You need to reread my post. My point is not how much HP, but how long it will last. A 15 year old motor with alot of miles with stock pistons/rods making over 400HP will live a short life
If a stock that is tuned properly is good for 500hp wht wouldn't you use forged rods and pistons? Ford put forged pistons in their 87-92 5.0 Mustangs. Forged pistons/rods in 03-04 Cobra which made about 360rwhp. The 2003 Lightning had forged rods/pistons. The point is that Ford put forged rods/pistons in many late model HO cars making much less than 500hp, so why not a stock block set-up making 450hp. Stock rods/pistons in a stock block making 425hp will definitley fail @ race conditions,
lol ok buddy: get out and race it like its built to do, put some nice wheels on it, get a cool paint job...Hopefully you havent already wrecked it haha just joking around bud, Nice Stang!
forgive me, I'm not familiar with superchargers, what is needed to bolt on a superchrager kit to a 302, like what internals are needed, cams, rods, pistons, lifters, etc,? I've heard a stock 302 can handle a kit with low boost, but idk how much. Is a supercharger kit hard to install and does alot of the engine components need to be removed to bolt it on??
@spuds355 check trick flows webpage..... the valve cover gaskets can be stock. but if you are using stock valve covers with aftermarket rockers, you WILL have to grind out a ton of shit from the inside of the valve cover for them to clear. its alot easier to just buy a diff set of valve covers. if you go with the taller trick flow covers, make sure you get a 1" plenum spacer for between your upper and lower intake so the upper clears them
are these the 1's u have Mustang Cylinder Heads,Twisted Wedge Fast As Cast, Aluminum, Assembled, 61Cc Chambers, 190Cc Intake, Ford, Pair by Trick Flow?
smog pump has been LOOOONG gone. cobra intake is what i have had, the lower is ported. eventually i will go to a systemax 2 intake.. letting this how it is for now, looking for an STi as a dd
well The pistons and rods are forged but the cranks isnt but that doesnt mean it wont hold....the stock internals will hold MORE hp and torque than the stock block will. I am running a supercharged HCI combo on my stang making 540 rwhp and it is a BONE STOCK bottom end 302
I have read the other comments about you not using a forged crank, I have beat the living hell out of my stock bottom end, and I sprayed every week on Thursdays at the track, and in case you are wondering it is still going strong, I took the whole enging apart, and put new rings on the same pistons!! The bore looks like new and their is no cracks in the block!! FTW Ford built these little 5.0s right!
what is it with you guys running stock bottem ends go get foged pistons forged h-beam rods forged steel crank shaft then you wont be blowin shit up so easy most people out there know when you use super chargers and nitrous your bottom end has to be all forged you can not use stock bottem end parts othere wise youll keep blowin your shit up just thought id tell ya for you can save money in the long run
Because the pre 93 5.0's had forged pistons from the factory and if you run a safe tune and don't beat the crap out of the car the stock, thin webbed, low nickle block will split like a hot dog bun before the swing assembly quits. Why waste money on forged everything if you have to run at a power level that is safe enough for everything because of a weak block? Spend the money on a better block then add your forged parts ;)
@ATPengineering or just run the completely stock bottom end until it pops. then get new block and internals! the 5.0 is tougher then alot of people give it credit for. altough i will agree the block are only good to mabye 450ish rwhp.
what happened to the bottom end?? and how much power u runnin?? stock block?? i got sorta the same setup just no stock oparts, and am pushin 550 rwhp and dont wanan crack the block. just wonder how others are doin with that
i put out 405 on mustang dyno, but the people who rebuilt it instaed the thrust bearing wrong so all my bearing were wipped within 1 week. didnt know till i lost all oil pressure at about a month. we rebuilt it with serious port work and .040 speed pro forged pistons. head and main studs. about to drop it back in. should be around 500hp at the wheels. i just dont waa crack it, we will go with a mild tune. keep her around 450hp. you get no traction anyways. whats ur full set up??
Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Cobra Upper and Lower Mani. lower portmatched to gaskets, Vortech S trim, Anderson Power Pipe, Anderson B-31 Cam, Anderson Valve Springs, 70mm TB, SCF b4200 MAF, SCF switch Chip tune by CRT performance in norwalk ohio, 42# injectors
intank and inline 255lph fuel pumps, Fbody electric fans, MSD digital 6, Blaster Coil, Tremec TKO. Spec Stage 2 clutch, lakewood bellhousing, Moser Axles
i got a 93 witha vortech v-1 t-trim i has 450 hp with 6 psi the last time dynoed but i put a afm powerpipe on it now its got 10 psi... your car sonds great
well. it's 331 time now. when i pulled it apart, the rotating assembly looks to be junk. so i guess im going bigger. i think i do need to go to some bigger fuel rails now though.
i got the same supercharger, but lose the cobra intake, go with bbk ss1 intake, i replaced my cobra intake and i now run 3 tenths faster with the bbk intake, good luck
my lower is ported to match my heads. not sure the difference that makes, but i did like the bbk, especially because it is paired with the high flow rails
nice setup, but plan on rebuilding your bottom end soon. im runnin 11psi with my t-trim vortech and i blew my stock bottom end after like 5 months. i also have the top end built thoguh
believe me, ive had a 331 in my sights for a long time. if i dont blow it this summer i may go back to a turbo setup. (kid depending :x ) we'll see. tuning is expensive
yep. when u rebuilt my bottom end i put keith blacvk hyperutectic pistons in, big mistake. 3 days ao i lost oil pressue because one piston melted a hole again and my rings and all bearings were fryed. so now im into rebuilding it again
that crank is not forged steel man i know iv been inside those motors only think that might be forged is the pistons thats it not the crank or the rods anser this question was the weld on the crank a big fat weld or a long shoe strink thick weld anser this correctly then ill quit arguing with you
im not arguing. what blew was a headgasket, which wore a gouge in my aluminum head. when i took the block apart to deck it, i noticed the 3 and 7 pistons looked trashed. so i either ran lean and detonated at some point or had low oil pressure. the block is still fine.
stock blocks are good to upwards of 500hp. which i was in that range. i gambled and lost. so be it, bigger and better to come
Going to the turbo was a much better idea. I've had both and the turbo rules. Bone stock 92 block with 147,000 miles and a 62 mm Turbonetics laid down 444.6 HP to the wheels and 538 lb/ft of torque. The blower with the same boost made 321 hp and only 370 on torque.
Im planning on making it back to a turbo setup. id like to get a time at the track before i take the blower off. i blew a headgasket and ruined an aluminum head. so once i fix that im going to get some times and probably end up turbo. im content where i am.... im sick of dropping so much on cars.
You need to reread my post. My point is not how much HP, but how long it will last. A 15 year old motor with alot of miles with stock pistons/rods making over 400HP will live a short life
reefblue331 1 month ago
are u runnin a oil line from the engine
hittman561 4 months ago
@hittman561 yeah. Off the oil feed.
Chadnel25 3 months ago
If a stock that is tuned properly is good for 500hp wht wouldn't you use forged rods and pistons? Ford put forged pistons in their 87-92 5.0 Mustangs. Forged pistons/rods in 03-04 Cobra which made about 360rwhp. The 2003 Lightning had forged rods/pistons. The point is that Ford put forged rods/pistons in many late model HO cars making much less than 500hp, so why not a stock block set-up making 450hp. Stock rods/pistons in a stock block making 425hp will definitley fail @ race conditions,
reefblue331 4 months ago
@reefblue331 WRONG. ive seen Foxbodies make well over that with just head swap, cam, intake, headers, exhaust, and spray.
The91efcivic 2 months ago
Have you dyno'd it yet? Or ran it down the track?
CamboCaC 6 months ago
Its the trick Flow A/C delete kit.
Chadnel25 6 months ago
Why is your belt tensioner set up like that?
gwilder97 6 months ago
No blower :( . Nice procharger tho
D3ATHR3HAB 6 months ago
@martian010 ur kidding right? u have no fucking clue
91fiveohnotch 9 months ago
nope, no intercooler.
Chadnel25 11 months ago
do you have an intercooler?
jesusmustangguy 11 months ago
very nice
Cody497 1 year ago
lol ok buddy: get out and race it like its built to do, put some nice wheels on it, get a cool paint job...Hopefully you havent already wrecked it haha just joking around bud, Nice Stang!
MicahLeviClark 1 year ago
Ok drive it already, then wheels and paint if you dont wreck it the first week lol
MicahLeviClark 1 year ago
@MicahLeviClark
Mind rephrasing that in english?
Chadnel25 1 year ago
Those porno red interiors only look good on black Mustangs :)
Nice ride.
CrazyTacky 1 year ago
forgive me, I'm not familiar with superchargers, what is needed to bolt on a superchrager kit to a 302, like what internals are needed, cams, rods, pistons, lifters, etc,? I've heard a stock 302 can handle a kit with low boost, but idk how much. Is a supercharger kit hard to install and does alot of the engine components need to be removed to bolt it on??
martian010 1 year ago
How much power u making?? R u using a FMU or injectors and a tune??
Lqqked 1 year ago
sounds nasty! what cam did u have before the b31 and did it make a big difference?
cobra4v98 1 year ago
love the sound of a camed car
TheCrazydriver101 1 year ago
How much what?
Chadnel25 1 year ago
@Chadnel25 do you have an intercooler?
jesusmustangguy 11 months ago
how much?
MrRapedick 1 year ago
by the way nice mustang
rp94cobra 1 year ago
is that a stock block?
spuds355 1 year ago
how much hp does this have and is it a stock block?
spuds355 1 year ago
does in hum nice when u get on it?
spuds355 1 year ago
what vortech is that
spuds355 1 year ago
@spuds355
V2 S-trim
Chadnel25 1 year ago
im going to run your same setup but gonna put afr 185's insted becasue i hear they are the best heads but costly
spuds355 1 year ago
thanks for all the help and are you running studs or bolts i was going to get gt40x heads but trick flow are better
spuds355 1 year ago
@spuds355 ARP studs
Chadnel25 1 year ago
what head/intake/exhasut /valve cover gaskets do you need for twished wedge with a stock 302 block
spuds355 1 year ago
@spuds355 check trick flows webpage..... the valve cover gaskets can be stock. but if you are using stock valve covers with aftermarket rockers, you WILL have to grind out a ton of shit from the inside of the valve cover for them to clear. its alot easier to just buy a diff set of valve covers. if you go with the taller trick flow covers, make sure you get a 1" plenum spacer for between your upper and lower intake so the upper clears them
Chadnel25 1 year ago
what is the difference between o ring trick flow and non o ring
spuds355 1 year ago
are these the 1's u have Mustang Cylinder Heads,Twisted Wedge Fast As Cast, Aluminum, Assembled, 61Cc Chambers, 190Cc Intake, Ford, Pair by Trick Flow?
spuds355 1 year ago
@spuds355 i think the TFS-51400002
Chadnel25 1 year ago
will a b303 cam work with these heads
spuds355 1 year ago
@spuds355 id assume it would. Im running an anderson motorsports B31 cam
Chadnel25 1 year ago
i was looking at afr165 but you need special machining for the head gaskets i got the same setup as you with vortech cobra intake 42lb injectors
spuds355 1 year ago
@spuds355 If anything id shoot for a 185cc head.
Chadnel25 1 year ago
how much boost are you running and what heads do you have
spuds355 1 year ago
@spuds355
about 13# and Trick Flow Twisted Wedge
Chadnel25 1 year ago
do the have 42lb ev6 body casue they look better there not fat like the ev1's
spuds355 1 year ago
what type of 42lb injectors did u get the ford racing 42lb or bosh 42lb type 3
spuds355 1 year ago
@spuds355 Ford racing green
Chadnel25 1 year ago
thank you i got 255 gph fuel pump really nice mustang btw
spuds355 1 year ago
what size injecters do you recoment for a vortech supercharger gt40x heads cobra intake and a comp cam
spuds355 1 year ago
I would do 42's
too much fuel > not enough fuel. make sure you do your fuel pump as well, and get an adjustable fuel pressure regulator
Chadnel25 1 year ago
would 30 lb injectors be fine with gt40x heads cobra intake comp cam and super charger?
spuds355 1 year ago
what size fuel injectors do u have in it?
spuds355 1 year ago
FMS 42#
Chadnel25 1 year ago
what pound injectors u got in it
spuds355 1 year ago
What cam you got in it? Sounds great but not to rough
BigRiggerJ 2 years ago
Anderson B31
Chadnel25 1 year ago
what exhaust?
overheadcam32 2 years ago
BBK shory headers, offroad H pipe, and Flowmaster american thunder cat back
Chadnel25 2 years ago
Very clean sounding stang.
H4Z4RDUS 2 years ago
"92 was the last year in 93 they went to hyperuetectic..." This is the Correct Answer!
jrcaprai 2 years ago
93+ had hyperputic pistons
jimmaywillgruber 2 years ago
hey did you have to put forged pistons in your stang? if so what brand?
blacknikes93 2 years ago
no. they came factoty. 91 was the last year i believe
Chadnel25 2 years ago
no they werent forged they were hypereutectic?? i think i spelled that right thats what the difference was i have a 93 with stock pistons in it
blacknikes93 2 years ago
no. 92-95 were your hyperputic pistons.
google it. 87-91 were forged.
Chadnel25 2 years ago
92 was the last year in 93 they went to hyperuetectic...i think thats how you spell it
Decapitator08 2 years ago
more like hypercrapic.... haha
Chadnel25 2 years ago
BAD ASS!!!
ronho2007 2 years ago
Stock internals? Sounds good.
southieal 2 years ago
448 on mustang dyno with my old cam
Chadnel25 2 years ago
How much RWHP did you make with this combo?
christofurg 2 years ago
hey what kind of cam are you running that sounds bad ass
repnatl 2 years ago
Anderson B31
Chadnel25 2 years ago
nice...but geez that tensioner makes it look like the belt could fall off either side!!!
i know it won't just sayin looks scarey!!
bchewdown 2 years ago
The 87-92 Foxes had forged pistons. 93 was thefirst for Hypereutectic pistons.
I don't blame him for wanting to go turbo. It is essentially free horsepower. there is no parasitic drag on the engine.
Sounds Sick Dude!
LEOSPANTHER 3 years ago
thanks!
Chadnel25 3 years ago
I have a similar set up... where did you get the bracket for the belt tensioner???
toddc0130 3 years ago
It's the Trick Flow A/C delete kit.
Chadnel25 3 years ago
u should have that thing intercooled...
brandongbmx1 3 years ago
thats possibly on the list. may be going back to a turbo.
Chadnel25 3 years ago
why woudl you spend all that money going back to a turbo when you spent alot on that vortech?
papaown 3 years ago
because i can sell the vortech and build a turbo kit for the same price.
Chadnel25 3 years ago
how much would you sell it for?
Decapitator08 2 years ago
sell what? The Vortech?
Chadnel25 2 years ago
ya your supercharger
Decapitator08 2 years ago
I dont Know? Blower, FMU, brackets, Anderson power pipe, $2 grand?
The s trim only has about 1500 miles on it
Chadnel25 2 years ago
sweet cam
rey0176 3 years ago
Great car. I'd like to hear it when it's warmed up though.
s14sr 3 years ago
haha gotta love that winding
KaptainAmerika1 3 years ago
quick question how do you filter the air so u dont push a bunch of shit into ur intake
bhouseskater32 3 years ago
what other mods do u have?
r9er 3 years ago
take the smog pump off. why a cobra intake?
y2kgypsy 3 years ago
smog pump has been LOOOONG gone. cobra intake is what i have had, the lower is ported. eventually i will go to a systemax 2 intake.. letting this how it is for now, looking for an STi as a dd
Chadnel25 3 years ago
It's all back together with my new cam now. all i have to do it trace some vaccuum issues and then time it and im ready to go.
Chadnel25 3 years ago
well The pistons and rods are forged but the cranks isnt but that doesnt mean it wont hold....the stock internals will hold MORE hp and torque than the stock block will. I am running a supercharged HCI combo on my stang making 540 rwhp and it is a BONE STOCK bottom end 302
mustangfan1990 3 years ago
I have read the other comments about you not using a forged crank, I have beat the living hell out of my stock bottom end, and I sprayed every week on Thursdays at the track, and in case you are wondering it is still going strong, I took the whole enging apart, and put new rings on the same pistons!! The bore looks like new and their is no cracks in the block!! FTW Ford built these little 5.0s right!
stangcrazy306 3 years ago
what is it with you guys running stock bottem ends go get foged pistons forged h-beam rods forged steel crank shaft then you wont be blowin shit up so easy most people out there know when you use super chargers and nitrous your bottom end has to be all forged you can not use stock bottem end parts othere wise youll keep blowin your shit up just thought id tell ya for you can save money in the long run
lions66666 3 years ago
Because the pre 93 5.0's had forged pistons from the factory and if you run a safe tune and don't beat the crap out of the car the stock, thin webbed, low nickle block will split like a hot dog bun before the swing assembly quits. Why waste money on forged everything if you have to run at a power level that is safe enough for everything because of a weak block? Spend the money on a better block then add your forged parts ;)
ATPengineering 3 years ago 8
@ATPengineering or just run the completely stock bottom end until it pops. then get new block and internals! the 5.0 is tougher then alot of people give it credit for. altough i will agree the block are only good to mabye 450ish rwhp.
mindfuckerification 9 months ago
what happened to the bottom end?? and how much power u runnin?? stock block?? i got sorta the same setup just no stock oparts, and am pushin 550 rwhp and dont wanan crack the block. just wonder how others are doin with that
spleensk8er 4 years ago
no clue yet. i think i detonated. I did 448rwhp on a mustang dyno street tune. and yes. stock bottom end
Chadnel25 4 years ago
i put out 405 on mustang dyno, but the people who rebuilt it instaed the thrust bearing wrong so all my bearing were wipped within 1 week. didnt know till i lost all oil pressure at about a month. we rebuilt it with serious port work and .040 speed pro forged pistons. head and main studs. about to drop it back in. should be around 500hp at the wheels. i just dont waa crack it, we will go with a mild tune. keep her around 450hp. you get no traction anyways. whats ur full set up??
spleensk8er 4 years ago
Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Cobra Upper and Lower Mani. lower portmatched to gaskets, Vortech S trim, Anderson Power Pipe, Anderson B-31 Cam, Anderson Valve Springs, 70mm TB, SCF b4200 MAF, SCF switch Chip tune by CRT performance in norwalk ohio, 42# injectors
intank and inline 255lph fuel pumps, Fbody electric fans, MSD digital 6, Blaster Coil, Tremec TKO. Spec Stage 2 clutch, lakewood bellhousing, Moser Axles
may have forgot some?
Chadnel25 4 years ago
dude go get the new boss 302 crate motor its way stronger then these motors you guys are messing with
lions66666 3 years ago
nasty!!!!
sabrom19 4 years ago
i got a 93 witha vortech v-1 t-trim i has 450 hp with 6 psi the last time dynoed but i put a afm powerpipe on it now its got 10 psi... your car sonds great
nickassway 4 years ago
well. it's 331 time now. when i pulled it apart, the rotating assembly looks to be junk. so i guess im going bigger. i think i do need to go to some bigger fuel rails now though.
Chadnel25 4 years ago
i got the same supercharger, but lose the cobra intake, go with bbk ss1 intake, i replaced my cobra intake and i now run 3 tenths faster with the bbk intake, good luck
nirvana752005 4 years ago
my lower is ported to match my heads. not sure the difference that makes, but i did like the bbk, especially because it is paired with the high flow rails
Chadnel25 4 years ago
Dont buy the SSI... if you've ever been on mustangforums then you know its junk and a huge PITA to install...
ckyguy68 4 years ago
hey that was a pretty good guess
midgetmayo 4 years ago
sweet love black with red my two favourite colours love that sound to, how much would you sell it for? im not offering to buy it im just curious
midgetmayo 4 years ago
i wouldnt even know where to think what i would sell it for. its paid off, so i probably wouldnt even consider selling it
Chadnel25 4 years ago
well it's sweeter than sugar!
midgetmayo 4 years ago
how fast can it run the quarter mile? my guesse high 9's to somewhere in the 10's
midgetmayo 4 years ago
never got it there yet. im looking for low 11's high 10's
Chadnel25 4 years ago
nice setup, but plan on rebuilding your bottom end soon. im runnin 11psi with my t-trim vortech and i blew my stock bottom end after like 5 months. i also have the top end built thoguh
spleensk8er 4 years ago
believe me, ive had a 331 in my sights for a long time. if i dont blow it this summer i may go back to a turbo setup. (kid depending :x ) we'll see. tuning is expensive
Chadnel25 4 years ago
yep. when u rebuilt my bottom end i put keith blacvk hyperutectic pistons in, big mistake. 3 days ao i lost oil pressue because one piston melted a hole again and my rings and all bearings were fryed. so now im into rebuilding it again
spleensk8er 4 years ago
ouch. when that time comes, i will be going with a totally forged DSS 331
Chadnel25 4 years ago
dude always go with forged pistons when running supercharged or nitrous then those problems will go away
lions66666 3 years ago
the pistons and rods ARE forged 87-91 Stock.... thank you.
blow shit up, go bigger.
Chadnel25 3 years ago
that crank is not forged steel man i know iv been inside those motors only think that might be forged is the pistons thats it not the crank or the rods anser this question was the weld on the crank a big fat weld or a long shoe strink thick weld anser this correctly then ill quit arguing with you
lions66666 3 years ago
im not arguing. what blew was a headgasket, which wore a gouge in my aluminum head. when i took the block apart to deck it, i noticed the 3 and 7 pistons looked trashed. so i either ran lean and detonated at some point or had low oil pressure. the block is still fine.
stock blocks are good to upwards of 500hp. which i was in that range. i gambled and lost. so be it, bigger and better to come
Chadnel25 3 years ago
alright im some what new to my stang. (1987 fox) are u running the stock block or do u have something else?
lgd888 4 years ago
stock bottom end.
Chadnel25 4 years ago
sick. id like to do an eagle 347
spleensk8er 4 years ago
i wish my ford had a 302 5.0 .... im stuck with a 351 5.8
hard to find parts
oh well the 460 7.5 is going in that son of a bitch
MullenUrock 4 years ago
Alright... i gotta ask. What mufflers are you running now with the supercharger?
MommysLittleMonster7 4 years ago
Flowmaster American Thunder catback.
Chadnel25 4 years ago
Turbo's rock but the sound of that blower whistling is music to my ears.
rompn4x 4 years ago
wow i love it so clean un like mine
toreyki 4 years ago
Going to the turbo was a much better idea. I've had both and the turbo rules. Bone stock 92 block with 147,000 miles and a 62 mm Turbonetics laid down 444.6 HP to the wheels and 538 lb/ft of torque. The blower with the same boost made 321 hp and only 370 on torque.
Stickman53fe 4 years ago
Im planning on making it back to a turbo setup. id like to get a time at the track before i take the blower off. i blew a headgasket and ruined an aluminum head. so once i fix that im going to get some times and probably end up turbo. im content where i am.... im sick of dropping so much on cars.
Chadnel25 4 years ago
the red stripe is tight, mines white with red stripe looks just as coo
lyden2006 4 years ago
how much did u pay for the supercharger?
luckymike16 4 years ago
traded a twin turbo kit for it
Chadnel25 4 years ago
nice whine there love it
Docthewrench 4 years ago
NICE LOOKING FOX!!!
knives01ng 4 years ago
what cam is this? sounds sick
cdorch411 4 years ago
its an ultradyne custom grind
Chadnel25 4 years ago
Sweet car man. My first car at 16 was a black 88 LX 2.3 with the red stripe. I always wanted a GT that looked same(black with red).
kevins89notch 4 years ago
how much did it cost u? and have u took it to a dyno?
reed105 4 years ago
i traded my twin turbo kit for it. dynoed 450 Whp on a 93 octane street tune. mustang dynometer
Chadnel25 4 years ago
nice you should check out Foxbodyforum(.)com
NickHolyk 4 years ago
im a chevy guy 2 tha fullest but nice whislter on yer rustang
sliCCRiC 4 years ago
will work on it.
Chadnel25 4 years ago
Sounds great. Put a clip of driving!
proaudiohd 4 years ago
8-10psi
Chadnel25 4 years ago
how many PSI is that supercharger putting down.
Hulkster77 4 years ago
flowmaster american thunder catback. offroad H pipe and bbk shorty headers
Chadnel25 4 years ago
flowmaster? 40 delta flows?
thetvirus 4 years ago
Nice
qwertyman0987654321 4 years ago
sounds awesome
00freightshaker 4 years ago
nope. not stock cam. 218/.525 cam
Just dynoed 450 Whp on a 93 octane street tune. mustang dyno
Chadnel25 4 years ago
Is this the stock cam? nice
sublipdick 4 years ago
*orgasm* i want mine to whistle like that!!!
ZombiesH8rice 4 years ago
nothing sounds better than a worked 5.0
mikeyz124 4 years ago