i thank u 4 this wonderful talk- so true, we worry about hijab &the length of the beards and make takfir, like islam is about this-Quranic: Allah and his messenger wage a war on usury-b4 hijab, muslims need 2 reestablish the currency & practice of trade-reestablish the taking of zakaah(not giving) within our communities. we make issues out of what the salaf did not demand & ignore what they established first-hence we r mentally backward-worse,we want 2 take away madhab & reinvent the law-sic
i believe that it shows strength of one's personality to cover the hair. but at the same time, Hamza Yusuf said it well..... we have to recognize the time we're in. There are more important things, like holding onto your faith. Even something like that has become an ongoing issue. Its true that many muslim women leave the deen.... because men make it an obsession to constantly make religion about THEM. religion is for everyone... not just women.
@ana97x In fact several hadiths are recorded where Muhammad cancelled verses, changed them, or simply forgot what he had said - leading to Muhammad writing in his Qur'an
2.106
Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it...
Even the man who raised Muhammad (his Uncle) didn't believe him, and his child-bride Aisha expressed doubts about his claims. So it is irrefutable that the Qur'an has NOT been "the same" always.
so much respect for our beautiful sisters who were the hijab. can't imagine the things they go through and the prejudices they endure on a daily basis. and respect to all the other sisters who don't wear the hijab..they're still our sisters :)))) much love xoxo
The hijaab is not important in and of itself, if used for fashion by the sole choice of the woman. This is, most unfortunately, normally not the case.
As always a lecture of brilliance..! I have always wanted men (muslim men) too to put on their skullcaps and walk about as muslims and face the array of abuses and oftentimes unfriendly remarks, gazes and all negative diatribe, and see how it feels to be identified as a muslim. Even with this significant number of muslims in the west one finds it difficult to greet them with Salam in the street cus of their accommodation and identification with the non-muslims culture and attire.
Awrah (private parta) of slave women is from navel to knees which is why they would go around "bare breasted", but this was challenged:
"He (i.e. al-Imam Malik ibn Anas) strongly disapproved of the behaviour of the slave women of al-Madinah in going out uncovered above the lower garment. He said: "I have spoken to the sultan about it, but I have not received a reply." He said: "Beat slave women if they do that. ("Kitab al-Jami" of al-Imam Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani al-Maliki (died 386 AH))
I don't see why americans are digusted by Muslim religion forcing women to be covered, as they have laws about "Indecent exposure". Americans are scared of PENIS! If you are against Hijab, go walk out into the streets with no pants so the world can see your member! Yeah! They can divert their Eyes is they are offended!
Hijab is not in the quran. Women were commanded to legthen their skirts and cover their bosoms. Essentily cover attrative parts like breasts and legs with nice clothes, like a loose blouse and a nice long skirt. You don't cover up and hide individuality. While the hijab is completely fine, it is not a command from God. Merely that is interpretations from hadiths!
GOd never ordered women to cover their heads with hijabs or anything, god in fact said take ur veil or hijab wrap it around your breast area, cover your breasts, because women used to wear veils with open cleavages, it was a fashion thing, you see the indians doing that. they wear head scarfs as a tradition and fashions. god said cover everything except what appears there off. naturally humans hair, hands, necks show, blah :)P so stop teaching wrong things please ppl
EGYPTWHERETo you are an idiot like milions of muslim men out there. Who care about the physical appearance of a women. Instead who she is inside. If you wanna look like a bearded freak with djallibiyah good for you. There is no need to be dressed like a person from the 7th century. You wanna show look at me a real muslim I am the only true muslim. You think you are better then a man who doesnt have a beard. But you are not.
I get stared at, laughed at & I DON"T LOSE FAITH OR NEED COMPASSION WHEN I LEAVE THE PART OF MY RELIGION Bec I AM SCARED.!! ohhh no they will look at me!
So that is no reason for a woman to take her hijab off Mr Hamza!
Identified as a Muslim brings upon me the same stereotypes, with a little difference that is' WOW, A TERRORIST! OSAMA!
hmm R U GONNA TELL US TO TAKE IT EASY ON ME TOO?
Perhaps I should change my name to Mo! A'uthu bilah!
A beard don't mean shit. It is merely male testosterone, but it neither means you are the best and worst muslims. It is merely a look and does not relfect your piety or your heart in any sense.
I sure hope you r not a female who is using such language that males might find offensive not to speak of Muslims!
Anyway, As for the beard! YOU ARE WRONG!
Anything that Allah & his messenger ORDER US TO DO, then it means IF WE DO WE R MORE PIOUS & get a reward, & if we don't we lose some of our Iman(faith) & get penalized for it!
Want proof?
Abdullah ibn umar Said, I heard Allah's prophet PBUH say: "Trim closely the moustache, and let the beard flow (Grow). Muslim no. 498
@EGYPTWHERETO I would never laugh at you for how you dress or the way you wear your facial hair. I would mock you for having utterly close-minded opinions, and your pathetic attempts at "reason". Your lack of a philosophical education is painfully apparent.
Your lack of presenting an argument and always attacking anyone who didn't study philosophy is apparent, yet I won't mock u anyway cause Islam prevents me from so. I don't mock, I tell u straight to ur face to either present an argument, speak of this super knowledge u gained from studying Philosophy instead of bragging about it or requiring anyone who speaks to u to study it...the majority of ppl didn't study Philosophy so u won't speak to them?
@EGYPTWHERETO An argument isn't needed to refute absurdities like "This invisible, untouchable sky-daddy that has precisely zero evidence for it's existence has ordered me how to wear facial hair, to mistreat women and murder people who don't agree with me." It doesn't even take a particularly well-educated individual to see that this is not only ridiculous, but utterly immoral.
Let's put the 2nd one on hold until we finish with the first one(after all I can't explain to someone what is E=mc2 without him asking first what is E,m and c, why squared etc..
but let me say U SEE IT AS (yes to beard) Murder & Mistreatment yet I SEE it as punishment(killing) & NOT MISTREATMENT..
@EGYPTWHERETO "Not everything u see exists & not everything u don't see doesn't exist, Sight is a limited sense."
You would think in such a limited manner. I am not surprised due to your education. I never said anything like 'because god isn't visible, it doesn't exist'. I DID say that god doesn't exist because there is precisely zero evidence that it does. Are you going to formulate a single valid argument here? Let's see.
@EGYPTWHERETO "1)Atoms r not seen yet they exist! 2)Electromagnetic waves above and below light r not seen, but we could detect heat of infrared.."
Atoms are detectable through repeatable experiments. Same with electromagnetic waves outside the visible spectrum.
Seriously, just stop typing here, your desperate attempts to sound educated are simply embarrassing. It is clear you have no idea what you are talking about, and are ill-equipped to have this discussion.
@emperor0013 2 youtube channels debunk the Quran's 'scientific miracles', and the creed of Islam check them out; therationalizer and CEMBadmins. I'd also advise you to check out the channels theramintrees and evid3nc3 for general well-presented, respectful, and insightful critiques of religion in general. I'm an apostate BTW.
So after WHY, HOW comes WHAT, What is this proof that our intellects can detect?
THEY R MANY, ALL AROUND US! ALLAH POINTS US TO THEM ALL THROUGH THE QURAN..Let me quote one:
2:164 Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth; in the alternation of the night and the day; in the sailing of the ships through the ocean for the profit of mankind; in the rain which Allah Sends down from the skies, and the life which He gives therewith to an earth that is ....cont
..He gives therewith to an earth that is dead; in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth; in the change of the winds, and the clouds which they Trail like their slaves between the sky and the earth;- (Here) indeed are Signs for a people that are wise.
Could u tell me how come out of no where, there is day light so we could get free light (sun) & go along with our duties, night so we can rest, water (rain) for growth and drink, cattle for food....cont
Gravity, atmosphere for life & fr our protection, sea(salt) water & river(pure) water never mix so we can drink, male & female so we can reproduce(not to mention love, companionship, enjoyment which means social, psychological & mental satisfaction)
All those got here on their own in the big bang? they all were set up perfectly like that?
bacteria still here to decompose, animals and plants and food chains so we eat.
@EGYPTWHERETO Ok, after your final argument quoting that meaningless verse, I have come to the conclusion that you are a troll. You aren't being serious, you are just wasting my time. You intentionally sound uneducated and formulate utterly flaccid arguments for the purpose of wasting my time. Nothing about that passage from the quran is 'proof' of anything. Your utter misunderstanding of the big bang theory is horrendous. Get the money you spent on your education back, they ripped you off.
All don't point to a creator like when we see a bike we right away know someone built it!
no one with a brain would dare see all that & its perfect comprehensive set up & NOT ADMIT THERE MUST BE A CREATOR!
No matter how much u hate what u hear or saw about religions(I bet it was all bad human action..IF God didn't want it he wouldn't have created a hell fire for punishment, BUT don't forget there is a paradise for reward! so get over their actions!
Your understanding of irreducible complexity is child-like. Your argument has been dismissed entirely by scholars. It seems you hear something you like and refuse to learn counter arguments.
"perfect set up"? Not even remotely close. Most of earth is uninhabitable by humans. We breath, eat, speak and drink through the same hole in our bodies, meaning a percentage of us will die every year choking on our own food. "Perfect"? No.
Growing a beard does not make you pious. Just because a mail man delivers you a message does not mean you dress up like him and follow every aspect of his life, how he dresses, how he shits and how he eats. A beard doesn't make you pious. It is just a look. What makes you pious is your actions. Personally I aint attracted to pubes on the face but it is just a look.
All the imams in Turkey work for the state. And ever friday the goverments tells them what to say. I would like to see that in other muslim countries. So that morons like this are eradicated. Islam has 99 qualities. This imam doesn't even have 5% of it.
And many of you Muslims are hypocrites, hostile to other opnions. I know so many hypocrite muslims. I have respect for Allah and the Quran. But many things are not normal into this age and must be adopted to this age. For instance the mosque in many mosque there are no women whatsoever and the imams are living in the dark ages. I will never respect something like that. An imam in Holland said. Our muslim women are laughing with infidel men we should keep them in check. MM that is unacceptable.
I agree with you mate. The quran makes no mention about controlling women in any sense. Merely commands them to be dutiful and respectful to their husbands. All this nonsense about extreme gender segreation and controlling every aspect of a woman's life does not reflect God's teachings or the quran in any sense!
In Islam there is a verse. There is no pressure in religion (2:256). Lol a classic textbook story use a verse in Quran and misuse for your advantage. You want your wife etc to be covered so that men don't look at her.
No one has the right to tell a other what to believe in or how to live. That is up to that person and Allah. And speaking about deen. Muslim goverment don't respect sharia because sharia gives women lots of rights. Which are not implemented. And on Hamza Yusuf please give me a break muslim woman are not dishounering themselves by not wearing the hijab.
I hate people who misuse religion. And I am very against mixing religion and polictics. Secularisme is the only way forward. Turkey and Tunesia are doing a good job on that. Morrokko has made great laws like banning a man marrying for woman, a woman has to atleast 18 to marry instead of 15. And she has a write to divorce.
Giving a 100 lashes for people who cheat. And the one I hate most as a woman is giving 33% to a women. Sharia has some good things as well.
Well if you read the verse on hijab it says its is better for you. So it is not compulsory. And only reason it stands in the Quran so that women would be protected from men of the 7th century. My name is reason so my if we think about it reasonably then conclusion no need for hijab. Because we don't live in the 7th century. Men will look but nothing compared to the 7th century.
What really stands in the Quran: “O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.” (Quran 33:59)
I don't think god requires what one should be wearing. God would want us to treat each other with kindness and respect. What women decide to wear is their prerogative. Whether a woman decides to wear a hijaab or a western dress, she should not be harassed for doing so.
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@tigersforchrist You believe in Enoch as a prophet of god don't you? Why don't you read about the wars he took part in, and then call your own prophet a murderer.
Muslims don't just live in the middle east you know, Stop watching fox news and read about the peaceful muslims all over the world.
hijab is very important because god command us to do so. Just like he command us to pray, avoid alcohol, and illicit intercourse. This in itself is an act of worship because the meaning of Islam is one who submits themselves to god. Also if someone leaves Islam, Allah replaces them with someone far better.
I have now come to the conclusion that this guy is dodgy.
@kindiseverything Well you obviously have not understood what he has said. He made it clear from the word GO! That it is an Islamic requirement. No questions and no doubts. IT IS ISLAMIC. He asked women to wear it.
The second part of his speech was advicing us how to DEAL with women WHO DO NOT wear the hijab.
It is true women are leaving Islam because they are getting abused by everyone. The non-Muslims abuse them& the Muslims. You have to be kind to ppl not every one is strong.
@coralreefuk of course you must be kind to people .But you must remember that this life is but a test and for those leaving islam because of this is sad.
@kindiseverything Yep that is why the good Sheik is asking you to deal with people with wisdom and kindness not be blase about their fear and pain. It is about having an attitude that will help them and encourage them and make their test easier for them.
u could be hindu, since ur brown n look south asian n are known for controlling ur wifes but its so much tough to be a woman please, Alhumdilliah men in the west dont force hijab, their are fewer muslims, the society is diff this part
I dnt wear the hijab (yet). I started practicing Islam nearly 2 years ago, although I was born into the faith, and it's had a profound effect on my character, attitude, in ways I never imagined. To all the Muslims, plz hold onto yr imaan b/c w/out it we're empty and do yr best to b good Muslims, insha'ALlah.
Love it Mashaa Allah, Allahu Akbar...May Allah swt reward Sheikh Hamza Yusuf for his efforts...Visit me on Facebook if you are interested: "Pathway to heaven". Asalamu Aleikom wa Rahmato Allah wa Barakato...
@fredfelosofar You respect women with hijab more because they deserve it more? You should respect all women equally. Also just in case you didn't know a head covering does not make someone a better muslim.
Athough am arab muslim I dnt wear HiJAB i wear watever i like..and Hijab is not the only face of ISLAM, faith in God comes first and then a person try his best to satisfy the Lord to continue the religion of this Tenders, I'm not saying that I am walking in a completely right path, but I know that i am loyal to my God in my religion.(al7amdulellah)
Dear sisters who wear hijab, please don't think you have done too much, Allah will reward you insha Allah specially because you were wearing it in such hard times. Please don't think "why were i doing this then?" this is not how hamza yusuf meant it.
And i don't like how he's shouting at us everytime, it hurts, he should say it kindly, people will understand. I understand his anger though. May Allah reward him.
WHAT allah...remember we ALL KNOW there isnt a shred of anything,no proof/evidence to support any allah theory...BUT your koran proves the hoax & how muslims are lied to
why should your allah reward him....when your allah obviously DOESNT GIVE A SHIT about millions of innocents who suffer appallingly in your ummah DUE TO islams filth/immorality
So RANSOMING women is holy? Muhammad got some of his own "wives" like this - Sahih Muslim Book 19 #4292:
…The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) made a raid upon Banu Mustaliq while THEY WERE UNAWARE and their cattle were having a drink...He killed those who fought and imprisoned others. On that very day, he captured Juwairiya bint al-Harith.”
And of course he "married" Safiyya on the day he TORTURED and MURDERED her husband. If a Crusader did this to a Muslim woman, you KNOW you'd agree it was RAPE.
about safiyya. tortured and murdered?! stop twisting the facts.
He was beheaded along with his son and all of the men of Banu Qurayza
because of their treachery.
as for safiyya herself, you even said Muhammad (PBUH) MARRIED her.
Who equates marriage with rape?!
And the marriage was her choice.
After freeing her, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) gave her the choice between remaining a Jewess and returning to her people or entering Islam and becoming his wife.
'...Then the infidels were defeated. BY ALLAH, I saw the women fleeing LIFTING UP THEIR CLOTHES, revealing their leg-bangles and THEIR LEGS. SO, the companions of 'Abdullah bin Jubair said "THE BOOTY! O people, THE BOOTY! ...WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR now?" ..."Have you forgotten what ALLAH'S APOSTLE SAID to you?"
Note, they saw the women's legs & the hadith continues "SO [ie. THEREFORE] (we) said "THE BOOTY" etc. The inference that women were the "booty" is clear.
I'm an atheist & I don't believe in the b/s claims of dirty ignorant primitives from thousands of years ago.
Nevertheless, the "Jesus" character of the Christians is COMPLETELY different from Muhammad: Jesus didn't RAPE women, ENSLAVE people, CUT THE HEADS OFF PEOPLE, STONE WOMEN TO DEATH, "marry" 6 YEAR OLD LITTLE GIRLS, TORTURE PEOPLE in order to STEAL their treasure, or insist JIHAD was the duty of his followers.
Muhammad would be serving several life sentences IN JAIL if he lived today.
Imagine MUSLIM WOMEN were attacked by Crusaders who invaded their town. Imagine the Chief Crusader writing:
"My men seemed to refrain from having SEX with the MUSLIM WOMEN because of THEIR HUSBANDS...but just then I had a revelation!! God said "It is wrong to have sex with married women, EXCEPT if they are CAPTIVE MUSLIMS! It is a DECREE. Such women are lawful because they are SPOILS OF WAR!"
Would you call that rape? Muhammad's verse is the justification of a FILTHY CRIMINAL, not a "prophet".
Islam tells us WHY Muhammad wrote RAPE into his Qur'an
Sahih Muslim 8 #3432:
...Allah's Messenger (pbuh) sent an army to Autas...Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (pbuh) seemed to REFRAIN from HAVING INTERCOURSE with CAPTIVE WOMEN because of THEIR HUSBANDS... Then Allah sent down regarding that QURAN 4.24
"And all married women (are forbidden unto you) EXCEPT THOSE (CAPTIVES) whom your right hands possess. IT IS A DECREE OF ALLAH FOR YOU."
@Shadi1007 sorry you couldn't find it - I didn't make it clear enough. The hadith is Bukhari volume 4, Book 52, Number 276. Just look for Book 52 - 'Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)' and scroll down.
The reason Muhammad taught his followers to rape women was partly to justify his own rapes, & give his men a reward for coming out on his raids, but it was also to destroy the tribes so that he could steal their lands & goods (which he also wrote into his Qur'an - see 33.27 for example).
what do u feel when u see a muslima woman covered and what do u feel when u turn around and see a dirty naked piece of meat that is ur girlfriend n ur sister ??!!
You talk of the "dirty naked piece of meat that is ur girlfriend n ur sister" & you ask what WE feel about Muslims? You are full of contempt and hatred for others, as your religion teaches you to be. So naturally when we see a Muslim woman it is like seeing someone wearing a Nazi swastika.
You're not natural-born killers or hate-filled maniacs, but Muhammad's teachings make you into this & you become MORE angry because you are so ashamed of yourselves. Leave Islam, and rediscover your humanity.
We aren't taught contempt & hatred for others, but told to respect people & treat them well, muslims or not, & to say a good word when talking to someone & if you can't, at least just smile, & it shall be recorded as a good dead for you :)
The fact that some muslims hate and treat non-muslims badly doesn't mean they were told to do so in islam.
You just watched Hamza Yusuf talk of non-Muslim women (from 1.57) "And we're living in a society, people walking around NAKED...I mean, go out there and look at these ANIMALS out there! [crowd laughs] serious, go out there and LOOK at them! Unbelievable!"
And you claim "we aren't taught contempt & hatred for others". What if I said of Muslim women "Look at THESE ANIMALS" etc.
You know this is disgusting contempt. Learn to empathize with non-Muslims, and you will know why Islam is so repulsive.
They do BLASPHEME who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary"...Whoever joins other gods with Allah...the FIRE WILL BE HIS ABODE. There will for the WRONG-DOERS be no one to help.
5.73
THEY DO BLASPHEME who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity...If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily A GRIEVOUS PENALTY will befall the blasphemers among them.
98.6
Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists...are the WORST of creatures.
Note I'm not talking about Muhammad's calls for violence,murder, rape etc. You seem to have difficulty empathizing with others, so imagine the verses with 'MUSLIM' in place of 'Jews' etc.
E.g. Imagine a religion with texts "For the WICKEDNESS OF THE MUSLIMS..." Or "They do BLASPHEME who claim Muhammad was a prophet" etc.
More contempt: 2.221 ...Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire... 2.99
We have sent down to thee Manifest Signs and none reject them but THOSE WHO ARE PERVERSE' etc etc
I think we must agree that if you teach that people are wicked, and that they are blasphemers, and that blasphemers should be executed, then you're teaching hatred and contempt.
Thank you for acknowledging that Muslims aren't permitted to be good friends with anyone else. When that fact becomes widely known in civilized countries, we will finally stop allowing Muslims to come live with us - it can only lead to disharmony.
we aren't allowed to take people of other religions as best friends, but we should treat eveyone well.
People you choose to be your best friends say a bit about who you are.
It won't work anyway, how can I be bestfriends with someone who thinks and believes in totally different things than me, who drinks and does many things I shouldn't do and thus won't accompany her in.
How can not being best friends with certain people cause disharmony -.-
We are not taught to hate anyone ! That would contradict with treating everyone well and with living in peace.
When my parents point out something bad about my friends I don't end up hating them, I just take care.
I am muslim and thank God I don't hate anyone for their religion or anything, I might hate murderers and people who do inhuman things, which is for their actions not for their beliefs.
What you said proves you know nothing about islam.
Try to use empathy. Imagine a religion teaches people "Do not be good friends with Muslims, because they are blasphemers and wrong-doers". You must KNOW that this will lead to demonization of Muslims.
Now, how many people who teach their children about the evils of Muslims would you want to immigrate into Islamic countries? Please think about it, & answer honestly. (See my top favorite on the right-hand side of my page 'UK Islamic School', & you will learn more about what Islam teaches.)
@xxyellaxx92 but if people "use their minds and gain knowledge" they will NOT believe. Muhammad's Qur'an contains demonstrable falsehoods which PROVE it's a con. E.g
96.2 Created man, out of a (mere) CLOT of congealed BLOOD.
"Allah" was ignorant about the egg and spermatozoa?
27.18 ...when they reached the Valley of the Ants, an ant exclaimed: "O ants! Enter your dwellings lest Solomon and his armies crush you, unperceiving."
Talking ants?! A "god" wouldn't make such laughable errors.
"Also forbidden for you are married women, except those who have fallen in your hands as prisoners of war. This is the order of Allah relating to marriage prohibitions. All women other than these are lawful provided you seek them in marriage with gifts from your property (dowry), desiring chastity and not lust. Give them their dowry as an
Did you READ the hadith which EXPLAINS how 4.24 came to be invented? Using EMPATHY, imagine Crusaders capture some Muslim women.
'The Crusaders seemed to refrain from having intercourse with the Muslims because of their husbands. Then the Chief Crusader had a REVELATION! "God said all married women are forbidden EXCEPT CAPTIVE WOMEN - and it is a DECREE!! All women OTHER THAN THESE are lawful provided you seek them in marriage"
You agree that sex with these MARRIED MUSLIM WOMEN would be rape?
...Allah's Messenger (pbuh) sent an army to Autas...Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (pbuh) seemed to REFRAIN from HAVING INTERCOURSE with CAPTIVE WOMEN because of THEIR HUSBANDS... Then Allah sent down regarding that (Qur'an 4.24)"And all married women (are forbidden unto you) EXCEPT THOSE (CAPTIVES) whom your right hands possess. IT IS A DECREE OF ALLAH FOR YOU."
'O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and THOSE (captives) whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as SPOILS OF WAR...thou mayst be free from BLAME, for Allah is ever Forgiving..."
What sort of "god" would call women SPOILS OF WAR?! Clearly, Muhammad wanted to rape non-Muslim women and because RAPE was a CRIME, he pretended "Allah" let him, and told him that he wasn't to BLAME. Disgusting.
..Then the infidels were defeated. By Allah, I saw the women fleeing lifting up their clothes REVEALING THEIR LEG-BANGLES AND THEIR LEGS. So, the companions of 'Abdullah bin Jubair said "THE BOOTY! O people, THE BOOTY! Your companions have become victorious, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR now?" ..."Have you forgotten what ALLAH'S APOSTLE SAID to you?" They replied, "BY ALLAH! We will go to the enemy and collect our share from the war booty."
If rape victims got pregnant the RANSOM was more difficult to get. Muhammad had some advice:
Malik's Muwatta Bk 29, #29.32.95:
...Abu Said al-Khudri said '...We took some Arabs prisoner, and we desired the women as celibacy was hard for us. WE WANTED THE RANSOM, so WE WANTED TO PRACTISE COITUS INTTERUPTUS.... We asked him about that and HE SAID 'You don't have to NOT do it [EJACULATE]. There is no self which is to come into existence up to the Day of Rising but that it will come into existence."
Yes, you explained why you couldn't be good friends with non-Muslims, but you didn't answer my question: How many NON-Muslims would you like to see emigrate into Islamic countries, if those NON-Muslims are taught to view Muslims in the SAME WAY as Islam teaches Muslims to view NON-Muslims?
I think I know your answer: None. This shows that Islam is a disgrace to all humanity - it necessarily drives people apart. Any other religious people can get along, knowing their differences are superficial.
friends as in we talk every once and a while, are nice to each other, I help her when I can, but they never got to the extend of being my bestfriends.
It just won't work, cause of the differences in beliefs and in things we are allowed to do.
In verse [96-2]
the word used in the verse is "عَلَقٍ".
The most appropriate meaning of the word in arabic is "a thing that clings to some place." The word is literally used to describe leeches that cling to a body to suck blood.
Nonetheless, Muslims are of course as innately decent & intelligent as any other people, and are almost always raised in Muhammad's religion without free choice, and without knowing all that Islam stands for. And of course some Muslims don't agree with all that Islam teaches.
You said earlier you empathize with animals - this is something to be proud of, and it shows your natural morality. I think you need to reconsider your allegiance to Islam's teachings of executing apostates, atheists etc.
"When the sperm of the male unites with the ovum of the female, the essence of the baby to be born is formed. This single cell, known as a "zygote" in biology, will instantly begin reproducing by dividing, and eventually become a "piece of flesh," called an embryo.
The embryo, however, does not spend its developmental period in a void. It clings to the uterus, with something like roots that is firmly fixed to the earth by its tendrils.
Re. Qur'an 96.2 - 'Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood' - you need to ask "Does this demonstrate the knowledge of a god, or a man?"
Muhammad didn't have access to microscopes to know that life begins NOT with a CLOT of blood, but with the egg & spermatozoa.
If we are to believe the Qur'an is dictated by "Allah" and not by a man, we must see evidence. But it contains NOTHING that suggests a god wrote it. - i.e. nothing that WASN'T known at the time. AND it contains many errors.
Through this bond, the embryo can obtain the substances essential to its development from the mother's body."
Concerning verse [27-18]
Animals make a wide variety of sounds, from the musical song of a bird to the howl of the wolf,to the contented purr of a cat.
While they are unable to talk in the sense that humans do, they do communicate with sound in a way that is understood only by other members of their own species.
@xxyellaxx92 certainly animals communicate, but a study of an ant's mouthparts reveals that it is INCAPABLE of exclaiming the human name "Solomon!" - e.g. it doesn't have the tongue necessary for the "L" sound.
A "god" would know this, but a primitive man wouldn't - hence the error.
Even Aisha expressed doubts about Muhammad's Qur'an - Bukhari Book 60, # 311:
“…when Allah revealed…[Qur'an 33.51] I said (to the Prophet), "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires."
Animals might not have a "proper" language in which to communicate, but they do communicate and in an amazing variety of ways.
A report in the science magazine says" Advances in audio technology have enabled scientists to discover that ants routinely talk to each other in their nests.
The findings were reported in the journal Science Hills are alive with the sound of ants — talking to each other - Times Online
Other admissions of fraud: Bukhari Book 52, Number 69:
'...For thirty days Allah's Apostle invoked Allah to curse those who had killed the companions of Bir-Mauna; he invoked evil upon the tribes of Ral, Dhakwan, and Usaiya who disobeyed Allah and His Apostle. There was REVEALED about those who were killed at Bir-Mauna a QURANIC VERSE we used to recite, but it was CANCELLED LATER ON...'
So "Allah" made a mistake? Again, clearly the work of a man.
ants exceed us at acoustic communication. Scientists expect that ant uses antennas to send and receive acoustic vibrations. The ant amplifies the received signals like the advanced receiving devices Moreover, it removes sounds overlapping , so it makes filtration or clarification to the sound to distinguish it from another.
This is a very developed communication system that was unknown to scientists and they only discovered it a few years ago.
The Prophet said "Write: 'Not equal are those Believers who sit.." and at that time...the blind man was sitting behind the Prophet . He said "O Allah's Apostle! What is your order For me...as I am a blind man?"
So INSTEAD OF THE ABOVE VERSE the following Verse was revealed:
'Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) EXCEPT those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame etc.) and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah.'
Concerning verse [4-24] I already gave you the proper translation of the verse, and explained it, and you are clearly wrong, and Shadi replied to your point about the hadith.
Conclusion : Rape isn't supported in islam, but punished.
concerning the very last part.
* First
Is this authentic?.
Some hadiths are week, and not trustworthy, and shouldn't be taken into consideration.
This doesn't go with the explanation of verse [4-24], nor with [24-32]
The hadith re 4.24 is clear - the men wouldn't have sex with MARRIED non-Muslim captives, but Muhammad wanted them to, so he "revealed" a decree that married non-Muslims aren't considered married when you capture them - to get around the rules on ADULTERY.
You would agree with me that if Crusaders had done this to MUSLIM WOMEN, it would be an admission of RAPE - given most married women don't want to have sex with men who have just killed their husbands, and enslaved them and their children.
"...students used to ask our teacher, Na’eem Ayyad, during our Islamic studies...if it were permitted for Muslims to RAPE the Jewish women after we defeated them. His response was "The women captured in battle have no choice in this matter, they are concubines and they need to obey their masters, HAVING SEX WITH SLAVE CAPTIVES is NOT A MATTER OF CHOICE for slaves." He said that sexual intercourse with Jewish captives does not have to be consensual.'
I already said TWICE I believe that the verse allows marriage of thos slaves not just having sex with them or raping them -.-
The verse coming as it does after the enumeration of prohibited degrees of relationship, is meant to stress the prohibition of sexual relations with any woman other than one's lawful wife.
20 hours ago
you said : "Imagine MUSLIM WOMEN were attacked by Crusaders who invaded their town."
@xxyellaxx92 there's much more to discuss, and I will PROVE Islam's texts tell us of Muhammad actively enslaving people, or raping Safiyya, wife of Kinana, who Muhammad had tortured and beheaded, or Muhammad stoning women to death, or chopping the heads off women, or chopping their hands off, or INVADING other's lands and STEALING them (justified in 33.27) etc.
However, I want to resolve 4.24. Do you agree that it is SPECIFICALLY worded to ALLOW "adultery" with MARRIED CAPTIVES?
@xxyellaxx92 "Al-Alaq" - 'The CLOT'. Agreed? Now, here's Ibn Ishaq on how Muhammad captured Safiyya:
"...the Apostle rode out with sixteen hundred followers on an expedition against the Jewish tribe of Khaybar, about one hundred miles distant...We met a few labourers going forth early to their work, bearing spades and baskets, and when they beheld the Apostle with his army they cried out and fled. The Apostle said "Allah Akbar! Khaybar will be destroyed."
"The Apostle occupied the Jewish forts one after the other, taking prisoners as he went. Among these were Safiya, THE WIFE OF KINANA, the Khaybar chief, and two female cousins; the Apostle CHOSE SAFIYA FOR HIMSELF. The other prisoners were distributed among the Muslims...KINANA, the HUSBAND of Safiya, had been guardian of the tribe's treasures, and he was brought before the Apostle, who asked where they were hidden. But Kinana refused to disclose the place...
'...The Apostle ordered the ruin to be dug up, and some of the treasure was found. After that Kinana was asked again about the remainder, but he still refused to tell. The APOSTLE OF ALLAH handed him over to al‑Zubayr, saying, 'TORTURE HIM until he tells what he knows', and al‑Zubayr kindled a fire on his chest so that he almost expired; then the Apostle gave him to Muhammad b. Maslama, who STRUCK OFF HIS HEAD....The PLUNDER of Khaybar...was greater than any before...
...The Prophet TOOK SAFIYA as a CAPTIVE. He manumitted her and married her. Thabit asked Anas, "What did he give her as Mahr (i.e. marriage gift)?" Anas replied. "Her Mahr was herself, for he manumitted her."
Book 62, Number 22
'The Prophet stayed for three days between Khaibar and Medina, and there he consummated his marriage to Safiyya bint Huyai.'
If a Crusader tortured & murdered the husband of a MUSLIM woman, then had sex with her it would be RAPE - right?
I don't believe everything that's said certainly true until I look into it and info about it from many different places, then I think for myself.
I did do quuite much searching about this topic.
The hadiths should be followed.
The trusted authentic ones though.
I found a long proof that killing of an apostate whose apostasy accompanies a conflict with the Muslims is permissible. fights muslims, creates devision or so.
Abu Bakr bin Abi Shaybah narrated to us: Hafs bin Ghayath and Abu Mu‘awiyah and Waki‘ related to us from al-A‘mash from ‘Abd Allah bin Murrah from Masruq from ‘Abd Allah (bin Mas‘ud) who said: The Messenger of God said: ‘The blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god but God and that I am his Messenger is not lawful except in one of three cases:
a person who, being married, commits zina, a person for (the murder) of another, and a person who abandons his religion and separates from jama‘ah (of Muslims)." (Muslim 3175) ]
were it is clerified to not being about apostasy alone.
Also there are several hadiths showing apostates that weren't killed or ordered to be killed by Muhammad (PBUH).
The Prophet’s attitude towards a prescribed penalty reportedly was that he would apply it even if his daughter Fatimah committed the crime.
You say of the hadith you quoted "were it is clerified to not being about apostasy alone". If you would please READ the hadith, it SPECIFICALLY says Muslims cannot be killed "except in ONE of three cases"
This means any ONE of the three cases mentioned will get a Muslim killed by Islam. And one of the three is if a Muslim "abandons his religion".
This violent idiocy alone will one day have Islam banned from civilized countries. People are not to blame if they lose the ability to believe.
@xxyellaxx92 certainly 33.30 wasn't invented for sexual pleasure - I was making the point that the Qur'an is CLEARLY invented for Muhammad's benefit. Why would a "god", supposedly writing a book for BILLIONS and BILLIONS of people, for ALL TIME, put in that book verses specifically about a man who only had a few years to live?
Clearly, it was MUHAMMAD threatening his captive wives with DOUBLE the penalty that ordinary wives would get, if they transgressed in any of the ways HE did!
"something given in excess of one's obligation" (from which latter meaning the term salat an-nafl - i.e., a "supererogatory prayer" - is derived).
In its plural form anfal, which occurs in the Qur'an only in the above verse, this word signifies "spoils of war", in as much as such spoils are an incidental accession above and beyond anything that a mujahid ("a fighter in God's cause") is entitled to expect.
@xxyellaxx92 so, Islam's OWN TEXTS tell us Muhammad rode out 100 MILES on what he called "expeditions" to INVADE other people's lands, STEAL their land and goods, and RAPE and ENSLAVE and MURDER and TORTURE the people.
The sad fact is, you are so blinded by the allegiance to Muhammad you were raised with, that you will excuse ANY crime. E.g. you continue to approve of "marriages" for sex with CAPTIVE women who ALREADY have husbands. Disgraceful and disgusting. I believe you're better than that.
"a person who abandons his religion and separates from jama‘ah (of Muslims)"
THERE IS A CONDITION.
the meaning is that killing of an apostate whose apostasy accompanies a conflict with the Muslims is permissible.
I already explained how 33:3 makes sense.
NO NOT AGREED ALAQ AS I PREVIOUSLY SAID isn't apropriately translated to "clot", but is appropriately defined as "a leechlike mass", or "a clinging entity"
Yusufali: Created man, out of a (mere) CLOT of congealed blood:
Shakir: He created man from a CLOT.
Pickthall: Createth man from a CLOT.
You know better than the ulema? In any case, YOUR translation STILL doesn't make sense. "Createth man from a LEECHLIKE MASS" is completely WRONG, & doesn't even recognize that TWO cells are required.
Neither sperm or egg is a leechlike mass. A real "god" would've written "Created man from an egg AND a spermatozoon"
Regarding Islam killing Muslims for apostasy, you are WRONG if that an apostate can only be killed if there is war. You see, Muhammad considered his religion CONSTANTLY at WAR until it rules the rest of us 5.5 billion people. So a Muslim who leaves Islam can be the most peaceful person in the world, but because Islam considers itself at war, it still preaches the person should be killed.
E.g. See wikipedia for the EGYTIAN convert from Islam, Mohammed Hegazy, who has had numerous death threats.
As you know, conversion away from Islam is punishable by death in Egypt - in accordance with Islamic Law. Thus, the death threats Mohammed Hegazy has received have been from ISLAMIC CLERICS, and under the same fatwa, Hegazy's daughter Miriam will be killed at the age of 10 if she does not choose Islam.
So please stop lying about Islam. YOU and EVERY Muslim KNOWS that the penalty for leaving Muhammad's killer-cult is DEATH, and dozens of Islamic clerics are on Youtube confirming this.
@xxyellaxx92 yes yes, you SHOW how sick/dirty/INSECURE islam really is with this hideous nonsense of MURDER of people who have more intelligence/integrity than most who remain shackled by the hoax/cult of islam
of course the clinging aspect was known well before your koran
AND WHAT is the drop it refers to when it says 'humans are created from a drop emitted from between backbone/ribs" LOL
WHAT drop...and why does it NEVER MENTION ovum or fertilisation
my dear, a lot of people misunderstand, & misinterpret Islam, including muslims. many just follow what others say. & btw scholars differ in opinion about certain things because guess what people are'nt perfect & they are different, & how someone understands something is affected by how one thinks, & one's intensions. You should gain knowledge and think for yourself. To know what Islam truely is you can only judge it by understanding the quran and authentic hadiths properly.
1- Death penalty isn't solely for apostasy, but apostasy accompanied with treason.
2- About the consensual love you speak of, Yes in Islam love is only allowed between husband & wife. You can't just "love" whoever you want to, maybe get pregnant, and maybe the guy will leave you alone with a baby.
These are the rules and punishments applied by "an Islamic government" it's not murder. If you don't like the rules simply don't live under the protection of an islamic government
@xxyellaxx92 muslim females get left with babies...and we see tiny tots BEGGING in streets discarded by parents/other muslims as the product of temp marriage ceremonies performed by your dirty imams
you STUPID girl...trying to come across as some kind of intellectual when you clearly are nothing of the sort...telling me to 'think for myself' LOL
its those with brains and who THINK for themselves who leave the hoax of islam IF THEY CAN
Most verses matching scientific facts aren't plain & clear, cause again it's not a science book, however, so many verses clearly imply knowing of scientific facts.
"AND IT IS We who have built the universe with [Our creative] power; and, verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it." [51-47]
<< universe expanding! tell me it was known.
I don't know ask the muslims one by one, & tell me, but that's off point isn't it?
you OOZE dishonesty...your prick mohammed taught penalty for non belief/turning away is MURDER - and how can not believing taught stories be treason LOL
what makes you SO WEAK, SO VERY DISHONEST and so supportive of MURDER that you dont have a problem with MURDER of innocent people who are smarter/stronger than yourself
I know many muslims violate rules of Islam, because I see them doing things that violate the rules of Islam.
Beating a wife is a third resort to avoid devorce, it shouldn't inflict pain, as explained by hadith of Muhammad (PBUH), it's more accurately described as a gentle tap on the body, more of a symbolic measure than a punitive one.
The marriage of Aisha was an acception.
91% of Muhammad's wives (PBUH) were 17 years and older, and 75% were widows.
"Killing for allah" is in cases where it's rightful, such as self defense, and fighting oppression. Islam is completely against murder and suicide.
It is not wrong to acknowledge the power of your creator and fear him, but we are'nt shackled by taught fears.
You can't fear what you can't see or prove exists scientifically, or through one's senses, or through expieriencing a unique affect, out of being taught to.
@xxyellaxx92 "If death penalty was for apostates in general the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) would be the first to carry that out or order it be done" (your words)
its WHAT THE SCUMBAG INSTRUCTED
he himself MURDERED innocents just because they didnt accept what he 'went' to offer them
you dont even know the islam that you DRIBBLE on about lol
why do you think all 4 schools AND muslims support MURDER for apostacy
why do you think MILLIONS are forced to be living a lie??? its sick
i thank u 4 this wonderful talk- so true, we worry about hijab &the length of the beards and make takfir, like islam is about this-Quranic: Allah and his messenger wage a war on usury-b4 hijab, muslims need 2 reestablish the currency & practice of trade-reestablish the taking of zakaah(not giving) within our communities. we make issues out of what the salaf did not demand & ignore what they established first-hence we r mentally backward-worse,we want 2 take away madhab & reinvent the law-sic
43balsam 3 weeks ago
i believe that it shows strength of one's personality to cover the hair. but at the same time, Hamza Yusuf said it well..... we have to recognize the time we're in. There are more important things, like holding onto your faith. Even something like that has become an ongoing issue. Its true that many muslim women leave the deen.... because men make it an obsession to constantly make religion about THEM. religion is for everyone... not just women.
senalanm 2 months ago
@ana97x In fact several hadiths are recorded where Muhammad cancelled verses, changed them, or simply forgot what he had said - leading to Muhammad writing in his Qur'an
2.106
Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it...
Even the man who raised Muhammad (his Uncle) didn't believe him, and his child-bride Aisha expressed doubts about his claims. So it is irrefutable that the Qur'an has NOT been "the same" always.
jontwest 2 months ago
WHAT A GR8 AND KNOWLEDGEBLE PERSON...HE IS A ALEEM WITH LOADS OF COMMEN SENSE
MsShakibkhan 2 months ago
so much respect for our beautiful sisters who were the hijab. can't imagine the things they go through and the prejudices they endure on a daily basis. and respect to all the other sisters who don't wear the hijab..they're still our sisters :)))) much love xoxo
i689 2 months ago 4
nice channel..some muslim men dont like hijab...i have that experience..he said hijab isnt modern..what to do.
norazid 4 months ago
I really like this.
rissa923 5 months ago
LOL masha Allah!
28happilyeverafter24 6 months ago
The hijaab is not important in and of itself, if used for fashion by the sole choice of the woman. This is, most unfortunately, normally not the case.
emperor0013 7 months ago
Brilliant lecture!!!
Fulanatje 7 months ago
As always a lecture of brilliance..! I have always wanted men (muslim men) too to put on their skullcaps and walk about as muslims and face the array of abuses and oftentimes unfriendly remarks, gazes and all negative diatribe, and see how it feels to be identified as a muslim. Even with this significant number of muslims in the west one finds it difficult to greet them with Salam in the street cus of their accommodation and identification with the non-muslims culture and attire.
Famalang 7 months ago
Awrah (private parta) of slave women is from navel to knees which is why they would go around "bare breasted", but this was challenged:
"He (i.e. al-Imam Malik ibn Anas) strongly disapproved of the behaviour of the slave women of al-Madinah in going out uncovered above the lower garment. He said: "I have spoken to the sultan about it, but I have not received a reply." He said: "Beat slave women if they do that. ("Kitab al-Jami" of al-Imam Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani al-Maliki (died 386 AH))
Tunnel0fLove 7 months ago
I don't see why americans are digusted by Muslim religion forcing women to be covered, as they have laws about "Indecent exposure". Americans are scared of PENIS! If you are against Hijab, go walk out into the streets with no pants so the world can see your member! Yeah! They can divert their Eyes is they are offended!
igratkransy 7 months ago
Hijab is not in the quran. Women were commanded to legthen their skirts and cover their bosoms. Essentily cover attrative parts like breasts and legs with nice clothes, like a loose blouse and a nice long skirt. You don't cover up and hide individuality. While the hijab is completely fine, it is not a command from God. Merely that is interpretations from hadiths!
LittleQueenTudor 8 months ago
GOd never ordered women to cover their heads with hijabs or anything, god in fact said take ur veil or hijab wrap it around your breast area, cover your breasts, because women used to wear veils with open cleavages, it was a fashion thing, you see the indians doing that. they wear head scarfs as a tradition and fashions. god said cover everything except what appears there off. naturally humans hair, hands, necks show, blah :)P so stop teaching wrong things please ppl
strictlyafghan 8 months ago
EGYPTWHERETo you are an idiot like milions of muslim men out there. Who care about the physical appearance of a women. Instead who she is inside. If you wanna look like a bearded freak with djallibiyah good for you. There is no need to be dressed like a person from the 7th century. You wanna show look at me a real muslim I am the only true muslim. You think you are better then a man who doesnt have a beard. But you are not.
Superageofreason 9 months ago
I have a beard and I say my name is Muhammad.
I get stared at, laughed at & I DON"T LOSE FAITH OR NEED COMPASSION WHEN I LEAVE THE PART OF MY RELIGION Bec I AM SCARED.!! ohhh no they will look at me!
So that is no reason for a woman to take her hijab off Mr Hamza!
Identified as a Muslim brings upon me the same stereotypes, with a little difference that is' WOW, A TERRORIST! OSAMA!
hmm R U GONNA TELL US TO TAKE IT EASY ON ME TOO?
Perhaps I should change my name to Mo! A'uthu bilah!
It's Muhammad!
EGYPTWHERETO 9 months ago
@EGYPTWHERETO
A beard don't mean shit. It is merely male testosterone, but it neither means you are the best and worst muslims. It is merely a look and does not relfect your piety or your heart in any sense.
LittleQueenTudor 8 months ago
@LittleQueenTudor
I sure hope you r not a female who is using such language that males might find offensive not to speak of Muslims!
Anyway, As for the beard! YOU ARE WRONG!
Anything that Allah & his messenger ORDER US TO DO, then it means IF WE DO WE R MORE PIOUS & get a reward, & if we don't we lose some of our Iman(faith) & get penalized for it!
Want proof?
Abdullah ibn umar Said, I heard Allah's prophet PBUH say: "Trim closely the moustache, and let the beard flow (Grow). Muslim no. 498
EGYPTWHERETO 7 months ago
@EGYPTWHERETO I would never laugh at you for how you dress or the way you wear your facial hair. I would mock you for having utterly close-minded opinions, and your pathetic attempts at "reason". Your lack of a philosophical education is painfully apparent.
emperor0013 7 months ago
@emperor0013
Your lack of presenting an argument and always attacking anyone who didn't study philosophy is apparent, yet I won't mock u anyway cause Islam prevents me from so. I don't mock, I tell u straight to ur face to either present an argument, speak of this super knowledge u gained from studying Philosophy instead of bragging about it or requiring anyone who speaks to u to study it...the majority of ppl didn't study Philosophy so u won't speak to them?
Present an argument or stay quite!
EGYPTWHERETO 7 months ago
@EGYPTWHERETO An argument isn't needed to refute absurdities like "This invisible, untouchable sky-daddy that has precisely zero evidence for it's existence has ordered me how to wear facial hair, to mistreat women and murder people who don't agree with me." It doesn't even take a particularly well-educated individual to see that this is not only ridiculous, but utterly immoral.
emperor0013 7 months ago
@emperor0013
Ahha! An argument! great!
You say acc to my understanding that,
1)invisible God=no evidence=it doesn't exist
2)Beard, MISTREAT women & Murder..
Let's put the 2nd one on hold until we finish with the first one(after all I can't explain to someone what is E=mc2 without him asking first what is E,m and c, why squared etc..
but let me say U SEE IT AS (yes to beard) Murder & Mistreatment yet I SEE it as punishment(killing) & NOT MISTREATMENT..
we'll discuss that later,
now point 1...
EGYPTWHERETO 7 months ago
@emperor0013
Part 2
Not everything u see exists & not everything u don't see doesn't exist, Sight is a limited sense.
E.g. 1)Atoms r not seen yet they exist! 2)Electromagnetic waves above and below light r not seen, but we could detect heat of infrared..
WHY & HOW...
Why is Allah invisible? Bec life is a test, one is supposed to detect him WITH ANOTHER SENSE!
HOW? That's the sense I speak of, using OUR BRAINS, Intellect that WE HUMANS ONLY HAVE!(No animal no matter it's intellect reaches ours!
EGYPTWHERETO 7 months ago
@EGYPTWHERETO "Not everything u see exists & not everything u don't see doesn't exist, Sight is a limited sense."
You would think in such a limited manner. I am not surprised due to your education. I never said anything like 'because god isn't visible, it doesn't exist'. I DID say that god doesn't exist because there is precisely zero evidence that it does. Are you going to formulate a single valid argument here? Let's see.
emperor0013 7 months ago
@EGYPTWHERETO "1)Atoms r not seen yet they exist! 2)Electromagnetic waves above and below light r not seen, but we could detect heat of infrared.."
Atoms are detectable through repeatable experiments. Same with electromagnetic waves outside the visible spectrum.
Seriously, just stop typing here, your desperate attempts to sound educated are simply embarrassing. It is clear you have no idea what you are talking about, and are ill-equipped to have this discussion.
emperor0013 7 months ago
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@emperor0013 2 youtube channels debunk the Quran's 'scientific miracles', and the creed of Islam check them out; therationalizer and CEMBadmins. I'd also advise you to check out the channels theramintrees and evid3nc3 for general well-presented, respectful, and insightful critiques of religion in general. I'm an apostate BTW.
strangestdude 4 months ago
@emperor0013
Part 3
So after WHY, HOW comes WHAT, What is this proof that our intellects can detect?
THEY R MANY, ALL AROUND US! ALLAH POINTS US TO THEM ALL THROUGH THE QURAN..Let me quote one:
2:164 Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth; in the alternation of the night and the day; in the sailing of the ships through the ocean for the profit of mankind; in the rain which Allah Sends down from the skies, and the life which He gives therewith to an earth that is ....cont
EGYPTWHERETO 7 months ago
@emperor0013
part 4
..He gives therewith to an earth that is dead; in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth; in the change of the winds, and the clouds which they Trail like their slaves between the sky and the earth;- (Here) indeed are Signs for a people that are wise.
Could u tell me how come out of no where, there is day light so we could get free light (sun) & go along with our duties, night so we can rest, water (rain) for growth and drink, cattle for food....cont
EGYPTWHERETO 7 months ago
@emperor0013
Part 5
Gravity, atmosphere for life & fr our protection, sea(salt) water & river(pure) water never mix so we can drink, male & female so we can reproduce(not to mention love, companionship, enjoyment which means social, psychological & mental satisfaction)
All those got here on their own in the big bang? they all were set up perfectly like that?
bacteria still here to decompose, animals and plants and food chains so we eat.
cont..
EGYPTWHERETO 7 months ago
@EGYPTWHERETO Ok, after your final argument quoting that meaningless verse, I have come to the conclusion that you are a troll. You aren't being serious, you are just wasting my time. You intentionally sound uneducated and formulate utterly flaccid arguments for the purpose of wasting my time. Nothing about that passage from the quran is 'proof' of anything. Your utter misunderstanding of the big bang theory is horrendous. Get the money you spent on your education back, they ripped you off.
emperor0013 7 months ago
@emperor0013
part 6 & last...
All don't point to a creator like when we see a bike we right away know someone built it!
no one with a brain would dare see all that & its perfect comprehensive set up & NOT ADMIT THERE MUST BE A CREATOR!
No matter how much u hate what u hear or saw about religions(I bet it was all bad human action..IF God didn't want it he wouldn't have created a hell fire for punishment, BUT don't forget there is a paradise for reward! so get over their actions!
Why deny him?
EGYPTWHERETO 7 months ago
@EGYPTWHERETO
Your understanding of irreducible complexity is child-like. Your argument has been dismissed entirely by scholars. It seems you hear something you like and refuse to learn counter arguments.
"perfect set up"? Not even remotely close. Most of earth is uninhabitable by humans. We breath, eat, speak and drink through the same hole in our bodies, meaning a percentage of us will die every year choking on our own food. "Perfect"? No.
emperor0013 7 months ago
@EGYPTWHERETO
Growing a beard does not make you pious. Just because a mail man delivers you a message does not mean you dress up like him and follow every aspect of his life, how he dresses, how he shits and how he eats. A beard doesn't make you pious. It is just a look. What makes you pious is your actions. Personally I aint attracted to pubes on the face but it is just a look.
LittleQueenTudor 7 months ago
All the imams in Turkey work for the state. And ever friday the goverments tells them what to say. I would like to see that in other muslim countries. So that morons like this are eradicated. Islam has 99 qualities. This imam doesn't even have 5% of it.
Superageofreason 9 months ago
And many of you Muslims are hypocrites, hostile to other opnions. I know so many hypocrite muslims. I have respect for Allah and the Quran. But many things are not normal into this age and must be adopted to this age. For instance the mosque in many mosque there are no women whatsoever and the imams are living in the dark ages. I will never respect something like that. An imam in Holland said. Our muslim women are laughing with infidel men we should keep them in check. MM that is unacceptable.
Superageofreason 9 months ago
@Superageofreason
I agree with you mate. The quran makes no mention about controlling women in any sense. Merely commands them to be dutiful and respectful to their husbands. All this nonsense about extreme gender segreation and controlling every aspect of a woman's life does not reflect God's teachings or the quran in any sense!
LittleQueenTudor 8 months ago
In Islam there is a verse. There is no pressure in religion (2:256). Lol a classic textbook story use a verse in Quran and misuse for your advantage. You want your wife etc to be covered so that men don't look at her.
Superageofreason 9 months ago
Wow this Hamza Yusuf has no respect whatsover for non muslim women. All women are the same. Hookers are in each group.
Superageofreason 9 months ago
No one has the right to tell a other what to believe in or how to live. That is up to that person and Allah. And speaking about deen. Muslim goverment don't respect sharia because sharia gives women lots of rights. Which are not implemented. And on Hamza Yusuf please give me a break muslim woman are not dishounering themselves by not wearing the hijab.
Superageofreason 9 months ago
I hate people who misuse religion. And I am very against mixing religion and polictics. Secularisme is the only way forward. Turkey and Tunesia are doing a good job on that. Morrokko has made great laws like banning a man marrying for woman, a woman has to atleast 18 to marry instead of 15. And she has a write to divorce.
Giving a 100 lashes for people who cheat. And the one I hate most as a woman is giving 33% to a women. Sharia has some good things as well.
Superageofreason 9 months ago
Well if you read the verse on hijab it says its is better for you. So it is not compulsory. And only reason it stands in the Quran so that women would be protected from men of the 7th century. My name is reason so my if we think about it reasonably then conclusion no need for hijab. Because we don't live in the 7th century. Men will look but nothing compared to the 7th century.
Superageofreason 9 months ago
What really stands in the Quran: “O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.” (Quran 33:59)
Superageofreason 9 months ago
I don't think god requires what one should be wearing. God would want us to treat each other with kindness and respect. What women decide to wear is their prerogative. Whether a woman decides to wear a hijaab or a western dress, she should not be harassed for doing so.
squirtad 9 months ago
Its time to cleanse earth of these subhuman Islamic pigs. This filth destroys humanity
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tigersforchrist 9 months ago
@tigersforchrist You believe in Enoch as a prophet of god don't you? Why don't you read about the wars he took part in, and then call your own prophet a murderer.
Muslims don't just live in the middle east you know, Stop watching fox news and read about the peaceful muslims all over the world.
zubizaretta99 9 months ago
"Not all of you are acting like sahaba and yet, you want the women to act like sahabiyats"....now that is a bold truth!
Neeparr 10 months ago 10
God bless you my brother.
I swear I liked every single word because it is TRUE..
I am a female Muslim and proud to ask that I am wearing Hijab.
I just wanna say "well said" Mr.Yusuf..May Allah bless you and your way in life..Amen
MultiMemo123 10 months ago
hijab is very important because god command us to do so. Just like he command us to pray, avoid alcohol, and illicit intercourse. This in itself is an act of worship because the meaning of Islam is one who submits themselves to god. Also if someone leaves Islam, Allah replaces them with someone far better.
I have now come to the conclusion that this guy is dodgy.
kindiseverything 11 months ago
@kindiseverything Well you obviously have not understood what he has said. He made it clear from the word GO! That it is an Islamic requirement. No questions and no doubts. IT IS ISLAMIC. He asked women to wear it.
The second part of his speech was advicing us how to DEAL with women WHO DO NOT wear the hijab.
It is true women are leaving Islam because they are getting abused by everyone. The non-Muslims abuse them& the Muslims. You have to be kind to ppl not every one is strong.
coralreefuk 10 months ago
@coralreefuk of course you must be kind to people .But you must remember that this life is but a test and for those leaving islam because of this is sad.
kindiseverything 10 months ago
@kindiseverything Yep that is why the good Sheik is asking you to deal with people with wisdom and kindness not be blase about their fear and pain. It is about having an attitude that will help them and encourage them and make their test easier for them.
coralreefuk 10 months ago
u could be hindu, since ur brown n look south asian n are known for controlling ur wifes but its so much tough to be a woman please, Alhumdilliah men in the west dont force hijab, their are fewer muslims, the society is diff this part
MrRuggedboy27 11 months ago
@glory9in9silence, just do yr best. Allah knws the hearts of everyone.
Famousx81 11 months ago
I dnt wear the hijab (yet). I started practicing Islam nearly 2 years ago, although I was born into the faith, and it's had a profound effect on my character, attitude, in ways I never imagined. To all the Muslims, plz hold onto yr imaan b/c w/out it we're empty and do yr best to b good Muslims, insha'ALlah.
Famousx81 11 months ago
Hamza is so gooooooooooooooooooooooo god bless
shaawaful 1 year ago
Love it Mashaa Allah, Allahu Akbar...May Allah swt reward Sheikh Hamza Yusuf for his efforts...Visit me on Facebook if you are interested: "Pathway to heaven". Asalamu Aleikom wa Rahmato Allah wa Barakato...
muslimthanksGod 1 year ago
He's got a very good understanding Mashallah
3BZI 1 year ago
I respect women with hijab more because they deserve it more.
fredfelosofar 1 year ago
@fredfelosofar You respect women with hijab more because they deserve it more? You should respect all women equally. Also just in case you didn't know a head covering does not make someone a better muslim.
hopezain 1 year ago
The amazing Hamza Yusuf. God bless you man.
fredfelosofar 1 year ago
Athough am arab muslim I dnt wear HiJAB i wear watever i like..and Hijab is not the only face of ISLAM, faith in God comes first and then a person try his best to satisfy the Lord to continue the religion of this Tenders, I'm not saying that I am walking in a completely right path, but I know that i am loyal to my God in my religion.(al7amdulellah)
Glory9in9silence 1 year ago
@Glory9in9silence I respect you for that.
Batistta56 1 year ago
Imo he's right. but i miss something.
Dear sisters who wear hijab, please don't think you have done too much, Allah will reward you insha Allah specially because you were wearing it in such hard times. Please don't think "why were i doing this then?" this is not how hamza yusuf meant it.
And i don't like how he's shouting at us everytime, it hurts, he should say it kindly, people will understand. I understand his anger though. May Allah reward him.
Jalal130 1 year ago
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@Jalal130 LOL
what childish junk youre dribbling
WHAT allah...remember we ALL KNOW there isnt a shred of anything,no proof/evidence to support any allah theory...BUT your koran proves the hoax & how muslims are lied to
why should your allah reward him....when your allah obviously DOESNT GIVE A SHIT about millions of innocents who suffer appallingly in your ummah DUE TO islams filth/immorality
you come across as quite stupid
proudfemale 1 year ago
MORE ABOUT ISLAM GO TO YOUTUBE AND SEARCH FOR CHRISTIAN PRINCE OR . JESUS OR MUHAMMAD
paka807 1 year ago
So RANSOMING women is holy? Muhammad got some of his own "wives" like this - Sahih Muslim Book 19 #4292:
…The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) made a raid upon Banu Mustaliq while THEY WERE UNAWARE and their cattle were having a drink...He killed those who fought and imprisoned others. On that very day, he captured Juwairiya bint al-Harith.”
And of course he "married" Safiyya on the day he TORTURED and MURDERED her husband. If a Crusader did this to a Muslim woman, you KNOW you'd agree it was RAPE.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
about safiyya. tortured and murdered?! stop twisting the facts.
He was beheaded along with his son and all of the men of Banu Qurayza
because of their treachery.
as for safiyya herself, you even said Muhammad (PBUH) MARRIED her.
Who equates marriage with rape?!
And the marriage was her choice.
After freeing her, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) gave her the choice between remaining a Jewess and returning to her people or entering Islam and becoming his wife.
She chose to be his wife.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
Bukhari, book 52, number 276:
'...Then the infidels were defeated. BY ALLAH, I saw the women fleeing LIFTING UP THEIR CLOTHES, revealing their leg-bangles and THEIR LEGS. SO, the companions of 'Abdullah bin Jubair said "THE BOOTY! O people, THE BOOTY! ...WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR now?" ..."Have you forgotten what ALLAH'S APOSTLE SAID to you?"
Note, they saw the women's legs & the hadith continues "SO [ie. THEREFORE] (we) said "THE BOOTY" etc. The inference that women were the "booty" is clear.
jontwest 1 year ago
I'm an atheist & I don't believe in the b/s claims of dirty ignorant primitives from thousands of years ago.
Nevertheless, the "Jesus" character of the Christians is COMPLETELY different from Muhammad: Jesus didn't RAPE women, ENSLAVE people, CUT THE HEADS OFF PEOPLE, STONE WOMEN TO DEATH, "marry" 6 YEAR OLD LITTLE GIRLS, TORTURE PEOPLE in order to STEAL their treasure, or insist JIHAD was the duty of his followers.
Muhammad would be serving several life sentences IN JAIL if he lived today.
jontwest 1 year ago
Imagine MUSLIM WOMEN were attacked by Crusaders who invaded their town. Imagine the Chief Crusader writing:
"My men seemed to refrain from having SEX with the MUSLIM WOMEN because of THEIR HUSBANDS...but just then I had a revelation!! God said "It is wrong to have sex with married women, EXCEPT if they are CAPTIVE MUSLIMS! It is a DECREE. Such women are lawful because they are SPOILS OF WAR!"
Would you call that rape? Muhammad's verse is the justification of a FILTHY CRIMINAL, not a "prophet".
jontwest 1 year ago
Islam tells us WHY Muhammad wrote RAPE into his Qur'an
Sahih Muslim 8 #3432:
...Allah's Messenger (pbuh) sent an army to Autas...Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (pbuh) seemed to REFRAIN from HAVING INTERCOURSE with CAPTIVE WOMEN because of THEIR HUSBANDS... Then Allah sent down regarding that QURAN 4.24
"And all married women (are forbidden unto you) EXCEPT THOSE (CAPTIVES) whom your right hands possess. IT IS A DECREE OF ALLAH FOR YOU."
jontwest 1 year ago
@Shadi1007 sorry you couldn't find it - I didn't make it clear enough. The hadith is Bukhari volume 4, Book 52, Number 276. Just look for Book 52 - 'Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)' and scroll down.
The reason Muhammad taught his followers to rape women was partly to justify his own rapes, & give his men a reward for coming out on his raids, but it was also to destroy the tribes so that he could steal their lands & goods (which he also wrote into his Qur'an - see 33.27 for example).
jontwest 1 year ago
please watch this guy,,"""bilal assad priorities of life"" he changed my life...just a few mins of ur life...peace and love
bigsnw10 1 year ago
please watch this guy,, he changed my life...just a few mins of ur life...peace and love all the way
bigsnw10 1 year ago
tell me u atheists seculars christies jews ...
what do u feel when u see a muslima woman covered and what do u feel when u turn around and see a dirty naked piece of meat that is ur girlfriend n ur sister ??!!
nagamora 1 year ago
You talk of the "dirty naked piece of meat that is ur girlfriend n ur sister" & you ask what WE feel about Muslims? You are full of contempt and hatred for others, as your religion teaches you to be. So naturally when we see a Muslim woman it is like seeing someone wearing a Nazi swastika.
You're not natural-born killers or hate-filled maniacs, but Muhammad's teachings make you into this & you become MORE angry because you are so ashamed of yourselves. Leave Islam, and rediscover your humanity.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
@jontwest
We aren't taught contempt & hatred for others, but told to respect people & treat them well, muslims or not, & to say a good word when talking to someone & if you can't, at least just smile, & it shall be recorded as a good dead for you :)
The fact that some muslims hate and treat non-muslims badly doesn't mean they were told to do so in islam.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
You just watched Hamza Yusuf talk of non-Muslim women (from 1.57) "And we're living in a society, people walking around NAKED...I mean, go out there and look at these ANIMALS out there! [crowd laughs] serious, go out there and LOOK at them! Unbelievable!"
And you claim "we aren't taught contempt & hatred for others". What if I said of Muslim women "Look at THESE ANIMALS" etc.
You know this is disgusting contempt. Learn to empathize with non-Muslims, and you will know why Islam is so repulsive.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
You failed to get my point.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
So Hamza isn't teaching Muslims? But if you're referring to Islam's texts, let's start with Muhammad preaching some religious hatred:
Qur'an
5.82
Thou wilt find the most vehement of mankind in HOSTILITY to those who believe (to be) the JEWS and the idolaters....
4.160
For the WICKEDNESS of the JEWS We made unlawful for them certain (foods) good and wholesome...
5.51
...TAKE NOT the Jews and the Christians for friends...Allah guideth not WRONGDOING FOLK.
jontwest 1 year ago
Qur'an
5.72
They do BLASPHEME who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary"...Whoever joins other gods with Allah...the FIRE WILL BE HIS ABODE. There will for the WRONG-DOERS be no one to help.
5.73
THEY DO BLASPHEME who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity...If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily A GRIEVOUS PENALTY will befall the blasphemers among them.
98.6
Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists...are the WORST of creatures.
jontwest 1 year ago
Note I'm not talking about Muhammad's calls for violence,murder, rape etc. You seem to have difficulty empathizing with others, so imagine the verses with 'MUSLIM' in place of 'Jews' etc.
E.g. Imagine a religion with texts "For the WICKEDNESS OF THE MUSLIMS..." Or "They do BLASPHEME who claim Muhammad was a prophet" etc.
More contempt: 2.221 ...Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire... 2.99
We have sent down to thee Manifest Signs and none reject them but THOSE WHO ARE PERVERSE' etc etc
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
1- Profet Muhammed (PBUH) does not call for violence, rape or murder =/ He calls for peace and everything good in a humans.
2- When I'm walking in a path and I come across a cat, I walk in a different path so as not to frighten it, surely I empathize with humans.
2- You see it that way because you don't believe in islam.
But if you created people and gave them life and the earth and it's wealth, and they did not believe in you.
If you created all of this and
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
I think we must agree that if you teach that people are wicked, and that they are blasphemers, and that blasphemers should be executed, then you're teaching hatred and contempt.
Thank you for acknowledging that Muslims aren't permitted to be good friends with anyone else. When that fact becomes widely known in civilized countries, we will finally stop allowing Muslims to come live with us - it can only lead to disharmony.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
we aren't allowed to take people of other religions as best friends, but we should treat eveyone well.
People you choose to be your best friends say a bit about who you are.
It won't work anyway, how can I be bestfriends with someone who thinks and believes in totally different things than me, who drinks and does many things I shouldn't do and thus won't accompany her in.
How can not being best friends with certain people cause disharmony -.-
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@jontwest
We are not taught to hate anyone ! That would contradict with treating everyone well and with living in peace.
When my parents point out something bad about my friends I don't end up hating them, I just take care.
I am muslim and thank God I don't hate anyone for their religion or anything, I might hate murderers and people who do inhuman things, which is for their actions not for their beliefs.
What you said proves you know nothing about islam.
If you did you'd know that
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
Try to use empathy. Imagine a religion teaches people "Do not be good friends with Muslims, because they are blasphemers and wrong-doers". You must KNOW that this will lead to demonization of Muslims.
Now, how many people who teach their children about the evils of Muslims would you want to immigrate into Islamic countries? Please think about it, & answer honestly. (See my top favorite on the right-hand side of my page 'UK Islamic School', & you will learn more about what Islam teaches.)
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
God (SWT) created us and gave us this life as a test.
He told us how to live in the best life possible, and how to earn heaven or hell.
It's a test where people should chose to use their minds and gain the knowledge needed to believe or not and chose to obey God or not.
And accordingly pass or fail the test.
If God (SWT) showed himself it would surely spoil the test.
It would be too clear and no one will chose to diobey him.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 but if people "use their minds and gain knowledge" they will NOT believe. Muhammad's Qur'an contains demonstrable falsehoods which PROVE it's a con. E.g
96.2 Created man, out of a (mere) CLOT of congealed BLOOD.
"Allah" was ignorant about the egg and spermatozoa?
27.18 ...when they reached the Valley of the Ants, an ant exclaimed: "O ants! Enter your dwellings lest Solomon and his armies crush you, unperceiving."
Talking ants?! A "god" wouldn't make such laughable errors.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
evidence of God's existance (SWT) however is so clear to whoever really wishes to know the truth.
Everything happens for a good reason, but our human minds aren't capable of understanding everything.
It happened a lot when I thought something to be bad for me, and it turned out to be for my best interest or it turned out the best out of two bad's.
and for the verse you assume permits rape =/
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xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@jontwest
Here's the translation
"Also forbidden for you are married women, except those who have fallen in your hands as prisoners of war. This is the order of Allah relating to marriage prohibitions. All women other than these are lawful provided you seek them in marriage with gifts from your property (dowry), desiring chastity and not lust. Give them their dowry as an
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
Did you READ the hadith which EXPLAINS how 4.24 came to be invented? Using EMPATHY, imagine Crusaders capture some Muslim women.
'The Crusaders seemed to refrain from having intercourse with the Muslims because of their husbands. Then the Chief Crusader had a REVELATION! "God said all married women are forbidden EXCEPT CAPTIVE WOMEN - and it is a DECREE!! All women OTHER THAN THESE are lawful provided you seek them in marriage"
You agree that sex with these MARRIED MUSLIM WOMEN would be rape?
jontwest 1 year ago
Here's how Muhammad decreed RAPE in his Qur'an.
Sahih Muslim 8 #3432:
...Allah's Messenger (pbuh) sent an army to Autas...Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (pbuh) seemed to REFRAIN from HAVING INTERCOURSE with CAPTIVE WOMEN because of THEIR HUSBANDS... Then Allah sent down regarding that (Qur'an 4.24)"And all married women (are forbidden unto you) EXCEPT THOSE (CAPTIVES) whom your right hands possess. IT IS A DECREE OF ALLAH FOR YOU."
jontwest 1 year ago
Also see Qur'an 33.50
'O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and THOSE (captives) whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as SPOILS OF WAR...thou mayst be free from BLAME, for Allah is ever Forgiving..."
What sort of "god" would call women SPOILS OF WAR?! Clearly, Muhammad wanted to rape non-Muslim women and because RAPE was a CRIME, he pretended "Allah" let him, and told him that he wasn't to BLAME. Disgusting.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
and btw nothing in the arabic words of the verse is translated as "spoils of war"
where did you get this translation from ?? =/
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
More on raping women on Muhammad's say-so:
Bukhari 4,52, 276
..Then the infidels were defeated. By Allah, I saw the women fleeing lifting up their clothes REVEALING THEIR LEG-BANGLES AND THEIR LEGS. So, the companions of 'Abdullah bin Jubair said "THE BOOTY! O people, THE BOOTY! Your companions have become victorious, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR now?" ..."Have you forgotten what ALLAH'S APOSTLE SAID to you?" They replied, "BY ALLAH! We will go to the enemy and collect our share from the war booty."
jontwest 1 year ago
If rape victims got pregnant the RANSOM was more difficult to get. Muhammad had some advice:
Malik's Muwatta Bk 29, #29.32.95:
...Abu Said al-Khudri said '...We took some Arabs prisoner, and we desired the women as celibacy was hard for us. WE WANTED THE RANSOM, so WE WANTED TO PRACTISE COITUS INTTERUPTUS.... We asked him about that and HE SAID 'You don't have to NOT do it [EJACULATE]. There is no self which is to come into existence up to the Day of Rising but that it will come into existence."
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
I already told you it makes sense because being best friends with a person of a religion other than ours won't work. I explained why.
We still should treat everyone kindly.
I am thinking about it but you aren't getting me.
You need to understand the difference I speak of when I say friends or bestfriends.
Through my life I have been friends with some christians.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
Yes, you explained why you couldn't be good friends with non-Muslims, but you didn't answer my question: How many NON-Muslims would you like to see emigrate into Islamic countries, if those NON-Muslims are taught to view Muslims in the SAME WAY as Islam teaches Muslims to view NON-Muslims?
I think I know your answer: None. This shows that Islam is a disgrace to all humanity - it necessarily drives people apart. Any other religious people can get along, knowing their differences are superficial.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
friends as in we talk every once and a while, are nice to each other, I help her when I can, but they never got to the extend of being my bestfriends.
It just won't work, cause of the differences in beliefs and in things we are allowed to do.
In verse [96-2]
the word used in the verse is "عَلَقٍ".
The most appropriate meaning of the word in arabic is "a thing that clings to some place." The word is literally used to describe leeches that cling to a body to suck blood.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
Nonetheless, Muslims are of course as innately decent & intelligent as any other people, and are almost always raised in Muhammad's religion without free choice, and without knowing all that Islam stands for. And of course some Muslims don't agree with all that Islam teaches.
You said earlier you empathize with animals - this is something to be proud of, and it shows your natural morality. I think you need to reconsider your allegiance to Islam's teachings of executing apostates, atheists etc.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
This supports the following fact >>
"When the sperm of the male unites with the ovum of the female, the essence of the baby to be born is formed. This single cell, known as a "zygote" in biology, will instantly begin reproducing by dividing, and eventually become a "piece of flesh," called an embryo.
The embryo, however, does not spend its developmental period in a void. It clings to the uterus, with something like roots that is firmly fixed to the earth by its tendrils.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
Re. Qur'an 96.2 - 'Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood' - you need to ask "Does this demonstrate the knowledge of a god, or a man?"
Muhammad didn't have access to microscopes to know that life begins NOT with a CLOT of blood, but with the egg & spermatozoa.
If we are to believe the Qur'an is dictated by "Allah" and not by a man, we must see evidence. But it contains NOTHING that suggests a god wrote it. - i.e. nothing that WASN'T known at the time. AND it contains many errors.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
Through this bond, the embryo can obtain the substances essential to its development from the mother's body."
Concerning verse [27-18]
Animals make a wide variety of sounds, from the musical song of a bird to the howl of the wolf,to the contented purr of a cat.
While they are unable to talk in the sense that humans do, they do communicate with sound in a way that is understood only by other members of their own species.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 certainly animals communicate, but a study of an ant's mouthparts reveals that it is INCAPABLE of exclaiming the human name "Solomon!" - e.g. it doesn't have the tongue necessary for the "L" sound.
A "god" would know this, but a primitive man wouldn't - hence the error.
Even Aisha expressed doubts about Muhammad's Qur'an - Bukhari Book 60, # 311:
“…when Allah revealed…[Qur'an 33.51] I said (to the Prophet), "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires."
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
Animals might not have a "proper" language in which to communicate, but they do communicate and in an amazing variety of ways.
A report in the science magazine says" Advances in audio technology have enabled scientists to discover that ants routinely talk to each other in their nests.
The findings were reported in the journal Science Hills are alive with the sound of ants — talking to each other - Times Online
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
Other admissions of fraud: Bukhari Book 52, Number 69:
'...For thirty days Allah's Apostle invoked Allah to curse those who had killed the companions of Bir-Mauna; he invoked evil upon the tribes of Ral, Dhakwan, and Usaiya who disobeyed Allah and His Apostle. There was REVEALED about those who were killed at Bir-Mauna a QURANIC VERSE we used to recite, but it was CANCELLED LATER ON...'
So "Allah" made a mistake? Again, clearly the work of a man.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
ants exceed us at acoustic communication. Scientists expect that ant uses antennas to send and receive acoustic vibrations. The ant amplifies the received signals like the advanced receiving devices Moreover, it removes sounds overlapping , so it makes filtration or clarification to the sound to distinguish it from another.
This is a very developed communication system that was unknown to scientists and they only discovered it a few years ago.
So not an error at all.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
Bukhari Book 61#512
'There was REVEALED [Quran 4.95]
The Prophet said "Write: 'Not equal are those Believers who sit.." and at that time...the blind man was sitting behind the Prophet . He said "O Allah's Apostle! What is your order For me...as I am a blind man?"
So INSTEAD OF THE ABOVE VERSE the following Verse was revealed:
'Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) EXCEPT those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame etc.) and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah.'
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
Concerning verse [4-24] I already gave you the proper translation of the verse, and explained it, and you are clearly wrong, and Shadi replied to your point about the hadith.
Conclusion : Rape isn't supported in islam, but punished.
concerning the very last part.
* First
Is this authentic?.
Some hadiths are week, and not trustworthy, and shouldn't be taken into consideration.
This doesn't go with the explanation of verse [4-24], nor with [24-32]
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
The hadith re 4.24 is clear - the men wouldn't have sex with MARRIED non-Muslim captives, but Muhammad wanted them to, so he "revealed" a decree that married non-Muslims aren't considered married when you capture them - to get around the rules on ADULTERY.
You would agree with me that if Crusaders had done this to MUSLIM WOMEN, it would be an admission of RAPE - given most married women don't want to have sex with men who have just killed their husbands, and enslaved them and their children.
jontwest 1 year ago
Islam & rape - from ex-Muslim Walid Shoebat:
"...students used to ask our teacher, Na’eem Ayyad, during our Islamic studies...if it were permitted for Muslims to RAPE the Jewish women after we defeated them. His response was "The women captured in battle have no choice in this matter, they are concubines and they need to obey their masters, HAVING SEX WITH SLAVE CAPTIVES is NOT A MATTER OF CHOICE for slaves." He said that sexual intercourse with Jewish captives does not have to be consensual.'
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
Gosh it's like you didn't even read what I said.
I hope you aren't arguing for the sake of it because I am busy and this is taking time.
First of all I am egyptian.
You live in Canada, I assume you don't understand arabic.
I speak arabic the language of the quran, and so I understand it more than you do, as well as prophet Muhammad's sayings (PBUH).
You need to understand that not all the english translations are correct.
translating arabic to english isn't easy, and sometimes
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@jontwest
during translation there are several meanings for a word, and a less appropriate definition is used which gives a diff meaning.
Sometimes people use wrong words deliberately.
Also taking a verse without the relating verse(s) can change the meaning.
We also need to take the relating saying of prophet Muhammad (PBUH), it sometimes further explains a verse.
Having that said I will reply to what I know of since I don't know everything, I will try to though.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@jontwest
about verse [4-24]
I already said TWICE I believe that the verse allows marriage of thos slaves not just having sex with them or raping them -.-
The verse coming as it does after the enumeration of prohibited degrees of relationship, is meant to stress the prohibition of sexual relations with any woman other than one's lawful wife.
20 hours ago
you said : "Imagine MUSLIM WOMEN were attacked by Crusaders who invaded their town."
dude no one is attacked.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
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jontwest 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 there's much more to discuss, and I will PROVE Islam's texts tell us of Muhammad actively enslaving people, or raping Safiyya, wife of Kinana, who Muhammad had tortured and beheaded, or Muhammad stoning women to death, or chopping the heads off women, or chopping their hands off, or INVADING other's lands and STEALING them (justified in 33.27) etc.
However, I want to resolve 4.24. Do you agree that it is SPECIFICALLY worded to ALLOW "adultery" with MARRIED CAPTIVES?
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
I didnt even finish replying to your previous. guessing it wouldn't make much difference though.
I am very serious.
the name of surah 96 is "Al-Alaq"
Your point?
Yes I am saying that ants can communicate and understand the name Soliman in their own way.
the fact that it wasn't specifaclly proved yet doesn't mean it's false. It only means we humans haven't come to the means of proving it yet.
There came a time when the earth was thought to be flat you know.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 "Al-Alaq" - 'The CLOT'. Agreed? Now, here's Ibn Ishaq on how Muhammad captured Safiyya:
"...the Apostle rode out with sixteen hundred followers on an expedition against the Jewish tribe of Khaybar, about one hundred miles distant...We met a few labourers going forth early to their work, bearing spades and baskets, and when they beheld the Apostle with his army they cried out and fled. The Apostle said "Allah Akbar! Khaybar will be destroyed."
jontwest 1 year ago
Ibn Ishaq (continued):
"The Apostle occupied the Jewish forts one after the other, taking prisoners as he went. Among these were Safiya, THE WIFE OF KINANA, the Khaybar chief, and two female cousins; the Apostle CHOSE SAFIYA FOR HIMSELF. The other prisoners were distributed among the Muslims...KINANA, the HUSBAND of Safiya, had been guardian of the tribe's treasures, and he was brought before the Apostle, who asked where they were hidden. But Kinana refused to disclose the place...
jontwest 1 year ago
Ibn Ishaq (continued):
'...The Apostle ordered the ruin to be dug up, and some of the treasure was found. After that Kinana was asked again about the remainder, but he still refused to tell. The APOSTLE OF ALLAH handed him over to al‑Zubayr, saying, 'TORTURE HIM until he tells what he knows', and al‑Zubayr kindled a fire on his chest so that he almost expired; then the Apostle gave him to Muhammad b. Maslama, who STRUCK OFF HIS HEAD....The PLUNDER of Khaybar...was greater than any before...
jontwest 1 year ago
Bukhari, Book 59, Number 513:
...The Prophet TOOK SAFIYA as a CAPTIVE. He manumitted her and married her. Thabit asked Anas, "What did he give her as Mahr (i.e. marriage gift)?" Anas replied. "Her Mahr was herself, for he manumitted her."
Book 62, Number 22
'The Prophet stayed for three days between Khaibar and Medina, and there he consummated his marriage to Safiyya bint Huyai.'
If a Crusader tortured & murdered the husband of a MUSLIM woman, then had sex with her it would be RAPE - right?
jontwest 1 year ago
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xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
Yes I am saying that.
I'm guessing many clips say this.
I don't believe everything that's said certainly true until I look into it and info about it from many different places, then I think for myself.
I did do quuite much searching about this topic.
The hadiths should be followed.
The trusted authentic ones though.
I found a long proof that killing of an apostate whose apostasy accompanies a conflict with the Muslims is permissible. fights muslims, creates devision or so.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@jontwest
It contains proof that the first hadith is not reliable as it should be, has weaknesses.
and as for the second hadith, it states that killing an apostate (notice there is a condition too!) is PERMISSIBLE.
Not prescribed.
There is a significant difference.
As for the second (part of) hadith you gave,
The proof contains a very similar hadith in muslim:
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@jontwest
Abu Bakr bin Abi Shaybah narrated to us: Hafs bin Ghayath and Abu Mu‘awiyah and Waki‘ related to us from al-A‘mash from ‘Abd Allah bin Murrah from Masruq from ‘Abd Allah (bin Mas‘ud) who said: The Messenger of God said: ‘The blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god but God and that I am his Messenger is not lawful except in one of three cases:
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@jontwest
a person who, being married, commits zina, a person for (the murder) of another, and a person who abandons his religion and separates from jama‘ah (of Muslims)." (Muslim 3175) ]
were it is clerified to not being about apostasy alone.
Also there are several hadiths showing apostates that weren't killed or ordered to be killed by Muhammad (PBUH).
The Prophet’s attitude towards a prescribed penalty reportedly was that he would apply it even if his daughter Fatimah committed the crime.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
You say of the hadith you quoted "were it is clerified to not being about apostasy alone". If you would please READ the hadith, it SPECIFICALLY says Muslims cannot be killed "except in ONE of three cases"
This means any ONE of the three cases mentioned will get a Muslim killed by Islam. And one of the three is if a Muslim "abandons his religion".
This violent idiocy alone will one day have Islam banned from civilized countries. People are not to blame if they lose the ability to believe.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
So if this was really ordered prophet Muhammad (PBUH) would be the first to apply it wouldn't he?
I can't possibly write the details of the proof here it is too long for that.
I can send it to you if you wish though.
Dude the prophet (PBUH) is very special.
He went through so much, and carried out such a great and hard mission, and was such an amazing person in so many ways.
Surely there had to be rules specially for him.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@jontwest
And about verse [33-30] I don't get what is convenient about this for sexual pleasure O.o
plus it is understandable.
Doing an immoral conduct when you are married to the finest example of pleasing God, the finest example of man, is worse than other case.
And for verse [8-1]
The term nafl (of which anfal is the plural) denotes, in its purely linguistic sense, "an accretion or addition received beyond one's due" or
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 certainly 33.30 wasn't invented for sexual pleasure - I was making the point that the Qur'an is CLEARLY invented for Muhammad's benefit. Why would a "god", supposedly writing a book for BILLIONS and BILLIONS of people, for ALL TIME, put in that book verses specifically about a man who only had a few years to live?
Clearly, it was MUHAMMAD threatening his captive wives with DOUBLE the penalty that ordinary wives would get, if they transgressed in any of the ways HE did!
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
"something given in excess of one's obligation" (from which latter meaning the term salat an-nafl - i.e., a "supererogatory prayer" - is derived).
In its plural form anfal, which occurs in the Qur'an only in the above verse, this word signifies "spoils of war", in as much as such spoils are an incidental accession above and beyond anything that a mujahid ("a fighter in God's cause") is entitled to expect.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@jontwest
Not the whole war booty.
This can't be taken against Muhammad (PBUH) and his sincerity.
Also quran can't ever possibly be written by man anyway.
Because of 1- The way it is written 2- The verses going with scientific facts that couldn't possibly be known at Muhammad's time (PBUH).
I doubt you can prove anything bad.
didn't I already say Muhammad (PBUH) married safiyya by her concent. how is that raping?
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@jontwest
The stoning you are talking about..
I'm assuming it's in the case of sexual relations without marriage "Zina"? and chopping of the hands is for stealing?\
If so then what's the problem?
These are punishments for crimes.
There are punishments for laws being broken everywhere not related to religion.
Rules and punishments aren't wrong.
again with the adultery ! I already explained twice the verse speaks of marriage not adultery.
This can go on forever =/
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@jontwest
I really don't care what you believe just don't spread wrong information about Islam, or any reigion as a matter of fact.
There's two sides to everything make sure you read all different sides, and find out the truth.
Peace.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 so, Islam's OWN TEXTS tell us Muhammad rode out 100 MILES on what he called "expeditions" to INVADE other people's lands, STEAL their land and goods, and RAPE and ENSLAVE and MURDER and TORTURE the people.
The sad fact is, you are so blinded by the allegiance to Muhammad you were raised with, that you will excuse ANY crime. E.g. you continue to approve of "marriages" for sex with CAPTIVE women who ALREADY have husbands. Disgraceful and disgusting. I believe you're better than that.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
NO one of the three cases is >>
"a person who abandons his religion and separates from jama‘ah (of Muslims)"
THERE IS A CONDITION.
the meaning is that killing of an apostate whose apostasy accompanies a conflict with the Muslims is permissible.
I already explained how 33:3 makes sense.
NO NOT AGREED ALAQ AS I PREVIOUSLY SAID isn't apropriately translated to "clot", but is appropriately defined as "a leechlike mass", or "a clinging entity"
will you read what I'm writing?
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
Some ulema-certified translations of 96.2
Yusufali: Created man, out of a (mere) CLOT of congealed blood:
Shakir: He created man from a CLOT.
Pickthall: Createth man from a CLOT.
You know better than the ulema? In any case, YOUR translation STILL doesn't make sense. "Createth man from a LEECHLIKE MASS" is completely WRONG, & doesn't even recognize that TWO cells are required.
Neither sperm or egg is a leechlike mass. A real "god" would've written "Created man from an egg AND a spermatozoon"
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
Some Ulema also defined it as I said.
I don't declare I have more knowledge but I know for a fact since I speak arabic that the definition I gave is the most apropriate.
and it does go with a scientific fact I previously mentioned and which you obviously don't wih to read.
Go learn some scientific facts about the matter then you will understand.
this verse indicates "a" scientific fact, but quran isn't a science book to tell you all the facts of how man is created.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
Regarding Islam killing Muslims for apostasy, you are WRONG if that an apostate can only be killed if there is war. You see, Muhammad considered his religion CONSTANTLY at WAR until it rules the rest of us 5.5 billion people. So a Muslim who leaves Islam can be the most peaceful person in the world, but because Islam considers itself at war, it still preaches the person should be killed.
E.g. See wikipedia for the EGYTIAN convert from Islam, Mohammed Hegazy, who has had numerous death threats.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
I didn't say only oif there is war, please read what I wrote again.
don't talk to me about what muslims threat or do I am talking about the religion not it's followers.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
As you know, conversion away from Islam is punishable by death in Egypt - in accordance with Islamic Law. Thus, the death threats Mohammed Hegazy has received have been from ISLAMIC CLERICS, and under the same fatwa, Hegazy's daughter Miriam will be killed at the age of 10 if she does not choose Islam.
So please stop lying about Islam. YOU and EVERY Muslim KNOWS that the penalty for leaving Muhammad's killer-cult is DEATH, and dozens of Islamic clerics are on Youtube confirming this.
jontwest 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 yes yes, you SHOW how sick/dirty/INSECURE islam really is with this hideous nonsense of MURDER of people who have more intelligence/integrity than most who remain shackled by the hoax/cult of islam
of course the clinging aspect was known well before your koran
AND WHAT is the drop it refers to when it says 'humans are created from a drop emitted from between backbone/ribs" LOL
WHAT drop...and why does it NEVER MENTION ovum or fertilisation
proudfemale 1 year ago
@proudfemale
what nonsense of murder?
Killing in cases such as self-defense, fighting opression, or treason isn't murder.
how was it known before the quran?
Which verse are you referring to?
I haven't memorised the whole quran, but don't expect it to mention every scientific fact, because it isn't a science book.
It's mainly to guide people to the best way of life.
It does however contain verses matching scientific facts that couldn't have been known at it's time like expanding of the universe
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 killing for non belief,adult consensual love IS MOST DEFINITELY MURDER
SPECIFY anything 'clearly written/accurate' in koran that you are claiming couldnt have been known LOL
you dribble such junk BECAUSE you dont have a clue what was known well before your man made book
WHY do you think VAST MAJORITY of worlds brightest intellects, i.e. scientists, arent muslim...but atheist
best way of life LOL....to be LIED TO/shackled by taught fears LOL?
proudfemale 1 year ago
@proudfemale
my dear, a lot of people misunderstand, & misinterpret Islam, including muslims. many just follow what others say. & btw scholars differ in opinion about certain things because guess what people are'nt perfect & they are different, & how someone understands something is affected by how one thinks, & one's intensions. You should gain knowledge and think for yourself. To know what Islam truely is you can only judge it by understanding the quran and authentic hadiths properly.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 Im NOT your dear...so dont try such childish junk
a lot of people FULLY UNDERSTAND the hoax of islam, and how cruel/sick/immoral/dirty it really is...including many who are born into your ummah
yes yes...we do judge islam by your koran and hadiths LOL
re consensual love...WHY should islam dictate who you can love
girls are denied childhoods..given to old men for use/abuse/beating..without love OR INFORMED consent
yes, murder for CONSENSUAL LOVE between adults too
proudfemale 1 year ago
@proudfemale
1- Death penalty isn't solely for apostasy, but apostasy accompanied with treason.
2- About the consensual love you speak of, Yes in Islam love is only allowed between husband & wife. You can't just "love" whoever you want to, maybe get pregnant, and maybe the guy will leave you alone with a baby.
These are the rules and punishments applied by "an Islamic government" it's not murder. If you don't like the rules simply don't live under the protection of an islamic government
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 muslim females get left with babies...and we see tiny tots BEGGING in streets discarded by parents/other muslims as the product of temp marriage ceremonies performed by your dirty imams
you STUPID girl...trying to come across as some kind of intellectual when you clearly are nothing of the sort...telling me to 'think for myself' LOL
its those with brains and who THINK for themselves who leave the hoax of islam IF THEY CAN
the weak remain shackled
proudfemale 1 year ago
@proudfemale
Most verses matching scientific facts aren't plain & clear, cause again it's not a science book, however, so many verses clearly imply knowing of scientific facts.
"AND IT IS We who have built the universe with [Our creative] power; and, verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it." [51-47]
<< universe expanding! tell me it was known.
I don't know ask the muslims one by one, & tell me, but that's off point isn't it?
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 please dont LIE
koran doesnt say expanding at all...it says vast
you OOZE dishonesty...your prick mohammed taught penalty for non belief/turning away is MURDER - and how can not believing taught stories be treason LOL
what makes you SO WEAK, SO VERY DISHONEST and so supportive of MURDER that you dont have a problem with MURDER of innocent people who are smarter/stronger than yourself
proudfemale 1 year ago
@proudfemale
Yes best way of life :) no lies and shackeling by taught fears, those are human acts, verbs don't apply on a religion, on a book.
If Muslims were shackeled by fears, you wouldn't find so many of them if not most, violating the rules of their religion hun..
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 lol...what makes you think they 'violate' the rules lol
islam gives males RIGHTS TO BEAT FEMALES
girls are denied childhoods BECAUSE your prick mohammed was a pedo
muslims are taught they will be rewarded with virgins for KILLING for an allah
yes, muslims ARE SHACKLED by taught fears...scared silly of a mythical allah or not following comically INNANE rules/commands
koran PROVES muslims are LIED TO - so dont dribble your childish nonsense to me
proudfemale 1 year ago
I know many muslims violate rules of Islam, because I see them doing things that violate the rules of Islam.
Beating a wife is a third resort to avoid devorce, it shouldn't inflict pain, as explained by hadith of Muhammad (PBUH), it's more accurately described as a gentle tap on the body, more of a symbolic measure than a punitive one.
The marriage of Aisha was an acception.
91% of Muhammad's wives (PBUH) were 17 years and older, and 75% were widows.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 you DIRTY DIRTY wimp....BEATING is NOT a genle tap...dont LIE
and islam SHOWS ALL HOW SICK IT IS when it gives males rights to BEAT....you LIE AGAIN - a male only has to 'perceive' his wife is disobedient
let me assure you 'abuse' ALWAYS CAUSES PAIN, LIFE LONG SCARS, SHAME, DEGREDATION
you DIRTY DIRTY woman - supporting the filth of islam
aisha 'acception' - you mean exception surely...to what!
she was a tiny tot ...just 6 yo when he INSISTED he have her
proudfemale 1 year ago
@proudfemale
"Killing for allah" is in cases where it's rightful, such as self defense, and fighting oppression. Islam is completely against murder and suicide.
It is not wrong to acknowledge the power of your creator and fear him, but we are'nt shackled by taught fears.
You can't fear what you can't see or prove exists scientifically, or through one's senses, or through expieriencing a unique affect, out of being taught to.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@proudfemale
Those who fear Allah, fear him because they truely believe in him, and there must be a good reason behind that.
Those so called lies or errors of the quran, always turn out to be out of human deffeciency.
I am not lying. Obviously you don't know arabic.
the word used in verse [51-47] is "لَمُوسِعُونَ" check it out yourself, it's a verb not in any way an adjective.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@proudfemale
Again I'm not dishonest. If so, then how come there are authentic hadiths showing that apostates were left unharmed?
If death penalty was for apostates in general the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) would be the first to carry that out or order it be done.
And btw hadiths can't violate what's said in the quran and the quran clearly says there's no compulsion in religion.
the death penalty of death was for apostasy "accompanied with treason" , joining the enemy against Islam.
xxyellaxx92 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 you ARE dishonest
your dirty prick mohammed INSTRUCTED penalty for non belief/turning away is MURDER
are yoou prepared to state on here that when all 4 schools of islamic jurisprudence support it, that there IS NO penalty for apostacy???
your mohammed SHOWED the compulsion...koran has many irregularities/contradictions of course
and no, it WASNT for treason at all
you LIE - WHY
we know how evil/insecure islam is
proudfemale 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 WHY are you too scared to post the other koranic verses re 'killing' for non belief
you come across as pitifully wea/stupid/DISHONEST which shows your desperation
so youre now saying that MURDER for adult consensual love/homosexuality/non belief is about SELF DEFENCE eh?
dont lie...your dirty prick mohammed WAS A MURDERER of innocents
so dont delude yourself that islam is against murder...remember, there is NO penalty for killing one's offspring
how sick
proudfemale 1 year ago
@xxyellaxx92 "If death penalty was for apostates in general the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) would be the first to carry that out or order it be done" (your words)
its WHAT THE SCUMBAG INSTRUCTED
he himself MURDERED innocents just because they didnt accept what he 'went' to offer them
you dont even know the islam that you DRIBBLE on about lol
why do you think all 4 schools AND muslims support MURDER for apostacy
why do you think MILLIONS are forced to be living a lie??? its sick
proudfemale 1 year ago