@presbarkeep Their jackets register hits electronically. The wire is part of the scoring system. They're actually not much of an issue to the fencer, though. They don't pull by any noticeable amount.
@CameraMan4000 A bit late to answer but still, :p I guess they might be dueling for who goes to the final, seeing as there was an italian finishing second as well.
2:49-2:57 That is a very gentlemanly way to react to defeating your opponent. What a class act that guy was :P The Chinese guy is thinking "3rd place? Well, I'm going to be executed in public square."
@Tippet76 What, you wouldn't be happy if you just pulled won the final match of a tournament? The winners scream in plenty of sports, and especially in fencing.
@Selryam616 I would be happy but I would still be respectful. Bill Belichick, coaches the Patriots into winning the Superbowl, the first time that the Pats have won a superbowl in franchise history, and he puts his arms up; that's it. Tom Brady walks over and shakes the opposing qb and coaches hand without even a smile on his face. That's being a gentleman. Jumping up and down screaming like a six year old is not respectful to the his opponent, the sport, or himself.
@Tippet76 yes, but the coach was not totally exhausted and the actual winner of the super bowl. as you should be able to see, in fencing, setting your touch up and executing it properly is very rewarding and can be awarded with a scream.
I would have to say in my fencing experience, foil is the most difficult of the three weapons to compete in, especially if you're tall and your opponent shorter than 5'3" and weighs less than 120 lbs.
KarlTheStampede that may be true x other sports like baseball or hockey or NFL , but it ' s just the opposite in fencing due to its innate complexity of play movements , difficulty of judging them and inner conflicts between most powerful countries inside world federation.
Having a bad or a good judge many times marks the difference
@RaineSageFan you can if the blade breaks and goes through, a russian was killed in the 70s that way. foil and epee are not that bad, but sabre seems to have more gruesome injuries (or at least thats the stories that i have heard from my coach, perhaps there are others hes not telling me?)
It's called pistol grip. It allows easier manipulation with the pinky and ring finger, the downside being that you can no longer pommel effectively (extend your reach by holding further down the handle). There are other variations, but I may have heard somewhere that at this level all competitors must use the pistol grip [Citation Needed].
in foil most people now use a pistol grip because its just alot better, but not in epee or sabre. othe grips like french or italian are kinda lame.....
Foil is by far the most telegenic of the weapons. I know the networks only show sabre because that is the only weapon in which the USA is competitive, but in my opinion sabre is only fun to watch for an expert. Foil is beautiful, even for one unfamiliar with it.
This was really good. Awesome how Joppich knew Baldini was going to counter-attack again, and changed his attack to a pare riposte. The tension was just building up as the score hit 14-14. Great match!
i started fencing three months ago now and i still suck but it is so much fun! strangely though this is the only thing i use my left hand for. go figure.
Can someone tell me why don't these Olympic fencers have their rear arm up? My coach always forces me to have my rear arm up, then we he coaches the good fencers, he lets them have their arms down, why don't they need their arms up?
Simply because the good fencers are already trained to have their hand out of the way, they've completely broken the instinct to block with their free hand. Forcing new fencers to keep their off hand high and out of the way is the best way to quickly break that habit.
@Rmasta6969 That maybe be a good way, but if the fencer becomes a comp fencer then it will be a bad habit, as it is a yellow card to hold on to your body cord, or the wire during the bout.
@Rmasta6969 i find that when a beginner comes to the club they always put their hand infront their target, the way i deal with it is a nice flick on the hand, sounds harsh but it works, they never do it again
@illnino98 What worked for me way back in the early '70s was to touch the back of my mask, the spring loaded, bent "diving board." The contact let me know that it was up where it needed to be and I just practiced at flinging it out when I lunged in practice to target. I also always thought that people who first take Eastern marshall arts classes or training before beginning in fencing have a real tendancy and problem with not using their hands and arms to parry.
@lew00t I've always had a problem with that. I've kept my hand high form the first time I ever fenced, but I still occasionally move it in front of me without even realizing it.
Pistol grip is good, the only problem though is that it's lighter in the back due to the smaller pommel than your average french hilt, and therefore requires more tip control.
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its actually 3 minutes each MATCH. but if you're talking bout rounds, yeah around there. they're not gonna stand there and well move around, they're fast, this aint some kinda movie.
That's true; but this is what the sport has evolved to, basically just trying to get points, doesn't matter if you yourself get in in the process, just as long as you had priority or hit first. Which, in my opinion, is a discredit to the art of fencing.
Although their speed is very impressive, it's a far cry from what fencing originally was like.
well... I hope you're being sarcastic, but these are just the highlights. And a match maximun time is like 9 minutes, plus a minute 30 seconds. and another 3 minutes overtime if the event arises for sudden death. And team matches go on 9x that amount. haha! They can go by faster if one of the fencers makes 15 pts before the time runs out. :P
It's "PRÊTS? - Allez!" - By the way: Joppich totally kicks ass, his tempo is the very best I've ever seen, and he's got a divine hand. Maybe that's why he became World Champion twice... ;-)
ok im bout 15 and do u think its too late to start taking begining lesson?????? because im worried i'll be in a 16 yearold class and find im the only one that sux or is just startin... plz give me some advice
Sucking at first is all part of joining, you'll improve vastly if you just go for lessons and people should criticize you. That would be impolite and fencing is very polite. Go for it.
haha this is great i just watched saber fencing a couple of minutes ago and its damn boring. Dont get me wrong it takes skills and fast reflex in order to get the point. But its still boring. now this..i finally see some parrying and deflecting..much better!! sword manipulation...
Hey,i hope your match went well, i still remember the match even though it was some time ago against Lancaster University. I prefer Foil because you have to work to get a point and its pretty fast. With sabre its a bit like something out of pirates of the carribean lol, and i have never liked Epee anyway, cos anywhere goes on that so its a bit more slower because it is riskier.
Shit, I was actually there to see this in person! I remember these bouts... Not surprised that Joppich won, and I'm glad too cause Baldini turned out to be dope fiend....
Its kinda complex, but basically its all to do with the extension of the arm. If a fencer is extending his arm in a threatening way he is considered to have right of way. The only ways to lose right of way is to get the hit, or if their attack is parried or falls short, this means the other fencer can riposte which gives them the right of way.
It doesn't all have to do with the extension of the arm. its who ever initiates the attack, extending your arm helps show you are starting the attack.
Yes, (I wasn't mad at you, it was the others) but Ive had conversations with a few people on this topic (far more experienced than I) but that rule is still not to specific, you could be extending your non-weapon arm (as a funny example).Anyways,I thought you meant priority had everything to do with the arm (i misinterpreted what you were saying),in the end I think we both agree.
well a flick is more often used as a counterattack or a riposte(after circ parry)rather than a straightforward attack. oh n its much harder to flick with a french grip foil. those thigns are really uncommon nowadays haha=)
very true. plus, i think joppich is a little... arrogant. But I like his parry riposte. I hope to fence him one day. Just to experience. I am going to fence in a Cat A competition soon, even though I am Junior i would still love to fence some categrory A fencers, I'll most likely be fencing Korea's Nat'l Seniors. scary fast guys
I personally like Baldini because he is left handed, but Joppich inevitably beats him pretty much all the time. Baldini caught up because he fixed his form and could've won but it was already to late for him to make his recovery. Baldini's balance looks off in some of his bouts, he leans his body weight forward too much, loses his centre of gravity. Hey, he is a great fencer so don't get me wrong haha.
It has very little to do with who hit who first. What the referee is looking for is what's called "Right-of-way", which, very basically, means who rightfully has offense.
Yeah, basically right, they're aiming for the torso, the bit which has the silver-ish jacket over it. If a red light comes up it means the guy to our right has hit, green light means the guy to our left. A white light means they've hit, but not on the torso area, so it's either arm, leg, head or floor
HEY!!! im new ok, and im proud of myself right now, I just got a few points on this fencer I go to school with, after he beat 2 teachers, 2 students and recently got 1st in a fencing tournament. even he was impressed, but yah I just switched to a pistol grip.
Stop bickering about the grips, people. It's a matter of personal preference. Personally, I use a pistol grip(Belgian, to be precise), but that was my choice.
One downside to the pistol grip is that it focuses more of the control on the wrist rather than the fingers, like a French grip. On the other hand, I think the problem people have with the French grip is that too many fencers (especially beginners) hold it like a stick and fence accordingly.
It's not a hard sport. You can improve quickly and it's a lot of fun. Anybody can be good, it's not something that you have to just have a talent for.
Great fencers. Truly amazing to watch. I take issue with Joppich's cockiness, but hey, he's an Olympic Gold Medalist. I started in a club that was all about honor and simply acknowledging a touch with a smile and a "good shot". So watching some fencers who will prance around the strip like they own the world after getting a point sometimes puts me off. All in all, though, these guys are amazing.
I honestly don't see anything wrong with em. They aren't supposed to be costumes, and they aren't supposed to be NFL uniforms either. They suit the purpose of the sport quite well. If it isn't broken, don't try to fix it, right?
There is too a french fencer he was olympic champion when he was 180r 20 het name was something like guar.... does anybody know him and P.joppic is the best
The0Hippy, I'm not against you in any way, but I'd like to point out that you have absolutely NO right whatsoever to try and ridicule these guys' fencing. Of course, yeah, they make one or two mistakes; we all do ocassionally. But these are olympic fencers. Where are you? Certainly not fencing in the olympics. I'm sure we'd ALL lose to them very quickly, even despite them using 'too much arm motion'. (Though in my opinion, they don't.)
EXTRAORDINARIO, he visto esta serie muchas veces, en mi pais PERU en sudamerica, los niños entrenan mucho para que un dia esten en este nivel de competicion, gracias a estos deportistas que son un ejemplo de esfuerzo y tenacidad.
@Tippet76 sportsmanships for losers, if you tell someone to stop celebrating youre just a buzzkill
Zon3d0ut 3 days ago
gosh when you get to this high level the blades look like long liquorice sticks flopping all over the place
xNecroKey 1 month ago
greatest final ever
iamheimong 1 month ago
whats the wire attached to their waiste
presbarkeep 8 months ago
@presbarkeep Their jackets register hits electronically. The wire is part of the scoring system. They're actually not much of an issue to the fencer, though. They don't pull by any noticeable amount.
MagicActor1987 6 months ago
can some one tell me why 2 Italian are fencing each other at :59
CameraMan4000 1 year ago
@CameraMan4000 A bit late to answer but still, :p I guess they might be dueling for who goes to the final, seeing as there was an italian finishing second as well.
maje0101 10 months ago
@CameraMan4000 Read the title: INDIVIDUAL
jullila 8 months ago
2:49-2:57 That is a very gentlemanly way to react to defeating your opponent. What a class act that guy was :P The Chinese guy is thinking "3rd place? Well, I'm going to be executed in public square."
Tippet76 1 year ago 2
@Tippet76 What, you wouldn't be happy if you just pulled won the final match of a tournament? The winners scream in plenty of sports, and especially in fencing.
Selryam616 1 year ago
@Selryam616 I would be happy but I would still be respectful. Bill Belichick, coaches the Patriots into winning the Superbowl, the first time that the Pats have won a superbowl in franchise history, and he puts his arms up; that's it. Tom Brady walks over and shakes the opposing qb and coaches hand without even a smile on his face. That's being a gentleman. Jumping up and down screaming like a six year old is not respectful to the his opponent, the sport, or himself.
Tippet76 1 year ago
@Tippet76 yes, but the coach was not totally exhausted and the actual winner of the super bowl. as you should be able to see, in fencing, setting your touch up and executing it properly is very rewarding and can be awarded with a scream.
flickeringlamppost 11 months ago
2:49-2:57 That is a very gentlemanly way to react to defeating your opponent. What a class act that guy was :P
Tippet76 1 year ago
Haha I HATE fencing lefties.
drpwninator 1 year ago 2
Bloody lefties !! :D
everclear21 1 year ago
@everclear21 haha indeed. .:D
TobiasAlvin94 1 year ago
I would have to say in my fencing experience, foil is the most difficult of the three weapons to compete in, especially if you're tall and your opponent shorter than 5'3" and weighs less than 120 lbs.
MacDragard 1 year ago
There's nothing worse than being in a club where there isn't a SINGLE leftie and then fighting them in competitions ;_; Confusing !
everclear21 1 year ago
I just started fencing today, for the first time, and I have to say, It's a lot of fun, I really like it ^^
kittycat5261 1 year ago 6
damn it flick
yihd 1 year ago
Joppich was acting like a dick throughout this tournament.
PissedFechtmeister 1 year ago
KarlTheStampede that may be true x other sports like baseball or hockey or NFL , but it ' s just the opposite in fencing due to its innate complexity of play movements , difficulty of judging them and inner conflicts between most powerful countries inside world federation.
Having a bad or a good judge many times marks the difference
Trulyloyale 1 year ago
can you kill somebody with those swords?
TheNewRiflemanBob 1 year ago
@TheNewRiflemanBob is that the only reason y you r watchin this video. woow
Rmasta6969 1 year ago
@TheNewRiflemanBob no they have blunrt tips
RaineSageFan 1 year ago
@RaineSageFan you can if the blade breaks and goes through, a russian was killed in the 70s that way. foil and epee are not that bad, but sabre seems to have more gruesome injuries (or at least thats the stories that i have heard from my coach, perhaps there are others hes not telling me?)
Tehosennake 1 year ago
@TheNewRiflemanBob Technically yes, but it would be pretty difficult, since they aren't sharp or anything.
lentilofhope 1 year ago
I dont study fencing but was wondering, Why is the grip so strange on the sword handles. is it not a conventional sword handle?
hoban866 2 years ago
It's called pistol grip. It allows easier manipulation with the pinky and ring finger, the downside being that you can no longer pommel effectively (extend your reach by holding further down the handle). There are other variations, but I may have heard somewhere that at this level all competitors must use the pistol grip [Citation Needed].
DanTheManRIP 1 year ago
some fencers prefer to use a more orthopaedic handle or 'pistol grip' as opposed to the traditional French grip handle :)
cmwilliams8 1 year ago
@hoban866 pistols grips have more range of movement with the wrist.
barneymilk2k5 1 year ago
in foil most people now use a pistol grip because its just alot better, but not in epee or sabre. othe grips like french or italian are kinda lame.....
dallyghost 1 year ago
Foil is by far the most telegenic of the weapons. I know the networks only show sabre because that is the only weapon in which the USA is competitive, but in my opinion sabre is only fun to watch for an expert. Foil is beautiful, even for one unfamiliar with it.
tamerlanenj 2 years ago
This was really good. Awesome how Joppich knew Baldini was going to counter-attack again, and changed his attack to a pare riposte. The tension was just building up as the score hit 14-14. Great match!
WrightWindWrath 2 years ago
who's the german guy in the first bout?
OJfoos 2 years ago
joppich
CSjuggling 2 years ago
i started fencing three months ago now and i still suck but it is so much fun! strangely though this is the only thing i use my left hand for. go figure.
TheDragonflyWing 2 years ago 2
eh. foil is cool. i do epee, i think its a lot more fun. started with sabre, switched to epee and i love it.
CSjuggling 2 years ago
Go Lefties!!
wavewalker57 2 years ago 9
Yee, i just started fencing. I'm a lefty. I'm pretty sure that the righty beginners will have a tough time with me.
jBurhan23 2 years ago
@wavewalker57 yes , left handers are always really tough fighters:D
markfencingman 1 year ago
@wavewalker57 YES! FEAR US!! lol
stewy1897 3 months ago
@ yihd
probably to teach you to keep it out of the way, or to get you into the habbit of doing so, I went thro the same thing ^-^
Ashiya223 2 years ago
is it sudden death type of mattch ? like 1 point victory?
Vendetta5246 2 years ago
they only showed the last touch
cdavistwo 2 years ago
No, they're just showing the highlights of each match.
johhnyturbo 2 years ago
Can someone tell me why don't these Olympic fencers have their rear arm up? My coach always forces me to have my rear arm up, then we he coaches the good fencers, he lets them have their arms down, why don't they need their arms up?
yihd 2 years ago
Simply because the good fencers are already trained to have their hand out of the way, they've completely broken the instinct to block with their free hand. Forcing new fencers to keep their off hand high and out of the way is the best way to quickly break that habit.
lew00t 2 years ago 15
Ohh, Completely makes sense!. Thanks!
yihd 2 years ago
wen i started fencing to break my habit of using my other hand to block i would just hold on to the wire
Rmasta6969 1 year ago
@Rmasta6969 That maybe be a good way, but if the fencer becomes a comp fencer then it will be a bad habit, as it is a yellow card to hold on to your body cord, or the wire during the bout.
SportsANDmusic11 1 year ago
@Rmasta6969 i find that when a beginner comes to the club they always put their hand infront their target, the way i deal with it is a nice flick on the hand, sounds harsh but it works, they never do it again
illnino98 1 year ago 2
@illnino98 What worked for me way back in the early '70s was to touch the back of my mask, the spring loaded, bent "diving board." The contact let me know that it was up where it needed to be and I just practiced at flinging it out when I lunged in practice to target. I also always thought that people who first take Eastern marshall arts classes or training before beginning in fencing have a real tendancy and problem with not using their hands and arms to parry.
deaddoc 1 year ago
@lew00t Good advice :)
SirBurstify 4 weeks ago
@lew00t I've always had a problem with that. I've kept my hand high form the first time I ever fenced, but I still occasionally move it in front of me without even realizing it.
BubbaHoggit 1 week ago
also having the back hand and movingit with the lunge forces your upper body to keep itself straight. High level fencers have the balance not to.
gamdriing 2 years ago
it's as my coach always said
"having a bad judge is not an excuse; just get 1-light touches"
KarlTheStampede 2 years ago
hah! that is what my coach says too. =D
Nicaud92 2 years ago
I am not saying this does not take incredible skill and reflexes. . .but damn it just does not look as cool as a sword fight should :(
Beakerr0 2 years ago
Whenever i do a thrusting weapon i use a pistol grip. I like the control that it gives you over a french grip.
KarlTheStampede 2 years ago
Pistol grip is good, the only problem though is that it's lighter in the back due to the smaller pommel than your average french hilt, and therefore requires more tip control.
hatsumora6 2 years ago
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skaterchic1112 2 years ago
sport looks so mild, the actual sword fighting lasts like 30sec
so anybody really can do it
hackingtime88 2 years ago
lol sure, you could fight these guys. You would just lose every single time :P
portal1337 2 years ago
i thought fencing would last longer, like in James bond or zorro
not 30 sec matches
hackingtime88 2 years ago
its actually 3 minutes each MATCH. but if you're talking bout rounds, yeah around there. they're not gonna stand there and well move around, they're fast, this aint some kinda movie.
yihd 2 years ago
That's true; but this is what the sport has evolved to, basically just trying to get points, doesn't matter if you yourself get in in the process, just as long as you had priority or hit first. Which, in my opinion, is a discredit to the art of fencing.
Although their speed is very impressive, it's a far cry from what fencing originally was like.
toxotos 2 years ago
well... I hope you're being sarcastic, but these are just the highlights. And a match maximun time is like 9 minutes, plus a minute 30 seconds. and another 3 minutes overtime if the event arises for sudden death. And team matches go on 9x that amount. haha! They can go by faster if one of the fencers makes 15 pts before the time runs out. :P
Nicaud92 2 years ago
It's "PRÊTS? - Allez!" - By the way: Joppich totally kicks ass, his tempo is the very best I've ever seen, and he's got a divine hand. Maybe that's why he became World Champion twice... ;-)
TubeRonKet 2 years ago
Three times :P
As well as Torino he won in 2003 in Havana and in 2007 in St Petersburg.
Voiv 2 years ago
Its not On Gaurd, its En Garde
SilverHawke0007 2 years ago
"Raise your guard!
Ready?
Go!"
portal1337 2 years ago
erm wat is the command after "on guard"?
YTR0009 2 years ago
I think he is saying "pret" which means ready... like the movie, pret a porte, ready to wear.
bryskyboi 2 years ago
En garde, prêt, allez...
fencingfun 2 years ago
i started fencin 1 year ago an im in the british youth championships
go for it
ybtg 3 years ago
ok im bout 15 and do u think its too late to start taking begining lesson?????? because im worried i'll be in a 16 yearold class and find im the only one that sux or is just startin... plz give me some advice
bubblebaby6 3 years ago
Sucking at first is all part of joining, you'll improve vastly if you just go for lessons and people should criticize you. That would be impolite and fencing is very polite. Go for it.
ILOVESPEED25 3 years ago
thx! for the advice... i started takin classes and its rlly fun! and actalluly they said i was pretty good! so thx!!!
bubblebaby6 3 years ago
Yeah, good. As long as you continue you'll probably do quite well. Stick with it and it will pay off. Good luck.
ILOVESPEED25 3 years ago
I like foil an epee; pistol grip and hav any ov u tried the new Skins? their friggin awesome.
sktorm 3 years ago
woah, the italian who got
silver is pretty fineeee
ohactress 3 years ago
haha this is great i just watched saber fencing a couple of minutes ago and its damn boring. Dont get me wrong it takes skills and fast reflex in order to get the point. But its still boring. now this..i finally see some parrying and deflecting..much better!! sword manipulation...
ShuyuKoukin 3 years ago
oye ese video le encanto a mi hijo el entrena eso
soniaelw 3 years ago
fencing is pretty aosome sport
USSRRussianPower 3 years ago 3
YES IT IS!!! I had a fencing match today, and did Sabre, Foil and Epee, but i prefer Foil
ares12790 3 years ago
Nice! Hope you did well. :) I have one tomorrow.. first of the season. sabre and foil... im a bit nervous! haha
marycolettaburns 3 years ago
Hey,i hope your match went well, i still remember the match even though it was some time ago against Lancaster University. I prefer Foil because you have to work to get a point and its pretty fast. With sabre its a bit like something out of pirates of the carribean lol, and i have never liked Epee anyway, cos anywhere goes on that so its a bit more slower because it is riskier.
ares12790 3 years ago
I have matches everyday like 4 or 5 matches, practice only, of 15 points each one...
And official matches like every month, it's kinda exhausting lol :P
Blad0506 3 years ago
The current consensus is that Baldini's drinks were spiked or otherwise modified. Additionally, the only drug present was a diuretic.
Goatuheim 3 years ago
Shit, I was actually there to see this in person! I remember these bouts... Not surprised that Joppich won, and I'm glad too cause Baldini turned out to be dope fiend....
cu45giddy 3 years ago
i just started fencing i have no clue what is happening. is there like a website where i can read about it or a video? please help me haha
njboi94 3 years ago
do u mean that u want to watch a fencing training video?
sabrefilms 3 years ago
yea sure
njboi94 3 years ago
Wow, clearly no one commenting on this video has any real fencing experience.
"what does the "right of way" rule mean "
"i find the pistol grip the best for defense and offensive "
haha
wellnomaybe 3 years ago
apparently you do though.
BAHAHAHAHAHA
forSPARTAz 3 years ago
not quite
wellnomaybe 3 years ago
i have that fencing movie
fencerboy3890 3 years ago
Lol at the touch @ 2 minutes
cdavisfour 3 years ago
lol first touch (rizzaped)
cdavisfour 3 years ago
Baldini is the best
honestly joppicch is such a pile underneath
superior Baldini's technic .
Once on a while you have to leave some
competitions to somebody else .... :)
Trulyloyale 3 years ago
This is so awesome....fencing is the best sport!
sabrefilms 3 years ago
Awesome! Fencing is the best sport! I fence foil...
walrustusk13 3 years ago
GO BALDINI!
walrustusk13 3 years ago
what does the "right of way" rule mean
mhwolves 3 years ago
Its kinda complex, but basically its all to do with the extension of the arm. If a fencer is extending his arm in a threatening way he is considered to have right of way. The only ways to lose right of way is to get the hit, or if their attack is parried or falls short, this means the other fencer can riposte which gives them the right of way.
Voiv 3 years ago
thanks that really helpful
mhwolves 3 years ago
It doesn't all have to do with the extension of the arm. its who ever initiates the attack, extending your arm helps show you are starting the attack.
wellnomaybe 3 years ago
"The attack is the initial offensive action made by extending the
arm and continuously threatening the opponent's target, preceding
the launching of the lunge or flèche (cf. t.56ss, t.75ss)."
Taken from the FIE rule book
Voiv 3 years ago
Just to clarify that, priority is gained by initiating the attack yes, but the definition of initiating the attack is the extension of the arm
Voiv 3 years ago
Yes, (I wasn't mad at you, it was the others) but Ive had conversations with a few people on this topic (far more experienced than I) but that rule is still not to specific, you could be extending your non-weapon arm (as a funny example).Anyways,I thought you meant priority had everything to do with the arm (i misinterpreted what you were saying),in the end I think we both agree.
wellnomaybe 3 years ago
well a flick is more often used as a counterattack or a riposte(after circ parry)rather than a straightforward attack. oh n its much harder to flick with a french grip foil. those thigns are really uncommon nowadays haha=)
turkeymeister 3 years ago
I still respect Baldini very much even though he lost this. he just has a certain "umphh" in him.
fuuinno 3 years ago 2
very true. plus, i think joppich is a little... arrogant. But I like his parry riposte. I hope to fence him one day. Just to experience. I am going to fence in a Cat A competition soon, even though I am Junior i would still love to fence some categrory A fencers, I'll most likely be fencing Korea's Nat'l Seniors. scary fast guys
Nicaud92 3 years ago
I personally like Baldini because he is left handed, but Joppich inevitably beats him pretty much all the time. Baldini caught up because he fixed his form and could've won but it was already to late for him to make his recovery. Baldini's balance looks off in some of his bouts, he leans his body weight forward too much, loses his centre of gravity. Hey, he is a great fencer so don't get me wrong haha.
Nicaud92 3 years ago
totaly wikked
BigMoneyNichols 3 years ago
you can counter a right of way with a perry.... where you hit the other persons weapon and repost (lunge)
blueghostsyl 3 years ago
A beat attack.
jemba112 3 years ago
no thats when you start the action
blueghostsyl 3 years ago
life is like a fencing bout. be prepared for anything, and react accordingly without hesitation.
coyotewolfscout 3 years ago
how do they no hoo hit hoo first????
gigglefool 3 years ago
the swords and the inside jacket have electric sensors
im50yearsold 3 years ago
It has very little to do with who hit who first. What the referee is looking for is what's called "Right-of-way", which, very basically, means who rightfully has offense.
WoodrowClock 3 years ago
Im only just starting and from what i've read about fencing it sounds really great.!!!!!!
jazzmagic2 3 years ago 2
Fencing (the best sport in the world!!)
I am a fencer.. I LOVE FENCING its the best i have been fencing for 5 years.
mahbobane90 3 years ago 3
fencing foil owns!!!!!
jctpeproductions 3 years ago 3
WTF,
that ONE GUY SAID
he fenced baldini or joppich?
are u serious?
wow.
wasup109 3 years ago
Jeeeeeeesus, that's so fast! I love fencing foil :)
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alejaperu 3 years ago
man i love fencing almost advancing to metel swords in a bit got 1st one time
mattfred1 4 years ago
what does the red/white/green ovals mean when they do whatever they do...points right? just can't figure out what...
fallinginstyle217 4 years ago
Yeah, basically right, they're aiming for the torso, the bit which has the silver-ish jacket over it. If a red light comes up it means the guy to our right has hit, green light means the guy to our left. A white light means they've hit, but not on the torso area, so it's either arm, leg, head or floor
Voiv 4 years ago
ah, thankyou.
fallinginstyle217 4 years ago
omg, i fenced that tall guy b4. i didn't stand a chance. i like italian style. too bad, flick's banned.
howlingpunkin 4 years ago
these guys are amazing! the weapon I use is a little different, mine has a french grip, I just like it better.
amazingplatypus69 4 years ago
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noob. you won't win any bouts if you fence with a french grip. but good luck to you ! LOL
dfasdasdfa0987654321 3 years ago
HEY!!! im new ok, and im proud of myself right now, I just got a few points on this fencer I go to school with, after he beat 2 teachers, 2 students and recently got 1st in a fencing tournament. even he was impressed, but yah I just switched to a pistol grip.
amazingplatypus69 3 years ago
A french grip is great!
Dreyman2 3 years ago
thats not true
many bouts are won with french grips
leschevauxdebois 3 years ago
Stop bickering about the grips, people. It's a matter of personal preference. Personally, I use a pistol grip(Belgian, to be precise), but that was my choice.
One downside to the pistol grip is that it focuses more of the control on the wrist rather than the fingers, like a French grip. On the other hand, I think the problem people have with the French grip is that too many fencers (especially beginners) hold it like a stick and fence accordingly.
I won my first tournament with a French grip!
WoodrowClock 3 years ago
it amazex me how they do not have the "perfect" en guarde and lunge thatt hey always tell you that you need to maintain when you go to most places
jayisoriginal91 4 years ago
This class of fencing is so unlike 'average' fencing, it beggars belief!
flaze3 4 years ago
no wonder lei made it so far hes HUGE. wish i was taller for this sport
evilpinkfreud 4 years ago
It's not a hard sport. You can improve quickly and it's a lot of fun. Anybody can be good, it's not something that you have to just have a talent for.
jayisoriginal91 4 years ago
Great fencers. Truly amazing to watch. I take issue with Joppich's cockiness, but hey, he's an Olympic Gold Medalist. I started in a club that was all about honor and simply acknowledging a touch with a smile and a "good shot". So watching some fencers who will prance around the strip like they own the world after getting a point sometimes puts me off. All in all, though, these guys are amazing.
t800rad2 4 years ago 5
god peter joppichs flick at 00:36 is incredible
jeffmcharlton 4 years ago
oh yeah he loves that 7 flick on lefties
xxVispilloxx 4 years ago
Foil is best. Epee takes to long and saber is just whack whack whack.
Great video.
Peter Yoppich 3-Time World Champion
NCFencer 4 years ago 2
amen to that
jeffmcharlton 4 years ago 2
Whats better, saber, foil or MMA???
slops21 4 years ago
isn't that kind of like asking "which is better guitar, piano, or pig wrestling"?
kirin42 4 years ago 4
PIG WRESTLING!!!!!
LtShield 4 years ago 2
Cool sport, but I don't like the suits.. they are gay..
Mattieman2 4 years ago
They're for protection.
LittleFoxDude 4 years ago
Yes ofcourse, I know that... But it looks gay, why can't they make something that looks nice and is good for protection
Mattieman2 4 years ago
I honestly don't see anything wrong with em. They aren't supposed to be costumes, and they aren't supposed to be NFL uniforms either. They suit the purpose of the sport quite well. If it isn't broken, don't try to fix it, right?
LittleFoxDude 4 years ago
It's just my opinion.
Mattieman2 4 years ago
Nah, it's cool dude. :D
LittleFoxDude 4 years ago
You're criticizing something for style, and you're calling IT gay? haha.
ubernerd35 4 years ago
i think it would be cool if each country had an color uniform
NCFencer 4 years ago
Yup
Mattieman2 4 years ago
I want to do this sport sooooo BAD!!
LordOfTheHall 4 years ago
Why not try Kendo if you can't do this???
slops21 4 years ago
There is too a french fencer he was olympic champion when he was 180r 20 het name was something like guar.... does anybody know him and P.joppic is the best
rubennn545 4 years ago
Peter Joppich is me idol!!forever! :P
I love you peterrrrr jajaja...
I from in Argentina, Buenos Aires,,,
byee
kiss
DELFINA IBAÑEZ
SchermaDelfi 4 years ago
Amazing this is such a graceful sport. must learn it!
frumfrumps 4 years ago
The0Hippy, I'm not against you in any way, but I'd like to point out that you have absolutely NO right whatsoever to try and ridicule these guys' fencing. Of course, yeah, they make one or two mistakes; we all do ocassionally. But these are olympic fencers. Where are you? Certainly not fencing in the olympics. I'm sure we'd ALL lose to them very quickly, even despite them using 'too much arm motion'. (Though in my opinion, they don't.)
PrettyMuchABigDeal 4 years ago
baldini is great. but yes once again, pwned by joppich. who btw, I personally find very annoying because of the way he screams when he wins.
Airhead43 4 years ago
its all about celebrating victory. screaming makes it all the more dramatic
greenknight44 4 years ago
flicking, use of wrist, use of finger and thumb, use of arm - if you score a hit, you score a hit.
frysamuels 4 years ago 2
EXTRAORDINARIO, he visto esta serie muchas veces, en mi pais PERU en sudamerica, los niños entrenan mucho para que un dia esten en este nivel de competicion, gracias a estos deportistas que son un ejemplo de esfuerzo y tenacidad.
Fernando Canchez
esgrimaperu 4 years ago 2
but he has been OWNED by Joppich again =P
JulianInc 4 years ago
yes, but anyway baldini rules international ranking :PPP
alessinathefencer89 4 years ago 2