Brzenk vs Fisher 8/22/09 T.O.C. www.ArmWrestlingMachine.com

[Motivation1993]

fucking hell have i seen bullshit on here, vevoda has age and wieght on john whereas experience is on johns side, the only thing that would make the match even against said opponents is age, if they were the same age john would win hands down, this guy pulls young guys in their prime, john is the greatest armwrestler and will remain so for an extremely long time, no one can match what he has done for the sport and what he has earnt within the sport... legend and always will be... john brzenk

[digitalridah]

I think larrat would beat VoeVoda

[RHO1953]

He's big, he's strong, he's young. That can't be denied, but look at what Brzenk has done for decades. It is unmatched in sports. Nothing to even compare it to.

[calipso564]

Voevoda has been the best for 1 day, that's all.

He lost to travis right handed at world in the same year, everything that surround this guy is hype by some kind of retarded kids on the internet.

John has been the best for decades...

Voe

[RHO1953]

Voevoda has at least seventy pounds on John. Even given that, John would have owned him in his prime. 

[NOTguineapigeon]

@RHO1953 Voevoda did steroids! 

[redhenryrepeater]

@NOTguineapigeon proof?

[NOTguineapigeon]

@redhenryrepeater I have none, but after he lost to Travis Begent(who I believe is yet to beat John) the first time, he still did the same training and when he rematched against Travis, he won more easily than he should of, and when Voevoda went up against John, John got an injury in the previous match, so it wasn't even fair. Plus he is huge! And why did he leave arm wrestling so soon? And do you have any proof that he isn't on steroids?(Which is a douche bag question, but I still must ask)

[Casey9784]

@redhenryrepeater alexy is also 20 years younger

[M747202172763]

This probably reminds Brzenk of the time he broke his arm against his father's friend as a young kid. No way he was going to lose this though.

[Sanukriyuka]

natural(yellow) vs roids(blue)

[RcUniverseGuy]

@Sanukriyuka steroids??? thats fuckin John brzenk hes a beast if you didn't already know... its not all about strength its about tricks and secrets and john knows them all no amount of steroids could make up for that.

[LlLnig]

@Sanukriyuka i loled

[Chadasdf]

2 legends.

[jkerns85]

Look at the size of Brzenks lat muscle that probably where all his power comes from.

[EmotionalShredd]

Brzenk won the Over the Top comp in Las Vegas 1986 at age 20. amazing. he won the 250000 USD truck, but sold it and baught a corvette instead lol

[IRONboxGym]

Both of them are superhumans

[jkerns85]

allen fisher always looks like a idiot when he armwrestles like he is trying to intimidate someone lol Hes a great armwrestler though an I really like hi but dang.

[ryan12629]

prime vs prime, brzenk would still own fisher anyday

[Gkabe]

Fisher is 8 years older then Brzenk thats why he loses in this video. He is too old for Brzenk this is not fair buel at all.Fisher is 52 and Brzenk is only 44 here.

[Silks]

geezus brzenk looked strong there

[czoraa21]

2 of my favorite arm wrestlers right there!!!

[standorasbox]

allen had zero chance

[946laura]

it seems to me that john always holds you there like a brick wall, and waits for the right time and wam, there he wins again

[jrn2b]

I dont like arm wrestling like this. I get it's part of the sport, but they're barely using any arm strength, its all body shift. It's called arm wrestling, not body wrestleling.

[skirts365]

@jrn2b You're right, it doesn't isolate any single muscle. But the idea is "the arm is a lever," and there is something it's connected to---the body.

[jcole49]

Allen Fisher 54

John Brzenk 47

[skirts365]

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[ryabokon1989]

Allen Fisher 65 y.

John Brzenk 45 y.

[masterpatric07]

brezneck is not the same as in previous years.john's problem now is that he might be suffering LOW TESTOSTERONE, it is something that happens when we get older.lost of strenght, diminished sex drive etc.He may need to do a plan to increase his testosterone.

[bustatenkemo76]

@masterpatric07 are you sugesting roids?



[ramadan11111]

@bustatenkemo76 denis cyplenkov arsen liliev many armwrestlers use roids.. they dont test for roids in armwrestling competitions so many do it.

[luisarturomarin]

allen is not the same weight than brzenk. is not fair

[mundo77]

Brzenk is the best ever, he crushed this guy with ease.

[jcole49]

actually it is 1957 vs 1964

[umplesant]

wow how old is first

[cinna71]

two legends

[ryan12629]

brzenk is better than fisher in every aspect... including size lol

[Feon2]

And Brzenk is a lot heavier, I think

[getodachoppa1]

pwnd

[crazyboutnaruto12]

I love the fucking quality, its like I was right there, damn nice camera.

[HouZuo]

Allen Fisher is old now. He only can beat some garbage guys with his whoe body.

[thedarkknight117]

@HouZuo

At the UAL tournament in July he convincingly defeated several of the top 170 pound guys in the nation.

So much for only being able to beat "some garbage guys."

[Ringnesbest]

haha john is just like chilli'n :P

[3nderoX]

can't believe allen lost i thought he was the best...

[q8shiaprince]

@3nderoX allen is 53 years old john is 46 years old a lot between them look at john now like fisher always loss that the age factor you must compared them in there primes and both of them are great

[pajamadude15]

@3nderoX He has been arm wrestling for so long. He is an old guy now.

[LucaBlightBadass]

@3nderoX No brzenk was voted the greatest arm wrestler of all time in the guiness book of world records!

[redhenryrepeater]

@LucaBlightBadass that book is bullshit. alexey voevoda easily defeated brzenk.

[LucaBlightBadass]

@redhenryrepeater Brzenk was well underweight then and voevoda was huge, lets put it this way if brzenk and voevoda where the same size, voevoda wouldn't stand a chance!

[redhenryrepeater]

@LucaBlightBadass excuses excuses. voevoda is number 1 no doubt about it.

[bogdychamp]

Brzenk is the greatest of all time. But Voevoda is the strongest.

But u made a fair point. If they were in the same weight category, then Brzenk would probably win. His weight/power ratio is better than anyone else's. But the thing is they are not. Even though Voevoda wins because he's bigger , nonetheless he wins.

But that doesn't make Brzenk less of an armwrestler. His achievements in armwrestling probably will never be matched.

He's a legend.Period !

[nomitata]

i only use 2 to 3 fingers when im arm wrestling. i dont wanna break the personss bone. i curl 135 x 8reps x 3-4 sets. but triceps are my fav muscles.

[kaigreg]

@nomitata Yeah yeah 135 as in 135 ounces

[powerattitudetrim]

@kaigreg looooooooooooool

[MightySaxon55]

@nomitata thats not bad but if you arm wrestle someone formidable trust me u'll use everything u've got

[Arajack]

BUT HOW OLD IS ALAN FISHER HERE , PROBABLY TOO OLD

[Arajack]

wooow man this Brzenk broke a champion ...

aint know Brzenk is like this calm and strong

[rosananfer]

always has a female voice shouts to John "come on" can only be his wife ...

[jimbij007]

@rosananfer I think her heart and mind is still day before night.. lol

[HouZuo]

Two old guys.

[mizanafif22]

allen fisher u are the best arm wrestle

[alex3style]

@mizanafif22 no, but was the best

[gh4pwner]

i h8 competition arm wrestling, there is no such thing as cheap moves. i prefer a good clean arm wrestling match. no wrist popping shit, no body weight assistance, and no elbow moving spazzes

[trashbash2001]

@gh4pwner But THATS armwrestling dude. If you pull with a straight arm and no body positioning adjustment, you risk breaking your arm. Besides, there really is no "body weight assistance" invovled. The weigh of the body is useless if the bicep isnt strong enough to pull with it. You can weigh 500 lbs, doesnt mean your arm is strong enough to pull the other guy down.

[kevlarunderwear22]

@trashbash2001 if weight wasnt an issue they wouldnt have weight divisions. it does matter

[trashbash2001]

@kevlarunderwear22 NO not for the actual pulling. The weigh-ins yes. Have you ever seen john brzenk beat the 700 lbs cleave dean? If weight was an issue, then he'd beat everyone. It's illegal to put your weight on top of your hands and press down with your chest. A tricep press is okay though. If your weight is pulling you down, your bicep still has to pull your opponents arm down. Weigh in just match you up appropriately. A 40 year 300 lbs dude against a 18 year old 150 boy is pretty unfair.

[undergroundbasement]

Fisher and Brzenk both had parts in the movie Over The Top, Brzenk was like 22 yrs old in it

[murad421]

John takes him down - cool as a cucumber

[ExhumedANDConsumed]

not really a fair match weight class wise but I don't think many could match John's technique anyway.

[sdeevooo]

@ExhumedANDConsumed

seen so many people talking about john's "technique". without side pressure and biceps strength (which john uses if u watch all his matches carefully), there is no technique in the world that works. he "overpowers" in most of his matches.

[ExhumedANDConsumed]

@sdeevooo then why do people that are clearly stronger like Cyplenkov lose so easily?

[sdeevooo]

@ExhumedANDConsumed

i m sure i mentioned "side pressure" which plays key role in Brzenk's hooks which he most usually depends on. brzenk is naturally stronger than majority with that ligament.

[ALANFISHERCHEATS]

cheaters never prosper

[4inches4u]

I love how john makes a joke about fishers chalk at 0:23 -0:30.John is my fucking hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

[NolstalgiaFreek]

I know right? Like chalk's really gonna make a difference haha

[NolstalgiaFreek]

When Allen is on point, he destroys everybody in his class, he can toproll the best (cobra) and hook as hard as Vazgen Soghoyan!

[danjohnjmaes]

Allen is like 53 now, back in his prime he could have given Brzenk a good go

[jagjagjag009]

well is brzenk in his prime now? i dont think so hes 45 now...

[BodyRopeGym]

8 yrs is alot of difference dude.

[headcaseman]

Haha, in the first match when Allen fouled, you can see him try to snatch John's wrist away but John's just having none of it.

[silentvincent69]

this are 2 living legends - greeting to you john and Allen

[glcb7]

i love how fisher is hyper the whole time while john is just calm and smiling....damn brzenk has some massive forarms!!!! :)

[headcaseman]

Brzenk vs Samuelsson would be an awesome match. I'd have thought Samuelsson would win due to having the technique but also being much much stronger than John.

It's a shame there are no Samuelsson arm wreslting vids about, apart from the Nathan Jones one obviously.

[SDSen]

Brzenk would systematically rape Samuelsson don't insult Brzenk by associating him with Samuel

[HandelandJ]

Samuelsson vs. Ion Oncescu or Marcio Barboza would be a closer match... but I'd still bet Samuelsson loses. Versus Chris Chandler or Dan Whittle would probably be good.

[robertbertstar]

i wanna see brzenk vs magnus sammuelson right hand

[fernanditosant]

Me encantaría ver a Samuelsson en la lucha de brazos.

[arpner1]

@robertbertstar Brzenk would desroy Sammuelson

[texmexspm]

Allen Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­ooooooo

T^T

[sdeevooo]

stfu

[walter1982ful]

john frzenk es una bestia y lo seguira siendo

[minamagedzz]

still guys .... allen fisher is old .... and for his age hes doing great ... i mean hell yeah he is against brzenk .. no chance here .... but all the respect for fisher he is an excellent arm wrestler

[TheIceIsSlippery]

I think it's weird that no one is accounting for Fisher's age. He looks like an old man to me, still amazing that he can even compete with these guys.

[HandelandJ]

Fisher's 52 and Brzenk is 45... not that much different. Only 7 years, nobody said anything about age when Devon beat John and there's a 10+ age gap there. But seeing as your tendons don't fully mature until you're about 40, Allen has more of an advantage than someone in their early 20's. Most armwrestlers who take care of themselves peak in their 40's.

[trashbash2001]

wow, i've always wanted to see these two guys pull. I never doubted john for a second, but i know allen has a good rep. BUT like always, john prevails! Good job, and excellent video.

i cant wait to see john rematch devon larate (spelling?) and win

[princereggie1980]

that's the first time i have ever seen the 26 time world champion lose! It seems like he has a habit of lifting his elbow in matches. this video shows it and many others, yet he gets away with it. they call it the first time and then let it go. good video!

[NolstalgiaFreek]

Cool Vid, thanks and i'd love to see more of this caliber. Allen Fisher's right forearm looks unreal in real life and yea i'd agree that pretty much his whole arms not much different lookin then brzenks. His hand is probably bigger I mean hell it's 9 inches long lol

[HandelandJ]

I saw both of their arms get measured after the ROTN and actually, Fisher's forearm was 14 even with his arm straight out and forearm flexed. Brzenk's was 15.5". Brzenk's upper arm was 18.25'" (he was surprised it was that big). Fisher's was 15.75". Fisher's forearms look about the same size as Brzenk's but it must just be because they are so big compared to the rest of his body.

[TheMightykaz]

Man I thought Allen forearm would be 16! Brenzk is huge. I heard Cleve dean had a 19 inch forearm held staright and 22+ goosenecked.

[HandelandJ]

Fisher's are probably in the 15's if goosenecked. I heard Richard Lupkes forearms are 20" (goosenecked, I would assume). I have never seen Cleve in person but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true considering his weight fluctuated between 400 an 600 lbs.

[arpner1]

@HandelandJ Cyplenkov has 26"forearms and Brzenk takes him.Brzenk has steel tendons

[dre1i]

@arpner1 26'' held straight or???

[AndyrocksXTZ]

@dre1i I don't think so,at 90 degress has 26 with his forearm straight i guess 23-24.

[jcole49]

Glad you like the video. Next time I will drink a couple more beers. I hold the camera better that way.

[HandelandJ]

Great video quality! Of course Allen has no chance against John but it's still cool to watch. The crazy part is, Allen Fisher's hand is probably close to or about the same size as John's, heck his lower arm in general has got to be close to the same size. You can see John's lats sticking out in this vid though.