@samihussain91 Jihad, suicide bombing, terrorist organizations, female oppression, cutting off the limbs of children, exterminating everyone else in the world for being infidels etc.... all this in the name of god? And thats all perfectly acceptable, but yet CURSING will send you to hell? I guess thats where your god draws the line eh? SILENCE!! I KEEEEEL YOU!! fuckin brainwashed lunatics
Well done Billy Connolly, one of the very few comedians with the guts to ridicule Islamic nut jobs rather than worry they might get hurt, what say you Mr Bremner
We are more bothered about the beliefs of the people we bomb than the giant paedo ring that is the catholic church. People just hate who they are told to hate
and if we are so special why are our bodies DESIGNED to live no more than one hundred years? whales get 200 years.some reptiles 200 years.quahog clam gets 400 years.
the geo duck clam 175 years is common. there are many more examples. he totaly forgets to mention other galaxies and planets and makes it virtually impossible to visit said worlds.
I happily believe the white smocks in the laboratories(that is fact not fiction although some is just theory) who say the universe is 14 billion years
@01sircharles We also have an appendix and gall bladder that call kill us with almost no return while they're in our body, a tail bone that serves no purpose, hair that we don't need because we're smart enough to wear clothes, sweat and shivering responses that are extremely inefficient and waste energy when we need it most, we eat and breathe through the same hole, we piss and reproduce with the same organ, and that's just off the top of my head.
if there is a god,he/she/ have horrible communcation skills, likes wars,advocates slavery ,demands murder for honor,stoning to death in public now adam and eve got busy, and so god made it ok for incest and inbreeding and intervened with the genetics and dna properties for a certain amount of time but never really said when OK IT's TIME to stop fucking you sister or aunt and uncle, nephew, niece,and cousin.people knew half a million years ago not to do that. same time as don't eat green meat
@MrTech012 No, this world is the way it is today because of religion. In simpler times, people needed it to stay on the right path, and bring the world to where it is today. Of course science was the biggest factor, but religion kept the order. There you go, lesson over, so fuck you!
@PANGEA95 Ha Ha.... Sounds like I offended a religious moron! Actually, you are right (to an extent) with people being kept on the straight and narrow etc. BUT, and it's a big but.... You can't deny religious nutcases just go round in circles bashing their heads on their fucking books and forget to live their lives. Religion is a crock of shit, and the world would be damn closer to peace if it wasn't around.
@MrTech012 Oh ha ha! trust me mate, you didn't offend a religious wanker! Far from it, no, religion does cause half the problems today though. It had its place in the past and was for the better, but people like the taliban, jehovahs witness, US christian bb nutcases, zionists, they just make religion an outdated liability to this planet.
Lol wot a fucking retard I mean u don't have to shout to be funny just have am good gags this guy is shit I would rather watch paint dry than this ugly twat!
@diavarezable i woudn't be so sure, evil is an extremely powerful drug and a useful tool to boot, once you're in, it's very hard to turn back, even with the church, or the mosque, or temple you pray in trying to help
@Atheist961 i know no one cares my friend but i wrote that comment to show not every muslim cant take a joke. sorry if my comment distrub u or any viewer.
@TheFSMChannel Man, are you serious? Islam isnt a detestable religion, you clearly dont know your history. Hellenistically influenced Islam praticed originally by the Mamluks and the Ottoman Empire inspired the Muslim world until after the world wars where the death of the Ottoman Empire, left places like Persia and Saudi Arabai to become the heads of Islamic thought rather than the Hellenistic influenced Ottoman Empire. Know your history man, British and French Imperialism started this.
he is a fucking retard person.. its not funny.. he is a hater and showing his hates to public...what muslims did to him. after such insult he is still alive, what does it mean. its all lies what he is saying n portraying muslims... Muslims are only defending their lands...its their " crime" that u bastard invaded Muslims and muslims r trying to protect their lands from u robbers..u r guys r sick and thieves....
@TheFSMChannel "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - The claims "THere is a God" and "There is no God" are BOTH extraordinary. "stop haranguing Atheists for not subscribing to your medieval bullshit" -Again, this WASNT what the discussion was about, it was about the historical concequence for religion and its impact on Western intellectual though. And medieval? Religion is timeless, it doesnt STAY in one particular era. The Council of Trent alone sends it into the modern age
@TheFSMChannel "Remember the burden of proof falls on the believer" -Whose rule is that? The state of being of a topic unknown isnt to say that it IS unknown. But regardless: "explain your supernatural beliefs or justify them" - Well, they've been EXPLAINED completely and throrughly its just most atheists fail to pay attention ot that. And the justification is the human need for God. The majority of human beings still believe in a higher power, even some irreligious people.
@TheFSMChannel "but you cannot explain your supernatural beliefs or justify them" - First of all, what does this have to do with the arguement about science? It doesnt matter whose right in this context because what DOES exist, is the religion itself and its heavy impact on Western Society. You're argueing that the impact is bad, I argue that it is good, this isnt a discussion about whos right and whos wrong, its a historical debate about the merits of religion on scientific thinking.
@TheFSMChannel "all of the things that these people have given the world are not BECAUSE of Christian beliefs but DESPITE their Christian beliefs" - Again, doesnt that arguement fly in YOUR face rather than ours? If your background, beliefs and society doesnt influence how science works, than no culture, religion or thought process is better OR WORSE by their scientific accomplishments? Either religion has nothing to do with science and by extent nothing else does, or it does and has.
@TheFSMChannel "like you are always a reminder of how anachronistic and utterly futile religion is" -And people like you are always a reminder of how closed-minded and insulting youtube atheists are.
@TheFSMChannel "yeah you're completely delusional" -Clearly. Because its impossible that my arguements are simplier weaker than yours I HAVE to be delusional for your arguements to be superior? Get out of here man! "can't name one Christian invention" - What is a Christian invention? THe hell would be an ATHEIST invention? How does one define the religion of a thought, piece of social philosophy or object? "you're living on another planet" -Clearly, I do.The internet exists on MARS! Come on man!
@TheFSMChannel Michael Faraday was a Christian blacksmith, his work on electricity and magnetism revolutionized physics. I understand the worlds dislike for religion as a whole, but the concept that religious people have not made a positive impact on the world is just ridiculous. There's Gandhi, Dr. King, Mother Theresa. Religion is here to stay, not every religious person in a mindless fanatic.
@TheFSMChannel It's true that Christians have never invented anything, but they've made an impact on science. Isaac Newton for example could not grasp the idea of a non created universe, he was still a genius. Gregor Mendol was a monk who layed the mathematical foundations for genetics. Einstein was Jewish. Robert Boyle of 'Boyle's Law' was Christian. Max Planck was a Christian known for his work in quantum theory Religious people have made impact in science that's all i'm saying.
@KurtCobain198666 Um, Einstein was agnostic, and Mother Teresa has bailed on catholicism. (I think you're taking liberties with Max Planck, But I don't know much about him)
Now lets get to the point, it's not people who are religious that I object to, it's the religion. Tell me, how did the wonderful mother church respond to Newton's discoveries? Open embrace? Wet sloppy kisses?
Then there's Galileo, almost burned at the stake for inventing a thermometer, so accepting.
@rynther The Catholic Church distorted the teachings of Jeus to a destestable degree, so I personally don't care about people's view on them. The fact that they're the richest establishment in the world, counters Jesus' teachings. Using saints as mediators counters Jesus' teachings. Having a man as the head of the Church counters the teachings of the Bible. They hold Mary in high regard, with no Biblical reason to do so. They're not Christian, just because they claim to be,
@KurtCobain198666 The Cannons essentially wrote the bible, you can't really separate the book from the church.
You can't say that the religion isn't being followed correctly either, when people are taught that they are forgiven for horrible things if they follow the right protocol, instead of personal responsibility, you get horrific behavior. That's why I have a problem with it.
@rynther Christians take personal responsibility for there action. We believe that its our own personal sins that nailed Jesus to a cross. The book very much can be seperated from Church. The book existed prior, and therefore, independantly of the Church. Sexual assualt of children in rampant in the Catholic church, that's not in the Bible. The accumilation of money by the Church is deemed immoral according to the Bible. Seems to me you've never read the book you make assumptions on.
@KurtCobain198666 You seem to be making more than a few assumptions about me. The Catholic sect is pretty bad, but I haven't seen a Christian church that doesn't pass the collection plate. My experience is more with the Baptist and Pentecostal sects, but I've seen others as well.
If they are using religion as an excuse for bad behavior, or they truly believe, it's impossible to tell the difference from the outside. Many just follow what the preacher says on faith.
@rynther Did the Church ever demand money of you? I attend a Pentecostal Church, and our Pastor always states that if we haven't come prepared to tithe, then let the bag go by. Tithing is part of the Christian faith which is found in the Bible. When Pastors pass the bag, they do so because they believe it's part of God's word. Most of our tithe goes on the Communion and hiring guest speakers, so it's based on faith rather than money grabbing.
@rynther God teaches us to be more concerned about our relationship with Him, rather than tithing: "Woe to you, Pharisees! You tithe mint and rue and every edible herb but disregard justice and the love of God. These were rather the things one should practice, without neglecting the others." Luke 11:42. The Bible is how you should evaluate God's law, not how some Church interpets it. I know my Church does lots for Charity, especially in Uganda, so I'm happy to give.
@rynther As for Mother Therese, I believe you're referring to her saying this: "Where is my faith? Even deep down there is nothing but emptiness and darkness If there be God please forgive me. When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven, there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my very soul. How painful is this unknown pain—I have no Faith"
@rynther The Rev. Brian Kolodiejchuk, her postulator (the official responsible for gathering the evidence for her sanctification) indicated there was a risk that some might misinterpret her meaning, but her faith that God was working through her remained undiminished, and that while she pined for the lost sentiment of closeness with God, she did not question his existence. Much like Jesus asking: "Eli Eli lama sabachthani?" which means "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?"
@rynther But as i've pointed out, the Catholic Church distorted the Books, to suit it's own ends. Nuns are more Christian than the Pope, as they take vows of poverty. You're going to say there's nothing Holy about poverty, fair enough. But there's nothing Holy about clinging to wealth as the Pope does. Anyway, this is just me stating feel free to ridicule the Catholic Church and it's distorted truths, and pagan methods. It's not what I believe to be true anyway.
@KurtCobain198666 I'd rather you didn't put words in my mouth if that's okay with you.
The concept of giving up worldly possessions and helping others is a very noble practice. Although the help shouldn't come with strings, that poisons the act.
@KurtCobain198666 As a minor aside, even when I was religious, I referred to myself as a desciple of Christ, or a Taoist, not a Christian. I still hold many of the principals of Tao, the philosophy is helpful on several levels.
@rynther The term is disciple, but ok. The word Christian applies to anyone who followed the teachings of Christ. It literally means 'follower of Christ.' If you said to a Greek Christian that you're a follower of Christ, but not a Christian, they'd state its contradictory. So you can deny the label, but if you declare Jesus saviour, and live according to His laws, you'd still be a Christian.
@rynther Also, Taoist and follower of Christ is an oxymoron. Christ taught that there's one heavenly Father (Hear O Isreal, Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one Deut 6:4) Taoists by nature believe in a Pantheon of Gods. Taoism doesn't teach of a personal Saviour, as the Bible does. Taoism doesn't teach ressurection as the Bible does. The two are utterly contradictory, no Taoist can follow Jesus' teachings and still call themselves Taoist.
@KurtCobain198666 Now whose making assumptions about a book they haven't read?
Just FYI, by the time I studied Tao, I wasn't a Christian, and you can strip all the god references out and still have some very good philosophical framework. You can be spiritual without being religious. Sam Harris talks about this kind of philosophical framework, and cautions atheists about dismissing it.
I'll forgive the confusion on this, you simply don't know me, and there is no crime in ignorance.
@rynther The aruement is mute. Taoism may teach some great philosophy, but so does the Bible- honour your parents, forgive those who harm you, don't steal, don't lie, don't commit adultry, don't judge others, don't act is racism, aid an escaped slave. The list goes on. Don't state that some Christians ignore the above, because some atheists have comitted genocide, it doesn't mean atheists SHOULD commit genocide. Jesus taught such a high level of morality, it's amazing.
@KurtCobain198666 Let's just start with don't judge others, when I see signs that say "fags will burn in hell" and "kill the fags" that rings very hollow indeed.
I won't state that some christians ignore the above, I'm stating that many do. Few in fact practice what they preach. You also seem to have left out the less attractive elements, like killing your bride on her fathers doorstep if she isn't a virgin.
Regarding atheists committing genocide, you might want to name them?
@rynther You're ignoring the fact that God doesn't expect Christians to follow the Old Testament law.For example, Christians don't have Ten Commandments, we have Two. So the laws about 'stoning a man who lays with another man' are obsolete. Even most atheists know this, as most know the 'Let he who is without sin...' teaching. Stalin and Mao were both atheists. You may state Stalin trained for preisthood, but he was expelled, closed the churches, and executed clergymen.
@rynther Stalin followed the position that religion needed to be removed in communist society. To this end, his government promoted atheism through special atheistic education in schools, massive amounts of anti-religious propaganda, the antireligious work of public institutions (especially the Society of the Godless), discriminatory laws, and also a terror campaign against religious believers. By the late 1930s it had become dangerous to be publicly associated with religion.
@rynther Now, you may state that this is because he was communist. Yes, he was atheist because he was Red, but Stalin killed religious people because he was atheist. You can't skip the atheist part of the equation. In fact, every communist regime, excluding Cuba, has been spearheaded by the concept that religion is evil. China and Cambodia destroyed pagodas and executed monks, Russia sent clergymen to the Gulags. Communism is atheism, it promotes atheism.
@KurtCobain198666 In the case of Stalin, he kept the state churches open, and used them for control, he eradicated all others, not quite atheist. Mao was a dyed in the wool power hungry mad man, who happened to be atheist. Compare that to the number of religious wars, and the bigger picture emerges. Not to mention the stifling of free speech, or the burning of gays, and others, because of PRACTICED doctrines. I am aware of the new covenant, but many christians seem to have overlooked that point.
@rynther So that was my point to begin with. You state that the issue is with the Bible, when it is not. Your issue is with mans interpritation of that law. A Christian follows the Laws of Jesus. A Christian should not stone gays, burn gays, judge a man etc. A Christian may do those things, but they tend to use the Old Testament laws to justify it, laws which are obsolete.
@KurtCobain198666 Um, no, I have a problem with the concept of belief without proof touted as a virtue.
BTW, are you seriously trying to argue that Darwin has the full support of the protestants? Ever hear of the scopes trial? How about the gross misrepresentation of a number of other theories?
And this discussion so far has not included any of the other religions out there.
@rynther So, because you perosnally can't comprehend faith, it is a 'problem'. Isn't that the definition of bigotry? I'm not arguing it as virtuous, I personally don't care how you view faith. But we as people take the most important aspect of our lives on faith-relationships. Nobody can proove a spouse loves them, beyond the idea that 'they told them so.' Eventually it boild down to belief. Sorry, but my God has never let me down. If you have an issue with faith, it's your issue.
@KurtCobain198666 Bollocks. If a person is willing to live in a monogamous relationship with me for the rest of his or her life, entrusting his or her future - at least partly - to me, including me as the most important person in every consideration - besides, and sometimes even above, themselves, caring for me when I'm sick, providing emotional, financial, intellectual aid where needed and, last not least, willing to suck my dick... that's a lot of proof right there.
@Sylvine you're not quite grasping this are you. How do you know that person is staying monogamous? Are you around her 24/7? There's that saying about trust being the foundation of marriage, but trust eventually must extend to faith. Many partner's do not realise that there spouse is having an affair. Why? Because that spouse still cares for them, comes home to them, provides support etc. If you think any of that is proof of monogomy, you're very naive. Eventually it comes down to faith
@KurtCobain198666 That's solipsism, and I don't engage in that. There's a pragmatic approach to things where things do not come down to faith. If someone says he likes noodles, and is eating them often in my presence, it is to be assumed that he doesn't do that to spite me,but that he actually likes noodles. Same with love (which =|= monogamy, nice shifting of goalposts). I examine and evaluate the evidence and conclude love is likely - I don't take it on pure faith.
@Sylvine this doesn't change my opinion of youy bein naive. Monogomy is something that cannot be prooven. You, your wife go out to work, you're away from each other 8 hours a day. Unless you can be with them all day, your partner must be alone. Every person who wants to can find time to cheat, you just have to trust that your spouse loves you. If you think love can be proven on the same level as gravity, you're missing the concept. It is faith in one another, and it grows from that.
@KurtCobain198666 Sorce, plz? Love is obviously a subjective term, since we disagree on what it means so fundamentally.
Besides, monogamy actually _can_ be proven, we just choose not to attempt to, since we realize it's a wasted effort and potentially harmful to the relationship. As You said, if someone wants to have an affair, they will. And it's their damn right, too.
And it's me who is being naive?
Trust =|= faith. Trust is earned. Faith is just given.
@rynther No, the Catholic Church had the issue with the early scientists. Name one scientist that came to heads with a Protestant Church? Some of the key minds in history were Christian- Isaan Newton, Robert Boyle, William Thomson Kelvin. Gregor Mendel was the first to lay the mathematical foundations of genetics, in what came to be called "Mendelianism." He was a monk. He began his research in 1856 (three years before Darwin published his Origin of Species)
@rynther Yes, I know of Darwin. But Mendel started his work on the origins of man before Darwin. We know Darwin as the father of the evolutionary theory, but it does'nt change the historic fact that Mendel was a monk, writing about this concept three years prior to the publication of Darwin's work. His work remained comparatively unknown until the turn of the century, when a new generation of botanists began finding similar results and "rediscovered" him. Patronisation-so ignorant
@rynther Galileo was treated badly by the Church, but that doesn't change the fact that he was Catholic. Galileo expressly said that the Bible cannot err, and saw his view on the solar system as an alternate interpretation of the biblical texts. Millions of Afro-Americans who were Christian, Muslim etc, were mistreated by millions of white Americans pre 1970's America. What you're stating is an issue with the Church, rather than the canon law of the Bible, or the will of God.
@rynther As for Galileos view on the universe (he stated that the Earth was not at the centre), there was no Biblical reason to believe the Earth is at the centre. The Bible states many things about the Sun, like it states the Sun is 'swimming along it's own path' (Astronomers have calculated that it takes the Sun 226 million years to completely orbit around the center of the Milky Way) but there's no 'earth is the centre quote.' Blame the ignorant Church of the times, not the Bible
Must there always be a shit ton of these paragraphs below every video of a comedian talking about religion? For one, it draws away from the fact it's a funny video, jokes etc. Secondly, you'll never change a persons mind on Youtube of all places. Get it sorted.
@TheFSMChannel "the ethnic cleansing of the indigenous population?" - Well first of all, the ethnic cleansing at least in South and central America, was completely by accident mostly by disease. The Spanish and Portugese rarely outright slaughtered natives, at least after getting footholds in the Caribbean. North American killing of natives didnt occur until the 19th century, and Christianity wasnt the ideology behind that, but a different one.
@TheFSMChannel "The slave trade?" - The slave trade had nothing to do with the bible, although its help in the discovery of ocean currents might of helped it along. The bible actually condemns the kidnapping of people and forcing them into slavery, as well as taking war prisoners into slavery. The slave trade also had NOTHING to do with the bible but economics. African slavetraders (mostly arab North Africans) had slaves, Eurpeans had colonies and needed labour for their plantations. Economics
@TheFSMChannel "Where does the Bible lay the foundations of the creation of the United States?" - Well actually ENGLAND laid the foundation of the US, but what laid the foundation of England? A combination of all major Christian denominations and their doctrines of all have their holding in bibilical understanding. The doctrines of those denominations is what influenced these great thinkers and those doctrines come from the bible. I'm not prepared to explain every single one though
@TheFSMChannel "Where does the Bible lay the foundations" - Well, I was quoting the history, which you can look at as a timeline between the English Civil War where the ideals of this kind of freedom were spearheaded by Sir Thomas Moore and Oliver Cromwell using the Christian doctrine of individualism and Lutheran political ideals respectively. Individual interconnecting verses wouldnt do at all, so bigger bibilica pciture: The Soul and freedom of the Will ala Erasmus would be a good start.
@TheFSMChannel "So you keep saying....but what did it create?" - I already said, the Reformist theology truely spurred the creation of the middle social class in Western society in the Netherlands along with the Puritans in England, the Catholic college system is the one which is used now by secular colleges, and the Protestant theology influencing political ideology created the idea of things like the social contract and freedom from autocratic government ala England and later the US.
@TheFSMChannel You can even trace the culture of the Reformist protestants to the creation of the middle-class in Europe. You can trace back our modern education system beta'd by the Catholic Church, the original sunday schools. Protestant ideals of freedom from government which ultimately led the creation of the United States. Atheists ignore the fact that half of Western Society is based on Judeo-Christian principle. They ignore it because to acknowledge it, would be to destroy their viewpoint
@GermanConquistador08 You are taking a big leap of faith my friend. I thought up a great ributal but let's just keep it at this: you are talking a lot of shit. Religion made it possible that scientist and great thinkers over centuries where not allowed to speak there minds. This already starts with socrates, plato and aristotle. PS before calling my comment shit it would suit you to back your claim up with some evidence. Thank you.
@nozferatu1234 "Religion made it possible that scientist and great thinkers over centuries where not allowed to speak there minds" - It certainly didnt do so for navigation scientists in Spain and Portugal. It didnt stop the great minds of the Italian renaissance and it certainly didnt prevent the military developments pre-30 years war. The Tercio was developed in Catholic Spain afterall. It was the time of the highly politized church that cenorship occured.
@nozferatu1234 "already starts with socrates, plato and aristotle" - So, Christianity shut these men up? Despite the fact that they might be the most quoted and well known philosophers in the world? Right of course. "PS before calling my comment shit" - Your comment isnt shit, its just devoid of all historical understanding and I've brought the history to the table, you decide if its true or not by researching it.I know its true, I dont feel the need to look through sources like a college essey
@TheFSMChannel "but what did these faiths bring to the planet in terms of scientific development" - Religion is one of the biggest influences of culture, and Judeo-Christian tradition is what created western society, along with Classical traditions. Athens and Jerusalem are the pillars of western society. Christianity created massive progress in Europe for the same reason that Animism and Hinduism held back the cultures of the Americas and Indian sub-continent.
"Religion is over" -...clearly. Over 2/3s of the planet belong to the Abrahamic religions, and the number of irreligious is probably around, not even 1%. Yep, definately over. I'd say this is the equivelent of being four-nil down and calling the opposition done for eh? "you fucked it" - Clearly, all that progress done by Christians, Muslims, Jews, people of the Eastern faiths, never happened huh? And atheist progress did NOT take place under places religious free, due to religious values AH?!
THERE IS NO GOD IF THERE IS WHY WAS I BORN DISABLED AND CHAVS AND TERRORISTS WALK AROUND WITH NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM.
RELIGION AND GODS ARE INVENTED BY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN A FANTASY LAND AND USE HELL AS A WAY OF SCARING PEOPLE INTO FOLLOWING THEIR FICTIOUS GOD. THAT AMAOUNTS TO BRAINWASHING.
Rofl, says the guys who, in his own post uses the word "theories" - and if you had actually read anything about it should know those very theories are so far from being generally accepted there's no point in mentioning them in any argument.
@YeshuaisShekinah We both know that the Bible has nothing to do with science and everything to do with blind faith.
All religion is based on the “supernatural” and requires “The Suspension of Critical Thinking” or if you like “ the suspension of disbelief” in order to be able to embrace the belief as required.
No discussion of “quantum mechanics” or “black holes” and “singularities” can hide your inability to supply ANY proof that "science confirms everything in the Bible"
@YeshuaisShekinah - I must assume your mention of black holes and singularities referred to a curvature singularity as predicted by general relativity to exist inside a black hole beyond the event horizon (which as you know, is not permitted by the laws of quantum mechanics).
Or do you reference to the kind theorized by general relativity (inaccurately) to be the initial state of the universe before the “big bang“ (which again, the laws of quantum mechanics won’t permit)
@YeshuaisShekinah - Like all people of faith, you are scientifically bankrupt and not only have to seek protection in the cloak of your faith, but are attempting once again, to move “off topic“ and steer the conversation into a theoretical discussion totally unrelated to the the bible being "Scientifically" accurate.
People of faith are accustomed to making outrageous claims without being called on them.
This time you got caught and you don’t know which way to turn..
Notice how the ignorant make sure not to directly confront their superiors when they know they lack any truth or knowledge on the matter at hand. They never chance being challenged on their lies they only have half truths and slander because truth reminds them that they are in the dark because that is what they choose for in their insanity they think they can hide from GOD.
You are fully welcome to point out what you believe is a lie, and contradict it with some form of fact. This response of yours is weak rhetoric without any substance. You just repeated "I believe in GOD and he will smite you! Also, he cares if I capitalize his name or not!"
@googlesucks987 The simple fact is if anyone wants to know the truth just go study Quantum mechanics measurement problem, and singularity theories "Hologram theory".
Until then you are all just uneducated idiots mocking your only chance at salvation.
Look at all that ad hominem. Let's summarize what you've said shall we? "You're a dumdum, therefore the tooth fairy is real. The bible is legit because some material somewhere says so."
There is not one shred of evidence supporting christianity or judaism or islam or buddhism over any of the other. You can choose to belief in any if you'd like, I don't care, but never argue with someone else, because it boils down to a choice in the end.
Oh, and btw, science? What junk science have you been into?
Genetics have shown humans trace back tens to hundreds of thousands of years based on number of calculable parents. This is confirmed in two genetic methods, one for men, the other for women.
Geology shows the age of the earth as being provably at minimum millions of years. Not only half-life, but also changes in the world's magnetic field and thats effect on the formation of rocks.
At the very very best, even if we *gave* you that the world is xxxx years old, even though it is most very certainly not, that would not prove one religion over any other. A giant space penguin could've made earth with equal likelihood.
@RichardBeckett66 “The procedure of measurement has an essential influence on the conditions on which the very definition of the physical quantities in question rests” ~ Niels Bohr 1935
@YeshuaisShekinah - Bohr’s “Copenhagen Interpretation” just argues in favour of Heisenberg’s “Uncertainty Principle” against Einstein’s assertion (later disproved)
SO WHAT. This does not speak to my simple question about your claim that science could prove that Noah could float ALL living animals as well as explain where all the water came from or disappeared to.
Your obfuscation has now “scientifically” proved to me (and everyone) that you are indeed “Just full of SHIT"
@RichardBeckett66 No sir I am clarifying a point more profound than you are grasping.
"Ye shall live by faith in YHWH".
IF you really did understand what you just posted and understood "Hologram Theory" in the theoretical study of black holes or singularities you would be on the right track.
If you test for a very specific photon of light and are unable to establish a control enviroment what have you just learned?
@RichardBeckett66 You do know you can google "Quantum Mechanics Measurement Problem" and look for yourself instead of asking me to re-write a 15 page essay or to try to piece meal some weblink past youtube link police.
I can not think for you brother, you have to seek the true knowledge earnestly if you are too find it at all.
@YeshuaisShekinah “The procedure of measurement has an essential influence on the conditions on which the very definition of the physical quantities in question rests” ~ Niels Bohr 1935
@YeshuaisShekinah - I hear ya brother, on this there is no argument.....but I'm still waiting for you to supply the search perameters that will take me to the "Scientific" web site that supports your assertion that "science confirms everything in the Bible" using quantum mechanics, or ANYTHING scientific, as it applies to "my simple question".
Put up........or Shut up.......unless you're "just full of shit" in which case......nevermind.
@RichardBeckett66 Brother I can see that you choose to be stubborn in your ignorance.
If you refuse the truth it is the same as rebelling. I do not have the time to explain every scientific truth since 1920 to you, it is your responsibility to vanquish your own ignorance.
@YeshuaisShekinah I don't want you to "explain every scientific truth since 1920" - Just supply the search perameters that will take me to the "Scientific" web site that supports your assertion that "science confirms everything in the Bible" using quantum mechanics, or ANYTHING scientific, as it applies to my simple question about Noah and all his his animals and where did all that water come from and go to "Scientifically"
@RichardBeckett66 Ok I just gave you the first, “The procedure of measurement has an essential influence on the conditions on which the very definition of the physical quantities in question rests” ~ Niels Bohr 1935
Understand that first then we can move to the next point.
@AndySiner There is not one single problem with the Ten Commandments, if you are so sure there is then name them, don't boast about what you know prove it with what you say and do.
Do not blame your inability to understand for your lack of wisdon, blame the fact that you rebel against the true authority.
You do not know the first thing about quantum physics but somehow you have "proven" GOD wrong you say?
Boasts of a moron about the insanities in his own head!
"There is not one single problem with the Ten Commandments, if you are so sure there is then name them, don't boast about what you know prove it with what you say with."
I planned to but was limited by the character limit.I've written you a PM detailing all the problems I have with the commandments along with a response to the rest of your comment but you have friend lock on so you'll have to add me if you want me to send it.
@AndySiner Brother the boastful always claim knowledge they do not have so forgive me if I am not impressed with excuses. Post it in the light of day so all may witness that Yahweh is supreme.
The light wants all to see, the darkness always hides from the light.
Excuse? The message was all typed and the post button was pressed.I'm hardly coming up with an excuse.It's been saved and if you add me,it will be sent.If you think I'm coming up with an excuse not to post then call my bluff.You can always delete me after you're done talking with me.I'm not posting it here in sections because posting 20 something consecutive messages here is tantamount to spamming.
@AndySiner Andy in the time it took you to post those two comments I could have explained the Measurement problem. I am afraid we can not debate if you are not on my level of understanding.
Good for you.Have a cookie.If you find time in your busy schedule of beating around the bush and changing the subject and declaring your superiority and refusing to back up your claims until some condition is met while accusing me and RichardBeckett of doing the same to find a pair of balls then feel free to add me and you'll get your message. Until then this dialogue is over. In the meantime I'll be over here not holding my breath.Buh-bye now.
@AndySiner Actually sir I was waiting on you to post what was "wrong" with the ten commandments and in the mean time brought up a supercedeing point about the fabric of reality which you still fail to understand proves that GOD exists.
@AndySiner - Andy......It ain't that hard......Just post a "scientific" website that supports your assertion that "science confirms everything in the Bible" using quantum mechanics, or ANYTHING scientific, as it applies to my simple question and I'll shut up. I'm guessing that would impress the hell out of YeshuaisShekinah as well.......
Or, as I asked before.....are you just full of shit???
When you do not know the Ten Commandments and live your life for only yourself, when you stand before Yeshua to be judged what will you say?
There is only one reality and the more you bother to stay up on your scientific studies and you do your best to learn the Holy Bible with out preconnceptions you will realize that science confirms everything in the Bible.
People and their assumptions are what causes the problem.
There's so many problems with the ten commandments it's not even funny. And you don't need to be a christian to know the few valid ones.And you say 'when' you stand before Yeshua like it's a foregone conclusion.You need to demonstrate why it is for anyone to take that threat seriously.
And science confirms everything in the bible? o_0
You don't even need to go past the first page to see a whole bunch of things the bible gets scientifically wrong.
"GIVE ME 2 FIRE BREATHING WHO#ES ANY DAY OF THE WEEK"
AthiestNews 5 hours ago
tolol..bangsat..
achmad695 8 hours ago
Brilliant, this is what education does....makes u think. Unlike the fling mutters here who think there's a heaven and hell.
3377romina 4 days ago
I can't think of any comedy act at the moment that's better than this shit
controllerbrain 1 week ago
funny? come to Indonesia..showing your joke and see the reaction? if u can make them laugh i will pay 10 times..
achmad695 1 week ago
@achmad695 Why the fuck would he want to go to a muslim infested shit hole and get murdered for stating the obvious?
Jijheoo 1 week ago
@Jijheoo i pray that god doesnt send u 2 hell for cursing his people. muslims love god more than any of u. ull no the truth once ur ded
samihussain91 5 days ago
@samihussain91
'ull no the truth once ur ded'
Or possibly - i won't know anything anymore when i'm dead. Kinda like before I was born.
ackmonra 5 days ago
@samihussain91 Jihad, suicide bombing, terrorist organizations, female oppression, cutting off the limbs of children, exterminating everyone else in the world for being infidels etc.... all this in the name of god? And thats all perfectly acceptable, but yet CURSING will send you to hell? I guess thats where your god draws the line eh? SILENCE!! I KEEEEEL YOU!! fuckin brainwashed lunatics
TerryGuilder1 4 days ago
@achmad695 As Billy says....FUCK OFF
macgriff66 2 days ago
@macgriff66 yeah..and then i say FUCK U
achmad695 9 hours ago
@achmad695 How sad...I pity you. You can't laugh at yourselves, can you?
Dzongka 2 days ago
@Dzongka who cares?
achmad695 9 hours ago
Well done Billy Connolly, one of the very few comedians with the guts to ridicule Islamic nut jobs rather than worry they might get hurt, what say you Mr Bremner
taquiyaaware 1 week ago
His "fucking idiots!!" is EPIC !!
NexisFilms 2 weeks ago
nearly as funny as the "jinn babies" video by hamza tzortzis
DuckingNDiving 3 weeks ago
BRILLIANT..PURE BRILLIANCE..
WASPS1867 4 weeks ago
We are more bothered about the beliefs of the people we bomb than the giant paedo ring that is the catholic church. People just hate who they are told to hate
keflar5 1 month ago
With my luck, I'd get 53 virgin sheep.
Leowen2 1 month ago
you talk like this when you use drugs and alcohol lol they wastin theyre time just to listen ignorant old fart
xukun0 1 month ago
and if we are so special why are our bodies DESIGNED to live no more than one hundred years? whales get 200 years.some reptiles 200 years.quahog clam gets 400 years.
the geo duck clam 175 years is common. there are many more examples. he totaly forgets to mention other galaxies and planets and makes it virtually impossible to visit said worlds.
I happily believe the white smocks in the laboratories(that is fact not fiction although some is just theory) who say the universe is 14 billion years
01sircharles 1 month ago 9
@01sircharles We also have an appendix and gall bladder that call kill us with almost no return while they're in our body, a tail bone that serves no purpose, hair that we don't need because we're smart enough to wear clothes, sweat and shivering responses that are extremely inefficient and waste energy when we need it most, we eat and breathe through the same hole, we piss and reproduce with the same organ, and that's just off the top of my head.
God's image sure is shitty.
VitriolicAC 2 weeks ago
@01sircharles and also even though the quohog clam lives 400 years they still cant make enrgy
LolableTV 1 day ago
if there is a god,he/she/ have horrible communcation skills, likes wars,advocates slavery ,demands murder for honor,stoning to death in public now adam and eve got busy, and so god made it ok for incest and inbreeding and intervened with the genetics and dna properties for a certain amount of time but never really said when OK IT's TIME to stop fucking you sister or aunt and uncle, nephew, niece,and cousin.people knew half a million years ago not to do that. same time as don't eat green meat
01sircharles 1 month ago
I love this shit!!
tastofuckindaddy 1 month ago
@Sam10947 He has kids.
Aeoliandorian 1 month ago
LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!
GirlonFilm1969 1 month ago
a motherfucking fag with gray hair...
Sam10947 1 month ago
My respect for this ugly hoarse throat wanker has gone right down. Sort of funny, but he justs insults muslims and religion in general!
PANGEA95 1 month ago
@PANGEA95 And? ha ha. They are a bunch of fucking morons. This world has been ruined by religious twats.
MrTech012 1 month ago
@MrTech012 No, this world is the way it is today because of religion. In simpler times, people needed it to stay on the right path, and bring the world to where it is today. Of course science was the biggest factor, but religion kept the order. There you go, lesson over, so fuck you!
PANGEA95 1 month ago
@PANGEA95 Ha Ha.... Sounds like I offended a religious moron! Actually, you are right (to an extent) with people being kept on the straight and narrow etc. BUT, and it's a big but.... You can't deny religious nutcases just go round in circles bashing their heads on their fucking books and forget to live their lives. Religion is a crock of shit, and the world would be damn closer to peace if it wasn't around.
MrTech012 1 month ago
@MrTech012 Oh ha ha! trust me mate, you didn't offend a religious wanker! Far from it, no, religion does cause half the problems today though. It had its place in the past and was for the better, but people like the taliban, jehovahs witness, US christian bb nutcases, zionists, they just make religion an outdated liability to this planet.
PANGEA95 1 month ago
@PANGEA95 That's the point, ya bellend.
thesizzaman 1 month ago
53 Virgins, ALL male.
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theafi99000 1 month ago
fucking alcoholic.
786chilly 1 month ago
i use to be reoliges.......but then i took an arrow to my knee:L
MRGRIFFINATOR1 1 month ago
Lol wot a fucking retard I mean u don't have to shout to be funny just have am good gags this guy is shit I would rather watch paint dry than this ugly twat!
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TheChe0101 1 month ago
in a natural world, good men would do good things and bad men would do bad things, but for a good man to do a bad things, that takes religon
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@themikezster
Substantiate Good and Bad in a natural world.
AkivaII 1 month ago
@themikezster Richard Dawkins, great man.
AceStrife 1 month ago
@themikezster and vice versa...
diavarezable 3 weeks ago
@diavarezable i woudn't be so sure, evil is an extremely powerful drug and a useful tool to boot, once you're in, it's very hard to turn back, even with the church, or the mosque, or temple you pray in trying to help
themikezster 3 weeks ago
@themikezster this is fucking hilarious
beautifulstar333 2 weeks ago
im a muslim and i love billy's materials including this one.
HKHAMZI 1 month ago
@HKHAMZI who cares
Atheist961 1 month ago
@Atheist961 i know no one cares my friend but i wrote that comment to show not every muslim cant take a joke. sorry if my comment distrub u or any viewer.
HKHAMZI 1 month ago
@HKHAMZI I'm Allah and I hate Muslims, but I love billy's material including this one.
theafi99000 1 month ago
@theafi99000 don't hate muslims , hate islam mate.
HKHAMZI 1 month ago
@HKHAMZI Ha Ha! HOWS THAT SUPPOSED TO WORK!
PANGEA95 1 month ago
@HKHAMZI Ha ha hows that supposed to work!
PANGEA95 1 month ago
Click CC, then click "Transcribe Audio" then click OK. see how google's voice recognition software fails with Scottish people.
wellsey89 1 month ago
@wellsey89 i'ts like a michele stipe lyric
illinformedgeek 1 month ago
I want his accent.
wellsey89 1 month ago
@TheFSMChannel Man, are you serious? Islam isnt a detestable religion, you clearly dont know your history. Hellenistically influenced Islam praticed originally by the Mamluks and the Ottoman Empire inspired the Muslim world until after the world wars where the death of the Ottoman Empire, left places like Persia and Saudi Arabai to become the heads of Islamic thought rather than the Hellenistic influenced Ottoman Empire. Know your history man, British and French Imperialism started this.
GermanConquistador08 1 month ago
he is a fucking retard person.. its not funny.. he is a hater and showing his hates to public...what muslims did to him. after such insult he is still alive, what does it mean. its all lies what he is saying n portraying muslims... Muslims are only defending their lands...its their " crime" that u bastard invaded Muslims and muslims r trying to protect their lands from u robbers..u r guys r sick and thieves....
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BC is deranged & scary. He is as funny as cancer.
karezza6 2 months ago
@TheFSMChannel "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - The claims "THere is a God" and "There is no God" are BOTH extraordinary. "stop haranguing Atheists for not subscribing to your medieval bullshit" -Again, this WASNT what the discussion was about, it was about the historical concequence for religion and its impact on Western intellectual though. And medieval? Religion is timeless, it doesnt STAY in one particular era. The Council of Trent alone sends it into the modern age
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
@TheFSMChannel "Remember the burden of proof falls on the believer" -Whose rule is that? The state of being of a topic unknown isnt to say that it IS unknown. But regardless: "explain your supernatural beliefs or justify them" - Well, they've been EXPLAINED completely and throrughly its just most atheists fail to pay attention ot that. And the justification is the human need for God. The majority of human beings still believe in a higher power, even some irreligious people.
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
@TheFSMChannel "but you cannot explain your supernatural beliefs or justify them" - First of all, what does this have to do with the arguement about science? It doesnt matter whose right in this context because what DOES exist, is the religion itself and its heavy impact on Western Society. You're argueing that the impact is bad, I argue that it is good, this isnt a discussion about whos right and whos wrong, its a historical debate about the merits of religion on scientific thinking.
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
Look at all you pricks arguing about religious shit ;) Shut the fuck up and watch the REAL god :P
mattsgp 2 months ago
@TheFSMChannel "all of the things that these people have given the world are not BECAUSE of Christian beliefs but DESPITE their Christian beliefs" - Again, doesnt that arguement fly in YOUR face rather than ours? If your background, beliefs and society doesnt influence how science works, than no culture, religion or thought process is better OR WORSE by their scientific accomplishments? Either religion has nothing to do with science and by extent nothing else does, or it does and has.
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
@TheFSMChannel "like you are always a reminder of how anachronistic and utterly futile religion is" -And people like you are always a reminder of how closed-minded and insulting youtube atheists are.
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
@TheFSMChannel "yeah you're completely delusional" -Clearly. Because its impossible that my arguements are simplier weaker than yours I HAVE to be delusional for your arguements to be superior? Get out of here man! "can't name one Christian invention" - What is a Christian invention? THe hell would be an ATHEIST invention? How does one define the religion of a thought, piece of social philosophy or object? "you're living on another planet" -Clearly, I do.The internet exists on MARS! Come on man!
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
@TheFSMChannel Michael Faraday was a Christian blacksmith, his work on electricity and magnetism revolutionized physics. I understand the worlds dislike for religion as a whole, but the concept that religious people have not made a positive impact on the world is just ridiculous. There's Gandhi, Dr. King, Mother Theresa. Religion is here to stay, not every religious person in a mindless fanatic.
KurtCobain198666 2 months ago
@TheFSMChannel It's true that Christians have never invented anything, but they've made an impact on science. Isaac Newton for example could not grasp the idea of a non created universe, he was still a genius. Gregor Mendol was a monk who layed the mathematical foundations for genetics. Einstein was Jewish. Robert Boyle of 'Boyle's Law' was Christian. Max Planck was a Christian known for his work in quantum theory Religious people have made impact in science that's all i'm saying.
KurtCobain198666 2 months ago
@KurtCobain198666 Um, Einstein was agnostic, and Mother Teresa has bailed on catholicism. (I think you're taking liberties with Max Planck, But I don't know much about him)
Now lets get to the point, it's not people who are religious that I object to, it's the religion. Tell me, how did the wonderful mother church respond to Newton's discoveries? Open embrace? Wet sloppy kisses?
Then there's Galileo, almost burned at the stake for inventing a thermometer, so accepting.
rynther 4 weeks ago
@rynther The Catholic Church distorted the teachings of Jeus to a destestable degree, so I personally don't care about people's view on them. The fact that they're the richest establishment in the world, counters Jesus' teachings. Using saints as mediators counters Jesus' teachings. Having a man as the head of the Church counters the teachings of the Bible. They hold Mary in high regard, with no Biblical reason to do so. They're not Christian, just because they claim to be,
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 The Cannons essentially wrote the bible, you can't really separate the book from the church.
You can't say that the religion isn't being followed correctly either, when people are taught that they are forgiven for horrible things if they follow the right protocol, instead of personal responsibility, you get horrific behavior. That's why I have a problem with it.
rynther 4 weeks ago
@rynther Christians take personal responsibility for there action. We believe that its our own personal sins that nailed Jesus to a cross. The book very much can be seperated from Church. The book existed prior, and therefore, independantly of the Church. Sexual assualt of children in rampant in the Catholic church, that's not in the Bible. The accumilation of money by the Church is deemed immoral according to the Bible. Seems to me you've never read the book you make assumptions on.
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 You seem to be making more than a few assumptions about me. The Catholic sect is pretty bad, but I haven't seen a Christian church that doesn't pass the collection plate. My experience is more with the Baptist and Pentecostal sects, but I've seen others as well.
If they are using religion as an excuse for bad behavior, or they truly believe, it's impossible to tell the difference from the outside. Many just follow what the preacher says on faith.
rynther 4 weeks ago
@rynther Did the Church ever demand money of you? I attend a Pentecostal Church, and our Pastor always states that if we haven't come prepared to tithe, then let the bag go by. Tithing is part of the Christian faith which is found in the Bible. When Pastors pass the bag, they do so because they believe it's part of God's word. Most of our tithe goes on the Communion and hiring guest speakers, so it's based on faith rather than money grabbing.
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@rynther God teaches us to be more concerned about our relationship with Him, rather than tithing: "Woe to you, Pharisees! You tithe mint and rue and every edible herb but disregard justice and the love of God. These were rather the things one should practice, without neglecting the others." Luke 11:42. The Bible is how you should evaluate God's law, not how some Church interpets it. I know my Church does lots for Charity, especially in Uganda, so I'm happy to give.
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 I prefer to assist people directly, some I know, some I don't.
Without a finger pointing at me from the bronze age, saying do it or I'll fuckin' spank you.
rynther 4 weeks ago
@rynther As for Mother Therese, I believe you're referring to her saying this: "Where is my faith? Even deep down there is nothing but emptiness and darkness If there be God please forgive me. When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven, there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my very soul. How painful is this unknown pain—I have no Faith"
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@rynther The Rev. Brian Kolodiejchuk, her postulator (the official responsible for gathering the evidence for her sanctification) indicated there was a risk that some might misinterpret her meaning, but her faith that God was working through her remained undiminished, and that while she pined for the lost sentiment of closeness with God, she did not question his existence. Much like Jesus asking: "Eli Eli lama sabachthani?" which means "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?"
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@rynther But as i've pointed out, the Catholic Church distorted the Books, to suit it's own ends. Nuns are more Christian than the Pope, as they take vows of poverty. You're going to say there's nothing Holy about poverty, fair enough. But there's nothing Holy about clinging to wealth as the Pope does. Anyway, this is just me stating feel free to ridicule the Catholic Church and it's distorted truths, and pagan methods. It's not what I believe to be true anyway.
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 I'd rather you didn't put words in my mouth if that's okay with you.
The concept of giving up worldly possessions and helping others is a very noble practice. Although the help shouldn't come with strings, that poisons the act.
rynther 4 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 As a minor aside, even when I was religious, I referred to myself as a desciple of Christ, or a Taoist, not a Christian. I still hold many of the principals of Tao, the philosophy is helpful on several levels.
rynther 4 weeks ago
@rynther The term is disciple, but ok. The word Christian applies to anyone who followed the teachings of Christ. It literally means 'follower of Christ.' If you said to a Greek Christian that you're a follower of Christ, but not a Christian, they'd state its contradictory. So you can deny the label, but if you declare Jesus saviour, and live according to His laws, you'd still be a Christian.
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@rynther Also, Taoist and follower of Christ is an oxymoron. Christ taught that there's one heavenly Father (Hear O Isreal, Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one Deut 6:4) Taoists by nature believe in a Pantheon of Gods. Taoism doesn't teach of a personal Saviour, as the Bible does. Taoism doesn't teach ressurection as the Bible does. The two are utterly contradictory, no Taoist can follow Jesus' teachings and still call themselves Taoist.
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 Now whose making assumptions about a book they haven't read?
Just FYI, by the time I studied Tao, I wasn't a Christian, and you can strip all the god references out and still have some very good philosophical framework. You can be spiritual without being religious. Sam Harris talks about this kind of philosophical framework, and cautions atheists about dismissing it.
I'll forgive the confusion on this, you simply don't know me, and there is no crime in ignorance.
rynther 4 weeks ago
@rynther The aruement is mute. Taoism may teach some great philosophy, but so does the Bible- honour your parents, forgive those who harm you, don't steal, don't lie, don't commit adultry, don't judge others, don't act is racism, aid an escaped slave. The list goes on. Don't state that some Christians ignore the above, because some atheists have comitted genocide, it doesn't mean atheists SHOULD commit genocide. Jesus taught such a high level of morality, it's amazing.
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 Let's just start with don't judge others, when I see signs that say "fags will burn in hell" and "kill the fags" that rings very hollow indeed.
I won't state that some christians ignore the above, I'm stating that many do. Few in fact practice what they preach. You also seem to have left out the less attractive elements, like killing your bride on her fathers doorstep if she isn't a virgin.
Regarding atheists committing genocide, you might want to name them?
rynther 4 weeks ago
@rynther You're ignoring the fact that God doesn't expect Christians to follow the Old Testament law.For example, Christians don't have Ten Commandments, we have Two. So the laws about 'stoning a man who lays with another man' are obsolete. Even most atheists know this, as most know the 'Let he who is without sin...' teaching. Stalin and Mao were both atheists. You may state Stalin trained for preisthood, but he was expelled, closed the churches, and executed clergymen.
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@rynther Stalin followed the position that religion needed to be removed in communist society. To this end, his government promoted atheism through special atheistic education in schools, massive amounts of anti-religious propaganda, the antireligious work of public institutions (especially the Society of the Godless), discriminatory laws, and also a terror campaign against religious believers. By the late 1930s it had become dangerous to be publicly associated with religion.
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@rynther Now, you may state that this is because he was communist. Yes, he was atheist because he was Red, but Stalin killed religious people because he was atheist. You can't skip the atheist part of the equation. In fact, every communist regime, excluding Cuba, has been spearheaded by the concept that religion is evil. China and Cambodia destroyed pagodas and executed monks, Russia sent clergymen to the Gulags. Communism is atheism, it promotes atheism.
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 In the case of Stalin, he kept the state churches open, and used them for control, he eradicated all others, not quite atheist. Mao was a dyed in the wool power hungry mad man, who happened to be atheist. Compare that to the number of religious wars, and the bigger picture emerges. Not to mention the stifling of free speech, or the burning of gays, and others, because of PRACTICED doctrines. I am aware of the new covenant, but many christians seem to have overlooked that point.
rynther 4 weeks ago
@rynther So that was my point to begin with. You state that the issue is with the Bible, when it is not. Your issue is with mans interpritation of that law. A Christian follows the Laws of Jesus. A Christian should not stone gays, burn gays, judge a man etc. A Christian may do those things, but they tend to use the Old Testament laws to justify it, laws which are obsolete.
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 Um, no, I have a problem with the concept of belief without proof touted as a virtue.
BTW, are you seriously trying to argue that Darwin has the full support of the protestants? Ever hear of the scopes trial? How about the gross misrepresentation of a number of other theories?
And this discussion so far has not included any of the other religions out there.
rynther 4 weeks ago
@rynther So, because you perosnally can't comprehend faith, it is a 'problem'. Isn't that the definition of bigotry? I'm not arguing it as virtuous, I personally don't care how you view faith. But we as people take the most important aspect of our lives on faith-relationships. Nobody can proove a spouse loves them, beyond the idea that 'they told them so.' Eventually it boild down to belief. Sorry, but my God has never let me down. If you have an issue with faith, it's your issue.
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 First, I comprehend faith just fine. Second I didn't say you had a problem with it.
Still waiting to hear back on Darwin and the position of the protestants?
rynther 3 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 Bollocks. If a person is willing to live in a monogamous relationship with me for the rest of his or her life, entrusting his or her future - at least partly - to me, including me as the most important person in every consideration - besides, and sometimes even above, themselves, caring for me when I'm sick, providing emotional, financial, intellectual aid where needed and, last not least, willing to suck my dick... that's a lot of proof right there.
~Sylv
Sylvine 3 weeks ago
@Sylvine you're not quite grasping this are you. How do you know that person is staying monogamous? Are you around her 24/7? There's that saying about trust being the foundation of marriage, but trust eventually must extend to faith. Many partner's do not realise that there spouse is having an affair. Why? Because that spouse still cares for them, comes home to them, provides support etc. If you think any of that is proof of monogomy, you're very naive. Eventually it comes down to faith
KurtCobain198666 3 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 That's solipsism, and I don't engage in that. There's a pragmatic approach to things where things do not come down to faith. If someone says he likes noodles, and is eating them often in my presence, it is to be assumed that he doesn't do that to spite me,but that he actually likes noodles. Same with love (which =|= monogamy, nice shifting of goalposts). I examine and evaluate the evidence and conclude love is likely - I don't take it on pure faith.
~Sylv
Sylvine 3 weeks ago
@Sylvine this doesn't change my opinion of youy bein naive. Monogomy is something that cannot be prooven. You, your wife go out to work, you're away from each other 8 hours a day. Unless you can be with them all day, your partner must be alone. Every person who wants to can find time to cheat, you just have to trust that your spouse loves you. If you think love can be proven on the same level as gravity, you're missing the concept. It is faith in one another, and it grows from that.
KurtCobain198666 3 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 Sorce, plz? Love is obviously a subjective term, since we disagree on what it means so fundamentally.
Besides, monogamy actually _can_ be proven, we just choose not to attempt to, since we realize it's a wasted effort and potentially harmful to the relationship. As You said, if someone wants to have an affair, they will. And it's their damn right, too.
And it's me who is being naive?
Trust =|= faith. Trust is earned. Faith is just given.
~Sylv
Sylvine 3 weeks ago
@Sylvine: I concur with your distinctions. Personally, I don't see how faith is even considered a virtue.
chinopisces 2 weeks ago
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@Sylvine: I concur with your distinctions. Personally, I don't see how faith is even considered a virtue.
chinopisces 2 weeks ago
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@Sylvine: I concur with your distinctions. Personally, I don't see how faith is even considered a virtue.
chinopisces 2 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 None of this addresses the problem of the corrosive effect religion has on critical thinking, scientific pursuit, and free speech.
rynther 4 weeks ago
@rynther No, the Catholic Church had the issue with the early scientists. Name one scientist that came to heads with a Protestant Church? Some of the key minds in history were Christian- Isaan Newton, Robert Boyle, William Thomson Kelvin. Gregor Mendel was the first to lay the mathematical foundations of genetics, in what came to be called "Mendelianism." He was a monk. He began his research in 1856 (three years before Darwin published his Origin of Species)
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
@KurtCobain198666 Does the name Charles Darwin ring any bells?
rynther 4 weeks ago
@rynther Yes, I know of Darwin. But Mendel started his work on the origins of man before Darwin. We know Darwin as the father of the evolutionary theory, but it does'nt change the historic fact that Mendel was a monk, writing about this concept three years prior to the publication of Darwin's work. His work remained comparatively unknown until the turn of the century, when a new generation of botanists began finding similar results and "rediscovered" him. Patronisation-so ignorant
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@rynther Galileo was treated badly by the Church, but that doesn't change the fact that he was Catholic. Galileo expressly said that the Bible cannot err, and saw his view on the solar system as an alternate interpretation of the biblical texts. Millions of Afro-Americans who were Christian, Muslim etc, were mistreated by millions of white Americans pre 1970's America. What you're stating is an issue with the Church, rather than the canon law of the Bible, or the will of God.
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@rynther As for Galileos view on the universe (he stated that the Earth was not at the centre), there was no Biblical reason to believe the Earth is at the centre. The Bible states many things about the Sun, like it states the Sun is 'swimming along it's own path' (Astronomers have calculated that it takes the Sun 226 million years to completely orbit around the center of the Milky Way) but there's no 'earth is the centre quote.' Blame the ignorant Church of the times, not the Bible
KurtCobain198666 4 weeks ago
Must there always be a shit ton of these paragraphs below every video of a comedian talking about religion? For one, it draws away from the fact it's a funny video, jokes etc. Secondly, you'll never change a persons mind on Youtube of all places. Get it sorted.
rraabbeeoo 2 months ago
@TheFSMChannel "the ethnic cleansing of the indigenous population?" - Well first of all, the ethnic cleansing at least in South and central America, was completely by accident mostly by disease. The Spanish and Portugese rarely outright slaughtered natives, at least after getting footholds in the Caribbean. North American killing of natives didnt occur until the 19th century, and Christianity wasnt the ideology behind that, but a different one.
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
@TheFSMChannel "The slave trade?" - The slave trade had nothing to do with the bible, although its help in the discovery of ocean currents might of helped it along. The bible actually condemns the kidnapping of people and forcing them into slavery, as well as taking war prisoners into slavery. The slave trade also had NOTHING to do with the bible but economics. African slavetraders (mostly arab North Africans) had slaves, Eurpeans had colonies and needed labour for their plantations. Economics
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@TheFSMChannel "Where does the Bible lay the foundations of the creation of the United States?" - Well actually ENGLAND laid the foundation of the US, but what laid the foundation of England? A combination of all major Christian denominations and their doctrines of all have their holding in bibilical understanding. The doctrines of those denominations is what influenced these great thinkers and those doctrines come from the bible. I'm not prepared to explain every single one though
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
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@TheFSMChannel "Where does the Bible lay the foundations" - Well, I was quoting the history, which you can look at as a timeline between the English Civil War where the ideals of this kind of freedom were spearheaded by Sir Thomas Moore and Oliver Cromwell using the Christian doctrine of individualism and Lutheran political ideals respectively. Individual interconnecting verses wouldnt do at all, so bigger bibilica pciture: The Soul and freedom of the Will ala Erasmus would be a good start.
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
@TheFSMChannel "So you keep saying....but what did it create?" - I already said, the Reformist theology truely spurred the creation of the middle social class in Western society in the Netherlands along with the Puritans in England, the Catholic college system is the one which is used now by secular colleges, and the Protestant theology influencing political ideology created the idea of things like the social contract and freedom from autocratic government ala England and later the US.
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
@TheFSMChannel You can even trace the culture of the Reformist protestants to the creation of the middle-class in Europe. You can trace back our modern education system beta'd by the Catholic Church, the original sunday schools. Protestant ideals of freedom from government which ultimately led the creation of the United States. Atheists ignore the fact that half of Western Society is based on Judeo-Christian principle. They ignore it because to acknowledge it, would be to destroy their viewpoint
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
@GermanConquistador08 You are taking a big leap of faith my friend. I thought up a great ributal but let's just keep it at this: you are talking a lot of shit. Religion made it possible that scientist and great thinkers over centuries where not allowed to speak there minds. This already starts with socrates, plato and aristotle. PS before calling my comment shit it would suit you to back your claim up with some evidence. Thank you.
nozferatu1234 2 months ago
@nozferatu1234 "Religion made it possible that scientist and great thinkers over centuries where not allowed to speak there minds" - It certainly didnt do so for navigation scientists in Spain and Portugal. It didnt stop the great minds of the Italian renaissance and it certainly didnt prevent the military developments pre-30 years war. The Tercio was developed in Catholic Spain afterall. It was the time of the highly politized church that cenorship occured.
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@nozferatu1234 "already starts with socrates, plato and aristotle" - So, Christianity shut these men up? Despite the fact that they might be the most quoted and well known philosophers in the world? Right of course. "PS before calling my comment shit" - Your comment isnt shit, its just devoid of all historical understanding and I've brought the history to the table, you decide if its true or not by researching it.I know its true, I dont feel the need to look through sources like a college essey
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
@TheFSMChannel "but what did these faiths bring to the planet in terms of scientific development" - Religion is one of the biggest influences of culture, and Judeo-Christian tradition is what created western society, along with Classical traditions. Athens and Jerusalem are the pillars of western society. Christianity created massive progress in Europe for the same reason that Animism and Hinduism held back the cultures of the Americas and Indian sub-continent.
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
I might be stuck with 53 fuckin' Duran Duran fans or something :)))
tatohej 2 months ago
"Religion is over" -...clearly. Over 2/3s of the planet belong to the Abrahamic religions, and the number of irreligious is probably around, not even 1%. Yep, definately over. I'd say this is the equivelent of being four-nil down and calling the opposition done for eh? "you fucked it" - Clearly, all that progress done by Christians, Muslims, Jews, people of the Eastern faiths, never happened huh? And atheist progress did NOT take place under places religious free, due to religious values AH?!
GermanConquistador08 2 months ago
THERE IS NO GOD IF THERE IS WHY WAS I BORN DISABLED AND CHAVS AND TERRORISTS WALK AROUND WITH NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM.
RELIGION AND GODS ARE INVENTED BY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN A FANTASY LAND AND USE HELL AS A WAY OF SCARING PEOPLE INTO FOLLOWING THEIR FICTIOUS GOD. THAT AMAOUNTS TO BRAINWASHING.
jcj1984 2 months ago
I'd so go and see that musical.
KieRanRanaRan 2 months ago
im christian but i love this guy his funny XD
TheSusietv 2 months ago
fuck the jews who run the central banks
pigeonpsycho 2 months ago
Black with a wee fucking window!
Best suspect description ever.
RPSM101 2 months ago 2
Billy Connolly
Contains some normal language and religious views your beige ass may not agree with.
Please FUCK OFF if you are a beige asshole.Otherwise have a good laugh.
Is what it should say....
83Vires 2 months ago
The simple fact is if anyone wants to know the truth just go study Quantum mechanics measurement problem, and singularity theories "Hologram theory".
Until then you are all just uneducated idiots mocking your only chance at salvation.
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
@YeshuaisShekinah
Rofl, says the guys who, in his own post uses the word "theories" - and if you had actually read anything about it should know those very theories are so far from being generally accepted there's no point in mentioning them in any argument.
googlesucks987 2 months ago
@YeshuaisShekinah We both know that the Bible has nothing to do with science and everything to do with blind faith.
All religion is based on the “supernatural” and requires “The Suspension of Critical Thinking” or if you like “ the suspension of disbelief” in order to be able to embrace the belief as required.
No discussion of “quantum mechanics” or “black holes” and “singularities” can hide your inability to supply ANY proof that "science confirms everything in the Bible"
RichardBeckett66 2 months ago
@YeshuaisShekinah - I must assume your mention of black holes and singularities referred to a curvature singularity as predicted by general relativity to exist inside a black hole beyond the event horizon (which as you know, is not permitted by the laws of quantum mechanics).
Or do you reference to the kind theorized by general relativity (inaccurately) to be the initial state of the universe before the “big bang“ (which again, the laws of quantum mechanics won’t permit)
RichardBeckett66 2 months ago
@YeshuaisShekinah - Like all people of faith, you are scientifically bankrupt and not only have to seek protection in the cloak of your faith, but are attempting once again, to move “off topic“ and steer the conversation into a theoretical discussion totally unrelated to the the bible being "Scientifically" accurate.
People of faith are accustomed to making outrageous claims without being called on them.
This time you got caught and you don’t know which way to turn..
RichardBeckett66 2 months ago
@RichardBeckett66
All that bragging still does not change the fact that you are too ignorant to grasp QM's measurement problem and "Hologram Theory".
How horrible it must be for you, too ignorant for science not enough backbone for faith.
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
Lol @ googlesucks987
Notice how the ignorant make sure not to directly confront their superiors when they know they lack any truth or knowledge on the matter at hand. They never chance being challenged on their lies they only have half truths and slander because truth reminds them that they are in the dark because that is what they choose for in their insanity they think they can hide from GOD.
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
You are fully welcome to point out what you believe is a lie, and contradict it with some form of fact. This response of yours is weak rhetoric without any substance. You just repeated "I believe in GOD and he will smite you! Also, he cares if I capitalize his name or not!"
googlesucks987 2 months ago
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@googlesucks987 The simple fact is if anyone wants to know the truth just go study Quantum mechanics measurement problem, and singularity theories "Hologram theory".
Until then you are all just uneducated idiots mocking your only chance at salvation.
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
Lol @ YeshuaisShekinah
Look at all that ad hominem. Let's summarize what you've said shall we? "You're a dumdum, therefore the tooth fairy is real. The bible is legit because some material somewhere says so."
There is not one shred of evidence supporting christianity or judaism or islam or buddhism over any of the other. You can choose to belief in any if you'd like, I don't care, but never argue with someone else, because it boils down to a choice in the end.
googlesucks987 2 months ago
Oh, and btw, science? What junk science have you been into?
Genetics have shown humans trace back tens to hundreds of thousands of years based on number of calculable parents. This is confirmed in two genetic methods, one for men, the other for women.
Geology shows the age of the earth as being provably at minimum millions of years. Not only half-life, but also changes in the world's magnetic field and thats effect on the formation of rocks.
googlesucks987 2 months ago
At the very very best, even if we *gave* you that the world is xxxx years old, even though it is most very certainly not, that would not prove one religion over any other. A giant space penguin could've made earth with equal likelihood.
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@RichardBeckett66 “The procedure of measurement has an essential influence on the conditions on which the very definition of the physical quantities in question rests” ~ Niels Bohr 1935
You have no clue what that means do you?
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
@YeshuaisShekinah - Bohr’s “Copenhagen Interpretation” just argues in favour of Heisenberg’s “Uncertainty Principle” against Einstein’s assertion (later disproved)
SO WHAT. This does not speak to my simple question about your claim that science could prove that Noah could float ALL living animals as well as explain where all the water came from or disappeared to.
Your obfuscation has now “scientifically” proved to me (and everyone) that you are indeed “Just full of SHIT"
RichardBeckett66 2 months ago
@RichardBeckett66 No sir I am clarifying a point more profound than you are grasping.
"Ye shall live by faith in YHWH".
IF you really did understand what you just posted and understood "Hologram Theory" in the theoretical study of black holes or singularities you would be on the right track.
If you test for a very specific photon of light and are unable to establish a control enviroment what have you just learned?
All truth comes from GOD.
watch?v=zeRkjceJ4tI
Explain that.
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
@RichardBeckett66 Well now that we know you are the less intelligent and less informed we can both agree YHWH is real and his authority is reality.
Now we know it is science and observation that confirm the Bible and your excuses for disbelief have been shattered.
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
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@RichardBeckett66 You do know you can google "Quantum Mechanics Measurement Problem" and look for yourself instead of asking me to re-write a 15 page essay or to try to piece meal some weblink past youtube link police.
I can not think for you brother, you have to seek the true knowledge earnestly if you are too find it at all.
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
@YeshuaisShekinah “The procedure of measurement has an essential influence on the conditions on which the very definition of the physical quantities in question rests” ~ Niels Bohr 1935
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
@YeshuaisShekinah - I hear ya brother, on this there is no argument.....but I'm still waiting for you to supply the search perameters that will take me to the "Scientific" web site that supports your assertion that "science confirms everything in the Bible" using quantum mechanics, or ANYTHING scientific, as it applies to "my simple question".
Put up........or Shut up.......unless you're "just full of shit" in which case......nevermind.
RichardBeckett66 2 months ago
@RichardBeckett66 Brother I can see that you choose to be stubborn in your ignorance.
If you refuse the truth it is the same as rebelling. I do not have the time to explain every scientific truth since 1920 to you, it is your responsibility to vanquish your own ignorance.
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
@YeshuaisShekinah I don't want you to "explain every scientific truth since 1920" - Just supply the search perameters that will take me to the "Scientific" web site that supports your assertion that "science confirms everything in the Bible" using quantum mechanics, or ANYTHING scientific, as it applies to my simple question about Noah and all his his animals and where did all that water come from and go to "Scientifically"
How hard is that?
Or, are you just full of shit??
RichardBeckett66 2 months ago
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@RichardBeckett66 Ok I just gave you the first, “The procedure of measurement has an essential influence on the conditions on which the very definition of the physical quantities in question rests” ~ Niels Bohr 1935
Understand that first then we can move to the next point.
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
@AndySiner There is not one single problem with the Ten Commandments, if you are so sure there is then name them, don't boast about what you know prove it with what you say and do.
Do not blame your inability to understand for your lack of wisdon, blame the fact that you rebel against the true authority.
You do not know the first thing about quantum physics but somehow you have "proven" GOD wrong you say?
Boasts of a moron about the insanities in his own head!
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
@YeshuaisShekinah
"There is not one single problem with the Ten Commandments, if you are so sure there is then name them, don't boast about what you know prove it with what you say with."
I planned to but was limited by the character limit.I've written you a PM detailing all the problems I have with the commandments along with a response to the rest of your comment but you have friend lock on so you'll have to add me if you want me to send it.
AndySiner 2 months ago
@AndySiner Brother the boastful always claim knowledge they do not have so forgive me if I am not impressed with excuses. Post it in the light of day so all may witness that Yahweh is supreme.
The light wants all to see, the darkness always hides from the light.
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
@YeshuaisShekinah
Excuse? The message was all typed and the post button was pressed.I'm hardly coming up with an excuse.It's been saved and if you add me,it will be sent.If you think I'm coming up with an excuse not to post then call my bluff.You can always delete me after you're done talking with me.I'm not posting it here in sections because posting 20 something consecutive messages here is tantamount to spamming.
AndySiner 2 months ago
@AndySiner Andy in the time it took you to post those two comments I could have explained the Measurement problem. I am afraid we can not debate if you are not on my level of understanding.
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
@YeshuaisShekinah
Good for you.Have a cookie.If you find time in your busy schedule of beating around the bush and changing the subject and declaring your superiority and refusing to back up your claims until some condition is met while accusing me and RichardBeckett of doing the same to find a pair of balls then feel free to add me and you'll get your message. Until then this dialogue is over. In the meantime I'll be over here not holding my breath.Buh-bye now.
AndySiner 2 months ago
@AndySiner Actually sir I was waiting on you to post what was "wrong" with the ten commandments and in the mean time brought up a supercedeing point about the fabric of reality which you still fail to understand proves that GOD exists.
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
@AndySiner - Andy......It ain't that hard......Just post a "scientific" website that supports your assertion that "science confirms everything in the Bible" using quantum mechanics, or ANYTHING scientific, as it applies to my simple question and I'll shut up. I'm guessing that would impress the hell out of YeshuaisShekinah as well.......
Or, as I asked before.....are you just full of shit???
Good luck with that.
RichardBeckett66 2 months ago
When you do not know the Ten Commandments and live your life for only yourself, when you stand before Yeshua to be judged what will you say?
There is only one reality and the more you bother to stay up on your scientific studies and you do your best to learn the Holy Bible with out preconnceptions you will realize that science confirms everything in the Bible.
People and their assumptions are what causes the problem.
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
@YeshuaisShekinah
There's so many problems with the ten commandments it's not even funny. And you don't need to be a christian to know the few valid ones.And you say 'when' you stand before Yeshua like it's a foregone conclusion.You need to demonstrate why it is for anyone to take that threat seriously.
And science confirms everything in the bible? o_0
You don't even need to go past the first page to see a whole bunch of things the bible gets scientifically wrong.
AndySiner 2 months ago
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