Thumbs up for putting it all on the line for our edification. And this just proves what those who've been in actual street fights know: ball-shot victories are borderline urban myth. This was a calm situation...in a real scrap, adrenaline dulls the pain even more. I've used the knee-to-balls and it wasn't anywhere near as effective as elbow to face or fist-to-gut.
cont...search for "paul vunak enigma" he shows some ground work there with other techniques, namely biting the nose/ears while kneeing the inside of the thigh or groin and if you have some skill it is possible to choke the guy at the same time, theres then also the uppem (i duno how its spelt) from which you can clinch the head while gouging the eyes, or just hold their head in place with an arm round the neck while elbowing the throat and poking the eyes, look at them, then respond if you want
you say "use a proven technique that works", y dont u show us 1, yeah your counter locks and ground work works in a cage fight with rules. i did notice you never used any of the other techniques that awanener suggested. I agree that awakeners vid was pathetic and his techniques wouldnt work, however the techniques I learnt in jkd do seem to work when i use them for real. you have proven 1 jkd instructor is wrong about 1 technique, however we have many other ways of getting out of this.
@mrperson722 I wasn't attacking JKD, just techniques that rely on hitting the balls and, more specifically, TheAwakener's ridiculous claims about escaping mount and arm bars by smashing the balls. I plan on addressing the rest of the techniques in his video, probably this Monday.
@wvdmc sorry 4 late reply, can you direct me to your other vids? I wana see thoughts on different techniques etc. Also I did notice you flinched every time he hit your groin, which is what it is for. That awakeners guy does seem retarded and doesnt understand the flinch response but if you want to see proper jkd ground tatics try paul vunak, he demonstrates the follow up to this, which is only used as a way of distracting the opponant long enough to maim them (or kill if you so wish).
@mrperson722 From the bottom of the mount a flinch is not going to be helpful, especially if you have to lower your hands away from your face to illicit that flinch response. The upa mount escape that you describe is much more helpful, and it improves your position without sacrificing your face.
Also realize if you are lowering your hands from your face in the mount, you are opening yourself to eye gouges, which are much easier to make from the top than the bottom, flinch or not.
ah ha ha ha good clip dude...this just proves what i have been telling these fantasy based idiots all along. that dirty tatics dont work as good as they think rofl as if they have some sort of secret weapon. to all the real fighters and mma dudes enjoy this clip.....
@SkemeKOS rofl so did i dude it just shows that those fantasy boys that think dirty tatics are magic are idiots...if they fought a bjj or mma dude they would lose every time...unless they are training bjj or mma.
@theawakener7 Oh yes - it's clearly not about egos - this video is a calm, considered response, and you nearly spat your tongue out insulting him in response - in truth, because he 'dared' to question you, and you consider yourself a holy messenger. The fact is, as with your 'sparring' videos, you have no actual full contact clips that show any of this working - and your response won't be one either. *to all* - youtube doesn't allow you to post links, even to other utube vids.
Me and my teammates were reinacting that "JKD is not for the ring" video too the other day.
NOTHING worked!!!
Imagine if you were REALLY raining down with those blows from mount!
He would be forced to defend....the last thing he would be thinking of doing would be losing his blocking arms and punching your balls or pinching LOL
Great rebuttal wvdmc. People who think that ball-punching/grabbing, pinching, eye gouges, etc... will magically get you out of a bad position (mount bottom, side control bottom, back control, etc...) are instilling a false sense of confidence in themselves and their students which is incredibly dangerous.
Back when all of that was legal in the first UFC's, we quickly saw just how ineffective it was. Look up "joe son ball punch" and witness the effect of ball punching when adrenaline is flowing.
I wanted to say that u did a good job proving that punching balls is not an end all be all, but i think there are a couple of flaws in your report. Grabbing a guys balls and squeezing is much more effective, plus u were expecting it. When u hit a guy in the balls, u are just looking for the reaction so u can counter his balance. U were expecting the punches and your partner only punched your balls. In a real street fight, He would have taken advantage and countered with other punches, etc.
Thumbs up for putting it all on the line for our edification. And this just proves what those who've been in actual street fights know: ball-shot victories are borderline urban myth. This was a calm situation...in a real scrap, adrenaline dulls the pain even more. I've used the knee-to-balls and it wasn't anywhere near as effective as elbow to face or fist-to-gut.
Talviir 5 months ago
Well done
scythe0704 5 months ago
cont...search for "paul vunak enigma" he shows some ground work there with other techniques, namely biting the nose/ears while kneeing the inside of the thigh or groin and if you have some skill it is possible to choke the guy at the same time, theres then also the uppem (i duno how its spelt) from which you can clinch the head while gouging the eyes, or just hold their head in place with an arm round the neck while elbowing the throat and poking the eyes, look at them, then respond if you want
mrperson722 7 months ago
you say "use a proven technique that works", y dont u show us 1, yeah your counter locks and ground work works in a cage fight with rules. i did notice you never used any of the other techniques that awanener suggested. I agree that awakeners vid was pathetic and his techniques wouldnt work, however the techniques I learnt in jkd do seem to work when i use them for real. you have proven 1 jkd instructor is wrong about 1 technique, however we have many other ways of getting out of this.
mrperson722 7 months ago
@mrperson722 I wasn't attacking JKD, just techniques that rely on hitting the balls and, more specifically, TheAwakener's ridiculous claims about escaping mount and arm bars by smashing the balls. I plan on addressing the rest of the techniques in his video, probably this Monday.
wvdmc 7 months ago
@wvdmc sorry 4 late reply, can you direct me to your other vids? I wana see thoughts on different techniques etc. Also I did notice you flinched every time he hit your groin, which is what it is for. That awakeners guy does seem retarded and doesnt understand the flinch response but if you want to see proper jkd ground tatics try paul vunak, he demonstrates the follow up to this, which is only used as a way of distracting the opponant long enough to maim them (or kill if you so wish).
mrperson722 5 months ago
@mrperson722 From the bottom of the mount a flinch is not going to be helpful, especially if you have to lower your hands away from your face to illicit that flinch response. The upa mount escape that you describe is much more helpful, and it improves your position without sacrificing your face.
Also realize if you are lowering your hands from your face in the mount, you are opening yourself to eye gouges, which are much easier to make from the top than the bottom, flinch or not.
wvdmc 5 months ago
op was pwnd
jfhomesweethome 7 months ago
oh and i have to add...a nipple twister was that jkd dude serious?? rofl ah ha ha ha
mmalizard 7 months ago
@mmalizard
HAHAHAH Me and my REAL JKD friends were laughing sooooooo hard when he showed that!
Its not going to work, youre just going to get your face caved in for even trying it LOL
SkemeKOS 7 months ago
ah ha ha ha good clip dude...this just proves what i have been telling these fantasy based idiots all along. that dirty tatics dont work as good as they think rofl as if they have some sort of secret weapon. to all the real fighters and mma dudes enjoy this clip.....
mmalizard 7 months ago
@mmalizard
As you can tell, I enjoyed this clip a LOT! lol
SkemeKOS 7 months ago
@SkemeKOS rofl so did i dude it just shows that those fantasy boys that think dirty tatics are magic are idiots...if they fought a bjj or mma dude they would lose every time...unless they are training bjj or mma.
mmalizard 7 months ago
@mmalizard
Exactly. Those traditional guys and so called "JKD instructors" havent got a clue.
They need to wake up to reality.
SkemeKOS 7 months ago
@theawakener7 Oh yes - it's clearly not about egos - this video is a calm, considered response, and you nearly spat your tongue out insulting him in response - in truth, because he 'dared' to question you, and you consider yourself a holy messenger. The fact is, as with your 'sparring' videos, you have no actual full contact clips that show any of this working - and your response won't be one either. *to all* - youtube doesn't allow you to post links, even to other utube vids.
IronJester1 7 months ago 5
@wvdmc
OWNED!!!!
Great job bro.
SkemeKOS 7 months ago
@theawakener7
Well, EVERONE one of my friends laugh there ass off at your video bro.
Seriously, we are in tears. No word of a lie. Youre ball punches and girly pinches dont work.
This video proves it.
I already proved it to myself and my mates a few weeks ago too by reinacting your video.
You should just take that video down because its going to get someone hurt if they use the things you suggest.
Thanks for the laughs though!
SkemeKOS 7 months ago
THANK YOU for this video!!!!!!!
Me and my teammates were reinacting that "JKD is not for the ring" video too the other day.
NOTHING worked!!!
Imagine if you were REALLY raining down with those blows from mount!
He would be forced to defend....the last thing he would be thinking of doing would be losing his blocking arms and punching your balls or pinching LOL
GREAT job bro!
SkemeKOS 7 months ago
Great rebuttal wvdmc. People who think that ball-punching/grabbing, pinching, eye gouges, etc... will magically get you out of a bad position (mount bottom, side control bottom, back control, etc...) are instilling a false sense of confidence in themselves and their students which is incredibly dangerous.
Back when all of that was legal in the first UFC's, we quickly saw just how ineffective it was. Look up "joe son ball punch" and witness the effect of ball punching when adrenaline is flowing.
uncleskippy76 7 months ago 14
but u did a good job. Next time have him grab your balls and squeeze and jerk. That would tell the tell. Over all good job.
mrpickle481 7 months ago
I wanted to say that u did a good job proving that punching balls is not an end all be all, but i think there are a couple of flaws in your report. Grabbing a guys balls and squeezing is much more effective, plus u were expecting it. When u hit a guy in the balls, u are just looking for the reaction so u can counter his balance. U were expecting the punches and your partner only punched your balls. In a real street fight, He would have taken advantage and countered with other punches, etc.
mrpickle481 7 months ago
you should do it so we can see him actually hitting him in the balls and yes i think he is wearing a cup
punchednuts 7 months ago
I guess you proved your point... you should do a video showing some effective methods.
beingmenow1 7 months ago