@loiscoleman (4) I know this material can be interpreted in ways that make it seem "disturbing". I find that if I read it with a mindset that is not leaning toward accepting it/not accepting it & just see it for what it is actually saying as a whole document, its quite beautiful and helpful (especially as one who lived most of my life in fear, pain, suicidal behavior, drug abuse, and debilitating guilt). Maybe it doesn't do much for you, but for some other people it is very helpful.
@loiscoleman (3) to rape/be raped from a SANE mindset (or at all in my case), we can't really be guilty of a "sin" and damned to hellfire eternally. We both had severe social mental disorders inherited from our life experiences/genetic predispositions that led us to each other. Saying either of us were guilty would be akin to saying someone with dyslexia is guilty of a crime because he/she mis-read a word.
@loiscoleman (2) both my and his backgrounds, emotional states, relationships, beliefs, physical and psychological states, our genetic inheritances that have stretched further back in time than we as a species can see clearly. Neither of us had control over most of these factors. We didn't ask to be born and we have done what we thought we should based on what we felt and learned. Maybe we both made mistakes and need to make a "better choice", but because neither of us made the conscious choice
@loiscoleman As someone who has been raped and has also benefited from this material, I see it differently. When I see "Sons of God are not sinners" and other similar passages, I see it meaning I cannot blame my rapist or myself if I carefully look at the "sin" with the kind of mindset that ACIM provides in other areas (a mindset that looks to learn/see the world without painful or fearful emotional attachment).In the case of my rape, it was a product of a vast number of factors, including...
Another disturbing deduction of this philosophy is that since “Sons of God are not sinners” and pain and suffering are only illusions, a rapist is not guilty but his victim is. He is not to be blamed because as the son of God he can't commit sin, but she is guilty for imagining all that pain and suffering. The pain is not caused by the aggressor but is the cause of the separation of the victim from God. It boggles the mind to think that otherwise intelligent people would believe this stuff.
Wonderful, thanks for sharing this here!
organizer14 1 month ago
Why is this repeating? This is the same as the beginning...
best333WillC 3 months ago
@loiscoleman (4) I know this material can be interpreted in ways that make it seem "disturbing". I find that if I read it with a mindset that is not leaning toward accepting it/not accepting it & just see it for what it is actually saying as a whole document, its quite beautiful and helpful (especially as one who lived most of my life in fear, pain, suicidal behavior, drug abuse, and debilitating guilt). Maybe it doesn't do much for you, but for some other people it is very helpful.
megraelyn 3 months ago
@loiscoleman (3) to rape/be raped from a SANE mindset (or at all in my case), we can't really be guilty of a "sin" and damned to hellfire eternally. We both had severe social mental disorders inherited from our life experiences/genetic predispositions that led us to each other. Saying either of us were guilty would be akin to saying someone with dyslexia is guilty of a crime because he/she mis-read a word.
megraelyn 3 months ago
@loiscoleman (2) both my and his backgrounds, emotional states, relationships, beliefs, physical and psychological states, our genetic inheritances that have stretched further back in time than we as a species can see clearly. Neither of us had control over most of these factors. We didn't ask to be born and we have done what we thought we should based on what we felt and learned. Maybe we both made mistakes and need to make a "better choice", but because neither of us made the conscious choice
megraelyn 3 months ago
@loiscoleman As someone who has been raped and has also benefited from this material, I see it differently. When I see "Sons of God are not sinners" and other similar passages, I see it meaning I cannot blame my rapist or myself if I carefully look at the "sin" with the kind of mindset that ACIM provides in other areas (a mindset that looks to learn/see the world without painful or fearful emotional attachment).In the case of my rape, it was a product of a vast number of factors, including...
megraelyn 3 months ago
Another disturbing deduction of this philosophy is that since “Sons of God are not sinners” and pain and suffering are only illusions, a rapist is not guilty but his victim is. He is not to be blamed because as the son of God he can't commit sin, but she is guilty for imagining all that pain and suffering. The pain is not caused by the aggressor but is the cause of the separation of the victim from God. It boggles the mind to think that otherwise intelligent people would believe this stuff.
loiscoleman 4 months ago
This Video was originally produced on VHS in 1987. [I still have a copy ;-]
christsjoy 9 months ago
What year was this documentary made? Namaste.
FlourishingLight 10 months ago
@FlourishingLight In last clip "The Story of A Course In Miracles 7/16" ( 10:28) it says 1987.
drek2619 9 months ago in playlist asdas