Mass Protests in South Korea Over Free Trade Deal

[jaeknyc]

Also they have more people like ron paul and kucinich in politics but with short tempers. Im a korean american living in ny.

[jaeknyc]

Imo and i say agen imo koreans get riled up like that because they are a small country like israel and have been enslaved before by japanese and kp(korean pride) kicks in real fast and they get defensive. Also one thing u must know about koreans is that they complain and protest quite often. Also the scene with the tear gas in parliament, koreans have short tempers and are emotional people, its in their blood (ever watch a kor drama? Mostly because of the history of kor). Also they have more pe

[canyouguesswhy]

You have to understand why Koreans don't want to enforce FTA.

The poisonous clauses don't applied in FTA between developed countries.

Also, on FTA between Korea and EU, they didn't talk anything about poisonous clauses.

So it has a lot of contradiction, but some rich people want to enforce FTA for their benefits.

[canyouguesswhy]

It is very unfair to Korea. But rich people in Korea, include Lee-myung-bak(the president of Korea) push ahead with FTA only for their benefits. They don't think about normal citizens' disadvantages.



[canyouguesswhy]

Americans have to know what is bad about FTA to Koreans.

There is an poisonous clauses in FTA

It is very unfair for Korea. So it means America want to get a lot of benefits from Korea even if Korea's economy became crushed.

The most best point for poisonous clauses' bad thing is that American company which invested to Korea can sue Korea for their disadvantages to the tertiary organizations. It incapacitate Korean laws. Then, strong American companies would 100% win on the trial.

[tehatemachine]

There is nothing wrong with free trade. As some of these morons might have realized. We humans have been doing it with each other for THOUSANDS of years. Protectionism doesn't work.

[avecgloire]

@tehatemachine Free Trade Agreements do not always work. It makes smaller, weaker nations to be dependent on larger nations they are having an agreement with.  It destroys the economy.

[tehatemachine]

@avecgloire It really depends. If this is being pushed and heavily subsidized by government, which South korea has done alot in the past. Then the person on the otherside has everything to benefit with goods being produced at far lower costs. So if America exports goods cheaper than south korea at far cheaper prices yet is being subsidized by it's very own government, What on earth does korea have to loose? We are the ones wasting our money on subsidizing. South korea benefits

[avecgloire]

@tehatemachine yes, i agree that much of it "does" depend on subsidies. However, in most cases one side or the other ends up losing. How can u say that there is nothing wrong with "free trade." Unless the all nations have a joint economy, which is unlikely, free trade agreements will not always be beneficial. Today, nations' economies are too closely linked to each other.

[tehatemachine]

@avecgloire "However, in most cases one side or the other ends up losing." That term within it' self is Not true in any way at all. Life has NEVER been geared towards the zero sum theory. Free trade benefits both sides, Koreans get cheaper produce, united states gets won traded into dollars, and are able to purchase higher quantities with lower costs, Those higher quantities can be used for anything they please. They could simply cook it, or process it into various other products

[tehatemachine]

@avecgloire And the people working for those companies based int he U.S that gain from revenue, Spend theirs on something else like maybe a samsung TV, Or other products in return. That currency doesn't stay put like everyone things. Trade is exchanging something for something else.

[tehatemachine]

@avecgloire but overall unsubsidized free trade in NO WAY destroys any economy, it's the invisible hand that gives life to it. You look across the whole entire world every well developed nation that there ever was became what it was as a result of it. To singapore and all the way over to honk kong, Down to bankok. East towards tokyo. All societies that benefited from free trade, Unless it's state controlled then the state looses power to the hands of the individuals.

[meatvegi]

Fuck fucking stupid Korean fucks

[avecgloire]

@meatvegi Koreans are just trying to prevent a lopsided trade agreement.

[marshviperXwins]

@Tom15452 Also, multiculturalism is a *failed* policy. Fact. EU leaders including, David Cameron, Nicolas Sarkozy, and Angela Merkel have all officially announced multiculturalism as a failure. Search Google if you don't believe me. The problem now is that the public is still brainwashed into thinking it's a good thing and won't voluntarily give up their precious ideology. And the people who originally created multiculturalism are still pumping it out in TV and advertising.

[FeelFree3]

If Korean believes they make better products than the US they shouldn't worries about free trade.

[OpenTheTrollGate]

♖♘♗♔♕♗♘♖ checkmates

[CappitranoBellephant]

Holy shit their protest kick the shit out of our protests. All it took was one corrupt free trade policy for them to start shit up and in the US we had to wait until people started going homeless LOL. On top of that THEY are the ones launching tear gas at their officials instead of being hit with tear gas. I've never said this before in my life but Korea has the right idea here.

[marshviperXwins]

@CappitranoBellephant The reason the Koreans are quick to protest against corruption with vigor is because they are not a divided people.

Multiculturalism in America keeps people divided, and keeps true unification and strength from every being realized.

[VaajXyooj]

@marshviperXwins Multiculturalism doesn't divide people. Racism and bigotry divide people.

[marshviperXwins]

@VaajXyooj Hahahahahaha. Koreans living in South Korea are extremely xenophobic. They are race realists. And yet according to you, that should divide them? I don't see any division. I only see a person, yourself, who has fallen for the lie of multiculturalism.

[VaajXyooj]

@marshviperXwins I didn't propose anything to divide anyone, so as far as I'm concerned, you're making assumptions out of thin air. But tell me, what evidence do you have to show for the claim that Koreans are not a "divided" people and "multiculturalism" keeps America divided?

[marshviperXwins]

@VaajXyooj South Korea is monocultural. Fact. This video is some proof, the very fact that they are able to organize this quickly on a specific issue and stick to the issue instead of devolving into a protest pushing the different agendas shows strength. Unlike the Occupy Wallstreet protests which used to be about the 99% against the banking elite, about changing monetary policy. But now it's nothing more than a mouthpiece for feminism, multiculturalism, homosexuality, communism and anarchism.

[marshviperXwins]

@VaajXyooj And if multiculturalism is so good, how come most African, Middle Eastern, and Asian countries are all monocultural and are actively refusing to adopt multicultural policies? How come only European countries and former European colonies are multicultural? If White Europeans are so racist, why are White European countries filled to the brim with non-White foreigners?

[CappitranoBellephant]

@marshviperXwins I'm not sue what you are saying. They are definitely divided in fact they are divided into north and south Korea. If what you say is true then China should be doing this every day. This one instance doesn't prove multiculturalism is hurting anything. You are looking at this in a very short sighted manner.

[CappitranoBellephant]

@VaajXyooj He's a race realist don't waste too much time on him. Koreans could be said are all the same race but if anyone could claim division it's Korea. They divided into north and south Korea and have a strict military line dividing them despite being the same "race". If anyone is a poster country for monocultures promoting division it's Korea. marshviperXwins makes no sense.

[Tom15452]

@marshviperXwins <--- Haha a stupid European/Russian talking about racism in Korea. What about racism in Europe? Who created Nazism??? Where is the biggest population of Neo nazis in this planet? Russia. Hypocrite.

[marshviperXwins]

@Tom15452 You misunderstand me, I'm not using "racist" as a derogatory term. Therefore I can't be a hypocrite. Race realism is a good thing. It's important to be proud of one's heritage. Also, here's S.Korea being proud of its race: watch?v=AfxYnLwi1YE watch?v=-Oct36SRdnw watch?v=OEba68tEuFw watch?v=kMi7Jkay0fY Who's the hypocrite now?

[Phead128]

@CappitranoBellephant

They also mutiliated the head of Japan's national bird , and threw it's dead body in front of Japanese embassy in Seoul to protest some islands.

They also mutiliated and tortured pigs as well.

[Tom15452]

@Phead128 <--- Your war criminal grandpa raped and looted Asia just 65 years ago during WW2. Read about unit 731 human testing lab.. only war criminal Japanese capable of so.

[avecgloire]

They also donated millions to help Japan recover from the earthquake and helped fight the somalian pirates. Do not comment without knowing the context and selectively choose evidence to support your argument. 

*the death of the pigs were unfortunate, but that does not relate to this topic at all and they did it to prevent the spread of the "foot and mouth disease"

[seoul2k11]

@CappitranoBellephant It was another politician though, who used the tear gas. I´m in Seoul right now and it´s quite a show.

[CappitranoBellephant]

@seoul2k11 Oh shit! That's... quite a shocker and unexpected!

[seoul2k11]

@CappitranoBellephant Is is. It was in the parliament and he suddenly stood up, and screamed: If you make the people cry, I will make you cry! And then he threw that thing :D

[bodryn]

One way to see what a LIE "free trade" is: note that while goods and money can cross borders more freely than ever, at the same time, travel barriers between the US and Canada are harder than ever: we now need passports, which was never the case until about 3 years ago.

[bodryn]

As an American myself, seeing the damage "free trade" has done to US workers, I'd say the people need to resist this at all costs. When I see the same kind of riot police at work in this video as are seen in American videos of Occupy Wall Street, I begin to believe this is some kind of worldwide conspiracy to put everybody on earth under the control of transnational corporations who seem to be dragging the world towards ultimate environmental self-destruction.

[toknowandgrow]

@bodryn

boom, your on it. Its not a conspiracy. The bilderberg group is real, they are out in the open. I suggest you check out the earthquake in New Zealend that US officials flew out of just hours before. Or the Earthquake in Chile, look for the interview on CNN. Fukishima..

/watch?v=XCBJ3RBoXrs

[bodryn]

@toknowandgrow You might want to check out a recent interview with novelist John le Carre. The video where he brings up the massive money laundering going on in the world's major banks, IMHO he cuts right through the BS to the basic story of our time. So I guess people are expected to follow austerity measures while the major banks are being run by organized criminal enterprises.

[navtel]

america won't be happy until it destroys or destablilizes all countries.. .. lynch the parliament of S.korea. anyone believing there is democracy are delusional.

[tehatemachine]

@navtel the united states constitution does not specify a democracy. the whole "democratic government" is bullshit and never works without having wolves and sheep vote what's for dinner.

[SpicyHam]

Free trade means South Korea vegetable oil industry is gonna be devestated by American vegetable oil industry, particularly corn oil.

[bodryn]

@SpicyHam And you won't want those genetically modified products either. "Free trade" is being shoved down American throats, too, by the powerful at the top. It seems American congressmen have become puppets of the transnational corporations, because of corporate lobbyists having overwhelming influence over our government.

[prayfortruejustice]

The US knows how to export it's inflation and debt... Why debase your currency when you can payoff and threaten allies to remove and taxes and tariffs from your products... I wonder if China will smell this crap, and demand most favored trade agreement status since they are the r largest holder of U.S. Treasury debt (after the independent Federal Reserve Bank). Send in the economic hit men and anything can be accomplished.