Dott vs Selby WC 2010 - Foul or no foul ?

[AjLeapz]

why does selby always play on,, look at the score

[beansterman1998]

But i don't know weather he was on reds or colours.

[Kamenos4ever]

definitely foul.. stupid idiots go see a doctor.

[SN1P3R0809]

HE DEFENTLY HIT THE RED FIRST 'CAUSE DA' PINK CANNONED OFF IT!!!!!

[beansterman1998]

You can tell it was red from the angle of the white and pink.

[SimpVeggie]

oh lol, forgot I'd already commented here

[SimpVeggie]

easily red first. There's no issue here

[GroblichMagflurg]

Red first without a doubt

[poolmaster18]

@GroblichMagflurg how do u know?

[SimpVeggie]

Clearly red first. Touching both at the same time is statistically almost impossible, though at a certain point it becomes impossible to see with the naked eye which was first. I don't think that's the case here

[SimpVeggie]

Clearly red first

[eggnogonthebog]

Look liked offside to me.

[00woolley]

Are you people blind?

The white makes contact with the pink first.

[LordHeath1972]

plant shot - no foul

[MOTUL76]

The white balls shifts to the left after contact. So it must have hit the red first.

[mikewasyliw]

Definately red first, even without the slow motion camera. It is all about the movement of the cue ball after contact. In a shot like this, the cue ball will always move away from the ball it contacted first. Go to a table and try it out. You will them be able to detect which ball was hit first almost 100% of the time. The tricky part comes when the balls get further apart, the rules change, and the cue ball moves toward the ball it struck first.

[cue1cole]

pink clearly moved farther than the brown by at least an inch indicating red first

[sherifessmat]

can i ask a question? well i see that it touched the red ball and the brown in the same time, ok even if i was wrong if it really did touched the brown and the red in the same time would it be foul?

[palse777]

yes



[palse777]

@sherifessmat yes

[ElWensh89]

not foul

[ElWensh89]

@ElWensh89 pink moved first

[vickywm]

no  foul

[vickywm]

no



[chankifung4e]

No!! He hit the cusion first

[sherifessmat]

@chankifung4e what does it got to do with the damn cussion first for god sake u invent new snooker rules?

[themathsking]

even if the pink travelled further, it doesn't mean he hit the red first, if you consider the cue ball momentum in horizontal and vertical components

now consider only the horizontal component

before: cue ball to the left

after: pink more to the left, brown bit to the right

"pink's left" minus "brown's right" is about the same as "cue ball's left"

i am not gonna comment on if he hit the red first or both, coz i can't judge that :S

[cue1cole]

if hed hit both balls exact then it would have been a foul but i agree with adronias. the pink is distorted before the brown moves suggesting red micro seconds before brown. yan must have super slow playback in his head. lol

[detectiveinspekta]

It sure appears that both touched. Imposable to tell with normal video play. Def a foul.

[DjdM5K]

noooo..at first...he hit the white :D

[samyboy280]

look at the distance the brown travels, far less than the pink, so obviously he hit red first...

[MrAckW]

Come On!! At least let me see if he pot red!

[phixxwutwut]

no foul

[FunnySkatersPuga]

Same Time

[TheJameySuede]

No Foul

[elbotron]

first he touch the white ball :))))))

[marcelobeirao000]

if the pink ball go longer than the brown ball, that means that the pink ball got the most power, so it touched the red ball first, not a foul :)

[vnneh]

the brown first, it aint much but if u pause at the correct moment u can see the brown just leave that tiny bit earlier, i dunno if that was a foul or not tho :P

[kofighters]

i think he hit the pink first

[onlinefriend4ever]

I was playing snooker with my m8 and he fould,

so i put 4 points for my self & he said why you done that?

i told him because u just fouled & he said...

"No but i didnt do it purpose" lol

[ThePakpakistan]

have a look at pink idiots .... no foul ....

[malaperdas30]

no foul, but shit happens

[Eptapus]

He hit the red first.. try to concentrate to the motion of the white ball.. The white ball moved a little bit to the down right.. So he hit first the red one..

[adronias]

He hit the red first. The pink distorts the shot.

[marzrei]

@adronias or is it the brown because the direction went more to the red one..?

[CarpMagic95]

deffo hit the red first, easily and obviously but looked tight in real time

[chisinchai]

they should use high speed camera...

IMO it's not a foul

[qwertyuioOoP100]

NOT FOUL

[HannaLemon]

hey guys that wasn't a foul

never!

u can see that the pink moves before the brown is moving

he touched the red before the brown definitely

it's sad that it wasn't a foul 'cause i like selby more than dott ^^

he's my favorite but u have to say that it wasn't a foul

@ armaniac661

u are allowed to hit the red and than the brown

it doesn't exist a simultaneously hit ^^

[gavpots]

@HannaLemon . A rule does exist for a simultaneous hit, it is a foul in snooker.

[12345Tpb]

@gavpots True, a rule does exist, but its still the ref's decision to award or not award the foul, in this case the ref ruled it to be a fair shot, and from what I gather, his opponent didn't disagree so the shot is fair

[lomirandlo]

@HannaLemon

Surely hit the red first as you said that the pink moves far more than the brown.....

I think we're just cheated by our eyes as the red didnt moved much as the power all to the pink, if we focus on the pink and brown, it will be clear......

[J4YM5]

@lomirandlo think your right there.

[keflar5]

brown first

[armaniac661]

0:46 : D

I think it was a foul, too, since you're not allowed to simultaneously hit both red and a color.

[MRZugfreak]

i think that was a foul b

[papichulobumber1]

It does look pink moves before brown, It also moves faster than brown, which (with my my limited knowledge of physics) must mean more power is exerted on the red which it was touching,

[Englandsbestlover]

The ref would have to data from star trek to get that correct if it was a foul, which it werent

[s80]

omg, that's impossible to see. however, in the very last slow mo it kind of appears that maybe the red moves like a nano second earlier :P

[wrathi]

Wow that's pretty hard decision.