I'm not second guessing the guys' great timing or innovation but it's yet another move where you have no idea which guy was on the receiving end, kind of like the reverse STO which is the exact same thing as a rock bottom except the guy landing on his front is the one "in pain".
I might be able to perform that move in a real fight. I've used Ranhei in a grappling match before. That'd be the pefect takedown into a guillotine choke.
no WWE "super star" gonna rip this off b-cuz they just gonna botch it and the giver will break his own neck instead off the reciever
im VERY suprised they letting even bourne do the 450 splash (or is it the shooting star press??) either way im still surprised b-cuz its a very high risked move
Yup when Bourne or Sydal was down in FCW or OVW, I forget, he used the shooting Star press as his finisher, but it is probably the most controlled one I have seen used, who uses this move. I still love how they banned the 450 splash but if you go to Paul Londons profile it says his finisher is the 450 SPlash.
well.its mainly coz sydal is the best ssp user in the world(even jushin thunder lyger was impressed by it) wwe banned the ssp as they were afarid of botches during flips,but sydal completes his flip so perfectly n has all the time to hit a perfect splash,due to the height he gets
@stygianmessiah There are no "banned" moves in WWE(not officially anyway). Wrestlers are just encouraged to prove they can do a move safely before they can use it.
As for the quality of Sydal's SSP, there are few words to describe it
ok who John Cena...HHH same old stuff, Pedigree, FU, yoyoyo, Chaingang wordlife, I repeat myself all the time. At least TNA has balls to take risk on wrestlers and have partner ships with REAL wrestling companies
decent wrestlers yes.decent storylines yes.decent commentators yes.but the decent wrestlers lik morrison n shelton r buried,with mororns lik hhh,roidtista n cena taking the helm.n the sorylines that could b good were given out to pathetic wrestlers
Agreed, I have lost my taste in all American Wrestling, WWE and TNA are almost the same companies just picking up each others leftovers, hell even ROH and PWG have gotten sloppy, I have not seen an amazing spectucal match from any of these companies since 2006 for the indies, and way back before the Invasion. Japanese promotions though are so un predictable, like when Joe Doering joined VoodooMurders I don't think anyone saw that coming, and the Dragon Gate alignments have changed quite a bit
Basically, once you get a fix of wrestling that isn't necessarily accessible or outside of your scope you find stuff like TNA/WWE or even ROH boring. I just try to get a bit of everything, including HUSTLE or Kaientai Dojo which even their young stars impress me.
@vgenisis Psst all wrestlers use moves other come up with. Moves are not copyrighted or owned by any one person. So according to you all wrestler rip off moves.
@rdchili69 I never said they COULDN'T, you need to learn to read properly, I was talking about the wwe hiring people who could pull off the "dangerous/exciting" moves. Did my comment say neither of those could wrestler.....why no it didn't.
@kimbolton111 man tajiri was a rip off of eastern wrestling, nothing but stiff kicks and skin the cat like counters. what ever happen to super crazy?
Legsweep sunset flip DDT?
KingSygma 1 month ago
i had to see this vid like 10 times to understand how this move works. same thing happened to me when i saw the Canadian Destroyer for the 1st time.
ioriyagami 8 months ago
Nathan is so Gay!!! LOLOLOLOL
rapturoussex 10 months ago
the head didnt land on the mat it was the other guys elbow went 1st b4 head lands which probably had no effect what so ever
peteBULL18 1 year ago
that was pretty dam cool
BURNINGHAMMER76 1 year ago
renhei
thecoolboys888 1 year ago
I'm not second guessing the guys' great timing or innovation but it's yet another move where you have no idea which guy was on the receiving end, kind of like the reverse STO which is the exact same thing as a rock bottom except the guy landing on his front is the one "in pain".
Eskimo50 1 year ago
Poor KENTA...
spearstrike211 1 year ago
Front facelock Ranhei.
PhilipEbanks 1 year ago
bajs
skatelover909 1 year ago
Fuck yes!
HAMphetamine 1 year ago
lets see wwe try this move
guiltykombat 2 years ago
Why Vince is going to ban it.
ECWExtremeMoments 1 year ago
I might be able to perform that move in a real fight. I've used Ranhei in a grappling match before. That'd be the pefect takedown into a guillotine choke.
facepaintedlegend 2 years ago
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SaloY2J 2 years ago
its called a ranhei
RVDMysterio619 2 years ago
a ranhei is a forward flipping russian leg sweep, this is a ddt
jeremyownedcody 2 years ago
@jeremyownedcody They are not the same thing. Ranhei isn't a DDT, this is.
rdchili69 1 year ago
Ranhei is the same thing isn't it. Might be a pinning variation of the move
JStylezzV2 2 years ago
no ranhei is completly diffrent as it ends in a pin not a ddt
nekrow666 2 years ago
lol whatever it is, it is worse
AlexShelleyMCMG 2 years ago
isn't this mopve called Ranhei or Madoka
AlanJonesStyles 2 years ago
it's called Ranhei. and Madoka does it
criestonight1 2 years ago
Actually, the Ranhei is a gut-wrench based move. This is ddt based
ryosensai 2 years ago 11
oh i know. i was just answering the question. i guess i didnt make it clear enough
criestonight1 2 years ago
No,ranhei is different
MrFuckyourselfanddie 2 years ago
it basically is but instead of it being a gutwrench clutch a ddt clutch is used instead
DKdogerV2 2 years ago
Wait, didn't he just kinda Northern Lights suplex himself?
TheKyleMark 2 years ago 4
.. wait, isn't this a Front flip STO?
ju5tbl4z3 2 years ago
Kind of except a STO is where the user puts his opponent in a Rock Bottom type hold
Najohn 2 years ago
sto's can also involve lariat-legsweep combinations to slam down the opponent.
Psytheslasher 2 years ago 2
@Najohn This is front facelock STO, Tim Donst uses it like a finisher. Noone ever tapped out to his STO
DuleTheMan 11 months ago
@Najohn It's a front facelock STO technically.
Sneezlebob 8 months ago
Wow, that had me like: o_o lol - I need to start watching Japanese Wrestling.
ju5tbl4z3 2 years ago
That and his elbow drop......SICK!!!!
StarBucks718 3 years ago
Its pretty innovative
Najohn 2 years ago
i never thought i would say this but KENTA got owned. move looks alot more painful then the destroyer(i hate the CD).
psychodude44 3 years ago
I cant wait untill I turn 18 and join the wrestling bisness
Thats going to be my finisher
mtcdawg 3 years ago
with parental consent, you can start wrestling as early as 14
XnumbsickenedeyesX 3 years ago
yup
Najohn 3 years ago
marufuji used a similar in his titel defence against shuji kondo...like instead its flipped over as a russian legsweep
kyotanahashi 3 years ago
No one in WWE will rip off of it. It is 'too dangerous' for the stars to use - -'
LotusEclipse 3 years ago
no WWE "super star" gonna rip this off b-cuz they just gonna botch it and the giver will break his own neck instead off the reciever
im VERY suprised they letting even bourne do the 450 splash (or is it the shooting star press??) either way im still surprised b-cuz its a very high risked move
TrueRatedRSuperstar 3 years ago
actually, they almost didnt let him do the ssp...he basically had to show he could do it effortlessly (which he can) and not risk hurtin any1
Kolte318 3 years ago
Yup when Bourne or Sydal was down in FCW or OVW, I forget, he used the shooting Star press as his finisher, but it is probably the most controlled one I have seen used, who uses this move. I still love how they banned the 450 splash but if you go to Paul Londons profile it says his finisher is the 450 SPlash.
Najohn 3 years ago
well.its mainly coz sydal is the best ssp user in the world(even jushin thunder lyger was impressed by it) wwe banned the ssp as they were afarid of botches during flips,but sydal completes his flip so perfectly n has all the time to hit a perfect splash,due to the height he gets
stygianmessiah 2 years ago
aint that the truth
Najohn 2 years ago
@stygianmessiah There are no "banned" moves in WWE(not officially anyway). Wrestlers are just encouraged to prove they can do a move safely before they can use it.
As for the quality of Sydal's SSP, there are few words to describe it
LegendaryPSR 1 year ago
Sick move.I wonder which WWE-tard is gonna rip it off first.
vgenisis 4 years ago 14
yeah your right
rjjugo95 3 years ago
No one, WWE does not even use the Canadian Destroyer, so seeing this move in the WWE is like Vince buying out AJPW and NJPW.
Najohn 3 years ago
shut up at least WWE and TNA have some decent wrestlers
giggwrm 3 years ago
ok who John Cena...HHH same old stuff, Pedigree, FU, yoyoyo, Chaingang wordlife, I repeat myself all the time. At least TNA has balls to take risk on wrestlers and have partner ships with REAL wrestling companies
Najohn 3 years ago
Your an idiot. Figure out about Japan wrestling. WWE sucks, and TNA sucks (slightly less)
beproxsoxbro 3 years ago 2
decent wrestlers yes.decent storylines yes.decent commentators yes.but the decent wrestlers lik morrison n shelton r buried,with mororns lik hhh,roidtista n cena taking the helm.n the sorylines that could b good were given out to pathetic wrestlers
stygianmessiah 3 years ago 3
Agreed, I have lost my taste in all American Wrestling, WWE and TNA are almost the same companies just picking up each others leftovers, hell even ROH and PWG have gotten sloppy, I have not seen an amazing spectucal match from any of these companies since 2006 for the indies, and way back before the Invasion. Japanese promotions though are so un predictable, like when Joe Doering joined VoodooMurders I don't think anyone saw that coming, and the Dragon Gate alignments have changed quite a bit
Najohn 3 years ago
YES! Thats all I have to say!
BlaqueOut89 2 years ago
Basically, once you get a fix of wrestling that isn't necessarily accessible or outside of your scope you find stuff like TNA/WWE or even ROH boring. I just try to get a bit of everything, including HUSTLE or Kaientai Dojo which even their young stars impress me.
newagepun 2 years ago 2
@vgenisis Psst all wrestlers use moves other come up with. Moves are not copyrighted or owned by any one person. So according to you all wrestler rip off moves.
rdchili69 1 year ago
@vgenisis
They don't allow kool moves like this only boring ones lol
SamuraiGhost63 1 year ago
@SamuraiGhost63 lol yeah for safety reason....if they are that worried why not hire people who can actually wrestler? lol
dwoverdose52 1 year ago
@dwoverdose52 KENTA and Taiji Ishimori CAN wrestle.
rdchili69 1 year ago
@rdchili69 I never said they COULDN'T, you need to learn to read properly, I was talking about the wwe hiring people who could pull off the "dangerous/exciting" moves. Did my comment say neither of those could wrestler.....why no it didn't.
dwoverdose52 1 year ago
@dwoverdose52 Bryan Danielson can wrestle so can Low Ki there are alot of younger wrestlers that are pretty good.
mjdmjdmjdmjdmjd 1 year ago
@SamuraiGhost63 Kofi does the Ranhei, which is a very similar move
rdchili69 1 year ago
@vgenisis Kofi Kingston..
iSmashify 1 year ago
@vgenisis wwe needs tajiri
kimbolton111 1 year ago
@kimbolton111 man tajiri was a rip off of eastern wrestling, nothing but stiff kicks and skin the cat like counters. what ever happen to super crazy?
kinginc2000 10 months ago
@vgenisis Rip off? No one owns wrestling moves, everyone does moves other people have made up.
rdchili69 1 year ago
@vgenisis
I tihnk kofi kingston used this
mikky79924 1 year ago
@mikky79924 No he has a side-hold type frontflip pin. It's odd to look at, but it's really smooth and flowing.
XIIISyns 1 year ago
@XIIISyns
oh dang guess i shouldve read down on the commens before posting mine earlier..
hugobras1 9 months ago
@vgenisis
guess kofi kingston did
hugobras1 9 months ago
@vgenisis kofi kingston
pimalabama 9 months ago
@vgenisis Try Mainstream wrestler. TNA is just as bad now. Amazing Red's alter ego, Sangriento, finishing move seems to be the RKO/ Diamond cutter.
strang14 8 months ago
@strang14 its actually a springboard cutter which is pretty innovative
ShatteredMemories66 6 months ago
@vgenisis Cry me a river lol.
AbsoluteJake 5 months ago