@redsirius508 Ummm. Hydrogen is the most common element in the universe and oxygen is the 3rd. So I guess its pretty logical to assume water is pretty common in the universe. Since water is H2O. Water was even found on the moon.
Creationists don't except the theory of evolution because its a theory. Well gravity is a theory too. Do angels hold us by our feet so we dont fly away?
Only question remaining, when will we have a few hundred satellites like Kepler (and even more advanced) up there? We have the skills, we have the buck.
Only question remaining, when will we have a few hundred satellites like Kepler (and even more advanced) up in the sky? We have the skills, we have the buck.
Only question remaining, when will we have a few hundred satellites like Kepler (and even more advanced) up in the sky? We have the skills, we have the buck.
Only question remaining, when will we have a few hundred satellites like Kepler (and even more advanced) up in the sky? We have the skills, we have the buck.
Only question remaining, when will we have a few hundred satellites like Kepler (and even more advanced) up in the sky? We have the skills, we have the buck.
and don't pick on the grammar in my passages because i wrote them pretty quickly. They are not in such bad state you that can't understand what i'm saying.
@redsirius508 Actually, it is that bad. Take your time and write you ideas clearly. You seem to be a froth at the mouth imbicile creationist who doesn't understand what is being discussed. An exoplanet(GJ1214b) is a waterworld, so I think it would be wise if you followed you own advice and did some research before making a mockery of yourself. I'd address you other points, if they had made any sense.
@personEks FYI this planet is tidal locked(only one side of it sees the sun causing temperature extremes on either side.) If evolutionary biology is upheld life can only be found on the edge between the dark and the light side of the planet. This exponetially decreases the chances of life. Much unlike europa where you are more likely to find life than on this planet. so you better check your on facts stupid "imbecile". so go ahead and stick something up your ass. thank you XD
@personEks guess you got nothing to say. btw i checked out your favs,even though we may not agree on this I love the work anonymous and wiki leaks is doing
@redsirius508 I just said something to which you seen oblivious to. If you'd like to clarify some of the assertions you made, I'll happily address them. Have you checked out GJ1214b yet?
@personEks that is what i was talking about you stupid son of a bitch check your fact s please please check them before you reply. Please for everybody's sake .
@redsirius508 Um... you need to present you points in a comprehensible way before it is possible to read them. You failed to do that. Have you checked out GJ1214b yet?
@personEks I don even know how to say this to you. the planet is tidal locked I've talked to professors in astronomy at UT where I study particle physics/ architectural engineering and they told me this you are more likely to find life on europa than on GJ1214b. You uneducated asshole. I've read the full length 135 page report on this. So shut the fuckup before you make your self look like an more of an ass than your already are.
@redsirius508 You are the one who looks like an ass with your use of profanity. Wipe the froth from your mouth and present the points you failed to articulate.
@personEks How do I put this i articulated my point here "this planet is tidal locked(only one side of it sees the sun causing temperature extremes on either side.) If evolutionary biology is upheld, life can only be found on the edge between the dark and the light side of the planet. This exponetially decreases the chances of life. Much unlike europa where you are more likely to find life than on this planet(GJ1214b)" this is from my prev. comment you waste of space
@redsirius508 "Your basing your whole video on incomplete theories scientist have only confirmed relativity and quantum mechanics but so far they couldn't even tie it together string theory is still incomplete and there is a strong lack of evidence so far. And your whole drivel of multiple universes is a possibility it can't be even proven you dum shit"-a particle physicist. You must have flunked in epic fashion. You shouldn't go knocking on the English departments door either.
@redsirius508 "Even when consider evolution our planet theoretically need the right amino acids which developed from millions upon millions of years of electromagnetic forces(lightning strikes) and heat to form the first dan strand which is still pretty hard to explain in itself" - clarification please.
@redsirius508 "What i'm saying is we don't have close to enough data or evidence to support your claim. For goodness scientists only understand 4.6% of it the rest is dark energy and dark matter and this theory actually has some evidence" -clarification please.
@redsirius508 Clarification? I know it's dificult to make bullshit clear, but give it a shot. You're studying particle physics, so it should be a walk in the park for you.
@personEks Apparently, you don't understand anything beyond that of a 12 year old's comprehension. Basically,GJ1214b is a planet that moves around its sun. just like the earth but its spin is the same as the moon in principle (due to how the moon spins we only see one side of the moon this called being tidal locked.)This principle applies to this planet,one side gets a sun throughout its orbital cycle and become very hot while the other is cold because this planet is in tidal lock with its sun.
@personEks this means life can only exist in the narrow edge between the night side and the day side of the planet. Thus decreasing the probability of life exponentially from 10% to a mere .000004% and this why your are more likely by a mere again .0003 to find life on europa( one of jupiter's moons) with a icy surface and liquid oceans underneath heated by gravitational friction caused by Jupiter's gravity.
@personEks you are an imbecile who apparently lacks any understanding of astronomy or physics or anything resembling the sort. You make incredulous assertions due to your mind's lack of intelligence and an abundance of mush. Thus you are nothing more than a worthless piece of garbage probably born to even more worth pieces of garbage. Useless to society or rest of mankind.
@redsirius508 "wtf you dumass do you understand the probability of having water on those planets the basic necessity for life" -this was just barely comprehensible and I'm happy that you have(amungst you frothing volly of insults) at least have conceded that there is water beyond our planet. Now if only you'd stop the tap dance and clarify you other points like I asked or ar you to riddled with rage to clarify them?
@personEks do you understand they have not confirmed there is water on that planet using a probe they have use spectral imaging to see a steamy hot planet possibly rocky possibly containing water its not even confirmed look at the report before you talk you insolent bitch. You dumbass bitch you just lost the argument.
@personEks you can barely understand your own frothing volley of insults and you can't comprehend anything go and learn some basic physics and astronomy before you talk. What points are there to clarify.
@personEks there is still no uniting theory between quantum mechanics and relativity/ universal gravitation. String theory that unites the two but is incomplete because there were too many equations. the multiple dimensions are true to an extent but there is no proof yet these claims in this video are going into the area of theoretical physics which is still being tested and changed constantly. that i guess addresses my other points.
Even when consider evolution our planet theoretically need the right amino acids which developed from millions upon millions of years of electromagnetic forces(lightning strikes) and heat to form the first dan strand which is still pretty hard to explain in itself so please take the time to lookup information and facts before you make a mockery out of your self.
What i'm saying is we don't have close to enough data or evidence to support your claim. For goodness scientists only understand 4.6% of it the rest is dark energy and dark matter and this theory actually has some evidence so before you rule out the creationists read up on your facts and try to understand your information stupid shit.
wtf you dumass do you understand the probability of having water on those planets the basic necessity for life . Your basing your whole video on incomplete theories scientist have only confirmed relativity and quantum mechanics but so far they couldn't even tie it together string theory is still incomplete and there is a strong lack of evidence so far. And your whole drivel of multiple universes is a possibility it can't be even proven you dum shit. I am not saying there is or is not a God
Awesome video. I don't know any creationists who would agree that earth is the ONLY planet in the "Goldilocks Zone" but I sure believe I AM special to live in one. Thanks God!
Just a quick note: I'm not christian, I'm agnostic, I believe in some sort of higher power or consciousness, I don't exactly disbelieve in evolution, though I don't believe in a big bang.
Do I believe in an almighty god that sees and knows all and created everything? No, I think that's a tad bit ridiculous. Do I believe that there are beings out there that are beyond our understanding, and may have helped shape things? Yeah, I do, so call me an idiot but that's what I believe.
@tehdarkswordsman The more you learn, the more you'll find those beliefs hard to hold on to. Some people think this is tragic, but I think that letting go of those mistaken, misguided childhood beliefs was the best thing that could have happened to me. (In clarification: For me, they really were childhood beliefs. I left creationism behind when I was 17.)
@tehdarkswordsman Not sad. Not believing in an organized religion is the most important step, as agnostics don't cause the worlds violence. However you are not truly an agnostic. From what you described I would classify you as a weak theist. An agnostic believes that one can truly not know either way. In essence, all science adhering atheists are also at least 0.1% agnostic.
Another consideration - the Big Bang doesn't require atheism - as one could argue that a god caused it
@tehdarkswordsman Just open your mind, your sure to notice many things that don't really go well with what the bible claims and go against actually study that's being done in the world.
I know it may be hard to let go after beliving it for a good ammount of time, but that's only natural, just give yourself time to think about what you want to belive in.
this movie looks pretty fun, based on evolution vs. creation, I like the fact that just 2 brothers made the entire thing, called EVOLUTION CREEK, look it up!
humility and curiosity beyond imagination. i want to live forever and be on the spaceships that go visit these new worlds and see them for my own eyes. but i am mortal and will never see new worlds....how sad...
@eidius1989, Not to be depressing. But I doubt our species will ever leave this solor system. Example: Mars is like looking at the skeleton of a animal, containing millions of mysteries and resources. But, our species doesnt make it an important effort to get to Mars, why? No money is gonna get made.. yet.
@tarantulaTEP That's just youtube being wonky. It's been doing that same thing for a while now, and every time one tells it to display these comments, it becomes obvious that they're from hours or days before on started viewing.
That's exactly why they love to keep their claims, has long has they remain "Important" in some manner of way, they shall stick to their version of infinite boredom and complete nonsense.
Eventually...People are afraid to admit that their importance is kinda the same has a microbe...Because it will deprive them of their delusion of superiority.
The key to this- is that they got the world from some perspective, they are afraid to lose their tiny dead emotion of order.
We who are not creationists can rest assured in only one fact, that since we are only one in billions ... we can have hope that most of the other billions of worlds that have life never have the lameness that is creationism.
Absolutely mind blowing to even attempt to contemplate the vast scale of the universe. Who needs a deity to inspire awe when you can just look up at the sky on a clear night.
@Spiderpope Who needs a sky or a deity? there are enough tiny universes within the Insanely-sub-universe within each tiny fraction of every part of existence.
So...Even a fart can give incredible amounts of awe =P
My short existence is very precious to me. I soak up all life and the amazing world has to offer because it is finite. I have a great sense of peace and well being without God. This enrages my fanatic in-laws because it just doesn't bother me what they think what will happen to me and my 9y/o non believing son. We are grounded in reality and happy to be there. The God in someone's mind just doesn't bother me.
I don't blame God for anything because there is no God. God exists within the mind of the believer, therefore I am not subject to his imaginary rules. I am not going to be judged or punished by someone's imaginary God. I am humble enough to realize that I am just a spec in this vast universe and nothing was created or designed for me. It would show immense conceit, arrogance and ignorance to think otherwise.
Well, Goldilocks still hasn't found anyone to talk to. If statistical probability indicates your friends are out there, why haven't we heard from them? Maybe GOD doesn't think we're very good playmates?
@couyang95 Is there anything that wouldn't reaffirm a person's belief in god? I agree, a god that created trillions of planets with billions upon billions of other earths is very concerned about pork and shellfish consumption and gay people. He would describe the earth as if it sits on pillars. He would describe space as a cloth shroud with pinholes in it. He would need days and days to make the earth and its inhabitants separate from the trillions of other planets and stars made in one day.
@ultim4t32 Pork and shellfish consumption? what? Yes, He loves gay people just as He loves straight people. Anyways, it's a common misconception that God wants to make people straight. If you're going to judge God, atleast judge Him for who He really is...
@couyang95 God set out rules of what are good to eat. Pork and shellfish are abominations and should not be eaten. And somehow I don't think that ordering people to stone those who lie with a man as one lies with a woman is very loving.
@werebee I think you're mistaken by misinterpreting the context and history of the Bible and God. I eat pork nearly every single day. Anyways, I don't believe in such a God that orders people to stone those who are gay.
@couyang95 "If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13) So you don't believe in the God of the Bible?
@werebee I do. Leviticus 20:10 If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Jesus also says, "But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart, Matt 5:28" Looks like we ALL should die right?
@werebee YES. You're absolutely right. We're all in the same boat and we all deserve death. James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it. --> we're accountable for even one sin and have failed terribly. However, is the law sin? No: Romans 7:7-25. BUT Jesus "entered once for all in into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption" Hebrews 9:11-10:18
@werebee He came to fulfill the law - Matt.5:17. and we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified. (Gal2:16) AND the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. (Rom 12:8)
@couyang95 The bible commands people not to eat pork and shellfish.
Also are you really going to try and argue that god doesn't condemn love between gay people as a sin? I was immersed in christianity and was a christian for 25 years of my life, I think I know who god is at this point.
@ultim4t32 You've mistaken the context and history of the Bible and God. I eat pork almost everyday. 3 minutes ago to be exact. Do you really know God? God also condemns a selfish thought as a sin. If this is true, everyone including me should be condemned and in hell. So we're all in the same boat are we not?
@couyang95 Yes, I know the "interpretation" on any scripture can be changed to justify any belief or retroactively create a fulfilled prophecy etc. That is the beauty of a book written as nebulously as the bible. I know christians believe that no one that is a "real" christian can ever change their mind. Do you think "thought crime" is a moral thing? How can you control what you think? The bible commands not to lust after a woman in your heart. If you aren't gay, good luck with that one
@ultim4t32 lol.... ummm. Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love. 6:16 For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation. Colossians 3:11 Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; but Christ is all and in all.
@couyang95 The question still remains, why do men have foreskin? Genesis 17:10 commands circumcision. Couldn't god just make us right the first time? Along the same lines, why do men have nipples? God in the bible seems to be a bungling idiot for a human, let alone an all knowing all powerful entity.
@ultim4t32 Well said. His incompetence isn't just restricted to humanity.
If God is so wonderful and made everything, how come horses can't vomit? And as a result can die from something as minor as colic? Not a very intelligent design if you ask me.
@ultim4t32 Well said. His incompetence isn't just restricted to humanity.
If God is so wonderful and made everything, how come horses can't vomit? And as a result can die from something as minor as colic? Not a very intelligent design if you ask me.
@sheikhylian Just because you don't know if a God exists doesn't mean a God doesn't exist. Why would we invent one what? a God? I don't know why people do that.
@couyang95 That is what is called an "argument from ignorance". Just because scientists don't know everything, you can't just stick god in anywhere we have gaps in knowledge. If you have ever earned an advanced degree, you will realize that the more you know, the more you realize you don't know. This doesn't mean stick god in there. That is a non explanation and a desperate attempt to jam a god into science despite ZERO evidence.
@couyang95 Well, you're part of the problem then. In your holy book, it says that God created the Earth in three days and the sun, moon, and stars in one. Why would it take God three days to create this one tiny planet and only one to create the rest of this incomprehensibly big universe?
@couyang95 You are. But you're part of the problem because you hold onto those irrational beliefs regardless of things that contradict them. It makes no sense for a god to create a universe of this size for one species of ape on one tiny planet in the outer arm of one galaxy.
@werebee What is the problem here? Is it a problem to disagree? Or is it irrational to assume that you know God's plan for man? Is it irrational to believe that this carefully created earth only exemplifies His love for man? God is purely irrational in our minds. and that's why He's all the more beautiful to me. It doesn't make sense what He does. If God's irrational, more power to Him.
Of course this is all pure speculation and none of this is provable. Atheists and Christians share opposite sides of the same coin. One group believes in a book, the other, totally unprovable scientific theories that could never be falsified. Poo on both of you.
@antichyrst123 This is all provable. These planets have been verified, and one day someone might be able to plant their boots onto one of them. What are you then? A nihilist or an "agnostic"?
@werebee I'm someone that doesn't hold "beliefs" period. No beliefs in religion, and no beliefs in particular scientific theories. There's no reason to have beliefs at all.
@antichyrst123 I don't even understand how that's possible, but you're an atheist if you don't believe there is a god. Believing that scientific facts and theories aren't true has nothing to do with atheism or theism.
@werebee I dont' know--I dont have faith in a god because there's no reason for me to have faith in one. That doesn't mean I'm totally opposed to the idea of a god, it's simply that I don't have that "trust" in beliefs that a Christian or Muslim would. Why should "god" get the benefit of the doubt? I wish there WAS an all-loving deity that loved everyone. But I don't see it. The world is a cruel place.
@antichyrst123 Yes, and that makes you an atheist. Atheism isn't the claim that there is no god, it's only the lack of belief that there is one. Just like theism isn't the claim that there is certainly a god, (though many theists do claim that) it's merely the belief that there is one.
@antichyrst123 Of course you'd like to. Most everyone would like to believe there is a god that would give everyone eternal bliss. Except for...you know...the people that don't agree with you and that you don't like. I'm looking at you, Christians.
@antichyrst123 Also, you seem to be under the impression that scientific theories are just scientists saying "This is how it happens! We just know it does and we're saying it does because DURR HURR." Theories in science are heavily tested and consistently have the same results. There's evidence for theories that are put forth, and it is possible to test them.
@werebee I seem to be limited to 200 characters in a comment. YouTube is limiting my responses. If we take an experiment, lets say the gold foil experiment--it does not prove the atomic model.
@werebee I can say the same thing for the heliocentric model of the solar system. It cannot be proven. Or like evolution--I believe in the fact of it, but not the theory necessarily.
@antichyrst123 It can be proven that the planets orbit the sun because we can observe it. And evolution is corroborated by biology, genetics, and fossils. Saying that all beliefs are irrational, or even that it is possible to have no beliefs at all is silly. If you are a thinking person, you have beliefs, whether you like it or not.
@werebee I can't seem to have faith in "god" no matter what I do. If we assume God, we should also assume he could be pure evil rather than good. Therefore, I don't have any faith.
@werebee I could believe in something, but there would be no evidence for it. Therefore, I believe in nothing. That's the only rational response to belief systems.
If anything, your video supports the creationist view of our universe. Our God is so amazing, so awesome, so spectacular that He created the entire universe (of which, your video claims, scientists can only scratch the surface of) to declare His ultimate and unquestionable GLORY. He is the ultimate designer. And it is a very intelligent design as the pictures in your video show so well. And yet, God claims that we, humans, are his greatest creation. Now that is mind-blowing.
@sarmil76 It's sad that I believe you're serious. There was once a time when I thought comments like yours were just trolling because I couldn't believe that humans could be that dumb. If God is so great and created the whole universe, including us, why did he fuck up so bad creating us? You can't deny that we're all screw-ups. God clearly either didn't create us, or is completely incompetent.
@venusbrain You are absolutely correct, we are all screw-ups, but we only have ourselves to blame for that. Choices we make lead us to where we are and where we are going. You can't blame God for stupid decisions we make. But through His love and mercy, we can still be redeemed from the screw-ups we all eventually become. And no, I'm not trolling ;-), I believe in God as our creator. Will never question it and will never be swayed.
@sarmil76 Choices? Love? Mercy? FUCK YOU! I was born with part of my skull missing. Do you think I chose that? Is that loving or merciful? I am living proof of one or more of the following: 1) God does not exist. 2) God did not create me. 3) God is incompetent as a creator. 4) God is a supreme dickhead, not loving nor merciful.
@venusbrain I am so very sorry that you have had a rough life due to something you had no control over. But God did not "do" that to you. The fact that you are clearly a survivor, someone who has no mental impairment at all (not to offend) shows that God is loving and merciful. Bitterness, however, is soul destroying. Also, you can't be angry at something you don't believe exists. I suggest you ask God why? The answer may surprise you.
Which god? There are thousands out there, and not a single religious fanatic has EVER been able to prove his own assertions. Did you ever wonder why 99% of ALL religious fanatics, including you, have the exact same religion as their parents? I can tell you - brainwashing and childhood indoctrination. But i guess those 2 things constitute evidence for you.
@sarmil76 OK, you've made a feeble attempt at justifying your claim that "God" is loving and merciful. Even if "surviving" through a life of pain is mercy, you must be admitting that he's incompetent or didn't create me. A competent and loving "God" wouldn't have created somebody with such terrible problems to overcome. If you can't resolve this paradox, the only rational conclusion is that there is no "God" as you describe.
@sarmil76 Also, who the fuck said I'm angry at God? I'm angry at assholes like you trying to convince me that my life of pain and suffering is the result of some omnipotent being's benevolence. I'm angry at dimwits trying to convince me that I was created but my creator isn't responsible for how I was made. You're right about one thing; I have no mental impairments. You, however, do. I will not tolerate your kind of bullshit.
@sarmil76 "your video supports the creationist view of our universe.” --> how so? The universe is big, vast and awe-inspiering. Where are the facts that verify the creationist viewpoint?
@BaneOfAzrael Exactly. It is the fact that the universe is so big and vast and awe inspiring that it could only be created by an intelligent designer. It certainly wasn't some happy accident.
@sarmil76 " It is the fact that the universe is so big and vast and awe inspiring that it could only be created by an intelligent designer” --> wrong. this is what we call a non sequitur
Its when you make a statement that does not logically work out.
you start with a fact: ie. "Strawberrys are red.”
and then conclude with some BS claim and pretend its true: So the magical gnomes that eat them are blue!”
If I made that claim I would have to provide evidence for the magic Gnomes
@BaneOfAzrael that's true, but we're not making such claims. What we Christians are claiming is that if it takes a designer and creator to make something as simple as a can opener, how much more something as vast and complex as the universe? Most Atheists accuse Christians of not using logic but really, how logical is it to believe that the universe, in all it's complexity and obvious design, came about by mere chance? I think even Plato and Aristotle would call that illogical.
“complexity” sure --> but there are lots of complex things that happen without an intelligent creator
“by mere chance?” -> this is false framing, why only the two options?
"creator to make something as simple as a can opener, how much more something as vast and complex as the universe? “ --> then this is essentially an argument from ignorance.
@BaneOfAzrael first) so the fact that the earth is in just the right place doesn't show any signs of design?
second) ok, just for clarification, name one.
third) what would you say? give me more options to choose from. but really those are the only two, either someone/thing created it or it created itself.
Fourth) No, it's not an argument from ignorance to look at one example and apply it to another. it's the result of rational thought, just like the conclusions you come to are.
so the fact that the earth is in just the right place doesn't show any signs of design?) --> Nope. How do you figure?
ok, just for clarification, name one.) --> well there are options like its a natural process, If we want to pull in supernatural ones, the buddhist or hindu perspective is interesting, We have string theory, etc.
@Cloudstrife112233 "No, it's not an argument from ignorance to look at one example and apply it to another.” --> yes it is,
IE. Look at a carving. Its so beautiful and compex. It must have had an intelegent artist, We know this!
Look at that clif by the ocean, It also looks carved and designed. it is awe inspiring! It must have an intelligent artist, after all, less grad sculptures have them.
Fact: natrual process formed the cliffs (erosion), If you don’t know this, while drawing the assumption that an artist must have done so based purely on your limited understanding while “logical” is still a fallacy because its an argument form ignorance.
@BaneOfAzrael That is true, that's good example, but it's different when referring to the creation of the natural world AND it's processes. Before the universe existed there were no natural laws, correct? well, how did those laws come into being? are there any laws that weren't made from intelligence? (and I mean by simply using thought process, not whether they're smart laws) of course not, the laws have to first be designed by someone. so why not the natural laws of the universe?
@Cloudstrife112233 "are there any laws that weren't made from intelligence?” --> As far as we know natural laws are just that: natural. Without a creator.
Saying that Since people created laws, and people are intelligent, there must be an intelligent law giver for natural laws is like the Cliff & Carving comparison.
@BaneOfAzrael No, not really. it's funny how to me it's so simple and I think it should be so easy for you to understand and it's the same way for you I'll wager, lol. can we just agree that we're most likely not going to make much ground on the matter? I've really enjoyed this. I like hearing the arguments from the other side. it keeps me thinking, as I hope it helps you.
@Cloudstrife112233 Now, there is a chance you might find a cliff which was actually carved by intelligence, but thats something that needs to be established via evidence.
Just like with the natural laws. There could be something behind them, but without evidence, the claim is useless.
@sarmil76 " it could only be created by an intelligent designer” --> This is your BS claim. You must prove this for it to be considered Fact.
" It certainly wasn't some happy accident.” --> this is you trying to frame the argument in your favour by pretending that these are the only two options. and “accident” would imply a creator who didn’t do it on purpose.
@Vierzbanator You can say creationists are ignorant, but in turn, so are atheists. You state that Christians won't take in evidence and reject "fact" and don't listen, but the same could be said about atheists as well. If I were you, I would think first before making such a bold statement that can be turned around so easily.
@Dannysaurusrex91 You fail to understand that conventional creationism is inherently based on a rejection of facts. What facts do atheists inherently reject?
@Dannysaurusrex91 "You can say creationists are ignorant, but in turn, so are atheists.” --> how so?
"I would think first before making such a bold statement that can be turned around so easily.” --> just because you can turn something around doesn’t mean that the statement is correct.
I look back at a time I was a theist, a creationist. I look at things like this now with an open mind, and it's moments like this when I can only slightly comprehend how giant and amazing the universe is... those are moments that I'm glad to be an atheist.
@venusbrain "You can't blame God for stupid decisions we make. But through His love and mercy, we can still be redeemed from the screw-ups we all eventually become. And no, I'm not trolling ;-), I believe in God as our creator. Will never question it and will never be swayed. " That's from another comment on this video. You have a point.
@schootingstarr Same here, especially since I always thought Universe meant Everything. Apparently, the nothingness of space isn't exactly nothing any more, either.
Wow. Just wow, And still creationists persist with their nonsense.
nanarockband 1 hour ago
misleading title!
creationists don't fail again because their in a perpetual state of fail! XD
fantastic video :)
DemoraX 13 hours ago
@redsirius508 Ummm. Hydrogen is the most common element in the universe and oxygen is the 3rd. So I guess its pretty logical to assume water is pretty common in the universe. Since water is H2O. Water was even found on the moon.
TazingAsians 21 hours ago
Creationists don't except the theory of evolution because its a theory. Well gravity is a theory too. Do angels hold us by our feet so we dont fly away?
AvenueEmpire 1 day ago
@AvenueEmpire ... I choose not to believe in the Theory of Music, or the Theory of Biochemistry. And those possibly don't exist. :B
PrinceOfPlease 1 day ago
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Only question remaining, when will we have a few hundred satellites like Kepler (and even more advanced) up there? We have the skills, we have the buck.
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Only question remaining, when will we have a few hundred satellites like Kepler (and even more advanced) up in the sky? We have the skills, we have the buck.
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Only question remaining, when will we have a few hundred satellites like Kepler (and even more advanced) up in the sky? We have the skills, we have the buck.
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Only question remaining, when will we have a few hundred satellites like Kepler (and even more advanced) up in the sky? We have the skills, we have the buck.
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redsirius508 2 days ago
and don't pick on the grammar in my passages because i wrote them pretty quickly. They are not in such bad state you that can't understand what i'm saying.
redsirius508 2 days ago
@redsirius508 Actually, it is that bad. Take your time and write you ideas clearly. You seem to be a froth at the mouth imbicile creationist who doesn't understand what is being discussed. An exoplanet(GJ1214b) is a waterworld, so I think it would be wise if you followed you own advice and did some research before making a mockery of yourself. I'd address you other points, if they had made any sense.
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@personEks FYI this planet is tidal locked(only one side of it sees the sun causing temperature extremes on either side.) If evolutionary biology is upheld life can only be found on the edge between the dark and the light side of the planet. This exponetially decreases the chances of life. Much unlike europa where you are more likely to find life than on this planet. so you better check your on facts stupid "imbecile". so go ahead and stick something up your ass. thank you XD
redsirius508 2 days ago
@personEks guess you got nothing to say. btw i checked out your favs,even though we may not agree on this I love the work anonymous and wiki leaks is doing
redsirius508 2 days ago
@redsirius508 I just said something to which you seen oblivious to. If you'd like to clarify some of the assertions you made, I'll happily address them. Have you checked out GJ1214b yet?
personEks 2 days ago
@personEks that is what i was talking about you stupid son of a bitch check your fact s please please check them before you reply. Please for everybody's sake .
redsirius508 2 days ago
@personEks or at least read the comments you reply to.
redsirius508 2 days ago
@redsirius508 Um... you need to present you points in a comprehensible way before it is possible to read them. You failed to do that. Have you checked out GJ1214b yet?
personEks 2 days ago
@personEks I don even know how to say this to you. the planet is tidal locked I've talked to professors in astronomy at UT where I study particle physics/ architectural engineering and they told me this you are more likely to find life on europa than on GJ1214b. You uneducated asshole. I've read the full length 135 page report on this. So shut the fuckup before you make your self look like an more of an ass than your already are.
redsirius508 2 days ago
@redsirius508 You are the one who looks like an ass with your use of profanity. Wipe the froth from your mouth and present the points you failed to articulate.
personEks 2 days ago
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@personEks How do I put this i articulated my point here "this planet is tidal locked(only one side of it sees the sun causing temperature extremes on either side.) If evolutionary biology is upheld, life can only be found on the edge between the dark and the light side of the planet. This exponetially decreases the chances of life. Much unlike europa where you are more likely to find life than on this planet(GJ1214b)" this is from my prev. comment you waste of space
redsirius508 2 days ago
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@redsirius508 "Your basing your whole video on incomplete theories scientist have only confirmed relativity and quantum mechanics but so far they couldn't even tie it together string theory is still incomplete and there is a strong lack of evidence so far. And your whole drivel of multiple universes is a possibility it can't be even proven you dum shit"-a particle physicist. You must have flunked in epic fashion. You shouldn't go knocking on the English departments door either.
personEks 2 days ago
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@redsirius508 "Even when consider evolution our planet theoretically need the right amino acids which developed from millions upon millions of years of electromagnetic forces(lightning strikes) and heat to form the first dan strand which is still pretty hard to explain in itself" - clarification please.
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@redsirius508 "What i'm saying is we don't have close to enough data or evidence to support your claim. For goodness scientists only understand 4.6% of it the rest is dark energy and dark matter and this theory actually has some evidence" -clarification please.
personEks 2 days ago
@redsirius508 Clarification? I know it's dificult to make bullshit clear, but give it a shot. You're studying particle physics, so it should be a walk in the park for you.
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redsirius508 1 day ago
@personEks Apparently, you don't understand anything beyond that of a 12 year old's comprehension. Basically,GJ1214b is a planet that moves around its sun. just like the earth but its spin is the same as the moon in principle (due to how the moon spins we only see one side of the moon this called being tidal locked.)This principle applies to this planet,one side gets a sun throughout its orbital cycle and become very hot while the other is cold because this planet is in tidal lock with its sun.
redsirius508 1 day ago
@personEks this means life can only exist in the narrow edge between the night side and the day side of the planet. Thus decreasing the probability of life exponentially from 10% to a mere .000004% and this why your are more likely by a mere again .0003 to find life on europa( one of jupiter's moons) with a icy surface and liquid oceans underneath heated by gravitational friction caused by Jupiter's gravity.
redsirius508 1 day ago
@personEks you are an imbecile who apparently lacks any understanding of astronomy or physics or anything resembling the sort. You make incredulous assertions due to your mind's lack of intelligence and an abundance of mush. Thus you are nothing more than a worthless piece of garbage probably born to even more worth pieces of garbage. Useless to society or rest of mankind.
redsirius508 1 day ago
@personEks Apparently the work of hundreds of scientist from NASA and many research universities is bullshit to this jackass.
redsirius508 1 day ago
@redsirius508 "wtf you dumass do you understand the probability of having water on those planets the basic necessity for life" -this was just barely comprehensible and I'm happy that you have(amungst you frothing volly of insults) at least have conceded that there is water beyond our planet. Now if only you'd stop the tap dance and clarify you other points like I asked or ar you to riddled with rage to clarify them?
personEks 1 day ago
@personEks do you understand they have not confirmed there is water on that planet using a probe they have use spectral imaging to see a steamy hot planet possibly rocky possibly containing water its not even confirmed look at the report before you talk you insolent bitch. You dumbass bitch you just lost the argument.
redsirius508 1 day ago
@personEks you can barely understand your own frothing volley of insults and you can't comprehend anything go and learn some basic physics and astronomy before you talk. What points are there to clarify.
redsirius508 1 day ago
@personEks there is still no uniting theory between quantum mechanics and relativity/ universal gravitation. String theory that unites the two but is incomplete because there were too many equations. the multiple dimensions are true to an extent but there is no proof yet these claims in this video are going into the area of theoretical physics which is still being tested and changed constantly. that i guess addresses my other points.
redsirius508 1 day ago
@redsirius508 so i guess you conceded defeat! xD
redsirius508 15 hours ago
@redsirius508 = fail.
personEks 2 days ago
Even when consider evolution our planet theoretically need the right amino acids which developed from millions upon millions of years of electromagnetic forces(lightning strikes) and heat to form the first dan strand which is still pretty hard to explain in itself so please take the time to lookup information and facts before you make a mockery out of your self.
redsirius508 2 days ago
What i'm saying is we don't have close to enough data or evidence to support your claim. For goodness scientists only understand 4.6% of it the rest is dark energy and dark matter and this theory actually has some evidence so before you rule out the creationists read up on your facts and try to understand your information stupid shit.
redsirius508 2 days ago
wtf you dumass do you understand the probability of having water on those planets the basic necessity for life . Your basing your whole video on incomplete theories scientist have only confirmed relativity and quantum mechanics but so far they couldn't even tie it together string theory is still incomplete and there is a strong lack of evidence so far. And your whole drivel of multiple universes is a possibility it can't be even proven you dum shit. I am not saying there is or is not a God
redsirius508 2 days ago
Awesome video. I don't know any creationists who would agree that earth is the ONLY planet in the "Goldilocks Zone" but I sure believe I AM special to live in one. Thanks God!
jseamster 3 days ago
Oh wow, this video gave me goosebumps...
JaggLion 3 days ago
Just a quick note: I'm not christian, I'm agnostic, I believe in some sort of higher power or consciousness, I don't exactly disbelieve in evolution, though I don't believe in a big bang.
Do I believe in an almighty god that sees and knows all and created everything? No, I think that's a tad bit ridiculous. Do I believe that there are beings out there that are beyond our understanding, and may have helped shape things? Yeah, I do, so call me an idiot but that's what I believe.
tehdarkswordsman 4 days ago
I suppose it's sad that after watching this I can't quite let go of my beliefs.
tehdarkswordsman 4 days ago
@tehdarkswordsman The more you learn, the more you'll find those beliefs hard to hold on to. Some people think this is tragic, but I think that letting go of those mistaken, misguided childhood beliefs was the best thing that could have happened to me. (In clarification: For me, they really were childhood beliefs. I left creationism behind when I was 17.)
arethkyntaul 4 days ago
@tehdarkswordsman Not sad. Not believing in an organized religion is the most important step, as agnostics don't cause the worlds violence. However you are not truly an agnostic. From what you described I would classify you as a weak theist. An agnostic believes that one can truly not know either way. In essence, all science adhering atheists are also at least 0.1% agnostic.
Another consideration - the Big Bang doesn't require atheism - as one could argue that a god caused it
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@tehdarkswordsman At least your thinking about it, questioning it, that's a start.
1991stratplus 3 days ago
@tehdarkswordsman Just open your mind, your sure to notice many things that don't really go well with what the bible claims and go against actually study that's being done in the world.
I know it may be hard to let go after beliving it for a good ammount of time, but that's only natural, just give yourself time to think about what you want to belive in.
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this movie looks pretty fun, based on evolution vs. creation, I like the fact that just 2 brothers made the entire thing, called EVOLUTION CREEK, look it up!
chauncyhead 4 days ago
this video just made me feel a few things,
humility and curiosity beyond imagination. i want to live forever and be on the spaceships that go visit these new worlds and see them for my own eyes. but i am mortal and will never see new worlds....how sad...
eidius1989 4 days ago
@eidius1989, Not to be depressing. But I doubt our species will ever leave this solor system. Example: Mars is like looking at the skeleton of a animal, containing millions of mysteries and resources. But, our species doesnt make it an important effort to get to Mars, why? No money is gonna get made.. yet.
AvenueEmpire 4 days ago
Awww is that it? Lol smh
Fightfortruth84 4 days ago
Its so depressing knowing there's just so much out there that we can't ever see.
Maisy2499 5 days ago
i want to go to another earth
mrjo0e1 6 days ago
lol this is a sad attempt!
Fightfortruth84 6 days ago
@Fightfortruth84 Your comment is a sad attempt.
BPMification 5 days ago
This video motherfucking wins.
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Such size and beauty that we see in the universe is only more proof of our Lord Zeus O Almighty - typical Creationist response.
Y2KillerSPOOBLY 6 days ago
it's soo crazy to think how big the universe really is....
TheHolyphantom 1 week ago
70 more comments since you started viewing 0__0
tarantulaTEP 1 week ago
@tarantulaTEP That's just youtube being wonky. It's been doing that same thing for a while now, and every time one tells it to display these comments, it becomes obvious that they're from hours or days before on started viewing.
palerider1775 6 days ago
omg I totally wanna see life on other planets! But they're so far away... Why must we be so far away?
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SuperFlameRing 1 week ago 16
People love to feel special!
That's exactly why they love to keep their claims, has long has they remain "Important" in some manner of way, they shall stick to their version of infinite boredom and complete nonsense.
Eventually...People are afraid to admit that their importance is kinda the same has a microbe...Because it will deprive them of their delusion of superiority.
The key to this- is that they got the world from some perspective, they are afraid to lose their tiny dead emotion of order.
Wharwulif 1 week ago
the hell did i get here from a ron paul video...?
enkay12 1 week ago
We who are not creationists can rest assured in only one fact, that since we are only one in billions ... we can have hope that most of the other billions of worlds that have life never have the lameness that is creationism.
KittenKoder 1 week ago
Jesus went to the other millions of inhabited planets and died for their sins. Jesus was/ is being crucified millions of times.
beyondbeyondness 1 week ago
@beyondbeyondness Well...Has J.C Denton has foretold:
What a shame.
Wharwulif 1 week ago
It is very obvious that the Earth and the universe was not made for us.
beyondbeyondness 1 week ago
@beyondbeyondness It's even more obvious to see that Us is more of a side affect within a side affect within a side affect within a....(So on).
Wharwulif 1 week ago
Absolutely mind blowing to even attempt to contemplate the vast scale of the universe. Who needs a deity to inspire awe when you can just look up at the sky on a clear night.
Spiderpope 1 week ago
@Spiderpope Who needs a sky or a deity? there are enough tiny universes within the Insanely-sub-universe within each tiny fraction of every part of existence.
So...Even a fart can give incredible amounts of awe =P
Wharwulif 1 week ago
@Wharwulif I tried contemplating sub atomic scales, it made my head hurt.
Spiderpope 1 week ago
My short existence is very precious to me. I soak up all life and the amazing world has to offer because it is finite. I have a great sense of peace and well being without God. This enrages my fanatic in-laws because it just doesn't bother me what they think what will happen to me and my 9y/o non believing son. We are grounded in reality and happy to be there. The God in someone's mind just doesn't bother me.
paramattic70 1 week ago
I don't blame God for anything because there is no God. God exists within the mind of the believer, therefore I am not subject to his imaginary rules. I am not going to be judged or punished by someone's imaginary God. I am humble enough to realize that I am just a spec in this vast universe and nothing was created or designed for me. It would show immense conceit, arrogance and ignorance to think otherwise.
paramattic70 1 week ago
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When did Atheist get redefined as Ass-to-Theists?
I don't believe in Krishna, but you don't see me wasting my time to make videos that insult Krishna and make enemies of his followers.
You are not an atheist, you are just anti christian, and you should really get over it and heal.
"Atheists" like you are just reactionaries, because 1 religious person hurt you in the past.
Stop lashing out at the 99.9% of Christians that did NOT hurt you and would NOT hurt you. I bet one is praying for you now.
BarbieBoy1997 1 week ago
Well, Goldilocks still hasn't found anyone to talk to. If statistical probability indicates your friends are out there, why haven't we heard from them? Maybe GOD doesn't think we're very good playmates?
hamzah938 1 week ago
@hamzah938 Because of the immense distances between planets, maybe? You're kidding, right?
werebee 1 week ago
WOW I'm a Christian and this only reaffirms my beliefs in God and how enormous and powerful He is. Yay :)
couyang95 1 week ago
@couyang95 Is there anything that wouldn't reaffirm a person's belief in god? I agree, a god that created trillions of planets with billions upon billions of other earths is very concerned about pork and shellfish consumption and gay people. He would describe the earth as if it sits on pillars. He would describe space as a cloth shroud with pinholes in it. He would need days and days to make the earth and its inhabitants separate from the trillions of other planets and stars made in one day.
ultim4t32 1 week ago
@ultim4t32 Pork and shellfish consumption? what? Yes, He loves gay people just as He loves straight people. Anyways, it's a common misconception that God wants to make people straight. If you're going to judge God, atleast judge Him for who He really is...
couyang95 1 week ago
@couyang95 God set out rules of what are good to eat. Pork and shellfish are abominations and should not be eaten. And somehow I don't think that ordering people to stone those who lie with a man as one lies with a woman is very loving.
werebee 1 week ago
@werebee I think you're mistaken by misinterpreting the context and history of the Bible and God. I eat pork nearly every single day. Anyways, I don't believe in such a God that orders people to stone those who are gay.
couyang95 1 week ago
@couyang95 "If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13) So you don't believe in the God of the Bible?
werebee 1 week ago
@werebee I do. Leviticus 20:10 If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Jesus also says, "But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart, Matt 5:28" Looks like we ALL should die right?
couyang95 1 week ago
@couyang95 According to Yahweh, yes.
werebee 1 week ago
@werebee YES. You're absolutely right. We're all in the same boat and we all deserve death. James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it. --> we're accountable for even one sin and have failed terribly. However, is the law sin? No: Romans 7:7-25. BUT Jesus "entered once for all in into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption" Hebrews 9:11-10:18
couyang95 1 week ago
@werebee He came to fulfill the law - Matt.5:17. and we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified. (Gal2:16) AND the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. (Rom 12:8)
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ultim4t32 1 week ago
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@couyang95 The bible commands people not to eat pork and shellfish.
Also are you really going to try and argue that god doesn't condemn love between gay people as a sin? I was immersed in christianity and was a christian for 25 years of my life, I think I know who god is at this point.
ultim4t32 1 week ago
@ultim4t32 You've mistaken the context and history of the Bible and God. I eat pork almost everyday. 3 minutes ago to be exact. Do you really know God? God also condemns a selfish thought as a sin. If this is true, everyone including me should be condemned and in hell. So we're all in the same boat are we not?
couyang95 1 week ago
@couyang95 Yes, I know the "interpretation" on any scripture can be changed to justify any belief or retroactively create a fulfilled prophecy etc. That is the beauty of a book written as nebulously as the bible. I know christians believe that no one that is a "real" christian can ever change their mind. Do you think "thought crime" is a moral thing? How can you control what you think? The bible commands not to lust after a woman in your heart. If you aren't gay, good luck with that one
ultim4t32 1 week ago
@couyang95 On a side note, why did god create foreskin, then command us to cut it off? Pretty sick if you ask me.
ultim4t32 1 week ago
@ultim4t32 lol.... ummm. Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love. 6:16 For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation. Colossians 3:11 Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; but Christ is all and in all.
couyang95 1 week ago
@couyang95 The question still remains, why do men have foreskin? Genesis 17:10 commands circumcision. Couldn't god just make us right the first time? Along the same lines, why do men have nipples? God in the bible seems to be a bungling idiot for a human, let alone an all knowing all powerful entity.
ultim4t32 1 week ago
@ultim4t32 Well said. His incompetence isn't just restricted to humanity.
If God is so wonderful and made everything, how come horses can't vomit? And as a result can die from something as minor as colic? Not a very intelligent design if you ask me.
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@ultim4t32 Well said. His incompetence isn't just restricted to humanity.
If God is so wonderful and made everything, how come horses can't vomit? And as a result can die from something as minor as colic? Not a very intelligent design if you ask me.
Spiderpope 1 week ago
@ultim4t32 God fails in so many ways.
beyondbeyondness 1 week ago
@ultim4t32 Are you God? Just because you don't know the reason doesn't mean there isn't a reason.
couyang95 1 week ago
@couyang95 Nobody is god...He is not real and your statement makes no sense.
itchygonads 1 week ago
@itchygonads Maybe it's because I was in the middle of a conversation and responding to someone... lol. Very well, you have your beliefs.
couyang95 1 week ago
@couyang95 I read some of your comments however. Beliefs are different from observable truths. One day you may see. peace.
itchygonads 1 week ago
@couyang95 So? Do we have to invent one?
sheikhylian 1 week ago
@sheikhylian Just because you don't know if a God exists doesn't mean a God doesn't exist. Why would we invent one what? a God? I don't know why people do that.
couyang95 1 week ago
@couyang95 That is what is called an "argument from ignorance". Just because scientists don't know everything, you can't just stick god in anywhere we have gaps in knowledge. If you have ever earned an advanced degree, you will realize that the more you know, the more you realize you don't know. This doesn't mean stick god in there. That is a non explanation and a desperate attempt to jam a god into science despite ZERO evidence.
ultim4t32 1 week ago
@couyang95 Well, you're part of the problem then. In your holy book, it says that God created the Earth in three days and the sun, moon, and stars in one. Why would it take God three days to create this one tiny planet and only one to create the rest of this incomprehensibly big universe?
werebee 1 week ago
@werebee Why am I part of the problem? You are subject to your own beliefs
couyang95 1 week ago
@couyang95 You are. But you're part of the problem because you hold onto those irrational beliefs regardless of things that contradict them. It makes no sense for a god to create a universe of this size for one species of ape on one tiny planet in the outer arm of one galaxy.
werebee 1 week ago
@werebee What is the problem here? Is it a problem to disagree? Or is it irrational to assume that you know God's plan for man? Is it irrational to believe that this carefully created earth only exemplifies His love for man? God is purely irrational in our minds. and that's why He's all the more beautiful to me. It doesn't make sense what He does. If God's irrational, more power to Him.
couyang95 1 week ago
Of course this is all pure speculation and none of this is provable. Atheists and Christians share opposite sides of the same coin. One group believes in a book, the other, totally unprovable scientific theories that could never be falsified. Poo on both of you.
antichyrst123 1 week ago
@antichyrst123 This is all provable. These planets have been verified, and one day someone might be able to plant their boots onto one of them. What are you then? A nihilist or an "agnostic"?
werebee 1 week ago
@werebee I'm someone that doesn't hold "beliefs" period. No beliefs in religion, and no beliefs in particular scientific theories. There's no reason to have beliefs at all.
antichyrst123 1 week ago
@antichyrst123 I don't even understand how that's possible, but you're an atheist if you don't believe there is a god. Believing that scientific facts and theories aren't true has nothing to do with atheism or theism.
werebee 1 week ago
@werebee I dont' know--I dont have faith in a god because there's no reason for me to have faith in one. That doesn't mean I'm totally opposed to the idea of a god, it's simply that I don't have that "trust" in beliefs that a Christian or Muslim would. Why should "god" get the benefit of the doubt? I wish there WAS an all-loving deity that loved everyone. But I don't see it. The world is a cruel place.
antichyrst123 1 week ago
@antichyrst123 Yes, and that makes you an atheist. Atheism isn't the claim that there is no god, it's only the lack of belief that there is one. Just like theism isn't the claim that there is certainly a god, (though many theists do claim that) it's merely the belief that there is one.
werebee 1 week ago
@werebee And maybe it does. But I'd LIKE to believe there' s a god that loves people. I just don't see the EVIDENCE for it...
antichyrst123 1 week ago
@antichyrst123 Of course you'd like to. Most everyone would like to believe there is a god that would give everyone eternal bliss. Except for...you know...the people that don't agree with you and that you don't like. I'm looking at you, Christians.
werebee 1 week ago
@antichyrst123 Also, you seem to be under the impression that scientific theories are just scientists saying "This is how it happens! We just know it does and we're saying it does because DURR HURR." Theories in science are heavily tested and consistently have the same results. There's evidence for theories that are put forth, and it is possible to test them.
werebee 1 week ago
@werebee I seem to be limited to 200 characters in a comment. YouTube is limiting my responses. If we take an experiment, lets say the gold foil experiment--it does not prove the atomic model.
antichyrst123 1 week ago
@werebee I can say the same thing for the heliocentric model of the solar system. It cannot be proven. Or like evolution--I believe in the fact of it, but not the theory necessarily.
antichyrst123 1 week ago
@antichyrst123 It can be proven that the planets orbit the sun because we can observe it. And evolution is corroborated by biology, genetics, and fossils. Saying that all beliefs are irrational, or even that it is possible to have no beliefs at all is silly. If you are a thinking person, you have beliefs, whether you like it or not.
werebee 1 week ago
@werebee I can't seem to have faith in "god" no matter what I do. If we assume God, we should also assume he could be pure evil rather than good. Therefore, I don't have any faith.
antichyrst123 1 week ago
@antichyrst123 And therefore you're an agnostic atheist.
werebee 1 week ago
@werebee I could believe in something, but there would be no evidence for it. Therefore, I believe in nothing. That's the only rational response to belief systems.
antichyrst123 1 week ago
If anything, your video supports the creationist view of our universe. Our God is so amazing, so awesome, so spectacular that He created the entire universe (of which, your video claims, scientists can only scratch the surface of) to declare His ultimate and unquestionable GLORY. He is the ultimate designer. And it is a very intelligent design as the pictures in your video show so well. And yet, God claims that we, humans, are his greatest creation. Now that is mind-blowing.
sarmil76 1 week ago
@sarmil76 It's sad that I believe you're serious. There was once a time when I thought comments like yours were just trolling because I couldn't believe that humans could be that dumb. If God is so great and created the whole universe, including us, why did he fuck up so bad creating us? You can't deny that we're all screw-ups. God clearly either didn't create us, or is completely incompetent.
venusbrain 1 week ago
@venusbrain You are absolutely correct, we are all screw-ups, but we only have ourselves to blame for that. Choices we make lead us to where we are and where we are going. You can't blame God for stupid decisions we make. But through His love and mercy, we can still be redeemed from the screw-ups we all eventually become. And no, I'm not trolling ;-), I believe in God as our creator. Will never question it and will never be swayed.
sarmil76 1 week ago
@sarmil76 You make me sad. So be it.
werebee 1 week ago
@sarmil76 Choices? Love? Mercy? FUCK YOU! I was born with part of my skull missing. Do you think I chose that? Is that loving or merciful? I am living proof of one or more of the following: 1) God does not exist. 2) God did not create me. 3) God is incompetent as a creator. 4) God is a supreme dickhead, not loving nor merciful.
venusbrain 1 week ago
@venusbrain I am so very sorry that you have had a rough life due to something you had no control over. But God did not "do" that to you. The fact that you are clearly a survivor, someone who has no mental impairment at all (not to offend) shows that God is loving and merciful. Bitterness, however, is soul destroying. Also, you can't be angry at something you don't believe exists. I suggest you ask God why? The answer may surprise you.
sarmil76 1 week ago
@sarmil76
Which god? There are thousands out there, and not a single religious fanatic has EVER been able to prove his own assertions. Did you ever wonder why 99% of ALL religious fanatics, including you, have the exact same religion as their parents? I can tell you - brainwashing and childhood indoctrination. But i guess those 2 things constitute evidence for you.
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venusbrain 1 week ago
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@sarmil76 OK, you've made a feeble attempt at justifying your claim that "God" is loving and merciful. Even if "surviving" through a life of pain is mercy, you must be admitting that he's incompetent or didn't create me. A competent and loving "God" wouldn't have created somebody with such terrible problems to overcome. If you can't resolve this paradox, the only rational conclusion is that there is no "God" as you describe.
venusbrain 1 week ago
@sarmil76 Also, who the fuck said I'm angry at God? I'm angry at assholes like you trying to convince me that my life of pain and suffering is the result of some omnipotent being's benevolence. I'm angry at dimwits trying to convince me that I was created but my creator isn't responsible for how I was made. You're right about one thing; I have no mental impairments. You, however, do. I will not tolerate your kind of bullshit.
venusbrain 1 week ago
@sarmil76 "your video supports the creationist view of our universe.” --> how so? The universe is big, vast and awe-inspiering. Where are the facts that verify the creationist viewpoint?
BaneOfAzrael 1 week ago
@BaneOfAzrael Exactly. It is the fact that the universe is so big and vast and awe inspiring that it could only be created by an intelligent designer. It certainly wasn't some happy accident.
sarmil76 1 week ago
@sarmil76 " It is the fact that the universe is so big and vast and awe inspiring that it could only be created by an intelligent designer” --> wrong. this is what we call a non sequitur
Its when you make a statement that does not logically work out.
you start with a fact: ie. "Strawberrys are red.”
and then conclude with some BS claim and pretend its true: So the magical gnomes that eat them are blue!”
If I made that claim I would have to provide evidence for the magic Gnomes
BaneOfAzrael 1 week ago
@BaneOfAzrael that's true, but we're not making such claims. What we Christians are claiming is that if it takes a designer and creator to make something as simple as a can opener, how much more something as vast and complex as the universe? Most Atheists accuse Christians of not using logic but really, how logical is it to believe that the universe, in all it's complexity and obvious design, came about by mere chance? I think even Plato and Aristotle would call that illogical.
Cloudstrife112233 1 week ago
@Cloudstrife112233 "obvious design” --> none
“complexity” sure --> but there are lots of complex things that happen without an intelligent creator
“by mere chance?” -> this is false framing, why only the two options?
"creator to make something as simple as a can opener, how much more something as vast and complex as the universe? “ --> then this is essentially an argument from ignorance.
BaneOfAzrael 1 week ago
@BaneOfAzrael first) so the fact that the earth is in just the right place doesn't show any signs of design?
second) ok, just for clarification, name one.
third) what would you say? give me more options to choose from. but really those are the only two, either someone/thing created it or it created itself.
Fourth) No, it's not an argument from ignorance to look at one example and apply it to another. it's the result of rational thought, just like the conclusions you come to are.
Cloudstrife112233 1 week ago
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so the fact that the earth is in just the right place doesn't show any signs of design?) --> Nope. How do you figure?
ok, just for clarification, name one.) --> well there are options like its a natural process, If we want to pull in supernatural ones, the buddhist or hindu perspective is interesting, We have string theory, etc.
BaneOfAzrael 1 week ago
@Cloudstrife112233 "No, it's not an argument from ignorance to look at one example and apply it to another.” --> yes it is,
IE. Look at a carving. Its so beautiful and compex. It must have had an intelegent artist, We know this!
Look at that clif by the ocean, It also looks carved and designed. it is awe inspiring! It must have an intelligent artist, after all, less grad sculptures have them.
BaneOfAzrael 1 week ago
@Cloudstrife112233
Fact: natrual process formed the cliffs (erosion), If you don’t know this, while drawing the assumption that an artist must have done so based purely on your limited understanding while “logical” is still a fallacy because its an argument form ignorance.
BaneOfAzrael 1 week ago
@BaneOfAzrael That is true, that's good example, but it's different when referring to the creation of the natural world AND it's processes. Before the universe existed there were no natural laws, correct? well, how did those laws come into being? are there any laws that weren't made from intelligence? (and I mean by simply using thought process, not whether they're smart laws) of course not, the laws have to first be designed by someone. so why not the natural laws of the universe?
Cloudstrife112233 1 week ago
@Cloudstrife112233 "are there any laws that weren't made from intelligence?” --> As far as we know natural laws are just that: natural. Without a creator.
Saying that Since people created laws, and people are intelligent, there must be an intelligent law giver for natural laws is like the Cliff & Carving comparison.
BaneOfAzrael 1 week ago
@BaneOfAzrael No, not really. it's funny how to me it's so simple and I think it should be so easy for you to understand and it's the same way for you I'll wager, lol. can we just agree that we're most likely not going to make much ground on the matter? I've really enjoyed this. I like hearing the arguments from the other side. it keeps me thinking, as I hope it helps you.
Cloudstrife112233 1 week ago
@Cloudstrife112233 Now, there is a chance you might find a cliff which was actually carved by intelligence, but thats something that needs to be established via evidence.
Just like with the natural laws. There could be something behind them, but without evidence, the claim is useless.
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@sarmil76 " it could only be created by an intelligent designer” --> This is your BS claim. You must prove this for it to be considered Fact.
" It certainly wasn't some happy accident.” --> this is you trying to frame the argument in your favour by pretending that these are the only two options. and “accident” would imply a creator who didn’t do it on purpose.
BaneOfAzrael 1 week ago
You can't argue with creationists, they are too ignorant.
Christians: Won't take in the evidence, they just reject fact and don't listen.
Muslims: They manipulate science and the Quran to make laughable arguments.
Vierzbanator 1 week ago
@Vierzbanator You can say creationists are ignorant, but in turn, so are atheists. You state that Christians won't take in evidence and reject "fact" and don't listen, but the same could be said about atheists as well. If I were you, I would think first before making such a bold statement that can be turned around so easily.
Dannysaurusrex91 1 week ago
@Dannysaurusrex91 You fail to understand that conventional creationism is inherently based on a rejection of facts. What facts do atheists inherently reject?
venusbrain 1 week ago
@Dannysaurusrex91 "You can say creationists are ignorant, but in turn, so are atheists.” --> how so?
"I would think first before making such a bold statement that can be turned around so easily.” --> just because you can turn something around doesn’t mean that the statement is correct.
BaneOfAzrael 1 week ago
It means that an alien jesus is dying for sins of his fellow aliens just right now.
doganaktas 2 weeks ago
I look back at a time I was a theist, a creationist. I look at things like this now with an open mind, and it's moments like this when I can only slightly comprehend how giant and amazing the universe is... those are moments that I'm glad to be an atheist.
koihoshi 2 weeks ago 18
@koihoshi
send me up to the spirit in the sky, its where I wanna go when I die.
Reyaweks 1 week ago
@ray38montreal
Terse and to the point.
All this unlimited universe........and the creationists
strongly believe that the minds of their nomadic
prophets are big enough for it.
Religion is a fact to the public, a lie to thinkers, and
benfitial to rulers.
MegaOnlyme21 2 weeks ago 9
It's not possible to debate with creationists. They are not rational and there fore incable of understanding.
ray38montreal 2 weeks ago
@ray38montreal Debating with a creationist is like trying to teach arithmetic to a tree.
venusbrain 1 week ago
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@venusbrain "You can't blame God for stupid decisions we make. But through His love and mercy, we can still be redeemed from the screw-ups we all eventually become. And no, I'm not trolling ;-), I believe in God as our creator. Will never question it and will never be swayed. " That's from another comment on this video. You have a point.
werebee 1 week ago
I sort of can't imagine a universe besides our universe
but then again, I'm stupid ;)
as we all are
because we're but humans
schootingstarr 2 weeks ago
@schootingstarr Same here, especially since I always thought Universe meant Everything. Apparently, the nothingness of space isn't exactly nothing any more, either.
grant50 1 week ago