This asshole won't see anyone take him up on his "challenge" (psychic, homeopathic, or otherwise) in his wretched lifetime, not because of fear, but because he has no credibility with those outside his pathetically sick and power hungry cult. When he croaks, I hope he finds that Hell exists, and proceeds to burn to a crisp in it.
@RMscribe "This asshole won't see anyone take him up on his "challenge" (psychic, homeopathic, or otherwise) in his wretched lifetime..."
That's hilarious, because LOTS of self-deluded and self-proclaimed psychics and homeopaths apply for the test all the time. The tests are all designed in cooperation with the challengers. So, do you have any other erroneous claims that you're quoting from someone who got butthurt by the JREF, or are you quite done?
@wawei67 You deserve a medal for this comment. Not only is Randi a high school dropout with NO scientific background, but the tests for his "challenge" are also biased, and the money promised doesn't exist. He doesn't give a fuck about people being "endangered" or "fooled" by homeopathy. He's just looking for publicity, and would rather people donate their money to HIS nearly bankrupt foundation than spend it as they see fit. He's clearly the only "charlatan" in this equation.
"Randi a high school dropout with NO scientific background"
You don't need that much of an education to see through most of the bullshit he has to deal with.
"the tests for his "challenge" are also biased, and the money promised doesn't exist."
In what way are they biased? Also, follow this link to see the statement for the challenge prize money: ht tp://ww w.randi. org/site/images/stories/evercore.p df
PubMed is full of studies showing a favorable outcome of homeopathy. Do a little research, you might find that the unbiased science database provides more insight than skeptic magazines.
Dear Mr.Randi.Please let me ask you a question,I have to do it here because my access to your website and forum is blocked.What do you have to say about the"mother of all' hoaxes-so called "holocaust".How is it that you-with all you zeal in unmasking scams left this mega -scam alone?Considering the damage done by sellers of the holo-oil ,the sellers of snake oil are children from sandpit.
As a pharmacist @ one of the chains named @ 2:21, I regularly get asked questions about homeopathic products. Almost always, I recommend against their use. The only homeopathic product I recommend is Hyland's Leg Cramps because it contains quinine (although it is an infinitesimally trace amount). Patients often want quinine for their leg cramps--when I recommend this product, I always disclaim by stating the questionable efficacy and just recommend it to them in order to get them to leave LOL
@jtoenges999 I will further add that, before I recommend Hyland's Leg Cramps, I always ask patients what other medications, prescription or OTC, he/she has taken for relief of leg cramps. If patient claims he/she has tried everything else without relief and insists on something with quinine in it (since he/she heard it from someone else who supposedly heard it from his/her physician), it is then and oly then that I show them Hyland's Leg Cramps as a last resort product.
When I was a teenager and was getting bad acne, I used to buy acne medication from OTC. Nothing worked until I finally got the medication prescribed from the doctor. I even overdosed on some OTC acne medication since it had Vitamin A and I also took Multivitamins.
people were using ,are using, and will be using homeopathy.. it has got its fundamentals principle (fp).... use them according to fp and u will c miracle........ who the hell r u buddhe ....people greater than u in every aspect have used this and apprciated.
@Chadolution Yet they save MILLIONS of times more people than every bullshit "natural" "cure" combined. They have dangers, because they have an effect. Homeopathy has been conclusively disproven time and time again, yet the people who want it to have been real just get angry at anyone who points out its obvious failings. "natural" medicine is the reason a simple infection used to mean you were as good as dead and people rarely lived into their fifties.
Worth noting there's a fraud **ORGONE ENERGY** which is another Jewish fraud. Guess what - there's no campaign by Randall the mediocre magician and his merry band of hirelings.
homeopathic antihistamin is proven to work like real antihistamins by science, although they don't know what causes the effect (because no particle of antihistamins are left in the essence), it is believed the cause of the effects can be found in quantumn physics.
@00Kaleidoscope00 It is believed by supporters only. The operative word being "believes". Quantum physics don´t have anything to do with it. That´s just a cheap and easy excuse that believers resort to
@ebrobaru well it was in some science paper, and only about the antihistamin stuff (for allergies). they found out this one really works and said maybe quantum physics can show us why. but i think the reason is, because most allergic people are not really allergic (studies showed that half of them just react allergic because they believe they are), so it could be like a placebo effect or something. who knows. the mind can f**k up the body really hard lol
@00Kaleidoscope00 Oh yes I agree, a lot of the human illnesses are psychosomatic. But bthe problem is that these "scientific" papers are anything but that. Quantum physics has nothing to do with that. That´s just soemthing that these quacks resort to because it is the "in" thing and very few people actually understand it. Thus giving their "theories" some sense of scientific background, while they are nothing buth hot air.
@Gilroben Or use homeopathic immunization remedies to become immune to CN- ions and force the cells to use oxygen as electron acceptor in cellular respiration despite the presence of cyanide!!!
@Gilroben The way they think it works is that if you take homeopathic A then you become immune to A so homeopathic would make you immune to cyanide. But since water is the liquid of life perhaps if they give you homeopathic water it would make you immune to life thereby killing you.
The next time you go to the grocery store, step into the pharmacy section and grab all the homeopathic medicine. Move all the eyedrops and liquid "medications" to the bottled water section of the grocery store, and pack all the pills between bags of sugar in the baking aisle.
Thanks James, I'm going to show this to my mum tomorrow. She's a huge proponent of homeopathy and I've been doing my best to make her understand what a scam it is, but she will just not listen and it always ends in an argument. Her defense is that regular medicine kills (just like SexyMelon is saying here), and she really hates doctors. I am running out of ideas on how to make her understand and to stop trying to force me to take the sugar pills. Sometimes even when I have no ailments!
@VisionThing Oh one of those types. A person that has been made afraid of REAL doctors through false facts, rumors and all that kind of thing, and instead goes to bogus medicine, then claims it works. At most it might give a small placebo effect...
"A 2010 inquiry into the evidence base for homeopathy conducted by the United Kingdom's House of Commons Science and Technology Committee concluded that homeopathy is no more effective than placebo" - owned.
I believe they have -- JREF along with the UK science \ medical council did a double blind study and one company who makes homeopathic "medicines" did the challenge and failed -- I recall reading this somewhere, but I cannot remember where so I could be wrong.
I wonder how many years it'll take JREF to actually "challenge" things that matter. Like oh, say, US FDA?..
Did you know prescription drugs now kill more people in the US than road accidents? That majority of over-the-counter anti-depressants are toxic and habit-forming? Is that really the normal state of things? Isn't that a little more harmful than, well, essentially just plain water?
@SexyMelon - JREF will never attack serious issues. Jewish media control; profit from weapons; the 'Holocaust' fraud; the 'AIDS' fraud; the 9/11 fraud; the Rothschilds and paper money....
Homeopathy is a sort of heresy based on the ideas of vaccination. It's a pathetic error.
@tellnet I'm talking about "traditional" drugs that harm, hurt, kill and form hard dependencies, on top of which exists massive de-regulation and pharmaceutical fraud. The stranglehold that perfectly legal sham "medicine" puts on unsuspecting victims is much more dire than homeopathy or similar nonsense could ever possibly claim.
It's like warning a cancer patient about dangers of allergy. You may be right, but you're missing the point.
@SexyMelon I hate to break it to you but your "perfectly legal sham "medicine"" Is, in fact homeopathy. I hope you're not referring to modern pharmaceuticals which actually serve a purpose in your statement.
Homeopathy is a sham and should be banned along with all the other pseudo-science bullshit out there like psychic surgery and faith healing.
@KamekoBruns What I'm saying is that whatever harm homeopathy or any other kind of sham medicine may be causing, it is absolutely abysmal compared to what many other medications that don't go by any single umbrella term ("homepathy") can do - and, in many cases, already have done - to unsuspecting ill people, and yet JREF is never seen addressing the issue.
I really don't know how to make myself any clearer.
@SexyMelon I think using proper words would help make your points clearer. You say that the harm caused by homeopathy is "abysmal compared to" other medications which do not have "umbrella terms", whatever those are.
So if you meant to use the word abysmal then you are right. Homepathy is appallingly bad. No argument there.
But are you referring to pseudo-science like psychic surgery or are you referring to medications like Lipitor which are actually FDA tested and approved?
@tellnet@tellnet - I'm not 'way off the mark'. Randi's outfit does not address important issues. It's a form of official media. There are a million more serious issues than homeopathy. And they need more than a third rate conjurer to deal with them.
Anyone (such as yourself) who refers to "the 'Holocaust' fraud; the 'AIDS' fraud; the 9/11 fraud" , and who refers to James Randi as "a third rate conjurer ".... is obviously mentally deranged.
@tellnet - Anyone as stupid as you must have psychological issues, since you are unable to read and research for yourself. Almost certainly, you masturbate far too much and abuse children. You are a danger to others as well as yourself.
That which you just said describes exactly the position of a sensible rational person towards homeopathy - you however have a different interpretation !
Homeopathy is based on the idea that by diluting a chemical to an extreme degree, you reverse the effect instead of just having no effect. So it's like thinking you can divide 1 by a really really huge positive number and get a NEGATIVE number as the result. So even a middle school student should be able to understand how stupid homeopathy is.
I always tell homoeopaths that all water is REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY ... ... REALLY diluted dinosaur sewage. And then remind them that the more diluted it is, the more potent it is. If it just so happens that I have some water on me I'll offer it, or drink it myself.
@innerlocus but using a placebo as a medical treatment would require patients to be deliberately lied to by their physicians - which most people tend to think is unethical. Informed consent is every patients right.
I believe in self-education, not more government oversight by corrupt agencies that have already usurped a lot of rights and freedoms to favor political cronies. Thank you to James Randi for being an educator. In the Age of Information, there is just no excuse for ignorance. The nanny state is a poor replacement for personal responsibility.
@sweetcara14 we still live in society - not caves. When people arent educated/trained in critical reasoning, they can be vulnerable to those who use pseudoscientific language. In the "Age of Reason", facts can be manipulated. Homeopaths present themselves as Authorities on health and science - people are conditioned to trust the authority of science. Understanding good science from bad isnt easy, even 4 trained people. "Personal responsibility" rhetoric taken too far can result in inustice.
@tomrw54 Good point, but then something like an impartial scientific consumer guide would be the ideal resource, not a corrupt government agency that is anything but impartial, efficient or honest. There are people and groups like James Randi's who are excellent resources for people who are seeking real information. Relying on government to solve all of our problems is clearly not the answer and often results in far greater injustices.
@sweetcara14 you're probably right. But in my experience it would need to go much further than simply a consumer guide - which in a complicated area such as evidence-based health, can itself me misinterpreted. The concept of "statistically significant" is hard to put into context such that it can be used to inform the fundemental right to informed choice. In my experience, it would need to be an large insitution. Questions are then raised in regards to scrutiny, funding etc and impartiality...
@tomrw54 It is a complicated issue. However, all that the nanny state is doing is making the public more helpless and vulnerable while they fill the coffers for themselves and their cronies by emptying ours. I would err on the side of freedom, because it is morally legitimate. But not many recognize what that is anymore.
Homeopathic overdose is not real.Just like James Randi says.There is a million dollars waiting on you people out there that just swear by it.A MILLION DOLLARS.Go get it and prove him wrong.You can't and thats why it is just a bunch of bull.Anybody that wants to prove me wrong then go do his test and win the million bucks.
Actually most homeopathic remedies are intended to be taken under the tongue for about 90 seconds. Downing them like Randi does in his demonstrations is not taking them as directed and unlikely to produce any effect. And who's to say his pills are really homeopathic and not just sugar pills. His demonstrations are crap.
@yiranimal You're right, Randi took too much and too fast. Obviously such a high dosage of active ingredients, being part of a Homeopathic remedy, weakened the remedy's effects.
Mundane remedies such as, you know, medicine, would have had the opposite effects as such high doses even if they had exactly the same active ingredients.
@yiranimal You're right, Randi took too much and too fast. Obviously such a high dosage of active ingredients, being part of a Homeopathic remedy weakened the remedy's effects.
Mundane remedies such as, you know, medicine, would have had the opposite effects as such high doses even if they had exactly the same active ingredients.
Randi, you're doing your overdose demonstrations wrong. Don't you know how homeopathy works? Taking a whole PACKET of homeopathic sleeping pills is not overdosing, it's UNDERdosing.
To OVERdose on homeopathic pills, you have to swallow just a tiny chip out of a single pill. Duh! ;-)
@KrisBlueNZ OK I just done what you said,I took a tiny chip of a single pill.So now I guess in your mind I just OD.We will see.I will let you know what happens,but we already know whats going to happen-NOTHING.Duh!
@KrisBlueNZ I know.Homeopathic pills are the biggest con going right now.Lots of people believe in it.Randi sure is putting on the years now or I guess the years are really showing,one of the two.You have a good day :-)
@KrisBlueNZ Randi once wrote in Swift (the JREF's newsletter) that technically everyone is overdosing on homeopathic medicine at all times simply by not taking any.
@amirvega i never mentioned an experience, also i have no illiterate condition. lol good one and if your not trolling use some of your masters in molecular bio to explain homeopathy instead only using anecdotal evidence.
the same people who are taking this medicine are unfortunate. just like the people who still give money to Peter Popoff. A swindler of an evangelist that James Randi exposed decades ago as a complete fraud yet he is to this day still operating and taking money from innocent and ignorant people.
Homeopathy works and that's for sure, though we don't know yet exactly how it works.
There is no reason whatsoever to oppose it to "mainstream" medecine, it is just an element of treatment amongst many others, and all arguments against it may be used against other treatments.
Some say that it is only based on a placebo effect, but placebo is a major factor in any kind of therapy, and homeopathy is used with success by veterinaries...
Above all, it is a minor health issue compared to many others!
Sadly I cannot convince my parents that Homeopathic medicine do not work, they insist that they does :P, I guess thats just something they were raised with, not that they don't go to real doctors, but they do rely on homeopaths sometimes. I think the problem is a lot worse in East, Homeopaths are very popular there..
You are the best James randi! I love your work and your dedication, I'm from Spain and I think you have a great talent and I'm glad you share it with all of us:)
Sequel to my other post: Clearly all the hocus pocus arount that speaking to the pacient is bullshit but it helps the patient to be conviced to get well. I think the placebo effect shouldn't be underestimated and can only work if it costs money or there is many hocus pocus.
The other side is the industry which forms around such things which sells alot sh**, like Power Balance or this older magnet bracelets which are just embarrassing. But to cut the "usefull" line its difficult.
The important thin is that it helps people, even when it's "only" the placebo effekt. Many normal drugs only help to damp the symptoms (like aspirin). They didn't heal the pacient. The pacient heals itself from a flu for example. Mostly you didn't get medicine to cure a flu (only in the worst case). You heal yourself. And when you are convinced you get well this works. In the other case it works too, your mind can make you sick. Like stress is an accepted illness.
In my oppinion homeopathy works. And yes it is because of the placebo effect, but that applys to many "normal" drugs too. Since the body can heal itself and it helps when the patient is convinced he will get well.
Even those "healers" you can put in this category. They practice something the normal doctors can't give their pacients anymore. They hear what the pacient has to say and response to them. There are many psychological effects in the healing process and i helps a lot.
Good video, although it's a little annoying that when you spoke of people being ripped off by this scam, you focused on parents and children, as if they're the only ones being ripped off.
@hurbyfatboy666 Probably because the evil atheist conspiracy is working with satan to distort the testing results. That can be the only explanation surely?
@amirvega just because something is "natural" doesn't make it safe or "good". there a many types of mushrooms that are deadly and poisonous but they are natural. i don't believe you have a college degree let alone a MASTERS in molecular biology because you sound like a dumbass. i can go on youtube and say i have doctorate in medicine too. see?
one wonders if they even bother diluting anything anymore, its probably just empty pills and plain water right from the go. and even if it had some molecules its less than a drop in the ocean, you can drink such solutions with poison in them instead of regular water for the rest of your life and experience nothing.
Mr. James Randi...do you have a better, alternate, safer way to cause the placebo effect? That is the whole point of homeopathy. it does work, doesnt it?
@ianero5olitario A safer way? How about this... Tell people tap water cures disease and somehow convience them to believe it. Water from your own water tap is still cheaper than the tap water that is sold as homeopathic medicine.
Dont you see? To convince people as you suggest that tap water can cure disease would cost much more than homeopathy. I'm nos saying its a good thing, or the best way to spend your health money, I am saying it works in many cases, and it is considerably cheaper and less invasive than alopathy.
"Modern medicine" has a long story of abuse and seldom places the patient before the money.
@byteresistor My "logic" works better than your reading, apparently: Please note my post "I´m nos (not) saying it´s a good thing, or the best way to spend your health money, I AM SAYING IT WORKS IN MANY CASES, and it is considerably cheaper and less invasive..."
At which point did you read "it cures everything including cancer"???
@ianero5olitario True, "it works in some cases" - that's the nature of the placebo effect. Besides, some illnesses like ear infections last around a week, medicine or no. You think the drug/placebo cured you? Your body did the job anyway. Problem is, someone is getting filthy rich off of homeopathy. Personally I'm not okay with that and shrugging it of as "what's the harm?" is exactly why scammers can operate as they do. Apathy is the con artists' best friend.
@theoldbat40 My grandmother used to pray a lot, particulalry on her last years. Did it made any difference in the lives of her loved ones? Maybe a bit, for it made her life much more easy and pleasurable, her own self telling her that all her praying wouldgetmea better job and a good wife. Of course it was just a fantasy, but fantasy can get you places. That is my point: homeopathy has done damage? Alopathy has too. Tricking ourselves into health has a certain value.
@ianero5olitario I get that placebo effects are good for some things. The problem is when you take your sick child (who can't decide for themselves) and have them "treated" with water, denied vaccines and so on. A baby can't be fooled into thinking he's better by taking water. His pain's not gonna go away by his mother's fantasy. So while I do see your point, I still think this sort of fantasy is hurtful to us all in the long run. I refuse to support their scam financially or by not speaking up.
@ebrobaru Sure it does. Same as a lot of other things, for instance, taking the wrong medication by a misdiagnosis. Once again, Im not selling homeopathy, all Im trying to put in the table is that alopathy is not a good solution either.
Have you guys ever heard of natural medicine? tea, herbes, ancestral treatments. It does not cure cancer either, but it does has a much better effect on human body than afrin.
Is someone making a lot of money on homeopathy? Jail him. What about Pfeizer? worse
@ianero5olitario Yes natural medicine is very effective. You should know that 99% of the alopathic medicine comes from natural ingredients. Of course alopathy is a great business. Nobody denies that. But the thing is that it works unlike the sham that is homeopathy
@ebrobaru Do you know how many living species of plants have a patent? You do not see how little alopathy cares for people? Have you never heard of the terrible consecuences of "modern medicine" has had in its history. Once again I am not substituting one for the other, I am just saying, if you want to demonize one, be fair and look at both wreckages.
@ianero5olitario Now you sound like the typical conspirationalist of "big pharma". Of course alopathic medicine is a big business, but that doesn´t mean it desn´t work. If it weren´t for "modern medicine" as you call it, life expectancy worldwide would still be in the 30s.
Where did I say alopathy did not work? Where did I espressed homeopathy or herbes are the only way to health? Matteroffactly, I believe the big pharma is a dirty business, a blood bathed business. You can call me a conspiracytheorist all you want, I wont take that as an insult.Homeopathy is not our worst health problem, nor our shamest scam. Which is not the same as saying homeopathy is what we should all go for.
@ianero5olitario If it weren´t for science, you wouldn´t be posting on this very site. Homeopathy business is worth millions worldwide every year. So I´d say that yes, it is our worst health problem. Maybe big pharma is a dirty business. But the thing is that it works, more often than not
@ebrobaru Oh. Did you think I was being sarcastic about modern science?
Let me understand, you are arguing FOR alopathy and then you wrote FOR homeopathy?? "yup i have a homeopathic doctor and he treated my problem so dont listen to these pricks please please i am telling you .."
@ianero5olitario I didn´t agrue for homeopathy. I simply stated that it is a multimillion dollar industry. So, yes I think it is our worst health problem.
@ianero5olitario "allopathy" is a term only used by homeopaths, much like how creationists use "macro/micro-evolution" and fundamentalists use "pro-abortion" etc. It kinda kills your credibility to use made-up terminology.
@Kerberoz01 Thank you for making me look into it. I disagree about it being a made up term. And I think I do not have any credibility to start with, since everyone that has adressed my comments argues as if I wanted everyone to become homeopathic clients.
@theoldbat40 I think that for some reason I can´t get my point across. I do not advocate for homeopathy. I do not have, and will not say that it is ok that someone scams any other person.
What I keep saying is that precisely for the placebo effect, homeopathy is a very useful tool.I repeat: It does not make it the best human answer to disease. But why deny that we have that thing that makes us feel better just by telling ouselves we are doing something about it. Let me use an analogy:
@amirvega To prove it to me or anybody else for that matter, you should provide any studies proving it works of peer reviewed scientists and not homeopathy magazines or peddlers. Otherwise then it just becomes anecdotical evidence and that cannot construe proof. Yes, medicines are a bib big business, and yes, mafias do indeed control it. But that doesn´t mean that they don´t work, and even less, that homeopathy does work
@amirvega No thanks, when I catch a cold, I would take the medicine that I have always taken since being a kid and that has worked fine for me. It´s good that you feel better after two weeks, but have you ever heard of placebo effect? Yes, these remedies, not medicines, have no side effects. But they have no effects either because, not because of having natural ingredients, but because the infinitesimal dilutions tehy have and that are the principle of homeopathy
@amirvega I see that you have impressive qualifications. I never said implied that you were stupid. However since you have a degree in molecular biology, then you, better than anybody, can understand that the principles of homeopathy are based in nonsense. No matter how natural are the components of something if those components are zero. It doesn´t matter if Randi is close minded or not. What matters are the facts.
@amirvega No, he is the reason why there are more and more people that are learning to use their brains before falling into scams like these. It doesn´t matter if you are close minded or not. The thing is if something works or not
@amirvega Yeah, a lawyer that is famous for being a nut case and nothing reliable. The big hoax is people like you claiming to still believe in fairies and conning people for big money.
I have to disagree with Randi on this one. I had gallbladder disease for yrs and was misdiagnosed. The pain is unbelievable, nothing touches it. I was introduced to Nux
Vomica 30c and started taking that when I would have an attack. It worked so well I went 7 yrs misdiagnosed and 26 stones later in my main bile duct. So it did work and probably delayed my diagnosis and treatment. If I didn't take the Nux Vomica I might have been diagnosed sooner. I agree to disagree!
i get how its made, i get its a sugar pill, and i get you cant overdose on it, but will someone tell me why when i take the homeopathic "drug" oscillococcinum i get over a cold or flu in about 24 hours every time? the other 10 or so i tried did nothing at all but oscillococcinum for one reason or another works great.
first randy you have to take homoeopathy medicine ,i think u have some problem ..YOU ARE A PHARMACEUTICAL FOOL.....WORD U SAID NOT YOURS ...YOU LIKE A FOX......
I don't believe in homeopathy and would like to follow this but is he missing teeth? I can't stand his voice and lisp is there a text?
SunshineHerbals 1 week ago
This asshole won't see anyone take him up on his "challenge" (psychic, homeopathic, or otherwise) in his wretched lifetime, not because of fear, but because he has no credibility with those outside his pathetically sick and power hungry cult. When he croaks, I hope he finds that Hell exists, and proceeds to burn to a crisp in it.
RMscribe 3 weeks ago
@RMscribe lol an angry religious nut in denial about reality.
sad and pathetic.
OyonTheAdept 3 weeks ago
@RMscribe now thats a disgusting comment from someone who claims their religion is love. pathetic.
gphhawkins 3 weeks ago
@RMscribe "he has no credibility with those outside his pathetically sick and power hungry cult"
All the more reason to take his money, surely. That would dent his credibility even more!
"When he croaks, I hope he finds that Hell exists, and proceeds to burn to a crisp in it."
That must be that Christian love I'm always hearing about.
StealthDonkey007 3 weeks ago 4
@RMscribe So much hate! So what hero of yours did he debunk? Psychic? Astrologer? Dowser?
ebrobaru 3 weeks ago
@RMscribe "This asshole won't see anyone take him up on his "challenge" (psychic, homeopathic, or otherwise) in his wretched lifetime..."
That's hilarious, because LOTS of self-deluded and self-proclaimed psychics and homeopaths apply for the test all the time. The tests are all designed in cooperation with the challengers. So, do you have any other erroneous claims that you're quoting from someone who got butthurt by the JREF, or are you quite done?
TheGreatSparky 2 weeks ago
@wawei67 You deserve a medal for this comment. Not only is Randi a high school dropout with NO scientific background, but the tests for his "challenge" are also biased, and the money promised doesn't exist. He doesn't give a fuck about people being "endangered" or "fooled" by homeopathy. He's just looking for publicity, and would rather people donate their money to HIS nearly bankrupt foundation than spend it as they see fit. He's clearly the only "charlatan" in this equation.
RMscribe 3 weeks ago
@RMscribe
"Randi a high school dropout with NO scientific background"
You don't need that much of an education to see through most of the bullshit he has to deal with.
"the tests for his "challenge" are also biased, and the money promised doesn't exist."
In what way are they biased? Also, follow this link to see the statement for the challenge prize money: ht tp://ww w.randi. org/site/images/stories/evercore.p df
StealthDonkey007 3 weeks ago
PubMed is full of studies showing a favorable outcome of homeopathy. Do a little research, you might find that the unbiased science database provides more insight than skeptic magazines.
MorrisonEnterprise 1 month ago
@MorrisonEnterprise care to give some examples?
ebrobaru 1 month ago
@ebrobaru I copy+pasted about 5 abstracts with my original comment, but YouTube wouldn't let me post. Ergo the challenge to do some homework. :)
MorrisonEnterprise 1 month ago
@MorrisonEnterprise You can put the links without the dots with spaces instead
ebrobaru 1 month ago
Dear Mr.Randi.Please let me ask you a question,I have to do it here because my access to your website and forum is blocked.What do you have to say about the"mother of all' hoaxes-so called "holocaust".How is it that you-with all you zeal in unmasking scams left this mega -scam alone?Considering the damage done by sellers of the holo-oil ,the sellers of snake oil are children from sandpit.
Jerzy Ulicki-Rek
Bieszczady73 1 month ago
As a pharmacist @ one of the chains named @ 2:21, I regularly get asked questions about homeopathic products. Almost always, I recommend against their use. The only homeopathic product I recommend is Hyland's Leg Cramps because it contains quinine (although it is an infinitesimally trace amount). Patients often want quinine for their leg cramps--when I recommend this product, I always disclaim by stating the questionable efficacy and just recommend it to them in order to get them to leave LOL
jtoenges999 1 month ago
@jtoenges999 I will further add that, before I recommend Hyland's Leg Cramps, I always ask patients what other medications, prescription or OTC, he/she has taken for relief of leg cramps. If patient claims he/she has tried everything else without relief and insists on something with quinine in it (since he/she heard it from someone else who supposedly heard it from his/her physician), it is then and oly then that I show them Hyland's Leg Cramps as a last resort product.
jtoenges999 1 month ago
wow. santa lost some of his jolly! just jokes, viva randi
DrunkenNuts 1 month ago
HOMEOPATHY = HORSESHIT
sritger 1 month ago
@wawei67 another conspiration theorist freakazoid
ebrobaru 2 months ago
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When I was a teenager and was getting bad acne, I used to buy acne medication from OTC. Nothing worked until I finally got the medication prescribed from the doctor. I even overdosed on some OTC acne medication since it had Vitamin A and I also took Multivitamins.
YoukipsD 2 months ago
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YoukipsD 2 months ago
people were using ,are using, and will be using homeopathy.. it has got its fundamentals principle (fp).... use them according to fp and u will c miracle........ who the hell r u buddhe ....people greater than u in every aspect have used this and apprciated.
pawam89 2 months ago
Please also speak out against pharmaceuticals. Prescription drugs kill or sicken hundreds of thousands of people every year.
Chadolution 2 months ago
@Chadolution Yet they save MILLIONS of times more people than every bullshit "natural" "cure" combined. They have dangers, because they have an effect. Homeopathy has been conclusively disproven time and time again, yet the people who want it to have been real just get angry at anyone who points out its obvious failings. "natural" medicine is the reason a simple infection used to mean you were as good as dead and people rarely lived into their fifties.
harboy4u 2 months ago 2
Dude, James Randi rocks
anzwertree 2 months ago 2
Worth noting there's a fraud **ORGONE ENERGY** which is another Jewish fraud. Guess what - there's no campaign by Randall the mediocre magician and his merry band of hirelings.
rerevisionist 2 months ago
Only with Randi, it's more like homopathy.
StopTheMorons 2 months ago
absolutely correct, I love you James Randi, how can I attend a seminar that you present. x
TheRosemariesuz 3 months ago
A great man. A humanitarian in the true sense of the word. Keep looking out for your fellow man; you are needed. And thanks!
tecamachalco100 3 months ago 3
I wana go into boots & eat the entire stock of homeopathic sleeping pills & wait for them to call an ambulance.
JohnH108 3 months ago
I watched your videos a lot of times. Maybe I will read a book from you.
It's sad you don't live forever. We need a man like you on this earth forever.
I hope you will come to Belgium sometimes to give a lecture or something.
MisterRubinio 3 months ago in playlist Videos from JamesRandiFoundation
homeopathic antihistamin is proven to work like real antihistamins by science, although they don't know what causes the effect (because no particle of antihistamins are left in the essence), it is believed the cause of the effects can be found in quantumn physics.
00Kaleidoscope00 3 months ago
@00Kaleidoscope00 Bull! Why hasn't it won the million dollars then?
DrToonhattan 3 months ago
@00Kaleidoscope00 It is believed by supporters only. The operative word being "believes". Quantum physics don´t have anything to do with it. That´s just a cheap and easy excuse that believers resort to
ebrobaru 3 months ago
@ebrobaru well it was in some science paper, and only about the antihistamin stuff (for allergies). they found out this one really works and said maybe quantum physics can show us why. but i think the reason is, because most allergic people are not really allergic (studies showed that half of them just react allergic because they believe they are), so it could be like a placebo effect or something. who knows. the mind can f**k up the body really hard lol
00Kaleidoscope00 3 months ago
@00Kaleidoscope00 Oh yes I agree, a lot of the human illnesses are psychosomatic. But bthe problem is that these "scientific" papers are anything but that. Quantum physics has nothing to do with that. That´s just soemthing that these quacks resort to because it is the "in" thing and very few people actually understand it. Thus giving their "theories" some sense of scientific background, while they are nothing buth hot air.
ebrobaru 3 months ago
If I am condemn to death, I wish they use homeopathic cyanide on me.
Gilroben 3 months ago 31
@Gilroben Or use homeopathic immunization remedies to become immune to CN- ions and force the cells to use oxygen as electron acceptor in cellular respiration despite the presence of cyanide!!!
xXxStellaAquaticaXx 2 months ago
@Gilroben The way they think it works is that if you take homeopathic A then you become immune to A so homeopathic would make you immune to cyanide. But since water is the liquid of life perhaps if they give you homeopathic water it would make you immune to life thereby killing you.
Tamizushi 1 week ago
I've just taken dozens of arsenic homeopathic pills. I'm still fucking alive.
HeilLoki 3 months ago
The next time you go to the grocery store, step into the pharmacy section and grab all the homeopathic medicine. Move all the eyedrops and liquid "medications" to the bottled water section of the grocery store, and pack all the pills between bags of sugar in the baking aisle.
rkyeun 3 months ago
but can't it be a harmless placebo? maybe a bit over priced? but... if they do work, relax.
wallymeldrum 3 months ago
@wallymeldrum
Usually people who take homeopathic "medicine" don't take regular medicine. You know, the ones that have been tested and proven to work.
You really need to see how desperate people can become in order to understand why bullshitters like homeopaths are genuine scum.
Anderasio 3 months ago in playlist More videos from JamesRandiFoundation
People that sell snake oil should be put in jail.
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@FriendOregon Nonsense, just consider it an idiot tax. In fact, start a homeopathic medicine business and donate the proceeds to a worthy cause.
hiota45 3 months ago
@FriendOregon Or in a pit of snakes? Anyone? Anyone?
CriticalThought09 3 months ago
@FriendOregon - Except those that actually sell real snake oil eh! ;-)
TheSpankymonkey 2 months ago
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Thank you so much James Randi for what you do.You are so smart and so reasonable!
CaTPeRsOn888 4 months ago
Thanks James, I'm going to show this to my mum tomorrow. She's a huge proponent of homeopathy and I've been doing my best to make her understand what a scam it is, but she will just not listen and it always ends in an argument. Her defense is that regular medicine kills (just like SexyMelon is saying here), and she really hates doctors. I am running out of ideas on how to make her understand and to stop trying to force me to take the sugar pills. Sometimes even when I have no ailments!
VisionThing 4 months ago
@VisionThing Oh one of those types. A person that has been made afraid of REAL doctors through false facts, rumors and all that kind of thing, and instead goes to bogus medicine, then claims it works. At most it might give a small placebo effect...
Sanquinity 4 months ago
"A 2010 inquiry into the evidence base for homeopathy conducted by the United Kingdom's House of Commons Science and Technology Committee concluded that homeopathy is no more effective than placebo" - owned.
surgeyX 4 months ago
I bet no company has done the challenge yet...
RedKnightm 4 months ago
@RedKnightm
I believe they have -- JREF along with the UK science \ medical council did a double blind study and one company who makes homeopathic "medicines" did the challenge and failed -- I recall reading this somewhere, but I cannot remember where so I could be wrong.
surgeyX 4 months ago
@surgeyX lol funny now i gotta look that up it's gonna be so funny
RedKnightm 4 months ago
I wonder how many years it'll take JREF to actually "challenge" things that matter. Like oh, say, US FDA?..
Did you know prescription drugs now kill more people in the US than road accidents? That majority of over-the-counter anti-depressants are toxic and habit-forming? Is that really the normal state of things? Isn't that a little more harmful than, well, essentially just plain water?
SexyMelon 4 months ago
@SexyMelon - JREF will never attack serious issues. Jewish media control; profit from weapons; the 'Holocaust' fraud; the 'AIDS' fraud; the 9/11 fraud; the Rothschilds and paper money....
Homeopathy is a sort of heresy based on the ideas of vaccination. It's a pathetic error.
rerevisionist 4 months ago
@SexyMelon
You are way off the mark.
Inducing people to take water in preference to that which might actually effect a cure is homicidal.
tellnet 4 months ago
@tellnet I'm talking about "traditional" drugs that harm, hurt, kill and form hard dependencies, on top of which exists massive de-regulation and pharmaceutical fraud. The stranglehold that perfectly legal sham "medicine" puts on unsuspecting victims is much more dire than homeopathy or similar nonsense could ever possibly claim.
It's like warning a cancer patient about dangers of allergy. You may be right, but you're missing the point.
SexyMelon 4 months ago
@SexyMelon I hate to break it to you but your "perfectly legal sham "medicine"" Is, in fact homeopathy. I hope you're not referring to modern pharmaceuticals which actually serve a purpose in your statement.
Homeopathy is a sham and should be banned along with all the other pseudo-science bullshit out there like psychic surgery and faith healing.
KamekoBruns 4 months ago
@KamekoBruns What I'm saying is that whatever harm homeopathy or any other kind of sham medicine may be causing, it is absolutely abysmal compared to what many other medications that don't go by any single umbrella term ("homepathy") can do - and, in many cases, already have done - to unsuspecting ill people, and yet JREF is never seen addressing the issue.
I really don't know how to make myself any clearer.
SexyMelon 4 months ago
@SexyMelon I think using proper words would help make your points clearer. You say that the harm caused by homeopathy is "abysmal compared to" other medications which do not have "umbrella terms", whatever those are.
So if you meant to use the word abysmal then you are right. Homepathy is appallingly bad. No argument there.
But are you referring to pseudo-science like psychic surgery or are you referring to medications like Lipitor which are actually FDA tested and approved?
KamekoBruns 4 months ago
@tellnet @tellnet - I'm not 'way off the mark'. Randi's outfit does not address important issues. It's a form of official media. There are a million more serious issues than homeopathy. And they need more than a third rate conjurer to deal with them.
rerevisionist 2 months ago
@rerevisionist
Anyone (such as yourself) who refers to "the 'Holocaust' fraud; the 'AIDS' fraud; the 9/11 fraud" , and who refers to James Randi as "a third rate conjurer ".... is obviously mentally deranged.
See a psychiatrist.
tellnet 2 months ago 2
@tellnet - Anyone as stupid as you must have psychological issues, since you are unable to read and research for yourself. Almost certainly, you masturbate far too much and abuse children. You are a danger to others as well as yourself.
rerevisionist 2 months ago
@rerevisionist
As previously stated, you need the services of a psychiatrist.
Advertising your ignorance will not solve your obvious mental problems.
tellnet 2 months ago
@tellnet - I see. You're allowed to insult anyone you like, and tell lies about anything you wish, presuambly to make money.
rerevisionist 2 months ago
@rerevisionist
Congratulations.
You are dumb.
You obviously do not get it !
That which you just said describes exactly the position of a sensible rational person towards homeopathy - you however have a different interpretation !
Ha ha.
Hilarious.
And what is "presuambly" ?
tellnet 2 months ago 3
@rerevisionist Psychology, look it up
ebrobaru 2 months ago
@ebrobaru - I don't know if you're English speaking.
rerevisionist 2 months ago
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@rerevisionist What is your point?
ebrobaru 2 months ago
Homeopathy is based on the idea that by diluting a chemical to an extreme degree, you reverse the effect instead of just having no effect. So it's like thinking you can divide 1 by a really really huge positive number and get a NEGATIVE number as the result. So even a middle school student should be able to understand how stupid homeopathy is.
Heathenfidel 4 months ago
I always tell homoeopaths that all water is REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY ... ... REALLY diluted dinosaur sewage. And then remind them that the more diluted it is, the more potent it is. If it just so happens that I have some water on me I'll offer it, or drink it myself.
FHomeBrew 4 months ago
@FHomeBrew The creed of the homeopath:
"Water has memory, and while it's memory of a long lost drop of onion juice seems infinite,
it somehow forgets all the poo it's had in it."
Thank you Tim Minchin
FireDragons42 4 months ago
@FireDragons42
I have his beat poem favourited, it's so awesome.
Quintinohthree 4 months ago
Just to troll homoeopaths, you should call the poison control centre. Give 'em a good laugh ;-)
FHomeBrew 4 months ago
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WHAT IS HIS VIEW ON THE "Tibetan Buddhist Monks - Meditation and Science"
HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT THEY DO on youtube?
TENBLINGABANGA 4 months ago
The same can be said about real paratactical. The placebo works as good if not better than pharmaceuticals also .
innerlocus 4 months ago
@innerlocus but using a placebo as a medical treatment would require patients to be deliberately lied to by their physicians - which most people tend to think is unethical. Informed consent is every patients right.
tomrw54 4 months ago
I took six boxes of sleeping pills, now i'm dead...
vlogsmack 5 months ago
I believe in self-education, not more government oversight by corrupt agencies that have already usurped a lot of rights and freedoms to favor political cronies. Thank you to James Randi for being an educator. In the Age of Information, there is just no excuse for ignorance. The nanny state is a poor replacement for personal responsibility.
sweetcara14 5 months ago
@sweetcara14 we still live in society - not caves. When people arent educated/trained in critical reasoning, they can be vulnerable to those who use pseudoscientific language. In the "Age of Reason", facts can be manipulated. Homeopaths present themselves as Authorities on health and science - people are conditioned to trust the authority of science. Understanding good science from bad isnt easy, even 4 trained people. "Personal responsibility" rhetoric taken too far can result in inustice.
tomrw54 4 months ago
@tomrw54 Good point, but then something like an impartial scientific consumer guide would be the ideal resource, not a corrupt government agency that is anything but impartial, efficient or honest. There are people and groups like James Randi's who are excellent resources for people who are seeking real information. Relying on government to solve all of our problems is clearly not the answer and often results in far greater injustices.
sweetcara14 4 months ago
@sweetcara14 you're probably right. But in my experience it would need to go much further than simply a consumer guide - which in a complicated area such as evidence-based health, can itself me misinterpreted. The concept of "statistically significant" is hard to put into context such that it can be used to inform the fundemental right to informed choice. In my experience, it would need to be an large insitution. Questions are then raised in regards to scrutiny, funding etc and impartiality...
tomrw54 4 months ago
@tomrw54 It is a complicated issue. However, all that the nanny state is doing is making the public more helpless and vulnerable while they fill the coffers for themselves and their cronies by emptying ours. I would err on the side of freedom, because it is morally legitimate. But not many recognize what that is anymore.
sweetcara14 4 months ago
Homeopathy do work. Im sorry for this old man.
grewalmastan 5 months ago
@grewalmastan Not taking anything is almost as effective and is cheaper too.
wstevenschneider 5 months ago
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@grewalmastan I ma sorry for you. You are deluded
ebrobaru 5 months ago
Homeopathic overdose is not real.Just like James Randi says.There is a million dollars waiting on you people out there that just swear by it.A MILLION DOLLARS.Go get it and prove him wrong.You can't and thats why it is just a bunch of bull.Anybody that wants to prove me wrong then go do his test and win the million bucks.
profsat5 5 months ago
Homeopathic medicines can actually be really dangerous, he's lucky he's not diabetic - that much sugar can kill....
LudvigIndestrucable 5 months ago
Actually most homeopathic remedies are intended to be taken under the tongue for about 90 seconds. Downing them like Randi does in his demonstrations is not taking them as directed and unlikely to produce any effect. And who's to say his pills are really homeopathic and not just sugar pills. His demonstrations are crap.
yiranimal 5 months ago
@yiranimal You're right, Randi took too much and too fast. Obviously such a high dosage of active ingredients, being part of a Homeopathic remedy, weakened the remedy's effects.
Mundane remedies such as, you know, medicine, would have had the opposite effects as such high doses even if they had exactly the same active ingredients.
Go figure.
wstevenschneider 5 months ago
@yiranimal You're right, Randi took too much and too fast. Obviously such a high dosage of active ingredients, being part of a Homeopathic remedy weakened the remedy's effects.
Mundane remedies such as, you know, medicine, would have had the opposite effects as such high doses even if they had exactly the same active ingredients.
Go figure.
wstevenschneider 5 months ago
Poor guy.....I am sorry about you..., you have to read and be better informed about what "Quantic" means....
Very narrow mind......
ginaspbrazil 5 months ago
Randi, you're doing your overdose demonstrations wrong. Don't you know how homeopathy works? Taking a whole PACKET of homeopathic sleeping pills is not overdosing, it's UNDERdosing.
To OVERdose on homeopathic pills, you have to swallow just a tiny chip out of a single pill. Duh! ;-)
Seriously, I love you man!
KrisBlueNZ 5 months ago 40
@KrisBlueNZ hahahhaa yeah, i guess that'd be right!
jeaumiew 5 months ago in playlist More videos from JamesRandiFoundation
@KrisBlueNZ OK I just done what you said,I took a tiny chip of a single pill.So now I guess in your mind I just OD.We will see.I will let you know what happens,but we already know whats going to happen-NOTHING.Duh!
profsat5 5 months ago
@profsat5 Right. My comment was facetious. Which means I was joking.
KrisBlueNZ 5 months ago
@KrisBlueNZ I know.Homeopathic pills are the biggest con going right now.Lots of people believe in it.Randi sure is putting on the years now or I guess the years are really showing,one of the two.You have a good day :-)
profsat5 5 months ago
@profsat5 Yeah, well, I hope I look that good when I'm 83 :-)
KrisBlueNZ 5 months ago
@KrisBlueNZ Yeah,ME TOOO.....!
profsat5 5 months ago
@KrisBlueNZ No. To truly overdose, you have to walk past the box and not look at it.
harboy4u 3 months ago
@KrisBlueNZ Randi once wrote in Swift (the JREF's newsletter) that technically everyone is overdosing on homeopathic medicine at all times simply by not taking any.
AdvocatusThei 3 months ago
James Randi is the bomb.
Hereticbooks 5 months ago
Uncle Albert.
xXxCHARG3RxXx 5 months ago
If only the JREF had a challenge for those of us who aren't retarded... I'd sure like a chance to win a million dollars.
jugarnaut40 5 months ago
@amirvega i guess you could say im tolling too lol. its good to see your openmined and able to change your opinion. cheers.
derthensbane 5 months ago
@amirvega i never mentioned an experience, also i have no illiterate condition. lol good one and if your not trolling use some of your masters in molecular bio to explain homeopathy instead only using anecdotal evidence.
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derthensbane 5 months ago
the same people who are taking this medicine are unfortunate. just like the people who still give money to Peter Popoff. A swindler of an evangelist that James Randi exposed decades ago as a complete fraud yet he is to this day still operating and taking money from innocent and ignorant people.
redshiftexperiment 5 months ago
Homeopathy works and that's for sure, though we don't know yet exactly how it works.
There is no reason whatsoever to oppose it to "mainstream" medecine, it is just an element of treatment amongst many others, and all arguments against it may be used against other treatments.
Some say that it is only based on a placebo effect, but placebo is a major factor in any kind of therapy, and homeopathy is used with success by veterinaries...
Above all, it is a minor health issue compared to many others!
KokoroSky2 5 months ago
@KokoroSky2 You did watch Randi swallow 64 homeopathic sleeping pills without any effect whatsoever, right?
syn010110 5 months ago
@syn010110 did you?
lennyf1957 5 months ago
@amirvega Are you trolling? you seem fairly illiterate for someone doing a masters.
derthensbane 5 months ago
Sadly I cannot convince my parents that Homeopathic medicine do not work, they insist that they does :P, I guess thats just something they were raised with, not that they don't go to real doctors, but they do rely on homeopaths sometimes. I think the problem is a lot worse in East, Homeopaths are very popular there..
appleloveTK 5 months ago
You are the best James randi! I love your work and your dedication, I'm from Spain and I think you have a great talent and I'm glad you share it with all of us:)
Fabpinky 5 months ago
Yep! You have to make it yourself.
cortezforever 6 months ago
Sequel to my other post: Clearly all the hocus pocus arount that speaking to the pacient is bullshit but it helps the patient to be conviced to get well. I think the placebo effect shouldn't be underestimated and can only work if it costs money or there is many hocus pocus.
The other side is the industry which forms around such things which sells alot sh**, like Power Balance or this older magnet bracelets which are just embarrassing. But to cut the "usefull" line its difficult.
httpkiller 6 months ago
@88mestari88
The important thin is that it helps people, even when it's "only" the placebo effekt. Many normal drugs only help to damp the symptoms (like aspirin). They didn't heal the pacient. The pacient heals itself from a flu for example. Mostly you didn't get medicine to cure a flu (only in the worst case). You heal yourself. And when you are convinced you get well this works. In the other case it works too, your mind can make you sick. Like stress is an accepted illness.
httpkiller 6 months ago
In my oppinion homeopathy works. And yes it is because of the placebo effect, but that applys to many "normal" drugs too. Since the body can heal itself and it helps when the patient is convinced he will get well.
Even those "healers" you can put in this category. They practice something the normal doctors can't give their pacients anymore. They hear what the pacient has to say and response to them. There are many psychological effects in the healing process and i helps a lot.
httpkiller 6 months ago
Oxymoron ----> homeopathic medicine
twistedH3L1X 6 months ago
Where can I find an article or video of someone that has actually analyzed one of these pills to find out what the content is?
Discern4 6 months ago
Amen, preach it James Randi! Thank you for fighting against this garbage in the spirit of Carl Sagan.
Discern4 6 months ago
ALLAHU AKBAR!
MrMantura 6 months ago
i tried the trick with oxicodone and jviiiibkvgl fnlova etym hsdffssssjrayhjkyktyjjarfggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
negasplenetic 7 months ago
Good video, although it's a little annoying that when you spoke of people being ripped off by this scam, you focused on parents and children, as if they're the only ones being ripped off.
autumnsylver 7 months ago
i want to meet this guy, he's sooooo cool!!!!!
jinjanco23 7 months ago
Makes you wonder why the £1000000 is still unclaimed doesn't it...
hurbyfatboy666 7 months ago
@hurbyfatboy666 Probably because the evil atheist conspiracy is working with satan to distort the testing results. That can be the only explanation surely?
leftwingextremist 6 months ago
Looking good Mr Randi
Live forever
christoph2005 7 months ago
Does anybody know if a scientific study has been done on Young Living Essential Oils? It seems like a total scam...
MissThinkabunch 7 months ago
@amirvega just because something is "natural" doesn't make it safe or "good". there a many types of mushrooms that are deadly and poisonous but they are natural. i don't believe you have a college degree let alone a MASTERS in molecular biology because you sound like a dumbass. i can go on youtube and say i have doctorate in medicine too. see?
TheyCallMeWendy 7 months ago
Yes, I agree. And all too true.
Rioarri, Pharm. D.
Rioarri 7 months ago
one wonders if they even bother diluting anything anymore, its probably just empty pills and plain water right from the go. and even if it had some molecules its less than a drop in the ocean, you can drink such solutions with poison in them instead of regular water for the rest of your life and experience nothing.
neurel111 7 months ago
Mr. James Randi...do you have a better, alternate, safer way to cause the placebo effect? That is the whole point of homeopathy. it does work, doesnt it?
ianero5olitario 7 months ago
@ianero5olitario A safer way? How about this... Tell people tap water cures disease and somehow convience them to believe it. Water from your own water tap is still cheaper than the tap water that is sold as homeopathic medicine.
byteresistor 7 months ago
@byteresistor
Dont you see? To convince people as you suggest that tap water can cure disease would cost much more than homeopathy. I'm nos saying its a good thing, or the best way to spend your health money, I am saying it works in many cases, and it is considerably cheaper and less invasive than alopathy.
"Modern medicine" has a long story of abuse and seldom places the patient before the money.
ianero5olitario 7 months ago
@ianero5olitario Your "logic" has one major flaw in it: a placebo effect does not work with everything. Such as cancer etc.
byteresistor 7 months ago
@byteresistor My "logic" works better than your reading, apparently: Please note my post "I´m nos (not) saying it´s a good thing, or the best way to spend your health money, I AM SAYING IT WORKS IN MANY CASES, and it is considerably cheaper and less invasive..."
At which point did you read "it cures everything including cancer"???
ianero5olitario 7 months ago
@ianero5olitario True, "it works in some cases" - that's the nature of the placebo effect. Besides, some illnesses like ear infections last around a week, medicine or no. You think the drug/placebo cured you? Your body did the job anyway. Problem is, someone is getting filthy rich off of homeopathy. Personally I'm not okay with that and shrugging it of as "what's the harm?" is exactly why scammers can operate as they do. Apathy is the con artists' best friend.
theoldbat40 7 months ago
@theoldbat40 My grandmother used to pray a lot, particulalry on her last years. Did it made any difference in the lives of her loved ones? Maybe a bit, for it made her life much more easy and pleasurable, her own self telling her that all her praying wouldgetmea better job and a good wife. Of course it was just a fantasy, but fantasy can get you places. That is my point: homeopathy has done damage? Alopathy has too. Tricking ourselves into health has a certain value.
ianero5olitario 7 months ago
@ianero5olitario I get that placebo effects are good for some things. The problem is when you take your sick child (who can't decide for themselves) and have them "treated" with water, denied vaccines and so on. A baby can't be fooled into thinking he's better by taking water. His pain's not gonna go away by his mother's fantasy. So while I do see your point, I still think this sort of fantasy is hurtful to us all in the long run. I refuse to support their scam financially or by not speaking up.
theoldbat40 7 months ago
@ianero5olitario It does harm if needed medicine is not taken because of it
ebrobaru 7 months ago
@ebrobaru Sure it does. Same as a lot of other things, for instance, taking the wrong medication by a misdiagnosis. Once again, Im not selling homeopathy, all Im trying to put in the table is that alopathy is not a good solution either.
Have you guys ever heard of natural medicine? tea, herbes, ancestral treatments. It does not cure cancer either, but it does has a much better effect on human body than afrin.
Is someone making a lot of money on homeopathy? Jail him. What about Pfeizer? worse
ianero5olitario 7 months ago
@ianero5olitario Yes natural medicine is very effective. You should know that 99% of the alopathic medicine comes from natural ingredients. Of course alopathy is a great business. Nobody denies that. But the thing is that it works unlike the sham that is homeopathy
ebrobaru 7 months ago
@ebrobaru Do you know how many living species of plants have a patent? You do not see how little alopathy cares for people? Have you never heard of the terrible consecuences of "modern medicine" has had in its history. Once again I am not substituting one for the other, I am just saying, if you want to demonize one, be fair and look at both wreckages.
ianero5olitario 7 months ago
@ianero5olitario Now you sound like the typical conspirationalist of "big pharma". Of course alopathic medicine is a big business, but that doesn´t mean it desn´t work. If it weren´t for "modern medicine" as you call it, life expectancy worldwide would still be in the 30s.
ebrobaru 7 months ago
@ebrobaru Yeah. Go modern medicine and science!
Where did I say alopathy did not work? Where did I espressed homeopathy or herbes are the only way to health? Matteroffactly, I believe the big pharma is a dirty business, a blood bathed business. You can call me a conspiracytheorist all you want, I wont take that as an insult.Homeopathy is not our worst health problem, nor our shamest scam. Which is not the same as saying homeopathy is what we should all go for.
ianero5olitario 7 months ago
@ianero5olitario If it weren´t for science, you wouldn´t be posting on this very site. Homeopathy business is worth millions worldwide every year. So I´d say that yes, it is our worst health problem. Maybe big pharma is a dirty business. But the thing is that it works, more often than not
ebrobaru 7 months ago
@ebrobaru Oh. Did you think I was being sarcastic about modern science?
Let me understand, you are arguing FOR alopathy and then you wrote FOR homeopathy?? "yup i have a homeopathic doctor and he treated my problem so dont listen to these pricks please please i am telling you .."
ianero5olitario 7 months ago
@ianero5olitario I didn´t agrue for homeopathy. I simply stated that it is a multimillion dollar industry. So, yes I think it is our worst health problem.
ebrobaru 7 months ago
@ianero5olitario "allopathy" is a term only used by homeopaths, much like how creationists use "macro/micro-evolution" and fundamentalists use "pro-abortion" etc. It kinda kills your credibility to use made-up terminology.
Kerberoz01 6 months ago
@Kerberoz01 Thank you for making me look into it. I disagree about it being a made up term. And I think I do not have any credibility to start with, since everyone that has adressed my comments argues as if I wanted everyone to become homeopathic clients.
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medterms.com
ianero5olitario 6 months ago
@theoldbat40 I think that for some reason I can´t get my point across. I do not advocate for homeopathy. I do not have, and will not say that it is ok that someone scams any other person.
What I keep saying is that precisely for the placebo effect, homeopathy is a very useful tool.I repeat: It does not make it the best human answer to disease. But why deny that we have that thing that makes us feel better just by telling ouselves we are doing something about it. Let me use an analogy:
ianero5olitario 7 months ago
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@theoldbat40 sorry, you need to read my posts in reverse for them to make sense -I hope.
ianero5olitario 7 months ago
"no more affect than pure water" lol
8bobthebuilder 8 months ago
@amirvega To prove it to me or anybody else for that matter, you should provide any studies proving it works of peer reviewed scientists and not homeopathy magazines or peddlers. Otherwise then it just becomes anecdotical evidence and that cannot construe proof. Yes, medicines are a bib big business, and yes, mafias do indeed control it. But that doesn´t mean that they don´t work, and even less, that homeopathy does work
ebrobaru 8 months ago
@amirvega No thanks, when I catch a cold, I would take the medicine that I have always taken since being a kid and that has worked fine for me. It´s good that you feel better after two weeks, but have you ever heard of placebo effect? Yes, these remedies, not medicines, have no side effects. But they have no effects either because, not because of having natural ingredients, but because the infinitesimal dilutions tehy have and that are the principle of homeopathy
ebrobaru 8 months ago
@amirvega I see that you have impressive qualifications. I never said implied that you were stupid. However since you have a degree in molecular biology, then you, better than anybody, can understand that the principles of homeopathy are based in nonsense. No matter how natural are the components of something if those components are zero. It doesn´t matter if Randi is close minded or not. What matters are the facts.
ebrobaru 8 months ago 24
@amirvega No, he is the reason why there are more and more people that are learning to use their brains before falling into scams like these. It doesn´t matter if you are close minded or not. The thing is if something works or not
ebrobaru 8 months ago
@amirvega Yeah, a lawyer that is famous for being a nut case and nothing reliable. The big hoax is people like you claiming to still believe in fairies and conning people for big money.
ebrobaru 8 months ago
I have to disagree with Randi on this one. I had gallbladder disease for yrs and was misdiagnosed. The pain is unbelievable, nothing touches it. I was introduced to Nux
Vomica 30c and started taking that when I would have an attack. It worked so well I went 7 yrs misdiagnosed and 26 stones later in my main bile duct. So it did work and probably delayed my diagnosis and treatment. If I didn't take the Nux Vomica I might have been diagnosed sooner. I agree to disagree!
Raspbrryswirl 8 months ago
i get how its made, i get its a sugar pill, and i get you cant overdose on it, but will someone tell me why when i take the homeopathic "drug" oscillococcinum i get over a cold or flu in about 24 hours every time? the other 10 or so i tried did nothing at all but oscillococcinum for one reason or another works great.
TheJosephlevine 8 months ago
first randy you have to take homoeopathy medicine ,i think u have some problem ..YOU ARE A PHARMACEUTICAL FOOL.....WORD U SAID NOT YOURS ...YOU LIKE A FOX......
aneesh753 8 months ago
Does this mean the 1 000 000 $ price still active?
kasuskasus 8 months ago
the absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence....
N7warden 8 months ago
most medical "scientific" study's are false and paid for by big pharma l