Split lead doesn't mean someone who is playing the lead with the lead trumpet or someone who is taking stuff from the lead trumpet. Split Lead means Lead Part doubled down an octave or playing the stuff that is lead but not screaming giving the Lead guy time to rest. In Bob Curnow's LA Band recordings Wayne Bergeron will take the lead and Bobby Shew will take the Split Lead. I've seen actual Split Lead parts (usually in an optional 5th trumpet part)... FYI
@bradleythekid That may be the case, but there are no rigid rules as to how "split lead" is organised. It's basically 2 lead players sharing the lead book.
That's why Stan played with Maynard for ten years you haters. Funny Stan is a well renowned musician and has down countless things with his life and all you losers can do is hate. Your super cool!
He came to my high school once. Brought a black trumpet to jazz band practice. He put his head down, placed the lips to the mouthpiece, and produced a sound we will all never, ever forget.
This is posted so that those few who know enough to search can find some of the rare clips that demonstrate what capacities existed in live big band performance throughout the history of Vegas. If you do not like it, that is your purview. To make a qualitative assessment based on your demonstrated aptitude for analysis might be a bit presumptuous. But then again, thanks for checkin it out and I hope you find stuff you like. How about that lead trumpet....
I'm a professional trumpet player and music graduate with over 20 years experience. I've heard and seen much better examples of Stan Mark playing. His "dixieland" style solo, doesn't really fit in this arrangement. A more bopish aproach would have been better or a different arrangement. Why try to emulate Maynard's version and not do a good job? You're always going to get flamed when things don't work. Don't make any presumptions on my analytical or musical aptitudes either. Thank you.
Very interesting analysis, I did not think about it like that. I believe you raise some valid points.
Should the video be removed because it depicts Stan in a less than favorable light with respect to the rest of his career, or should it remain as an example of the big band playing that still existed in Vegas at that time and a band that Stan Mark put together and led?
The band and Stan sounding good is all wiped out by the last note. Which conversely means that if you play like crap but hit a high note your sounding good....? Ya know who would be the first to say that Stan had an A problem?...Stan.
But, enough about that, lets talk about that lead trumpet player and forget about the other section members or the outstanding drummer, or the remarkable piano player, or the ridiculous lead alto and trombone.
How does he not treat people right. I am curious, I have only heard him with maynard and on the vids in that la inst. thing. I think he is quite good.
Trombones are Sam Cernuto on lead, Ron Textor, Alan Imbach soloing and Barry Hamilfarb on bass trombone,
cernuto 2 months ago
Love Stan Mark.....got to see and meet him in Sacramento at Trad Jazz Fest....in 2001?
valleymusiccenter 9 months ago
Split lead doesn't mean someone who is playing the lead with the lead trumpet or someone who is taking stuff from the lead trumpet. Split Lead means Lead Part doubled down an octave or playing the stuff that is lead but not screaming giving the Lead guy time to rest. In Bob Curnow's LA Band recordings Wayne Bergeron will take the lead and Bobby Shew will take the Split Lead. I've seen actual Split Lead parts (usually in an optional 5th trumpet part)... FYI
bradleythekid 11 months ago
@bradleythekid That may be the case, but there are no rigid rules as to how "split lead" is organised. It's basically 2 lead players sharing the lead book.
PINCHUNO 11 months ago
That's why Stan played with Maynard for ten years you haters. Funny Stan is a well renowned musician and has down countless things with his life and all you losers can do is hate. Your super cool!
prestonmace 1 year ago
He came to my high school once. Brought a black trumpet to jazz band practice. He put his head down, placed the lips to the mouthpiece, and produced a sound we will all never, ever forget.
Ever.
bastatulant 1 year ago
Thanks for posting!
B17MIKE 1 year ago
NOt good.
PINCHUNO 2 years ago
Your expert commentary reveals much.
This is posted so that those few who know enough to search can find some of the rare clips that demonstrate what capacities existed in live big band performance throughout the history of Vegas. If you do not like it, that is your purview. To make a qualitative assessment based on your demonstrated aptitude for analysis might be a bit presumptuous. But then again, thanks for checkin it out and I hope you find stuff you like. How about that lead trumpet....
envstudent 2 years ago
I'm a professional trumpet player and music graduate with over 20 years experience. I've heard and seen much better examples of Stan Mark playing. His "dixieland" style solo, doesn't really fit in this arrangement. A more bopish aproach would have been better or a different arrangement. Why try to emulate Maynard's version and not do a good job? You're always going to get flamed when things don't work. Don't make any presumptions on my analytical or musical aptitudes either. Thank you.
PINCHUNO 2 years ago
Cool, nicely stated. So what do you think about that lead trumpet, and how about that band?
envstudent 2 years ago
The band and lead trumpet do a great job! It sounds really good.
That's why Stan's performance (taking into account his great track record) stuck out as "not so good!"
PINCHUNO 2 years ago
Very interesting analysis, I did not think about it like that. I believe you raise some valid points.
Should the video be removed because it depicts Stan in a less than favorable light with respect to the rest of his career, or should it remain as an example of the big band playing that still existed in Vegas at that time and a band that Stan Mark put together and led?
envstudent 2 years ago
way to go stan...never could play a high A
enlitened1234 2 years ago
Nice!
The band and Stan sounding good is all wiped out by the last note. Which conversely means that if you play like crap but hit a high note your sounding good....? Ya know who would be the first to say that Stan had an A problem?...Stan.
But, enough about that, lets talk about that lead trumpet player and forget about the other section members or the outstanding drummer, or the remarkable piano player, or the ridiculous lead alto and trombone.
NOPE.
Stan wrecked it.
envstudent 2 years ago
Although I am not a huge Stan Mark fan because of the way he treats others... I think this is some pretty tasteful soloing.
bradleythekid 2 years ago
How does he not treat people right. I am curious, I have only heard him with maynard and on the vids in that la inst. thing. I think he is quite good.
selector111 2 years ago
Anyone ever hear Stan's album. Autumn Leaves was a good track off of that.
cccustommusic 2 years ago