most of the people think im lesbian or a women that hate guys jajajaja... have a good day!
ganjahnnabis 2 months ago
but fucking think about it, how many women (girls) do you know that have been mollested, abused, raped, etc, a whole fucking lot. Men are not completely functional as humans emotionally, they do not understand the impact of their actions. Its something women choose to ignore because we are hetero, but if we band together and help each other out, we can change all of this.
Smellycats4eva 5 months ago
@Smellycats4eva True. All men do that, rapes and kill and torture bla bla bla...Thats who we are and we love it. No thats not true we cant love because we have no feelings. Now go kill your sons and be a feminist.....
matseman46 3 months ago
@Smellycats4eva whaaaa?
semiflex 2 months ago
SOMEBODY HAD SOME DADDY ISSUES!
madcapoperator 5 months ago
crazy bitch.
lovellespice 6 months ago
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I wanna see this movie... :)
babylelo123 8 months ago
What-a-nut-case.
francishamilton26 8 months ago
Powerful movie !
darlinkula1 8 months ago
Crazies like her give the women's rights movement a terrible name. Valerie Solanas is to feminism as Osama Bin Laden is to Islam.
KgirlHasTheWits 8 months ago 10
Crazy bitch, had a messed up childhood so wants to associate all males with men who abused her.
Indigo656 9 months ago 3
Imagine that, a feminist who hates sex
anikinippon 9 months ago 2
the actor reminds me of Cate Blanchett as Jude Quinn in Im Not There.
in other words, fucking amazing......
DrowningArt94 11 months ago
@DrowningArt94 Yeah, Lili Taylor is an amazing actress and very underrated too.
Mr1991ladarius 11 months ago
She seems like a nice enough girl, but I don't think she'd be much fun at parties.
prschuster 1 year ago
listen man...im fucking tired...dont bring me down...strangely that is not
SandozSaxonWilliams 1 year ago
Qué mujer tan original en su forma de plasmar sus sentimientos. Curiosa la coherencia de su discurso, la fluidez de su intención. Como se decía en una película acerca del arte moderno de una época en particular, diría que esta mujer tiene mucho de verdad, más que de lógica. Me agrada Valerie.
francisvilll 1 year ago
So I can write violent hate-speech, slap the satire label on it and be called brilliant for it? Cool!
nightmareofsolomon 1 year ago
Is she serious... 'cause if this is satire I didn't get the punch line.
prschuster 1 year ago
FUCK VALERIE SOLANIS! DON'T YOU JUST LOVE FUCK-UPS WHOSE CLAIM TO FAME IS OTHER PEOPLE PAIN, ESP THOSE WHO ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTED TO CULTURE WITH A RICH BODY OF WORK...FUCK HER MANIFESTO WHICH SHE SUCESSFULLY TARNISHED BY THIS SENSELESS SHOOTING- SOCIETY FOR CUTTING UP MEN?....nice
otherwise, great movie, esp Nico
SandozSaxonWilliams 1 year ago 2
To an Idiot SandozSaxonWilliams: You are a fag. a pour and a few man. A fag. Un hombre que o acepte todas estas cosas que dice Valerie, es un marica.
francisvilll 1 year ago
@francisvilll
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I was going to lower myself to even write you a reply but ill quote from the beautiful pete townshend: LETS FORGET YOU BETTER STILL.
PS....lighten up francis
SandozSaxonWilliams 1 year ago
@SandozSaxonWilliams ,,American people is so Stupid, so blind. Warhol is invisible, no trnsmit to artistic sensitivity. Solans can do it. Not is a scientific theory, is literature. USA is a dumb country. You are a blind insect for me.
francisvilll 1 year ago
It's kind of a sad story. She is obviously mentally ill.
Hopefully her message of hate will dissolve away as it continues to be irrelevant.
SirKnightErrant 1 year ago
Simply put, men are human beings created equally as women. Not problems that should be removed from the face of the earth.
If a women hates a man, she is no different than a sexist man who hates a women. SO LET'S JUST END SEXISM BY EACH GENDER LIKING EACH OTHER EQUALLY! Unlike Valerie Solanas who had an incorrect bias against men.
JoshuaAaron13 1 year ago
@JoshuaAaron13 Incorrect bias?? She was f**king raped by her own father!!! And excuse me, you don't really hear about women raping men... Oh wait! That's cause they don't! (Or to be precise, the rate is far,far less than the men's rate) Do you honestly expect women to just erase all these years of countless misogyny and prejudice? It's not that simple. Definitely not.
silanthaler 1 year ago
@silanthaler
Just this month I saw a girl on the news being held before a jury for raping several children sadly.
Wait a minute Valerie was raped 0_o!?!?!?! Well that explains it all! Now wonder she hated men.
Nevertheless, you can't judge an entire species over what one man did.
JoshuaAaron13 1 year ago
@JoshuaAaron13 Out of 100 rape cases, 1-3 are women raping men. And Valerie had gone through such a HORRIBLE (the most terrible of all) experience, so you can't blame her. Men can not understand what effect a rape can have on a woman, the full atrocity of such an action. It is easy for you to speak, but you can't understand. I agree that you can't judge an entire species over what one man did. But if you've been raped, you are allowed to hate it.
silanthaler 1 year ago
@silanthaler yes, but you can't then objectify men as a symbol of rape just because some sick, callous person/people did it to you.
zehrinteressant 1 year ago
@silanthaler Yeah men can't understand it, cause most of us aren't rapists
dubified89 1 year ago 2
@silanthaler No, you're not. Nothing excuses logical fallacies. Nothing excuses intellectual laziness. Nothing excuses shoddy thinking.
unhealthytruthseeker 1 year ago
@silanthaler This woman is no champion of your cause.
YoungEscapist 8 months ago
she turned out to be right. look at the world today. we need more women like her.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
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troublename 1 year ago
Women get away with sexism all the time and if a man make a sexist joke, you are the bad person, double standard much? Of course, all the people that agree with Valarie Solanas are no different than people who genuinely get pleasure for inflicting pain on others, sadists, even rewarding themselves for perpetuating it as well.
anikinippon 1 year ago
@anikinippon waahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...go cry about it.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 I don't have to, most people already dismiss her claims as sexist anyways.
anikinippon 1 year ago
@anikinippon i really care what most people do. most people watch dancing with the stars and are entertained.
i think males have had it and still have it just a BIT easier. so calm down and stop crying. she was right, end of story
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 Oh sure, and what are you basing this on? How do we have it easier? As far as I'm concerned, men have the more difficult jobs and also the most job related deaths, and that's verifiable facts.
anikinippon 1 year ago
@anikinippon that's because males are reckless and stupid, and don't have any risk awareness. lots of job-related deaths are related to alcohol and drug use on the job, look at the statistics.
now i'm supposed to feel sorry for dumb guys who do stupid things while they're drunk on the job? like i said, go cry about it. if they had more common sense, they would die less. that's not my problem.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 Ah, see, and there are your true colors. If I were to say say the same thing in the reverse for women about how stupid women are for not finding jobs that pay well because they tend to children so much and I wouldn't feel sorry for them, I'll bet you would have a different reaction. My point is your sexist arguments are pointless because you are putting a lot of assumptions based on the alone gender, nothing more than what the Nazi's said about Jews and Saddam said about the Kurds.
anikinippon 1 year ago
@anikinippon yeah i know. someone who points out men do stupid things especially while drunk is the same as exterminating millions of people.
idiot. when people have no argument, they have to start crying about nazis. just shut up.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 Yea because PEOPLE do stupid things when drunk, sorry you missed the point.
anikinippon 1 year ago
@anikinippon no you fat bitch. you have no point. that's the problem. yet that doesn't stop you from running your mouth, does it? lack of information never stopped a man from talking.
sorry you missed my point. now shut up and find a job. men need to be kept busy with manual labor, and need to stay off the computer where they just cause problems.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 Smooth, losing it over comments on the internet and then making it seem like having the last word "wins" the argument.
anikinippon 1 year ago
Yes shes a terrorist and "definetely" not a feminist so NOW(national organization for women) which btw is the larges feminist org in america wouldnt say anything nice about her right?
Wrong NOW hailed her as a “champion of women’s rights.” Florynce Kennedy, a NOW activist, represented her at trial(after she attempted to murder Andy Warhol) and declared her “one of the most important spokeswomen of the feminist movement.”
So all of these lies about her not being a feminist is...well BS
trueswordsexpert0909 1 year ago
Valerie Solanas was not a hero, or a feminist. She was a terrorist.
minamu8 1 year ago
Valerie Solanas was not a hero, or a feminist. She was a misandric terrorist who even tried to kill Andy Warhol. Anyone who idolizes her is idolizing the main image of terrorism.
minamu8 1 year ago
she was such an asshole
Vesters1 1 year ago
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troublename 1 year ago
@troublename Congrats. I hope you rot in hell.:)
watchmyvids3 1 year ago
she sounds like a rather sad woman,i beileve what you might term a looser.
soledweller 1 year ago
Wow, while I don't agree with her on everything, I find her amazingly intriguing. She raises powerful questions.
dizzirt 1 year ago
The angry feminist stereotype (which, if you were treated the way women were/are, you'd be angry, too) certainly wasn't helped with her shooting Warhol. I'm not saying she was right at all but she was actually an intelligent, insightful, humorous person. She was also very mentally ill. Andy Warhol could be considering just as crazy for using poop to paint on canvasses. and the like.
KlonopinSaves 2 years ago
actually, her name is Lily Tomelin
TrishaBoop 2 years ago
I wish I could have met her (after screening by metal detectors and strip-search by hot lesbian security guards of her choice.)
WholeLottaGreer 2 years ago
Very funny !!..:-))
DYLAND28 2 years ago
The pervert reminds me of Randy Quaid.
VitoPossilipo 2 years ago
It is literary satire. She is angry, but she is selling this SCUM to people, then a man actually steals it, and wham-mo, she made her point. So she spent three years, we could all do that, just for one bad day. Life Stinks. She wrote well. I don't think she was all that crazy, just eccentric.
harveybacon 2 years ago 2
That's right...I think the same thing....Thanks
DYLAND28 2 years ago
@DYLAND28 it stops being "satire" when two people get shot.
johnnyreality 1 year ago 2
It stops being satire when two people get shot.
The only reason we are even writing about this person by the way. She couldn't get famous any other way than shooting people, and anyone who supports her supports violence and is no better than any man that ever waged wars.
johnnyreality 1 year ago 24
You're an idiot.
kbarry87 2 years ago
One time Warhol actually called her a "disgusting dyke" (he just saw her walking while he was having lunch or something and saw her) and when she proceeded to explain the sexual abuse she experienced as a child (which doesn't happen to all lesbians but obviously shows she was at least very self-aware), he mocked her.
KlonopinSaves 2 years ago
@harveybacon Literary satire? Yeah, and Hitler was only being ironic in Mein Kampf about the jews.
SpazzzDog 1 year ago
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@harveybacon It stops being satire when two people get shot.
The only reason we are even writing about this person by the way. She couldn't get famous any other way than shooting people, and anyone who supports her supports violence and is no better than any man that ever waged wars.
johnnyreality 1 year ago
she was a real fuckin' psycho-path, I can't believe some people look up to that fucker.
tickedoffnow 2 years ago
valerie solanas. one chick i woulda love to known in my life.
moonbaby77 2 years ago
Really? What do you find so interesting about a mentally twisted deranged lesbian lunatic :)))
AlexGruev 2 years ago
i would just like to know what her fucking deal really was, and see if she'd be irritated with me like she was with other people. any mentally twisted deranged lunatic 'writer' can be interesting to me.
moonbaby77 2 years ago 3
Well her deal was simply taking out her childhood traumas on all men. And that thing she wrote is nothing more than misandric hate speech, written manifestation of a serious psycological anomaly. Nothing special about it really. it doesn't even have any literary value..
AlexGruev 2 years ago 19
@AlexGruev A perfect analysis of this person, I completely agree.
zehrinteressant 1 year ago
@AlexGruev I think you're right, but I can't really judge her for the way she reacted to her experiences. She is held up by some as a feminist icon though, and that's a good enough reason for me to assert that men can't be feminists.
prschuster 1 year ago
@prschuster
Only mentally ill people hold other mentally ill people as "icons" :)
AlexGruev 1 year ago 2
@AlexGruev Sadly, there are a lot of normal people who unwittingly idolize mentally ill people..
prschuster 1 year ago
@prschuster you shame yourself with comments like this. Look at the life of a man like Stephen Lewis, then tell me a man "can't be a feminist". Shame on you.
YoungEscapist 8 months ago
You forgot to mention fantastic writer, buddo. :)
circethesorceress 2 years ago
Well if you are interested in that kind of "writers" you can always find them in any kind of radical extremist groups and mental insitutions :)))
AlexGruev 2 years ago
What´s wrong about lesbians?
VitoPossilipo 2 years ago
I love her
TheAgnes111 2 years ago