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  • im always host but i have 100mbs connection so yea i have a high kd and i only die when shot in the back or completely surrounded

  • CoD with their Host bullshit and Valve is over here with Dedicated Servers.

  • wait if host gives an advantage in cod if i got host i would go ham on kidz lol

  • @lotmein20 But when i'm not host I perform exactly the same. There's no need to be a jerk.

  • i get host all the time and i luv it

  • Host + Camping = Win everytime.... Unfortunately.

  • I love my host, g11 hardened so sick :3

  • This is BS. I get host 8 out of 10 matches and my gameplay does not change at all.

  • i ALLWAYS shoot them first and they ALLWAYS!!! kill me i have 21% accuracy its fucking frustrating this game has got HUGE problems, i would go back to WAW but its fall of hackers with god mode

  • WoR, this is excellent. I really admire the thought you put into critiquing BO. Also, most overpowered gun in BO = host.

  • I disliked since you said you didnt care. JOKES. I didnt do either one of them....

  • It's sad that us Xbox 360 gamers have to pay for Xbox Live just so we can get this crap. Definitely not renewing my Gold. I mean, I know lag is going to happen, but when every single game runs on P2P "servers", which are very cheap on the developer's side, there's no excuse for paying. Techically, we're giving developers money for letting us play on P2P.

  • you also might notice that he's pretty much camping in the second view(with host) and without host he is running out in the open. :/

  • Respond to this video... use MP5k steady aim pro when ur host ur like god to other players its crazy i go up against full partys and crush them

  • to be honest its kinda hard to compare the two games cos they're completely different. on the left he's rushing with the patched ak74u which is average. in the game on the right he's playing with arguably the best gun on the game now, the ak47 and he's camping so of course the game on the right would naturally lead to him playing better regardless of lag

  • I have a 4.02 ratio in black ops and a 2.07 wlr, but when i see my whole team is a 3bar team, and everyone on my opponent's team is running a 4 bar, i leave. There's no point. I will lose almost every single gun battle, unless i camp. I tried one game facing a 4 bar team, with an ak74 grip rapid fire, and i lost every gunfight even with prefire. This really needs to be fixed.

  • Hi, does some one of you guys wont to play blackops with me ? We can get a team. Please leave me a message. I play at Xbox 360 and PS3. It should be awesome!

  • I started playing Black Ops online and got to level 35, but I found it so frustrating because of the lag that I had to stop playing and go back to MW2. Have you ever been killed by someone before you even saw them or shot directly at someone several times without kiling them only for them to kill you? That's lag!

  • this doesnt make any sense

  • With all this proof we find on how shitty black ops is why do people still buy and play it? the game made me so mad I had to sell it.

  • A well placed Semtex or Frag usually deals with any camper nicely. If you get killed repeatedly by the same person at the same area blame yourself for not using your tactical grenades or lethal grenades.  Host does have an unfair advantage when it comes to gunmanship. Be smart about it. If your team sucks well you're pretty much screwed. You're only as strong as your weakest link.

  • i almost host every game but enemies see me earlier and i get terrible screen lag

    somebody help me pls ?

  • Sandy ravage style game ?? Sandy dosent sit in 1 building the whole game LOL this guys bad

  • current game will drop and a new match is set up. With all of the other players who have lost valuable time on their contracts that they have payed their hard earned money for. my brother almost made a 3.0 ratio contract giving gest. 1500 EXP and 1500 COD points. he had a 3.5 ratio near the end of the game. the host player said, no. dropped the game, it failed to set a new host, my brother lost his chance.

  • In my opinion Black Ops for Xbox 360 is unfair by a HUGE degree to everyone. I have belief in this because the game host is given a complete advantage over all the other players. lets say for example that the host finds out he is host, and her gets himself into a tight situation, or he might not like a certain other player. All he would have to do is leave the game, sending everyone else into host migration. there is about a 35% chance that the game will fail to set another game host. then the..

  • its all about camo

  • Dis-I-Like

  • this is why PC is dominate xD dedicated servers solve this!

  • Let me rephrase that, I get okay connection but my interwebz is slow

  • I get host even though I get crappy connection and it's like I don't even have it

  • i hate shooting someone 10 times and then I don't get a hitmarker at all, smh

  • @megatroll this is true, but host advantage is still blatantly obvious. Black ops is an unfinished game that was put out just to meet a deadline.

  • Lol he dashboarded.

  • The person who wasn't host was also running around with an RPG...

  • @Codgames21 well there is a way u can tell if your host when you start a game add you start with the number 12 ans wait the longest means ur host and everyone is settling on ur connection

  • how do you know if ur host or not? and the main difference between the two gameplays here are the non host is actually moving around and the host is camping.

  • @tbigam You're host if your connection bar is always 4 bars during the match.

  • I find it that when I'm not hosting, and I shoot someone, I get a lag surge.

  • its all about host thats what iv been telling people wake up

    

  • This is exactly what i preach to people. No one believes me when i say europeans on NA host play bad because of connection. I drop 10 bullets on black ops and the kill cam shows that i stare at my killer like an idiot

  • holy crap.. ive been host for 10 FFA games now, im running around with the spas and dominating every-one. The numbers are smooth at the start of the game, and my spas is killing in one hit when it usually takes 2.

    All i can say is im gonna start playing cod a whole let less now i know connection is this dominant....

  • This is not exactly true.

    Treyarch implemented a routine in the game's netcode to even out host and latency related advantages by decreasing the frame rate of players in favour. Yet this backfired and made Black Ops the nonsensical spray fest it is now. Most people just don't realize. They simply take it they got outplayed.

    It comes into play when the game calculates hits and collisions. Observe objectively and you'll notice it kicking in.

    This effecively makes BO literally unplayable.

    Peace

  • @megatroll you really are a mega troll

  • @jackp4298

    Why? For stating the truth?

    For not blindly swallowing everything Activision throws at me?

    For refusing to go with the stream of hiveminds?

    For pointing out a game's flaws that I paid money for?

    Free you mind and stop being a tool mate.

  • @megatroll you are almost a troll... except you dont rage on good videos which this isn't so you just rage on bad videos

  • @megatroll says you

  • ive never had host cause i cant change my nat tyoe to open

    not once :(

  • Connection is WAAAYYY more important than skill in black ops... like i heard that black ops was going to have way more skill needed... i was finally like YES! becase i have skill, but terrible connection...and thats what black ops is... a connection game

  • Being Host doesn't get you an advantage in Black ops or MW2 but it matters who the host is.

  • 2 most important things in COD:

    1.Connection

    2.What Gun/perks you're using

  • The one on the right is just camping the one on the left is beasting it up

  • I just played on host for the first time in black ops (not kidding, i RARELY get host). I had a 28 win streak in free for all and never went below a 3.00 KD. In those 28 matches, I only got knifed twice. Usually i'll get knifed 5+ times in one match when not on host. Playing on host is amazing! Especially when you're used to a 2-3 bar connection.

  • i got host today and man was it great my famas killed people in like 2 shots where as without host it took like half a clip

  • How do i know if i am host??

    

  • @79sweeps if you hit select as soon as you can while match is counting down and you have a 4-bar and no one else does then you have host

  • How can u tell if you are host?

  • I never really look to see if I'm host...is it safe to say that when I have a beast game and feel like I'm dominating, that I'm likely host and not as good as I think I am?

  • Dear Developers,

    DEDICATED SERVERS

    That is all. 

  • Well he is playing completely different on the right side. Maybe he was messing around on the first game then decided to tryhard it on the next game. Doesn't really have much to do with internet connection.

  • When you have more mbps it will take less bullets to kill someone because you shots will register . But if you have about 1-5 mbps , you'll find yourself using a half a mag to kill someone , and when you try to escape getting shot by running around a corner , you'll still get killed because your movement doesnt even register fast enough. check your speeds at speedtest . net .mine is bad because i have optimum but im about to get verizon fios . i still manage to have a 1.69 kd with 1-4mbps

  • @Baller527 same amount of bullets to kill.

  • @OutragedPanda no , when my internet is going 13mbps i shot someone with an m16 and they die in two bursts. but when my internet is going 1 mbps it take around 3 and 4 burst to kill someone because some of your hits dont register due to slow internet

  • The more mbps your internet service provides , the better. Sandy Ravage has verizon fios with 25 up and download mbps so that gives him an extremely high chance of being host (thats why he does so well. not saying that hes not good but if he has 1mbps from optimum , he would be getting owned quite often ) Most people with the high kdr have good internet speeds. And most people who have 0.50 k/d are stealing internet from their neighbor and is getting less than 3 mbps(or has optimum 1-10mbps)

  • This really doesn't prove anything, it's 2 different games. To have a more controlled experiment, you should have a 1on1 match, and each side be each player's point of view

  • this is why dedicated servers on pc. trash all cheap consoles which break down in 3years

  • @lyndonb18 they dont. xbox is superior

  • You should have not labeled them and then asked if we could see a noticeable difference or asked us to pick which one we thought was host advantage.

  • Hmm... Let's See... Treyarch and Vahnderhaar and his little pussy designers are paid hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars to make a game that functions smoothly. And we are stuck with this unfair fucked up overrarated piece of shit. This lag shit is why i hate this game sometimes. The game would be great... if they had the balls to take out Faggot Stand and fix their shit server. And to those of you who think Last Stand is fair... You can go fuck yourself.

  • fmas+ak47u+ghost pro ..... just makes me want to kill myself there so overpowered that on the kill cams your just standing there not even moving. plus the people (most) that use it are assholes who just rub it in your face afterwards.

  • It's not 1/2 seconds it's like 0.05 second delay, another reason to why he might have done crap in the without host game is because he was running around with a fucking RPG!!

  • 1-2 seconds? So you're going to tell me everyone has a 1,000-2,000MS Ping? Okay Wings.

  • @TheTJFLAGLER No, but the difference seems to be that big.. and theatre mode/host migrations [watch how far you are from where you were before] give you the real idea.

  • @aSASa45454 But you gotta think about it, with host your connection to the server itself is nearly instantaneous. So you have roughly a 5ms ping, which is what I get anyways when I'm hosting a server on my PC, so let's just say it's that. If you have a decent connection to the host, you're ping is going to be anywhere from 50-100, 1/20-1/10 of a second. I think he camped more the host round, and Wings is just ignorant as to the reason for his "beast" game.

  • @dyloHMFC every video he does he is complaining about something. if treyarch listened to wings. the world would be a better place. gezus!!!

  • good going WINGS, love how u do the slpit screen comparison!

  • if the host isnt on your side youve pretty much got solid gold shoes and spitballs, and if there using the fmas or the ak47u... just quit

  • Sry WoR but, in the host game there are 2 major changes...first he camped for 98% of the game and second you said in this game he was on your team which im guessing he wasnt in the other game so of course he is ganna do better when he isnt facing you and your team.

  • LOL THE ONLY REASON HE GOT BETTER WAS BECAUSE HE CAMPED

  • @Shaqster495 it takes no skill at all to camp in a corner with claymores around you, and its a harder and better game if you rush, plus if you get a high killstreak by running around the map it looks better. not moving your left stick at all and just waiting for them to come through a door takes skill does it .... i must be wrong then

  • @rmz2502k8 I disagree. Camping takes skill, just like rushing does and sitting practically paralyzed in a corner is just as easy as running around the map like an idiot.

    But you have to admit, if you can't kill a camper after the first time he killed you (given that you know his position, line of sight etc), then you have to admit that you're either unskilled, or the camper is skilled.

    Camping is effective. Rushing? Not so much. Hence how you claim the latter is harder.

  • @rmz2502k8 I totally agree with you camping requires no skill at all wings thinks its because of host advantage, i agree that helped but the main reason was because he had camped in that game which requires no skill

  • You should've got him to use the same class and same game type. He kind of just ran around in the non-host and then pinned an area down as host with a different class.

  • the right side is very campy

  • damn look at those likes

  • how do u know when ur the host?

  • @BEARARMZ In the beginning of the game right as the countdown begins hit the back button, host is the 1 person with 4 bar before everyone connects.

  • PC has dedi's..... WE WIN

  • Looks like he camped for kill streaks in the second vid. I believe that people generally perform better on their second try of something. Especially since he had just played that map.

  • man, the dude on the right camp harder than anne frank

  • @InfamousCamper He camps harder than Bin Laden (:

  • @InfamousCamper OMG, this isnt funny! Fuckin asshole !

  • @InfamousCamper Not funny

  • @InfamousCamper but aint camping is being only in a corner?

  • i cant focus on 2 videos at once my brain hurts

  • lol he tried to dropshot the dogs.

  • Ping shouldnt exist in this world :( ..

  • wow another vid from wings complaining about something

  • @Ju5TMarG he wasnt complaining about anything u fucking moron he was stating something that obvious!

  • @imfreak9 wow dude you need to calm down.

  • How so you get host?

  • looks like once he stopped fucking camping he was shit again....

  • yea he camped most of the time and clearly he faced worst players with host. u guys are great players and u destroyed his team first game. once he was on ur team.. well u guys destroyed the other team again. yes, i agree host makes a different but dont say its a 2 second advantage thats bs man

  • @optimusman88 hes exagerating

    its more like a half a second to a full second depending on latency

  • Does anyone notice that killstreaks like Chopper Gunner and Gunship are not as effective when experiencing lag?

  • nice but the right was camping it up big style, check out our channel to see a video of 164 kills on nuketown and the tactics behind it so you can do it yourself!

  • LOL unless they make a game just so Red can go 100-0 every time online he will never be satisfied

  • Quickscoping, Noob tubing, painkiller, All gone thank god, Yes I agree the lag and 2nd chance are frustrating but I think the developers are moving in the right direction in the sense that they are always listening to the community and trying to improve the game as best they can. It will never satisfy everyones taste. I just wanted to say I was chufed that they brought back zombies, Such a good laugh.

  • Im gonna leave wings' video's running in a playlist while I go the gym and do some errands.

    I'll like them now before I leave.

  • So why is the lag worse? Oh I get it Treyarch suks!!

  • 2nd chance and lag ruined black ops for me :(

  • Play Gears of War 2 and you'll see what host advantage is really like. Its like playing Black Ops but you're the only one with stopping power and juggernaut.

  • right side: seananners

    left side: some random noob

  • Right side = Camping

    Left side = Rushing out into the middle of the map

  • as much as i agree host adv is shitty/ great depending upon whether your giving or taking =D the two games were completly different in terms of tactics. i mean they use different setups... one is spamming RPGs left right and centre and running around. whilst the other is picking his shots sticking in the buildings watching his line of sights building his killstreaks.

    have u not thought perhaps its two differnt people playing? i mean i only have one controller. and my mates are shit on B.Opps xD

  • @DavidWalker1987

    although I agree with you 99%, there is still a noticeable difference in the hit detection between the 2.

  • @DavidWalker1987 Agreed. This is a terrible example.

  • @DavidWalker1987 killstreaks? he had the Napalm as hes highest ,and it was very clear to me what Wings said , plus lets take me MY SELF for an Example I do very good allot of high KDs most of the time ..but then there is some times Mostly weekends I do shit , like no crap i go 10 and 15 always -KD .and ill be What the fuck ?? i cant even Aim before he take me down .. then i did a little test showed that 99% of the times that i dont do good am not Host and almost every time i go good am host

  • I just want to say Thanks to everyone who answered my question on how to tell if you're host!

  • Either way he's camping the majority of the time when he has host! So that's another reason why he's getting more kills

  • 6:00 says it all. 

  • I have a great idea! Stop worrying about host advantage and gun balance and just play the game!

  • Left side - he ran around.

    Right side -pitched a tent.

  • Make internet better and cheaper! everyone uses it so profits would still be really high! Thumbs up if you agree!

  • Anyone who complains about host is a pussy. Adjust your playstyle to the ping difference, and beast just the same. Know your not host and adjust. There is no advantage to someone being host if you play knowing you aren't host.

  • That is a pretty awful comparison.

    Without host he was using an AK74, was constantly using his RPG, and was always moving around the map so he died a lot.

    With host he only used the AK47 and generally was only sitting in one place, and every time he did move around he got rocked.

    There is no doubt host advantage in this game sucks, but this wasn't a good comparison to prove it.

  • this is why its so EXTREMELY fail of companys nowdays to not add DEDICATED servers whit their fps games :x

    It doesnt fix it if the said company is the only one that can host dedicated servers, or and takes money for a service players coulda provided for themself

  • Eh wat kinda tent does he hav up :L

  • /watch?v=SSJxrDmJ1kY

    double spawn tomahawk!!

  • How can you tell if you have host??

  • You ain't seen host advantage until you've played GoW

  • @MrAzuro786 that shit is trueeeeee!! lol

  • @MrAzuro786

    Thats true but still host in COD can be super annoying as well when the host has ak74u and lightweight since the lag makes it impossible to kill them because you wont notice them until after they pop out and fill you with holes.

    It also makes it annoying because of the hit markers. As in you shoot the other player and see 10 hit markers and then he shoots you and you die in one hit but when the killcam comes up you see yourself get shot three times and the other guy only once.

  • @MrAzuro786 hehe laughed when I saw your comment dude...sooooooo true

  • @MrAzuro786 yes, gears 2 host gets the ability to see the future, and thats a fact

  • @MrAzuro786 Killing someone from like ten feet with one shot with the shotgun is fun xD

  • @GrizzledPenguin then you go on 10 minute swearing spree, then smash your controller onto the tv, i guess thats just me.

  • @MrAzuro786 hell yea u beast if u host in gears

  • @MrAzuro786 No it's everyone who plays GOW the game is really aggravating when host isn't on your team

  • @MrAzuro786 so true

  • come play your fps games on the pc and have real dedicated servers with no host advantage. PC FTW

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  • Lol "host advantage". God knows why people take console gaming seriously

  • IDK why they wont just have dedicated servers for a game so popular. I think its unfair for another player to have an advantage just because he's playing as host. I usually play with a two bar connection because i live in japan and im sick and tired of being at an disadvantage just because of connection alone. I still manage to post a good kd but it just makes me not want to BO anymore. Especially since I still get a three or four bar while playing MW2.

  • @krhagans mw2 does not have dedicated servers either, same as black ops

  • lol i liked the vid to 9000 ;)

  • host is what team swat in halo 3 is all about,

  • @TheTentClub you either need an amazing connection or a fucking horrid one! i play alot of team swat on halo 3 and i pull host most games because i dirty uk connection :P

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  • can u give some gun variety plz? im sick of famas ak74u and commando gameplays give us something else

  • host does not mean jack shit. thats just another reason for ppl to bitch about how they get pwned. shut up nd jus play

  • I get host most of the time, and unless I'm playing with internationals, I don't get much of an advantage, if any. I'm in the U.S. and I usually give most U.S. players 4 bars. Everyone having 4 bars = hardly any delay. Host having 4 bars, and all else having 3, will give the host a noticeable advantage. When the host has a 2 bar (yes it happens), the host will usually have a HUGE advantage. In 2-bar-host games, it's usually too difficult to walk in a straight line, much less kill the host.

  • Host advantage is such a big deal when me and my mate go online together I seem to always get host so litaratly playing with him makes we a 2-3KD player from my regular 1.3 ish KD

  • dude on the left isn't camping as much as dude on the right too.

  • also he is using diff guns ak74-u on the left and the ak-47 on the right and also like doeesreaky was saying he was spawn trapped and was being reaped but on the right he just camps really hard so its not host advantage he just change up his game play thats it

  • Just because he did good in one game and bad in another doesn't mean it was because he had host. . . .

  • This is very true, I would say I'm prob just a bit better then the average cod player, I have a 3.11 ratio due to the fact I'm host prob like every 4/5 games, running around with a ak74u is very easy for hosts, but you do have to have slightly good reflexes and know the maps to get a good score, but yeah get good Internet and you do better ? It's fair.

  • crankfr

    type it into youtube and you will get some amazing vidoes of black ops

  • WHY WOULD HE DASHBOARD THAT GAME!!

  • yeah the right game play the dude camped for 80% of the match... lol... but there is obvious advantages to being host. this is very true.

  • lmao 6:32 drop shot dogs? hahaha what a badkid.