vienen acá a dar bala y a sacar coca pa luego darse cuenta que salir de este conflicto es casi que imposible. i wish i could say to FARC "rebel group" or "pure comunism", i live in Bogotá and sadly today, the farc are nothing but another "cartel de la droga"
What gives her the right to come to a foreign land to bring death and destruction? Everyone knows that FARC is not longer a leftist guerrilla group, but a band of drugs traffickers that enjoys kidnapping civilian women and innocent people. No wonder their numbers have decreased from 16,900 combatants in 2002 to a small group of 2,500. Make no mistake, this fucking whore will return to her country in a body back.
Haar lichaamstaal zegt iets heel anders dan wat ze zelf zegt..
Want tijdens het zeggen van:: "hier moet ik zijn, voor een goede zaak vechten, ze hebben me hier nodig hebben" .. Schud ze haar hoofd.. Onbewust doe je dit.. Maar dit kenmerkt zich van het niet correct vertellen wat er nu werkelijk speelt!!
this girl is a hero..has more balls then many hispanics who are slaves to their capitalist leaders..if all where like her there would be more equality in south america..but most people are too stupid to realise this
@michaelnight0141 I agree on that. I dont agree on using violence or opressing some kind of socialism but many of these idiots here on ytube are totally not aware of the problems ,exploitation, mafia shit that kapitalism brings. They dont even know there are right wing terror groups and companies who shoot indians when they dont want to leave their rightful land..an old story..repeating still.SAD
@pimenton73 you idiot moron your stupid capitalist country with so many poor people is better of with communism but you and your idiots are too stupid to see that that is why you all must be killed
Wij haten het FARC terroristen... Colombiaanse als we niet willen dat de Europeanen die betrokken zijn bij onze problemen... de meeste Europeanen denken als comunists
@andreyotal you idiot moron your stupid capitalist country with so many poor people is better of with communism but you and your idiots are too stupid to see that that is why you all must be killed
@michaelnight0141 La voz del comunismo solo habla de matar a los que no piensan igual a ellos... Sus argumentos son debiles y solo a traves de la violencia se imponen.. De Europa han salido los dictadores mas sanguinarios del mundo, En Europa han empezado las guerras mas sanguinarias, en Europa se han cometido los genocidios mas grandes, los europeos racistas han esclavizado a naciones.. Los europeos que se queden en Europa fumando mariguana y que dejen a los latinos en paz...
Stop posting stupid misleading videos about FARC criminals. Wake up!!! I hope Tanja some day escape from the hell she put herself on but Im afraid that your beloved friends from FARC probably will never let that happen
perra asquerosa se vino a q todos los hijueputas guerrilleros le rbulleran esa greda y le machucaran esos miados, en un diario de la perra ella misma lo dice, q asco una perra europea drogadicta pone chocha y fuera de eso... guerrillera, la verdad está hasta buena la puta, pero es q para q una zorra caiga tan bajo XDDDDDDDDD.
ah y otra cosa gonorreas: es preferible in millon de veces un narcotraficante a un sucio hijueputa guerrillero de las farc-
Lastima por esta confundida Holandesa que pensó que las farc eran unos robinhood. y se dio cuenta tarde que no era así. Según escuche esta holandesa murió en el bombardeo a Carlos Antonio Losada un cabecilla de las farc que dicen que salio tan mal herido que perdió una pierna incluso que pudo haber muerto días después. de la holandesa no se sabe nada excepto que pudo haber muerto en el bombardeo y enterrada como cualquier animal en la selva.
Esa noticia la escuche en la radio en los días que salio la desaparición de la Holandesa. Según la noticia en el bombardeo a Carlos Antonio Losada informantes contaron que lo vieron gravemente herido en una pierna; pero nada se sabe de la holandesa excepto que pertenecía al grupo de Losada, (Y si así quedo el cabecilla imaginemos una mujer inexperta que por lo que veo se equivoco de bando)
entonces que bando debió meterse Tanja? al de los paramilitares! parcero esagente es un millón de veces mas pelígrosa. Una Colombia libre de ejército paras y guerrilla, la misma escoria, gatilleros asesinos.
This bitch will die, i hope she does. Otherwise she will have to face the Colombian justice, this is her future, dead, or jail. She got tire of living in paradise. what an idiot.
apparently you are unaware of colombia's demobilisation drive. She'll perhaps escape back to civilisation and will be re-introduced into normal civilian life.
Como se nota que viven bien en Holanda y se aburren, por eso necesitan un poco de accion, algo asi como jugar a ser Indiana Jones, ayudando a hacer la guerra en Colombia, esta chica es estupida.
Como holandes, le doy razon, lastimamente. Muchos jovenes alla estan picados por el bicho de los años sesenta y piensan que el Che era un hombre noble igual a Jesucristo. Y cometen zoquetadas como estas.
Los Jovenes Colombianos no pensamos asi, los jovenes colombianos estamos cansados de la guerra y queremos trabajar por nuestro pais, en paz. Por eso no admiramos a ningun Che guevara, esta claro que el comunismo no funciona.
@freddygaviria Totalmente de acuerdo contigo, ojalá no le haya pasado nada a la Holandesa, pero debe de recapacitar y entender que las FARC no son los honorables guerrilleros que dicen ser. Ellos no son más que terroristas asociados con narcotraficantes que están destruyendo nuestro pais.
le cae la madre el comandante guevara fue un hombre de lucha de ideas de cambios de principios y por supuesto que cometió errores al igual que todos los seres humanos pero hay que ver una esperanza en el cambio de américa latina y si es con diplomacia tendra que ser con armas por que los pueblos oprimidos de américa ya no están dispuestos a tolerar los abusos de un imperio manipulador que hace lo que le viene en gana con las naciones oprimidas
pobre tanja seguro todo el secretariado ya se la ha culiado.....quien lo creyera tan indios estos pirobos guerrillos y ya han comido carne blanca europea....
wat een dom kutje..... ik woon in colombia en kan je zeggen dat zij zich niet echt populair maakt.vechten voor een organisatie die burgers en toeristen vermoord...en waarvoor? drugs..... geld....macht... denk na voordat je haar uberhaupt een held vind, belachelijke commentaar van de meest domme mensen, voordat je iets zegt over het farc , verdiep je dan iets meer in de materie.. zielig volk, je zit zeker veilig in nederland, dab is het makkelijk wat te schrijven he?
Groeten uit Venezuela. Hier is Tanja volstrekt onbekend, maar niet de meer dan 60 Venezolaanse ontvoerden waar meneer Chavez geen bal om geeft. Nu zegt hij "met zekerheid" te weten dat ze niet door de FARC zijn ontvoerd. Door wie dan, señor presidente?
De handen van de FARC en de ELN zijn uitputtend bewezen in afgewikkelde ontvoeringszaken van Venezolanen. Chavez liegt, de FARC eveneens, en Uribe denk ik ook. Wat een rotzooi. En dan komt zo een dom wicht ook nog even meekaarten. Als ze dood is is het echt haar eigen schuld, hoe spijtig ook.
Verrassing: de FARC commandanten denken ook dat ze lekker is. Lees haar dagboek maar eens. U zou net als ik in de regio moeten wonen, dan weet u hoe er over meisjes als Tanja gedacht wordt hier.
You really don´t know what you´re talking about. You don´t live in the region as I do. You should inform yourself better instead of putting these stupidities on the net. The FARC are just as terrorist as the ELN and the paramilitary groups, and all deserve to be smashed.
Right Luke64. You forgot the NSA by the way. We AGREE, you and me, about those groups. Then be careful next time before telling the world that you would join the FARC if you were younger. Because after what you´re saying now, it seemed like you would join just another gang of criminals. Don´t participate in something you don´t understand, that´s my friendly advice...
...Latin American reality is just a different planet from where Tanja and you come from. To use Lenin´s words, Tanja is just another "useful idiot". Sure you don´t want to be called that way? Keep to your own. Greetings from Caracas.
And as for you: I am an EU citizen as well, by chance. And I know that Holland doesn´t support the cause Tanja has thrown her life away for. Would you follow her and kill and maim innocent farmers, and kidnap innocent people? Kill them if they don´t pay ransom? Go on and say yes, then I´ll take you seriously.
All parties in the Colombian war are bastards, and that includes the paramilitary and the politicians. Sign up, and you´ll become one of them. You don´t understand that the only real good side are the thousands and thousands of murdered peasants and the thousands of children maimed by landmines laid by the FARC and the ELN. Better YOU wake up.
Ok I invite you to come to Colombia and to see what us (Colombian citizens) have to say about the Farc. They have not cause they are criminals who found in drug dealling, kidnapping and other crimes the way to get money easily.
I don't know why foreigners think there's a dictatorialship in Colombia.
I think you only read anncol, and only listen to radio frequencies from those terrorist groups that currently, they are like Pablo Escobar in the late 80's and early 90's. There's no difference between Pablo Escobar and the Farc.
As I told you before, come to Colombia and see with your own eyes what really Colombia is and what all "good things" farc has made are...
Otherwise you are only having a biased info in a country that really is far from Colombia.
1.I nowhere said I'm an expert, BUT I do NOT need to travel to your (?) country, I do not believe mainstream media + I am TOO busy with Dutch class struggle;
2.You know as well as me, that Chávez probably said this for tactical reasons since they (US/Uribe) tried to set him up with the found amounts of money, and other slander. You know that he shortly before that stated the actual truth: FARC is legitimate Colomb. army;
3.Even IF Chávez MEANT it, then I still don't have to agree with him.
Blah, blah, blah, Ok, don't believe the mainstream media. Just check in youtube what people who is from Colombia says about the Farc.
I think it doesn't makes sense to talk to you anymore because you won't take anything I'll say and you are so biased believing anything about the "heros" of the farc that anything I tell you will turn out to be a waste of time.
BTW. You are commenting on a Dutch vid. THIS was a vid that was mainly suppressed by mainstream Uribe controlled media, did you know that. So I hope you really do understand Dutch. Here, they censored most of what Eileen, peace & justice upon that heroine, mostly said...
NOOOOO, it says simply to the right (arrow--->) "RTV NOORD", it is the regional TV of the province of Groningen (which is in our North). She lived and studied there (hm, Spanish..). We here are not really under the censorship of Uribe and his henchmen.
But I can see that you are not an expert on the Netherlands.
First of all the video is about a Colombian situation, what is the main spoken language in Colombia? SPANISH.
Even though the video is spoken in Dutch, the main theme is about Colombia and about a woman who had good ideals but because of missinformation joined a terrorist group that has only left pain and suffering to Colombia.
And this is sad to see how those terrorist groups have brainwashed good people's brains like hers.
No, you haven't answered that. I have told foreigners before to come to Colombia. And what you've said is you don't need to come to Colombia, you don't believe the mainstream media, the farc has brought democracy to Colombia (LOL). So then I ask you, why don't you come to colombia? are you scared?
again, if you are so sure that all taht you say is true. Come and join Tanja and the farc. We both can be completely sure they would be happy to receive another dumb european to their lines, by the way yo could have the support of the "mass of the Colombian
The only thing I can't tell you again is that come to Colombia, live in Colombia (join the farc if you want to) and then, take your own conclussions. Otherwise, you will always have biased information.
Avginkel! Aprecio mucho tus palabras. Yo soy de Caracas y entiendo tu rechazo a las FARC. Disculpa, pero que es lo que dice Tanja en su video? Estoy super interesado en saber exactamente como ella racionaliza permanecer en las FARC? Apreciaria muchisimo tu traduccion! Gracias de antemano!
Yo tambien vivo en Caracas. Lo que ella dice es que ella extraña muchisimo a su familia, pero que ella piensa que esta luchando por una causa justa y que nunca se va a ir de alla.
this is for "rtvnoord" i hear that you say something about "the ministry of defence"-""Defence secretary" towards the end of the video. please dont believe what he says, that man( Juan Manuel Santos) is a liar, he is from the Santos Family, the owners of the principal Colombian media -EL Tiempo (newspaper), Semana and Cambio (magazines), etc- they manipulate public opinion as they wanted, the vicepresident is also from the same family, coincidence?
vienen acá a dar bala y a sacar coca pa luego darse cuenta que salir de este conflicto es casi que imposible. i wish i could say to FARC "rebel group" or "pure comunism", i live in Bogotá and sadly today, the farc are nothing but another "cartel de la droga"
disslb 1 year ago
waa een lilleke kut hoer.
Ik kom uit Colombia maar hier geloof ik dus geen zak van en Nederland moet zich er niet mee bemoeien. CZO!! LYO
MultiCleveland12 1 year ago
PezpaqTV (channel)..funny vid about Tanja..Viva!
SiouxSyndicate 1 year ago
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What gives her the right to come to a foreign land to bring death and destruction? Everyone knows that FARC is not longer a leftist guerrilla group, but a band of drugs traffickers that enjoys kidnapping civilian women and innocent people. No wonder their numbers have decreased from 16,900 combatants in 2002 to a small group of 2,500. Make no mistake, this fucking whore will return to her country in a body back.
PuroMandinga 1 year ago
Haar lichaamstaal zegt iets heel anders dan wat ze zelf zegt..
Want tijdens het zeggen van:: "hier moet ik zijn, voor een goede zaak vechten, ze hebben me hier nodig hebben" .. Schud ze haar hoofd.. Onbewust doe je dit.. Maar dit kenmerkt zich van het niet correct vertellen wat er nu werkelijk speelt!!
Rol80 1 year ago
this girl is a hero..has more balls then many hispanics who are slaves to their capitalist leaders..if all where like her there would be more equality in south america..but most people are too stupid to realise this
michaelnight0141 1 year ago
@michaelnight0141 I agree on that. I dont agree on using violence or opressing some kind of socialism but many of these idiots here on ytube are totally not aware of the problems ,exploitation, mafia shit that kapitalism brings. They dont even know there are right wing terror groups and companies who shoot indians when they dont want to leave their rightful land..an old story..repeating still.SAD
SiouxSyndicate 1 year ago
Muere maldita perra comunista....!!!! Die you fucking comunist bitch....!!!!
pimenton73 1 year ago
@pimenton73 you idiot moron your stupid capitalist country with so many poor people is better of with communism but you and your idiots are too stupid to see that that is why you all must be killed
michaelnight0141 1 year ago
Pobre muchacha, se encuentra entre la espada y la pared. ¿La dejarán irse las FARC?
melalitasan 1 year ago
zo die Tanja, lekker ding... ;-)
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pretmeted7 1 year ago
Wij haten het FARC terroristen... Colombiaanse als we niet willen dat de Europeanen die betrokken zijn bij onze problemen... de meeste Europeanen denken als comunists
andreyotal 1 year ago
@andreyotal you idiot moron your stupid capitalist country with so many poor people is better of with communism but you and your idiots are too stupid to see that that is why you all must be killed
michaelnight0141 1 year ago
@michaelnight0141 he michael, didn't you know that communism died 15 years ago ??
It died because it brought poverty and oppression to the people.
prosperice countries are the capitalist countries.
koertje 10 months ago
@michaelnight0141 La voz del comunismo solo habla de matar a los que no piensan igual a ellos... Sus argumentos son debiles y solo a traves de la violencia se imponen.. De Europa han salido los dictadores mas sanguinarios del mundo, En Europa han empezado las guerras mas sanguinarias, en Europa se han cometido los genocidios mas grandes, los europeos racistas han esclavizado a naciones.. Los europeos que se queden en Europa fumando mariguana y que dejen a los latinos en paz...
andreyotal 7 months ago
linksmensch
1121s 1 year ago
Please 1rst world European people.
Stop posting stupid misleading videos about FARC criminals. Wake up!!! I hope Tanja some day escape from the hell she put herself on but Im afraid that your beloved friends from FARC probably will never let that happen
kusanagi73 2 years ago
perra asquerosa se vino a q todos los hijueputas guerrilleros le rbulleran esa greda y le machucaran esos miados, en un diario de la perra ella misma lo dice, q asco una perra europea drogadicta pone chocha y fuera de eso... guerrillera, la verdad está hasta buena la puta, pero es q para q una zorra caiga tan bajo XDDDDDDDDD.
ah y otra cosa gonorreas: es preferible in millon de veces un narcotraficante a un sucio hijueputa guerrillero de las farc-
q le hagan una necropsia a estos hijueputas
calitri1257 3 years ago
For backgrounds on truth about Betancourt 'liberation' deal see, here on YT :
"Ingrid Betancourt ¿rescate o interceptación? PASCUAL SERRANO"
(MPaisValencia)
Leibo07 3 years ago
Viva FARC; Raúl Reyes; ELN; Che;
el Proyecto Bolivarian, y
Eileen
Leibo07 3 years ago
Lastima por esta confundida Holandesa que pensó que las farc eran unos robinhood. y se dio cuenta tarde que no era así. Según escuche esta holandesa murió en el bombardeo a Carlos Antonio Losada un cabecilla de las farc que dicen que salio tan mal herido que perdió una pierna incluso que pudo haber muerto días después. de la holandesa no se sabe nada excepto que pudo haber muerto en el bombardeo y enterrada como cualquier animal en la selva.
remoto05 4 years ago
¿donde escuchaste esa noticia?
laotleb 3 years ago
Esa noticia la escuche en la radio en los días que salio la desaparición de la Holandesa. Según la noticia en el bombardeo a Carlos Antonio Losada informantes contaron que lo vieron gravemente herido en una pierna; pero nada se sabe de la holandesa excepto que pertenecía al grupo de Losada, (Y si así quedo el cabecilla imaginemos una mujer inexperta que por lo que veo se equivoco de bando)
remoto05 3 years ago
ok, gracias
danieldacroix 3 years ago
entonces que bando debió meterse Tanja? al de los paramilitares! parcero esagente es un millón de veces mas pelígrosa. Una Colombia libre de ejército paras y guerrilla, la misma escoria, gatilleros asesinos.
antifascistayparaco 2 years ago
@antifascistayparaco
Speak English Spanish fucker!
maatwerk67 1 year ago
This bitch will die, i hope she does. Otherwise she will have to face the Colombian justice, this is her future, dead, or jail. She got tire of living in paradise. what an idiot.
great1azul 4 years ago
apparently you are unaware of colombia's demobilisation drive. She'll perhaps escape back to civilisation and will be re-introduced into normal civilian life.
internaut101 4 years ago
Como se nota que viven bien en Holanda y se aburren, por eso necesitan un poco de accion, algo asi como jugar a ser Indiana Jones, ayudando a hacer la guerra en Colombia, esta chica es estupida.
freddygaviria 4 years ago 2
Como holandes, le doy razon, lastimamente. Muchos jovenes alla estan picados por el bicho de los años sesenta y piensan que el Che era un hombre noble igual a Jesucristo. Y cometen zoquetadas como estas.
avginkel 4 years ago 3
Los Jovenes Colombianos no pensamos asi, los jovenes colombianos estamos cansados de la guerra y queremos trabajar por nuestro pais, en paz. Por eso no admiramos a ningun Che guevara, esta claro que el comunismo no funciona.
freddygaviria 4 years ago 8
@freddygaviria Totalmente de acuerdo contigo, ojalá no le haya pasado nada a la Holandesa, pero debe de recapacitar y entender que las FARC no son los honorables guerrilleros que dicen ser. Ellos no son más que terroristas asociados con narcotraficantes que están destruyendo nuestro pais.
HernanDroid 1 year ago
le cae la madre el comandante guevara fue un hombre de lucha de ideas de cambios de principios y por supuesto que cometió errores al igual que todos los seres humanos pero hay que ver una esperanza en el cambio de américa latina y si es con diplomacia tendra que ser con armas por que los pueblos oprimidos de américa ya no están dispuestos a tolerar los abusos de un imperio manipulador que hace lo que le viene en gana con las naciones oprimidas
frankmiler1995 9 months ago
Como ella existen miles de Tanja... ¡¡¡adelante compañeras!!! mil veces venceremos...!!! Hasta la Victoria Siempre.!!
Carloncho68 4 years ago
muerte y sufrimiento a todos los cerdos rojos FARC y todas las putas marxistas... come mierda!!!
BubbytheTourG 4 years ago
Estupido.
avginkel 4 years ago
pobre tanja seguro todo el secretariado ya se la ha culiado.....quien lo creyera tan indios estos pirobos guerrillos y ya han comido carne blanca europea....
cealunatic 4 years ago 2
Sin duda...
avginkel 4 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
poor woman.
death to killer and kidnnapers of FARC.
viva colombia
paramilitary land.
y viva pablo escobar gaviria.
elunico y verdadero antiimperialista que ha tenido este pais
eazy435 4 years ago
wat een dom kutje..... ik woon in colombia en kan je zeggen dat zij zich niet echt populair maakt.vechten voor een organisatie die burgers en toeristen vermoord...en waarvoor? drugs..... geld....macht... denk na voordat je haar uberhaupt een held vind, belachelijke commentaar van de meest domme mensen, voordat je iets zegt over het farc , verdiep je dan iets meer in de materie.. zielig volk, je zit zeker veilig in nederland, dab is het makkelijk wat te schrijven he?
bestiales 4 years ago
Groeten uit Venezuela. Hier is Tanja volstrekt onbekend, maar niet de meer dan 60 Venezolaanse ontvoerden waar meneer Chavez geen bal om geeft. Nu zegt hij "met zekerheid" te weten dat ze niet door de FARC zijn ontvoerd. Door wie dan, señor presidente?
avginkel 4 years ago
De handen van de FARC en de ELN zijn uitputtend bewezen in afgewikkelde ontvoeringszaken van Venezolanen. Chavez liegt, de FARC eveneens, en Uribe denk ik ook. Wat een rotzooi. En dan komt zo een dom wicht ook nog even meekaarten. Als ze dood is is het echt haar eigen schuld, hoe spijtig ook.
avginkel 4 years ago
-.-'' jullie sukkels denken echt alleenmaar aan dat ze lekker is. Er zouden meer van dit soort meisjes moeten zijn
hildehuismans 4 years ago
Verrassing: de FARC commandanten denken ook dat ze lekker is. Lees haar dagboek maar eens. U zou net als ik in de regio moeten wonen, dan weet u hoe er over meisjes als Tanja gedacht wordt hier.
avginkel 4 years ago
Why a pretty girl as Tanja goes into the woods!
I don't get it
nieuwsjunk 4 years ago
Because she is a stupid ignorant that thought that the war is just an extreme sport.
davfer80 4 years ago
viva, Tanja.
Smash the white wing bastards.
The majority of EU support u.
Keep on fighting against those terrorists.
Luke64 4 years ago
You really don´t know what you´re talking about. You don´t live in the region as I do. You should inform yourself better instead of putting these stupidities on the net. The FARC are just as terrorist as the ELN and the paramilitary groups, and all deserve to be smashed.
avginkel 4 years ago
well, how about the AUC, and the CIA.
don´t blame las FARC and ELN only.
Justice for eweryone,pal.
Luke64 4 years ago
Right Luke64. You forgot the NSA by the way. We AGREE, you and me, about those groups. Then be careful next time before telling the world that you would join the FARC if you were younger. Because after what you´re saying now, it seemed like you would join just another gang of criminals. Don´t participate in something you don´t understand, that´s my friendly advice...
avginkel 4 years ago
thanx, for your tip,pal.
we all have principals of our own.
Luke64 4 years ago
lucas desmovilizate tu familia te espera.
great1azul 4 years ago
...Latin American reality is just a different planet from where Tanja and you come from. To use Lenin´s words, Tanja is just another "useful idiot". Sure you don´t want to be called that way? Keep to your own. Greetings from Caracas.
avginkel 4 years ago
And as for you: I am an EU citizen as well, by chance. And I know that Holland doesn´t support the cause Tanja has thrown her life away for. Would you follow her and kill and maim innocent farmers, and kidnap innocent people? Kill them if they don´t pay ransom? Go on and say yes, then I´ll take you seriously.
avginkel 4 years ago
if i were younger, i´d surely join las FARC.
Pal, a war is dirty, u know that.
Do u think that white wing terrorists are MF angels.
Wake up dude,´ll u?
Luke64 4 years ago
All parties in the Colombian war are bastards, and that includes the paramilitary and the politicians. Sign up, and you´ll become one of them. You don´t understand that the only real good side are the thousands and thousands of murdered peasants and the thousands of children maimed by landmines laid by the FARC and the ELN. Better YOU wake up.
avginkel 4 years ago
Ok I invite you to come to Colombia and to see what us (Colombian citizens) have to say about the Farc. They have not cause they are criminals who found in drug dealling, kidnapping and other crimes the way to get money easily.
I don't know why foreigners think there's a dictatorialship in Colombia.
wake up, come here!!
laotleb 4 years ago
Well, we KNOW that that bit of present day democracy is DUE to FARC/ELN.
Leibo07 3 years ago
hahahahahaha.
I think you only read anncol, and only listen to radio frequencies from those terrorist groups that currently, they are like Pablo Escobar in the late 80's and early 90's. There's no difference between Pablo Escobar and the Farc.
As I told you before, come to Colombia and see with your own eyes what really Colombia is and what all "good things" farc has made are...
Otherwise you are only having a biased info in a country that really is far from Colombia.
Come and see...
laotleb 3 years ago
I am willing to believe you that you live in Columbia. (As if that would mean much)
But in which century do you live?
Leibo07 3 years ago
I thik it is a question you yourself should answer instead of me. ¿don't you see?
Even Chavez has changed his opinion toward the guerrillas he's said groups like them have no reason to exist any longer in these moments.
Go and watch this video:
chávez a las farc: es hora de liberar a todos los rehenes
There's a part he says "la guerrilla pasó a la historia"
I expect at least you speak Spanish (since you think you are an expert in topics like Colombian situation, guerrillas, etc)
laotleb 3 years ago
1.I nowhere said I'm an expert, BUT I do NOT need to travel to your (?) country, I do not believe mainstream media + I am TOO busy with Dutch class struggle;
2.You know as well as me, that Chávez probably said this for tactical reasons since they (US/Uribe) tried to set him up with the found amounts of money, and other slander. You know that he shortly before that stated the actual truth: FARC is legitimate Colomb. army;
3.Even IF Chávez MEANT it, then I still don't have to agree with him.
Leibo07 3 years ago
Blah, blah, blah, Ok, don't believe the mainstream media. Just check in youtube what people who is from Colombia says about the Farc.
I think it doesn't makes sense to talk to you anymore because you won't take anything I'll say and you are so biased believing anything about the "heros" of the farc that anything I tell you will turn out to be a waste of time.
laotleb 3 years ago
I agree with your proposal...
(but not with your 'analysis' ofc.)
BTW. You are commenting on a Dutch vid. THIS was a vid that was mainly suppressed by mainstream Uribe controlled media, did you know that. So I hope you really do understand Dutch. Here, they censored most of what Eileen, peace & justice upon that heroine, mostly said...
Leibo07 3 years ago
who told you this video was supressed... ANNCOL, TELESUR, any Dutch radiofrequency that supports the Farc in Holland?
laotleb 3 years ago
NOOOOO, it says simply to the right (arrow--->) "RTV NOORD", it is the regional TV of the province of Groningen (which is in our North). She lived and studied there (hm, Spanish..). We here are not really under the censorship of Uribe and his henchmen.
But I can see that you are not an expert on the Netherlands.
Leibo07 3 years ago
you are not expert in Colombia either
laotleb 3 years ago
So : are YOU an expert of Dutch language ?
Leibo07 3 years ago
First of all the video is about a Colombian situation, what is the main spoken language in Colombia? SPANISH.
Even though the video is spoken in Dutch, the main theme is about Colombia and about a woman who had good ideals but because of missinformation joined a terrorist group that has only left pain and suffering to Colombia.
And this is sad to see how those terrorist groups have brainwashed good people's brains like hers.
laotleb 3 years ago
Then I conclude that you can not POSSIBLY have apprehended he actual info about her. It's all in Dutch.
This only just dawned on me a few minutes ago, ahaha.
TALKING ABOUT BIASED !!
Leibo07 3 years ago
By the way, why wouldn't you come to Colombia, are you frightened about what could happen to you in here?
LOL
laotleb 3 years ago
You keep ranting on about something I already answered.
Leibo07 3 years ago
No, you haven't answered that. I have told foreigners before to come to Colombia. And what you've said is you don't need to come to Colombia, you don't believe the mainstream media, the farc has brought democracy to Colombia (LOL). So then I ask you, why don't you come to colombia? are you scared?
laotleb 3 years ago
again, if you are so sure that all taht you say is true. Come and join Tanja and the farc. We both can be completely sure they would be happy to receive another dumb european to their lines, by the way yo could have the support of the "mass of the Colombian
people" LOL
laotleb 3 years ago
The only thing I can't tell you again is that come to Colombia, live in Colombia (join the farc if you want to) and then, take your own conclussions. Otherwise, you will always have biased information.
laotleb 3 years ago
Gracias por invitación!
Be assured that I, from my standpoint here, support the mass of the Colombian people and their legitimate defenders !
Bye bye
Leibo07 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Dream on baby
laotleb 3 years ago
You are such an idiot, why don't you shut up.
great1azul 4 years ago
Avginkel! Aprecio mucho tus palabras. Yo soy de Caracas y entiendo tu rechazo a las FARC. Disculpa, pero que es lo que dice Tanja en su video? Estoy super interesado en saber exactamente como ella racionaliza permanecer en las FARC? Apreciaria muchisimo tu traduccion! Gracias de antemano!
sjot2006 4 years ago
Yo tambien vivo en Caracas. Lo que ella dice es que ella extraña muchisimo a su familia, pero que ella piensa que esta luchando por una causa justa y que nunca se va a ir de alla.
avginkel 4 years ago
Gracias Avginkel. Aprecio la traduccion. Feliz fin de semana!
sjot2006 4 years ago
this is for "rtvnoord" i hear that you say something about "the ministry of defence"-""Defence secretary" towards the end of the video. please dont believe what he says, that man( Juan Manuel Santos) is a liar, he is from the Santos Family, the owners of the principal Colombian media -EL Tiempo (newspaper), Semana and Cambio (magazines), etc- they manipulate public opinion as they wanted, the vicepresident is also from the same family, coincidence?
LaMoncha 4 years ago
She sis sooo hot... im thinking in getting into the FARC to meeting her hehehehe
LaMoncha 4 years ago
English or spanish subtitles please.
kollektorkollektor 4 years ago