sam never lost a debate that i know of. i have yet seen a video were he lost a debate, until then sam is the best of the best :D this crap is clearly edited show us the whole unedited version!!!! we demand it!! :D
IF God had intended to take the form of a man, he would most certainly have made it clear in the Bible and not left it vague IN ANY WAY. Since the salvation of mankind is dependant on this, it is obviously a man made distortion and / or misunderstanding which occured somewhere in history.
Why the intro that seeks to get people on your side, why not just show the debate unbiasedly and let the people come to their own decisions. We are all intelligent enough to get our own opinions....thanks :-)
you are a liar..i've seen a lot sam debates..........he NEVER loses his cool and started to curse......and he ALWAYS answer the questions directly .....he never makes his talk in circular...if he doesnt know he will tell u he doesnt know....unlike muslims scholars.......and i can hear u edited some of the audio here....dont you have any shame salam?you have make islam a very stupid religion..and the debate is fair...there's no one who had lost...
did you watch the whole debate brain dead idiot?are you blind or you can not read? this debate has 16 parts , your stunk idol uses foul languages and started throwing isnutls when he lost the debate in last part:
watch?v=hqhWoR8X3-E&feature=related
he used to insult non christians ,Perhaps he is using his false God (Biblical Jesus) as a role model and thinks that its okay to insult non Christians since the Biblical Jesus did the same thing (see Matthew 23:33 & Luke 11:40)
Here is another video and u can check the description section of it to read and listen to his trash mouth:
watch?v=-hPcLMyU76s
another video where he insults sheik Shabir Ally since the Shiek crashed him so badly in a previous debate and Sam cries and keep begging the sheik to have another one , when he refused because of Sam trash mouth , Sam starts again throwing insults :
we can make it out for ourselves wheter or not sam lost .. you dont have try so hard to make it sound obvious .. which in reality suggests that the muslim debater lost
I am really surprised that christians think sam shamoun is a good debator, didn't realise they have such low standards. Everytime shamoun starts loosing a dabate, he get emotional, and starts mocking and shouting as he did pretty much in this whole debate lol.
Shamoun is a hypocite, he likes to dish it out but when somone gives it to him, he can't take it. He's just an ameature and a joke lol
Muhammad is the only person who was Tormented by the Spirit who visited him in Surah 96 and according to Islamic Hadiths. Moreoever, in surah 22:52 he says all prophets were inspired by Satan at one point when they succumbed to their temptations aroused by Satan. But there is NO record of the legitament prophets of the bible or Qur'an that suggests any other Figure (besides Muhammad) was inspired by satan to speak a lie or false revelation.
You accuse Sam shamoun of using bad language and cuts and edits as you please..?:-)
And then you go on insaulting those who disagrees with you: "stupid filthy commnets, filthy face"???
LOOK at what lesterdiamond wrote to you, did he use bad langauge??
If you can't tolerate other people's points of view, you should close your account, threathening people with blocking them for speaking their minds is incredibly immature!
I block rude stupid people who repeat the lies which have already been refuted in our videos .i sweep the floor out with low people who insulting my God and my prophet before blocking them , sometimes I block them without lowering my level to their level
Sam Shamoun is a filthy low person he uses foul languages and , he talks a lot about women s vagina and her breast !! why you defend him because of that?!!
Now, i wont close my account , this is what you wish !! ( Christian-monkey )or investigateislam has more than 100 accounts on YT, just to attack Islam!!
so as long as there are haters like him and like sam shamoun , we will keep exposing their lies and toast christianity on both sides.
we are a team on YT, THERE ARE OTHER ACCOUNTS TO EXPOSE THEIR LIES.
I did not cut or edit anything, i posted the whole debate on YT, you can listen to his foul languages in last part of this video. besides , i gave you a link where he insult a teenager mother and talked about her vagina etc !! he is a perverted person .
I do not have time to waste answering lies have already been answered , there are haters do not want to learn , they just want to insult other .
if you want to buy food would you buy it form an animal store?! learn about islam from its sources .
It seems that you do not differ from these idiots whom repeating the same lies which have already been refuted in our videos and you proved that to us by posting this stupid comment.
There is no turture and looting in the hadiths, the prophet forbids us from killing women , kids in war while the terrorist Jesus of the bible ordered his prophets to to stab and open the pregnant women's wombs (stomachs), he is a ruthless terrorist.
You believe Jesus is God so all the bloody disgusting commands in the OT are from him and with his approval besides he ordered his followers to slay his enemies who do not believe in him.
You haven't read the Quran, you might have read some of the misquoting verses of it in anti islamic web site.
The Quran says clearly("Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits. God does not love transgressors."
As i said in my previous comments , i block ignorant people whom repeating the lies which have already been refuted in my videos because they are not looking to educate themselves they just want to waste our times.
Joh 14:10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? What I'm telling you doesn't come from me. The Father, who lives in me, does what he wants.
Joh 14:11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and that the Father is in me. Otherwise, believe me because of the things I do.
Joh 11:43 After Jesus had said this, he shouted as loudly as he could, "Lazarus, come out!"
Joh 11:44 The dead man came out. Strips of cloth were wound around his feet and hands, and his face was wrapped with a handkerchief. Jesus told them, "Free Lazarus, and let him go."
Joh 10:36 why do you say that I'm dishonoring God because I said, 'I'm the Son of God'? God set me apart for this holy purpose and has sent me into the world.
Joh 10:37 If I'm not doing the things my Father does, don't believe me.
Joh 10:38 But if I'm doing those things and you refuse to believe me, then at least believe the things that I'm doing. Then you will know and recognize that the Father is in me and that I am in the Father."
Luk 1:34 Mary asked the angel, "How can this be? I've never had sexual intercourse."
Luk 1:35 The angel answered her, "The Holy Spirit will come to you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore, the holy child developing inside you will be called the Son of God.
@ThePeaceMissile the term of israel is a bogus claim, as u dont know what its is talking about, isreal is not the country, but the descendant of Jacob who became isreal
@eaglefan64 You know what's ironic??? Muslims are READY to dissect the character of the holy, sinless, perfect, wise, doctor, lawyer, teacher, spiritual leader, and king like Jesus. But they NEVER allow anyone to dissect Muhammad nor do Muslims themselves dissect Muhammad's character. It would be blasphemy to compare Muhammad to Yeshua.
What a stupid comment, First of all watch this video, you can find it in my video list, you should check my video list before posting an idiotic comment,
watch?v=IhQM-Q6ca5I
this video proves that Jesus actually sinned when he allowed satan to tempt him according to several verses from the New Testament (NT) itself! also proved from the New Testament that satan tempted Jesus to lust after women!
Other thing, Christians believe that Jesus is God or his son ,
So how do you compare the God of the universe with one of his creatures , this is the stupidity of Paulinians, you know very well that Jesus is not God . Jesus of the Bible was hypocrite, foul mouthed and Liar.In Islam we respect all the prophets we do not distinguish between anyone of them ,Any Muslim dissect Jesus will be a kaffir( which means he wont be a muslim any more) thats the difference between you and us , you Insult Jesus and God himself in your unholy bible
By making God week , shaving his leg, whistling to the flies etc, and you insult the prophets of God almighty the most pious people on earth by falsely attributing fornication ,lying and most disgusting actions to them .
You wouldn't find one single verse in the Quran speaks badly about Jesus ,Abraham, David or any one of these Prophets as the disgusting ones in the corrupted bible .
Yeah, we Muslims never allow anyone to dissect any one of God's prophets as you do .
Where did Jesus claim to have two natures or claim that he is fully God and Fully man and same time !? from where you christians bring your beleive !?
Show me where Allah says he is god without a prophet show me once. This is straw man at its best.God from heaven said to Jesus," this is my beloved Son," direct confirmation but you already negated any qualification eliminating the whole of Christianity found in the gospels.That is the same as saying show me Allah is god but don' use the Koran
Seven distinctively Divine offices is ascribed to Jesus Christ. The seven distinctively Divine offices are: Creation, Preservation, Forgiveness of Sin, the Raising of the Dead, the Transformation of Bodies, Judgment and the Bestowal of Eternal Life, and each of these is ascribed to Jesus Christ.
We are told that He shall "judge the quick and the dead." Jesus Himself declared that He would be the judge of all mankind and emphasized the fact of the Divine character of that office.
Uhh when does muhamed say I am muhamed a prophet of god? Not other words his words. After all the quran states in 15:28 that Jesus IS THE WORD OF GOD. The word of God is eternal & unblemished just like the Jesus. After all when you read John 1:1 it states in the beginning was THE WORD and the WORD WAS WITH GOD and the WORD WAS GOD. How can muslims NOT see this clear statement connection. The quran says Jesus is the word of GOD. Then in the bible it says the WORD WAS GOD!
u see he says i have to LEAVEEEE in order for comforter to come
but we know that during jesus pbh there was holy ghost if u say he is comforter.
but not even that lets see deut
1818:
18 So I will give them a prophet like you, who is one of their own people. I will tell him what to say, and he will tell them everything I command. new century version
this is talking about the prophet mohammad pbh plz dont gamble with ur life forever .
2)The comforter will dwell IN THEM. Can muhamed do this? NO
3) Deuteronomy 18.18 a prophet LIKE YOU FROM AMONG THE BRETHREN. What does this mean? The prophet has to come from the line of the Isrrealites. NOT ISHMAELITE
I am not here to respond on false allegations have been refuted millions of times by muslims on YT and in (answering_christianity) web site and many other sites.
I haven't changed the subject , you did,now you are calming that there is contradiction in the Quran!! ironically indeed , your bible is full of contradiction , starting from the ruminant rabbits, flat earth, snakes eat dust .
listen to you man god and watch the dirt in your eyes instead of searching in other people's eyes.
John 14:26 — But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you."
The Comforter will teach these disciples and remind them of what Christ said to them. As the early Christians grew the Holy Spirit taught them. Muhammad is not the Comforter because he never knew the disciples and he didn't teach these disciples, and Muhammad never reminded the disciples of what Christ said.
The disciples received the Comforter - the Holy Spirit, on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2:3, 4. The Comforter was now in the disciples and He remained in them from then on and taught them — just as Jesus had said He would.
Take the evidence & ask yourself why the quran says for muslims to NOT ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT ISLAM & TO FOLLOW BLINDLY
Muslims are told not to ask questions for fear they would leave Islam.
I am not going to discuss with you an old argument has been refuted by Many scholars such as Ahamad Deedat and brother Osama, if you click on the description section of this video you will find many articles about the comforter, but I will reply on the second part of your comment ,of course most of you try to change the subject in order to deviate from the main topic .
The reason of revelation of sura 5:101 according to Ibn Abbas is:
(O ye who believe!) this was revealed about Harith Ibn Yazid who asked the Prophet (pbuh)-when the verse (And pilgrimage to the House is a duty unto Allah for mankind) was revealed: Is it once every year, O Messenger of Allah? So Allah forbade him from asking such questions, and started by addressing him with (O ye who believe!)
(Ask not) your Prophet (of things) that Allah has relieved you of (which, if they were made known unto you) if they were made obligatory upon you, (would trouble you; but if you ask of them) if you ask of the things that you were relieved of (when the Qur'an is being revealed) when Gabriel brings down the Qur'an,
(they will be made known unto you) they will be made obligatory upon you. (Allah pardoneth this) this questioning, (for Allah is Forgiving) of the one who repents, (Clement) vis-à-vis your ignorance.
Islam encourages and urges its followers to learn, read, write and do research.
The first verses revealed in the Holy Quran say (what means): "Read in the name of the Lord, who created man from congealed blood." This means that the first revealed word was "read".
Realize the quran is man made and filled with lies and contradicitons. Man was made from Clay too. What was it? Clay or Blood. Tell me, what verse is the lie from allah.
How can man repent when allah already made their hearts hardened to doing good?
: "We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape..." (15:26).
According to Paul, God of the Christianity do not accept wisdom !and he praise ignorance !!
1 Corinthians 1 19For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 20Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? read also:
1 Corinthians 3-18-19
There are many other biblical verses consider ignorance is the wisdom of this world !!
The contradiction is only in your limited brain, I dont blame you of being stupid since Paul himself was a stupid and he was a proud of that:2 Corinthians 12
( 11I am become a fool in glorying; ye have compelled me)
I have posted the reason of revelation for verse 5-101, we believe the holy quran is the word of God ,if you know arabic you would know that there is a huge difference between the hadith and Quran in many aspects.
40. Muhammad (SAW) is not the father of any man among you, but he is the Messenger of Allâh and the last (end) of the Prophets. And Allâh is Ever AllAware of everything
> "Muhammad ... is the last (end) of the Prophets."
Jesus warned that false prophets would come and deceive many.
Matt 24:24 For false Messiahs and false prophets will appear; they will perform great miracles and wonders in order to deceive even God's chosen people, if possible.
Jesus also said He was the LAST.
Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."
The biblical scriptures were complete. There was nothing more to add.
Therefore, there was no need for Mohammad to write the Quran and have Muslims continue the pagan moon-god religion or to use it to worship the God of Abraham.
Rev 22:18-19 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, ...
... and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
The Bible is complete. It is not corrupted. Nothing was added or removed. God made sure of this.
Matt 5:17-19 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Deut 12:32 "Do everything that I have commanded you; do not add anything to it or take anything from it.
Jesus made it very clear that the scriptures would never be corrupted.
Matthew 5:18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not one letter or one stroke of a letter will disappear from the Law until everything has been accomplished.
Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY. ...
Revelation 22:18-19 For I testify together to everyone who hears the Words of the prophecy of this Book: IF ANYONE ADDS TO THESE THINGS, GOD WILL ADD ON HIM THE PLAGUES that have been written in this Book.
AND IF ANYONE TAKES AWAY FROM THE WORDS of the Book of this prophecy, GOD WILL TAKE AWAY HIS PART OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, and out of the holy city, and from the things which have been written in this Book. ...
Eccl 3:14 I know that whatever God does, it shall be forever; NOTHING CAN BE ADDED TO IT, NOR ANYTHING TAKEN FROM IT; and God does it so that they fear before Him.
> "jesus never said the scriptures ware corrupted?
so then why would he come with another scripture ?"
What other scripture did Jesus bring?
> "and more over where is the gospel of jesus ?"
Jesus did not write a Gospel.
Jesus warned that false teachers and false prophets would come after Him. They would teach damnable heresies and doctrines, which Jesus and the apostles never taught.
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote their Gospels at different times to the churches in order to dispel the FALSE teachings of false Christians who were contradicting the teachings of Jesus and the apostles.
Most letters to the churches in the New Testament were intended to reassure and confirm the TRUTH to Christians who were taught false Gnostics beliefs and lies.
God's Commandments forbid idolatry. Yet, people use every "holy" relic they find and treat them like idols.
The Holy Grail is supposed to be a sacred cup used by Jesus at the Last Supper and said to possess miraculous powers.
It is not holy, nor should it be regarded as such. Yet, it is treated like an idol.
Believers contend that the Shroud of Turin is the cloth placed on the body of Jesus Christ at the time of his burial, and that the face image is the Holy Face of Jesus.
Jesus' followers understood the commandment against idolatry and would never have preserved anything associated with Jesus as a holy relic or idol that people would be willing to kill over.
I am sure you Muslims understand what idolatry is. You are willing to kill over anything YOU regard as sacred even though God forbids it.
Had Jesus written a Gospel, the scrolls would have been treated like idols and most likely not be allowed to be copied, which would defeat the purpose.
> " then how could u explain the difference between catholic bible and protestant bible ?"
That is easy. The Catholic Church included fraudulent books that were not inspired or recognized as such authoritative by the original apostles. They were written long after their deaths.
That is why it is called "The Catholic Bible" and not "The Holy Bible".
The Catholic Church has replaced most Christian beliefs and doctrines of the Bible with false pagan beliefs, doctrines and holidays. It is the church that the Bible refers to as the Great Harlot in the book of Revelation, which deceives the whole world.
john matthew mark and luke is not one of them? or even paul?"
That is easy. The apostles were taught and trained by Jesus. They continued to teach what Jesus taught them. Jesus continuously quoted from the Old Testament, thus confirming that the scriptures were not corrupted.
Paul faithfully preached the authentic gospel that had been delivered to him by Jesus Christ.
Acts 20:24 But I do not account my life of any value nor as precious to myself, if only I may finish my course and the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God.
Their teachings are consistent with those of Jesus and the Old Testament Scriptures.
the gospel of mark luke mathew is not writen by them and second the first gospel which is writen down by Matthew that is at least 100 years after jesus and paul never meet jesus
> "first of all the gospel of mark luke mathew is not writen by them and second the first gospel which is writen down by Matthew that is at least 100 years after jesus and paul never meet jesus so why are are u lying?"
First of all, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS LYING! You are willing to believe any idiot who makes these unfounded claims. The fact that you failed to provide any proof of YOUR claims, is evidence that YOU KNOW YOU ARE LYING.
Jesus warned the apostles that false prophets and teachers would come after Him.
At the end of the Book of Revelation, Jesus warned people not to add anything to the scriptures of the Bible.
The Catholic Church eventually rejected all of Christ's teachings along with God's commands and prophets. They replaced them with pagan customs and teachings. They also tried to include fraudulent books into the Bible, but God did not allow them.
That is why the Catholic Bible is not called the "Holy Bible".
Even though Islam claims to submit to God, it does not. It rejects all the scriptures that God inspired to be written. It also rejects the commands of God.
The old pagan Moon-god religion had Mecca as its holy city. The symbols of the crescent moon and star are prevalent in Islam. The only thing that changed was that they now worship the God of Abraham. Everything else is still pagan and connected to the moon-god religion.
Actually all the books of the bible were assembled by 200 AD. The bible was already assembled except for certain letters by the early church fathers. These were already bound by muhameds time. The Injeel is the term for the entire bible. If muhamed was refering to using only the 4 books of the gospels he would have said Injeel il muqudasa.
I had the same problem I tried to comment once and it went all the way to the top. I just noticed this one you wrote.
First the books of the bible were compiled over a period from some say 50 AD to the completion of the main books of the bible at 325 AD. The acts as well as other books were letters tthat were compiled by early church leaders.
How can the writers of the bible be correct? The words of the LORD are very clear.
John 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
Here is why the bible can be written by others and still be accurate. This also CANT be muhamed because its very clear in John 14:6 that the comforter will abide IN THEM. Now your turn
at the same time you couldn't deny that the bible ordered you not to ask and to be ignorant !!you have no answer to the biblical verses I have quoted !!
Sami Zatary's argument that Jesus is not God is because Jesus did not say the exact words, "I am God, besides me there is no God".
Are Muslims dictating to God the conditions on which they will accept Jesus?
Is Jesus expected to bow down to Muslim demands on what to say and do?
Muslims claim that any part of the Bible, written in the span of 1,500 years, that disagrees with Mohammad's teachings, is the result of the Bible being corrupted. ...
Mark 10:6-9 But from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female.'
'Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become ONE FLESH.' So they are no longer two but ONE FLESH.
What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate."
Though two separate and distinct beings, in this context, the two become ONE.
Yet in a physical sense that complete ONENESS is reached at the moment of conception. ...
As one science book put it: "Human life begins in . . . cooperation of the most intimate sort. The two cells wholly merge. They combine their genetic material. Two very different beings become ONE. The act of making a human being involves . . . cooperation so perfect that the partners' separate identities vanish"
Paul explains that "there is ONE God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; ...
... and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live" (1 Cor 8:6). Scripture reveals two separate, distinct persons, both spirit, yet one in unity, belief, direction and purpose—members of the same divine family. "I and My Father are ONE," said Jesus (John 10:30). ...
When we understand what the Bible teaches, we see that there is only ONE God, just as there is only ONE human race—ONE extended family descended from Adam of presently about seven billion individuals. Just the same, the ONE divine family—the family of God—is open to an unlimited number of members.
John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
At the beginning of Paul's letters to the churches, he only mentions God the Father and Jesus Christ in his greetings.
He does not mention the Holy Spirit as a person.
1Cor 1:3 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Sam shamoun is a dirty kaffir just like that Keith thompson who posted his debate with brother sami zaatari, this keith guy was so arrogant I actually felt sick listening to him
Well thats odd ,why would a muslim live in New Zealand and not Afghanistan or Pakistan? I as a christian have no desire to live in Arabia- Guess running toilets are a good thing as is walking down the street without fear of some Muslim radical exploding his guts all over the place is a nice relief.
guess wat they say about americans being ignorant isnt just a stereotype, egypt and the few other countries u mention r totally different places, not even the same continent but i guess ur american so its ok. anyway im not into shit slinging so i will let u have the last word and let ppl decide from wat they see. this the last reply.
I agree we are ignorant if we were not we would understand collectively that Islam can never coexistent with the rest of the world and not allow them into our countries with open arms ,they simply do not assimilate into the society they live with-when there numbers in the country they live in reach a high enough level they take over and all hell breaks loose- Its happening now in Europe- I give it 10 more years before cities start burning-this simply does not happen with any other religion.
14They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets." 15"But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?" 16Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,[a] the Son of the living God." 17Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
18And I tell you that you are Peter,[b] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[c] will not overcome it.[d] 19I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[e] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[f] loosed in heaven." 20Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.
Question: would a mere prophet have the keys to the Kingdom of heaven? Question: would a mere prophet build HIS church?
Muslims need to stop debating, people like nadir ahmed, shabir ally and ally atai are seriously damaging islam by taking part of these debates becuase the christians are totaly destroying islam!
Many muslims are questioning islam and some are even leaving islam by watching these debates!
u know wat i like about numbers, they dont lie, no opinions involved or even bias can change their meaning, a 1 is always a 1 etc... if u look at the growth rate of ppl to converting to islam its much greater than any other religion. i mean christianity started 600 years before islam and we r nearly equal with sects of christianity put together.
Actualy, instead of sitting on your arse and watching deedat videos, why dont you actualy try checking these claims out for yourself? Dumbo, islam is the fastest growing religion due to high birth rates and imigration, the fastest rowing religion by conversion is christianity.Government statistics dont lie my friend, but obviously according to you they are done by jews, lol.. and oh yeah the 3rd/4th fastest growing religion is bhuddism and bahai, i guess we will all be bhuddist soon, lol dummy
which govt stats? ur church's stats dont count as govt btw. Wat ur saying is if deedat said it, it must be wrong? whos the dummy? im guessing thats wat the holy spirt does to ppl they get really good at insulting ppl and making baseless accusations.
Despite Islams best efforts to stop the rise of Christianity by murdering excommunicating torture it still grows and grows in Egypt, Iran , Irag, turkey, if Muslims were treated the same way in the western countries Islam would not exist in America, Britain, Germany Australia Canada and so on, imagine how fast Christianity would grow if murdering Muslim apostates was taken out of the countries law.
i got news for u, im egyptian and i have christian friends, u know wat else? none of them get tortured on a sunday for going to their church. do u mean the killing and raping in iraq, afganistan by ur brave soldiers is "the good way"? the millions of native americans or the african slaves? there is no continent on the plant that has christians on it that they werent forced into it from the start.
I searched and searched for a verse that Jesus stated that was parallel to this verse that Mohammad stated(Quran9:123 O you who believe, fight those of the unbelievers near you and let them see how harsh you can be. Know that Allah is with the righteous).-Christian aggression was done in SPITE of the teachings of Christ- Islamic aggression was done in ACCORDANCE of Moahammad's teaching-(slight difference)
u searched and searched and stumbled across an islam bashing forum and copied and pasted this like an idiot without finding out the context. that versed isnt general, its about a battle that was between the muslims and meccans who were prosecuting the muslims for 15years and they r being harsh in battle wats wrong with that? r supposed to meet them with flowers?
1) Why would the Jewish ledership seek to have Jesus killed for blaspheme if he never claimed to be God...one ex :John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."
2) Why else would Jesus say in John 14:6 "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." if it wasnt true?
3)Based on question 2 Would u call Jesus a liar by saying u can get to God thru the teachings of Mohamed?
To be honest friend, I have no prob with either of the verses quoted..Understanding Jesus requires one to understand that there is an order of operation in everthing he says and does..quite often in the bible he appeals/reveals his humanity ex: "My father is greater than I," and other times he reveals his divinity "I and the Father are one'..no contradiction for he was both God and man..He is equal to the father as to the essence of his being. But why must we assume he is equal in position?
if he isnt then they rnt the same, if they rnt the same then u got more than 1. if he is referring and praying to another person, showing no signs of divinity then y attribute to him something he doesnt show.
To tell you the truth If some one says to me I am the ONLY/EXCULISIVE way to the Father, either he is a LIAR, CRAZY or TRUTHFUL, besides Jesus NEVER said he was a Prophet, anywhere.I am following Jesus bro..you can have Mohamed(no disrespect)!
im not saying he is a liar, im just saying it would fit perfectly fine with a prophet, if u follow his path u end up in heaven, its logical to assume so as prophets r supposed to be an example to follow.
i respect the way u ended the conversation tho, to u be ur religion and to me be mine.
the deity of Christ is firmly in the second testament of christ in the bible-read the whole thing buddy dont just cherry pick verses to try to prove the false prophet Mohammad was somehow right-he was not.
Let me try this again. You have an attribute called wisdom. You also have an attribute called spirit. Your attributes of wisdom and spirit are impersonal. But suppose that they were personal: that is, that those attributes are conscious and can do things. If so, then there would be ONE person (you), BUT, there would be THREE centers of consciousness in ONE person.
God's attributes of wisdom and spirit are personal, alive, conscious. That's the Trinity.
Wow. You didn't understand what I said at ALL, did you?
What I'm saying is that God's attribute of Wisdom happens to have a life of its own; the attribute of Wisdom is conscious. Same applies to God's spirit. Our wisdom and spirit are non-living, but God's wisdom and spirit are conscious and alive. So there is ONE God, and two of His attributes happen to have lives of their own. So in total, there are THREE centers of consciousness, but one God.
I can explain the Trinity. There exists a being called God. For as long as God has existed, He has had wisdom. Both GOd and wisdom are the same age. Wisdom is generated from God, in the way that light is generated from a fire. It happens that God's wisdom is conscious, can think, do things, etc. This sounds strange, but God's attribute is alive. Thus, Wisdom is a person. God's attribute of spirit is also alive. Thus, we have ONE God, Who has TWO attributes that are both ALIVE. 3 ppl in one GOd.
ahmed deedat may gad be pleased with him! would had crushed! that sam shamoun caracter! even sami crushed him just with logic that he couldn't bear up! ¬¬
are you kidding me? sam lost ? :) i listened to the debate and it was as clear as possible that sami couldnt keep up with sam: long pauses, answering with questions and all these things that a beginner would do in front of a massive amount of prooves...
Any man who claims to fully understand the nature of God has only a religion of man and not of God. You a mere man knows everything about God, the infinite God of the Universe can fit in your head, I know now your god is not real.
I understand you believe Jesus was only a man, and because your really believe this I understand why you might pray for me. I don't believe you will pray, due to the lack of respect you have show, and I don't think it will help if you did, but thank you anyways.
how could you say "your god is not real"? you are saying that god is not real... your god and our god is the same he will judge at the end... god is one!
This day you have attempted to represent what you believe to be truth, from a Muslim perspective, the torch of Islam in your hand. I put forth the word of God and reason in defense. And you, in this, can only spit back. The product of a religion is a mans heart, you have shown me yours. What you have done today is lifted Jesus higher in my heart, proving that it is him who changes a man, not religion. I will pray one day God gives rest to your anger, I am sorry you have to be the way you are.
Because my natural disposition dose not believe in a man, it believes in a triune monotheistic God who entered his creation to save man kind, a God of limitless power. If you understood Christianity you would know this.
It is you that believe in a man for salvation, that man is your self. By the same mouth that you just used to spit on me you will profess before God that you followed the five pillars, expecting him to save you because you deserve it. Please continue to boast of your perfection
Thomas calls him God as well, you would have know this if you actually looked. But you did not showing you are only interested in arguing. Also, the Bible does not have to conform to your demands, any logical person can look at language and context and see Jesus is called GOD and excepts the worship. Because this does not fit into your demands does not change the truth of what happened on that glorious day after the resurrection of Jesus. Ask what it means to demand evidence rather than search.
First I would like to say I study religions in University, the Greek language is part of that. Never have I heard my teachers say that the English slang term "Oh my GD" was common use in Koine Greek. The Greek Is "o Kyrios mou kai o Theos mou", meaning the master OF ME and the GOD OF ME.
Furthermore you expect me to believe Thomas broke a foundational law of God (EX 20:6) and Jesus blessed him for it? But you wont look into it you have your mind made up already.
Jhn 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, MY LORD and MY GOD.
Jhn 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed.
Jesus clearly allowed himself to be called LORD and GOD, he blesses those who do, you are mistaken.
Swaggart is not a strong and smart debater,that he failed doesn't mean anything.I didn't see any "myth" exposed.The myths of the Quran are exposed-the Trinity of Father,Son and Mary;a "God" who offers salvation for money and many others.
Read John 13-13 and then say that Jesus have never proclaimed Himself to be a God.If you are not agree even then, continue to believe in the All-knowing Allah,who thinks that the Trinity is Father,Son and Mary.I'm agree that Shamoun didn't manage to protect the Christian viewpoint very accurately
Unfortunately for all of you, Jesus and Mohamed are just people... God is not anything of human. It is all Astrological and not of the earthly realm. Religion is a fabricated idea to control, Like Slavery! Religion is for idiots, Intelligence kills religion.
On the contrary your opponent is weak because he is defending a flaw and illogical doctrine full of contradictions and discrepancies, a doctrine that Jesus PBUH and his disciples didn't preach nor call for, rather it was invented and concocted about 3 centuries after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus PBUH
good job brother sami, by Allah's will you'll always win because you are on the right path and you are defending a logical and reasonable doctrine that is the belief in the oness of Allah and that Jesus PBUH is a great Messenger of God, not a son of God, or God incarnated,etc.
I don't know how the universe is created and what the whole universe has.
But fortunately I know what the quran says about the paradise(jannah) and the quran says what is the way to Jannah. Those who does not know how jannah is, please google it.
Even in this life I don't want to get those happiness as said in the jannah. Why do you want me to live as the quran says for eternal life.
Hence I would like to live as Jesus said love your enemy and neighbor, as Jesus said.
Apparently 6 months ago, you asked me to explain the verse John 5:37. Personally, I'm not sure what needs explaining. In the context, Jesus is talking to the Pharisees, who boasted of how morally good they were, and how they had a relationship with God, but actually were hypocrites. Jesus was pointing out that they did not actually know God, because they failed to recognize Jesus. I Colossians 1:15 says Jesus is the image of God. Hence, if you really know GOd, then you'll know Jesus.
excuse me? "brother Sami kept his cool?" What about all the insults Zaatari threw at Shamoun? I'm not justifying Sam Shamoun's insults, but it would be hypocritical to say that Zaatari was innocent. Also, Zaatari didn't win. Jesus may never have said the exact phrase "I am God", but that doesn't mean He isn't. There are plenty of other places that show Jesus is God. Zaatari's challenge is basically, "Betcha can't jump over that house...I knew you couldn't!"
Christians are evil they always find ways to evil by saying Jesus took their sin away. They try to say no person is perfect therefore they can sin. They are possessed with the evil spirit they call the holy spirit and it was exposed here how hey cussed.
Why did you have to have an introduction? Is it so that you can dictate and influence people?
drey27 1 week ago
sam shamoun IS NOT REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT CHRISTIANITY.... he knows that this religion is out of the right path!
the thing is that HE IS DOING HIS BEST IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THE FUNDS FOR HIS POCKET!
:-)
ASUSM2VMXSE 3 months ago in playlist Is Jesus God ?Sami Zatary Vs sam shamoun
sam never lost a debate that i know of. i have yet seen a video were he lost a debate, until then sam is the best of the best :D this crap is clearly edited show us the whole unedited version!!!! we demand it!! :D
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youneekk 4 months ago
IF God had intended to take the form of a man, he would most certainly have made it clear in the Bible and not left it vague IN ANY WAY. Since the salvation of mankind is dependant on this, it is obviously a man made distortion and / or misunderstanding which occured somewhere in history.
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Islam is not the true path that leads to heaven.I was deceived for many years until Jesus opened my eyes to see the truth!
islamfalse 10 months ago
"Jesus IS God (Jehovah)!" is one of the most foolish, false, deceptive, and demonic doctrines taught among many Christian religions.
Frank4YAHWEH 10 months ago 2
i love this debate so much..sam shamoun got humiliated
pamuk7 11 months ago
Why the intro that seeks to get people on your side, why not just show the debate unbiasedly and let the people come to their own decisions. We are all intelligent enough to get our own opinions....thanks :-)
godswordsheal 1 year ago
Sam got humiliated? really Osama? kind of like how you got humiliated and wrecked at the hands of David Wood debating the crucifixion?
ors712 1 year ago
you are a liar..i've seen a lot sam debates..........he NEVER loses his cool and started to curse......and he ALWAYS answer the questions directly .....he never makes his talk in circular...if he doesnt know he will tell u he doesnt know....unlike muslims scholars.......and i can hear u edited some of the audio here....dont you have any shame salam?you have make islam a very stupid religion..and the debate is fair...there's no one who had lost...
butukau 1 year ago
@butukau
did you watch the whole debate brain dead idiot?are you blind or you can not read? this debate has 16 parts , your stunk idol uses foul languages and started throwing isnutls when he lost the debate in last part:
watch?v=hqhWoR8X3-E&feature=related
he used to insult non christians ,Perhaps he is using his false God (Biblical Jesus) as a role model and thinks that its okay to insult non Christians since the Biblical Jesus did the same thing (see Matthew 23:33 & Luke 11:40)
salam752 1 year ago 2
Here is another video and u can check the description section of it to read and listen to his trash mouth:
watch?v=-hPcLMyU76s
another video where he insults sheik Shabir Ally since the Shiek crashed him so badly in a previous debate and Sam cries and keep begging the sheik to have another one , when he refused because of Sam trash mouth , Sam starts again throwing insults :
watch?v=fMNmo4BTaew&feature=sub
only brain dead low persons believe this zionist.
He makes christianity looks bad
salam752 1 year ago
we can make it out for ourselves wheter or not sam lost .. you dont have try so hard to make it sound obvious .. which in reality suggests that the muslim debater lost
lcemanl 1 year ago
SAM SHAME!!!
MrPiscario 1 year ago
@MrPiscario that's more like it
TheSolidTube 1 year ago
Brother Sam zataari really shattered sam shamouns Christian apologetic work with this debate failure. I heard Christians even admit this. POOR JOB
pamuk7 1 year ago
A scholar who is submited to the judgement
Of ignorants is the most unfortunate Man.
(arabic saying)
Sami thank you for showing such tolerance toward this ignorant "preacher"!
May peace be upon you.
yasbeuck 1 year ago
I am really surprised that christians think sam shamoun is a good debator, didn't realise they have such low standards. Everytime shamoun starts loosing a dabate, he get emotional, and starts mocking and shouting as he did pretty much in this whole debate lol.
Shamoun is a hypocite, he likes to dish it out but when somone gives it to him, he can't take it. He's just an ameature and a joke lol
cinista2002 1 year ago
THIS IS MY FAV DEBATE!! ALLAHU AKABR I TELL EVERYONE ABOUT THIS DEBATE HOW SAMI ZATARWI HUMILIATED SAM SHAMOUN..lol
MAY ALLAH BLESS ZATARAWI!!!
pamuk7 1 year ago
Muhammad is the only person who was Tormented by the Spirit who visited him in Surah 96 and according to Islamic Hadiths. Moreoever, in surah 22:52 he says all prophets were inspired by Satan at one point when they succumbed to their temptations aroused by Satan. But there is NO record of the legitament prophets of the bible or Qur'an that suggests any other Figure (besides Muhammad) was inspired by satan to speak a lie or false revelation.
lesterdiamond5 1 year ago
@lesterdiamond5
This lie has been refuted in many videos so instead of repeating like an idiot parrot a very old lie, improve your IQ and check my videos :
watch?v=0lApOcX9dg0
and this video:
watch?v=4QAT4HLlI0A
Next time, stick to the topic of this video, when you post a stupid filthy comment as your filthy face you will be blocked immediately .
salam752 1 year ago
@salam752
You accuse Sam shamoun of using bad language and cuts and edits as you please..?:-)
And then you go on insaulting those who disagrees with you: "stupid filthy commnets, filthy face"???
LOOK at what lesterdiamond wrote to you, did he use bad langauge??
If you can't tolerate other people's points of view, you should close your account, threathening people with blocking them for speaking their minds is incredibly immature!
senja71 1 year ago
@senja71
I block rude stupid people who repeat the lies which have already been refuted in our videos .i sweep the floor out with low people who insulting my God and my prophet before blocking them , sometimes I block them without lowering my level to their level
Sam Shamoun is a filthy low person he uses foul languages and , he talks a lot about women s vagina and her breast !! why you defend him because of that?!!
watch?v=QEzdCSCZjLY
salam752 1 year ago
@senja71
Now, i wont close my account , this is what you wish !! ( Christian-monkey )or investigateislam has more than 100 accounts on YT, just to attack Islam!!
so as long as there are haters like him and like sam shamoun , we will keep exposing their lies and toast christianity on both sides.
we are a team on YT, THERE ARE OTHER ACCOUNTS TO EXPOSE THEIR LIES.
check my main page .
salam752 1 year ago
I did not cut or edit anything, i posted the whole debate on YT, you can listen to his foul languages in last part of this video. besides , i gave you a link where he insult a teenager mother and talked about her vagina etc !! he is a perverted person .
I do not have time to waste answering lies have already been answered , there are haters do not want to learn , they just want to insult other .
if you want to buy food would you buy it form an animal store?! learn about islam from its sources .
salam752 1 year ago
@salam752
Yes, that is what I have done.
I have the Quran, and I've read a lot in the Hadith's of the socalled "authentic six",-tafsir's and so on.
To me it is a mystery how anyone can chose to follow Muhammad when reading about the torture and looting described in the Hadith's.
senja71 1 year ago
@senja71
It seems that you do not differ from these idiots whom repeating the same lies which have already been refuted in our videos and you proved that to us by posting this stupid comment.
There is no turture and looting in the hadiths, the prophet forbids us from killing women , kids in war while the terrorist Jesus of the bible ordered his prophets to to stab and open the pregnant women's wombs (stomachs), he is a ruthless terrorist.
You can check my video:
watch?v=qvFQrC_dS0M
salam752 1 year ago
@senja71
And this video as well:
watch?v=hGqZHDzFR4g
You believe Jesus is God so all the bloody disgusting commands in the OT are from him and with his approval besides he ordered his followers to slay his enemies who do not believe in him.
You haven't read the Quran, you might have read some of the misquoting verses of it in anti islamic web site.
The Quran says clearly("Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits. God does not love transgressors."
salam752 1 year ago
@senja71
As i said in my previous comments , i block ignorant people whom repeating the lies which have already been refuted in my videos because they are not looking to educate themselves they just want to waste our times.
peace.
salam752 1 year ago
Joh 14:10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? What I'm telling you doesn't come from me. The Father, who lives in me, does what he wants.
Joh 14:11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and that the Father is in me. Otherwise, believe me because of the things I do.
slazres1 1 year ago
Joh 11:43 After Jesus had said this, he shouted as loudly as he could, "Lazarus, come out!"
Joh 11:44 The dead man came out. Strips of cloth were wound around his feet and hands, and his face was wrapped with a handkerchief. Jesus told them, "Free Lazarus, and let him go."
slazres1 1 year ago
Joh 10:36 why do you say that I'm dishonoring God because I said, 'I'm the Son of God'? God set me apart for this holy purpose and has sent me into the world.
Joh 10:37 If I'm not doing the things my Father does, don't believe me.
Joh 10:38 But if I'm doing those things and you refuse to believe me, then at least believe the things that I'm doing. Then you will know and recognize that the Father is in me and that I am in the Father."
slazres1 1 year ago
Luk 1:34 Mary asked the angel, "How can this be? I've never had sexual intercourse."
Luk 1:35 The angel answered her, "The Holy Spirit will come to you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore, the holy child developing inside you will be called the Son of God.
slazres1 1 year ago
@ThePeaceMissile the term of israel is a bogus claim, as u dont know what its is talking about, isreal is not the country, but the descendant of Jacob who became isreal
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@ThePeaceMissile where is the rest of the passage if ur gonna qoute a verse make it the whole thing
not every one who call out to me , lord lord will enter the kingdom of heaven only those who do the will of my father will enter
but its starts at 15 about the wolve in a sheeps skin, and good and bad fruits
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
23focus24 (April 20, 2010)
1-Where in the bible did Jesus claim to be god? In John 13:13
2-Where in the bible did Jesus ask to be worshipped? In John 5:23
3-Where did Jesus say I am God Manifested in flesh? John 6:41-42
4-Where did Jesus mention the original sin? In John 8:44
5-Where did Jesus say I am God the Son? In John 10:36-38
6-Where did Jesus say that I am God the Word? In John 8:24
7-Where did Jesus say I am the Second God in Trinity? In Matt. 28:19.
eaglefan64 1 year ago
@eaglefan64 You know what's ironic??? Muslims are READY to dissect the character of the holy, sinless, perfect, wise, doctor, lawyer, teacher, spiritual leader, and king like Jesus. But they NEVER allow anyone to dissect Muhammad nor do Muslims themselves dissect Muhammad's character. It would be blasphemy to compare Muhammad to Yeshua.
lesterdiamond5 1 year ago
@lesterdiamond5
What a stupid comment, First of all watch this video, you can find it in my video list, you should check my video list before posting an idiotic comment,
watch?v=IhQM-Q6ca5I
this video proves that Jesus actually sinned when he allowed satan to tempt him according to several verses from the New Testament (NT) itself! also proved from the New Testament that satan tempted Jesus to lust after women!
Other thing, Christians believe that Jesus is God or his son ,
cont
salam752 1 year ago
@lesterdiamond5
So how do you compare the God of the universe with one of his creatures , this is the stupidity of Paulinians, you know very well that Jesus is not God . Jesus of the Bible was hypocrite, foul mouthed and Liar.In Islam we respect all the prophets we do not distinguish between anyone of them ,Any Muslim dissect Jesus will be a kaffir( which means he wont be a muslim any more) thats the difference between you and us , you Insult Jesus and God himself in your unholy bible
cont
salam752 1 year ago
@lesterdiamond5
By making God week , shaving his leg, whistling to the flies etc, and you insult the prophets of God almighty the most pious people on earth by falsely attributing fornication ,lying and most disgusting actions to them .
You wouldn't find one single verse in the Quran speaks badly about Jesus ,Abraham, David or any one of these Prophets as the disgusting ones in the corrupted bible .
Yeah, we Muslims never allow anyone to dissect any one of God's prophets as you do .
salam752 1 year ago
1-Where in the bible did Jesus claim to be god?
2-Where in the bible did Jesus ask to be worshipped?
3-Where did Jesus say I am God Manifested in flesh?
4-Where did Jesus mention the original sin?
5-Where did Jesus say I am God the Son?
6-Where did Jesus say that I am God the Word?
7-Where did Jesus say I am the Second God in Trinity?
23focus24 1 year ago
Where did Jesus claim to have two natures or claim that he is fully God and Fully man and same time !? from where you christians bring your beleive !?
23focus24 1 year ago
Show me where Allah says he is god without a prophet show me once. This is straw man at its best.God from heaven said to Jesus," this is my beloved Son," direct confirmation but you already negated any qualification eliminating the whole of Christianity found in the gospels.That is the same as saying show me Allah is god but don' use the Koran
polopowers1 1 year ago
Islam is crap
hawklanzs 1 year ago
@hawklanzs the scream is as much as the pain so I can understand your feelings
23focus24 1 year ago
@ThePeaceMissile Thats not in the bible you liar!
Selerzz 1 year ago
Seven distinctively Divine offices is ascribed to Jesus Christ. The seven distinctively Divine offices are: Creation, Preservation, Forgiveness of Sin, the Raising of the Dead, the Transformation of Bodies, Judgment and the Bestowal of Eternal Life, and each of these is ascribed to Jesus Christ.
We are told that He shall "judge the quick and the dead." Jesus Himself declared that He would be the judge of all mankind and emphasized the fact of the Divine character of that office.
Hrvojecroatian 1 year ago
Uhh when does muhamed say I am muhamed a prophet of god? Not other words his words. After all the quran states in 15:28 that Jesus IS THE WORD OF GOD. The word of God is eternal & unblemished just like the Jesus. After all when you read John 1:1 it states in the beginning was THE WORD and the WORD WAS WITH GOD and the WORD WAS GOD. How can muslims NOT see this clear statement connection. The quran says Jesus is the word of GOD. Then in the bible it says the WORD WAS GOD!
mumswording 1 year ago
lolz u asked and when i provided u with the answer lolz now u are quoting the bible
by the way is it catholic bible or other bible ?
that u are quoting.
AYEMAQ 1 year ago
u see he says i have to LEAVEEEE in order for comforter to come
but we know that during jesus pbh there was holy ghost if u say he is comforter.
but not even that lets see deut
1818:
18 So I will give them a prophet like you, who is one of their own people. I will tell him what to say, and he will tell them everything I command. new century version
this is talking about the prophet mohammad pbh plz dont gamble with ur life forever .
AYEMAQ 1 year ago
You have no proof that this is muhamed.
.The evidence points AWAY from him.
1) Muhamed came over 600 years AFTER CHRIST.
2)The comforter will dwell IN THEM. Can muhamed do this? NO
3) Deuteronomy 18.18 a prophet LIKE YOU FROM AMONG THE BRETHREN. What does this mean? The prophet has to come from the line of the Isrrealites. NOT ISHMAELITE
mumswording 1 year ago
I am not here to respond on false allegations have been refuted millions of times by muslims on YT and in (answering_christianity) web site and many other sites.
I haven't changed the subject , you did,now you are calming that there is contradiction in the Quran!! ironically indeed , your bible is full of contradiction , starting from the ruminant rabbits, flat earth, snakes eat dust .
listen to you man god and watch the dirt in your eyes instead of searching in other people's eyes.
IslamResponses 1 year ago
John 14:17 — But you know him for he lives WITH you and will be IN you.
The Comforter lives with the disciples already now and will later be 'in' them. Muhammad CANT be the Comforter because he is not the HOLY SPIRIT.
How do we know that the comforter is SPRIT? Just in cast you still need proof of the comforter being spirit
John 14:26 — The Comforter is specifically described as the Holy Spirit.
mumswording 1 year ago
John 14:26 — But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you."
The Comforter will teach these disciples and remind them of what Christ said to them. As the early Christians grew the Holy Spirit taught them. Muhammad is not the Comforter because he never knew the disciples and he didn't teach these disciples, and Muhammad never reminded the disciples of what Christ said.
mumswording 1 year ago
So when did Jesus actually send the comforter?
The disciples received the Comforter - the Holy Spirit, on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2:3, 4. The Comforter was now in the disciples and He remained in them from then on and taught them — just as Jesus had said He would.
Take the evidence & ask yourself why the quran says for muslims to NOT ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT ISLAM & TO FOLLOW BLINDLY
Muslims are told not to ask questions for fear they would leave Islam.
Sura 5:101,102
mumswording 1 year ago
mumswording ,
I am not going to discuss with you an old argument has been refuted by Many scholars such as Ahamad Deedat and brother Osama, if you click on the description section of this video you will find many articles about the comforter, but I will reply on the second part of your comment ,of course most of you try to change the subject in order to deviate from the main topic .
Well, Muslims are not told to ask questions
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
You wont becuase you have no answer. Go ahead and change the subject. Answer the question. Can You? Counter the points...
mumswording 1 year ago
The reason of revelation of sura 5:101 according to Ibn Abbas is:
(O ye who believe!) this was revealed about Harith Ibn Yazid who asked the Prophet (pbuh)-when the verse (And pilgrimage to the House is a duty unto Allah for mankind) was revealed: Is it once every year, O Messenger of Allah? So Allah forbade him from asking such questions, and started by addressing him with (O ye who believe!)
cont1
IslamResponses 1 year ago
(Ask not) your Prophet (of things) that Allah has relieved you of (which, if they were made known unto you) if they were made obligatory upon you, (would trouble you; but if you ask of them) if you ask of the things that you were relieved of (when the Qur'an is being revealed) when Gabriel brings down the Qur'an,
cont2
IslamResponses 1 year ago
(they will be made known unto you) they will be made obligatory upon you. (Allah pardoneth this) this questioning, (for Allah is Forgiving) of the one who repents, (Clement) vis-à-vis your ignorance.
Islam encourages and urges its followers to learn, read, write and do research.
The first verses revealed in the Holy Quran say (what means): "Read in the name of the Lord, who created man from congealed blood." This means that the first revealed word was "read".
cont3
IslamResponses 1 year ago
Realize the quran is man made and filled with lies and contradicitons. Man was made from Clay too. What was it? Clay or Blood. Tell me, what verse is the lie from allah.
How can man repent when allah already made their hearts hardened to doing good?
: "We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape..." (15:26).
mumswording 1 year ago
This reflects the importance of reading and learning according to Islam.
The Holy Quran repeatedly orders Muslims to contemplate the universe, creatures, animals, seas, stars, the human body and plant
Prophet Muhammad orders us to learn as well and his companions were asking him and learning their religion from him.
on the other hand , your apostle Paul orders you to stay ignorant and do not ask nor learn.
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
u better hope thats not true. IF it is you found ANOTHER contraditction in the book of man made writrings.
Muhamed made it clear to not ask
Sura 5:101,102
mumswording 1 year ago
According to Paul, God of the Christianity do not accept wisdom !and he praise ignorance !!
1 Corinthians 1 19For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 20Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? read also:
1 Corinthians 3-18-19
There are many other biblical verses consider ignorance is the wisdom of this world !!
IslamResponses 1 year ago
Is this your defence?!!
The contradiction is only in your limited brain, I dont blame you of being stupid since Paul himself was a stupid and he was a proud of that:2 Corinthians 12
( 11I am become a fool in glorying; ye have compelled me)
I have posted the reason of revelation for verse 5-101, we believe the holy quran is the word of God ,if you know arabic you would know that there is a huge difference between the hadith and Quran in many aspects.
IslamResponses 1 year ago
8:00
Can any muslim show me where muhammed states I am muhamed a prophet of God?
.
mumswording 1 year ago
its not the mohammad who states its God who says that
33:40 quran
40. Muhammad (SAW) is not the father of any man among you, but he is the Messenger of Allâh and the last (end) of the Prophets. And Allâh is Ever AllAware of everything
AYEMAQ 1 year ago
@AYEMAQ
> "Muhammad ... is the last (end) of the Prophets."
Jesus warned that false prophets would come and deceive many.
Matt 24:24 For false Messiahs and false prophets will appear; they will perform great miracles and wonders in order to deceive even God's chosen people, if possible.
Jesus also said He was the LAST.
Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
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The biblical scriptures were complete. There was nothing more to add.
Therefore, there was no need for Mohammad to write the Quran and have Muslims continue the pagan moon-god religion or to use it to worship the God of Abraham.
Rev 22:18-19 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, ...
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
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... and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
The Bible is complete. It is not corrupted. Nothing was added or removed. God made sure of this.
Matt 5:17-19 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
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For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
In his opening statement, Sami Zatary made it clear he does not accept scriptures that do not agree with Mohammad's teachings.
So what is the point of debating if Muslims reject the words of God in the Bible?
Nevertheless, Jesus constantly quoted from the Old Testament scriptures to prove who He was.
He also kept telling the religious leaders that THEY did not understand the scriptures.
Jesus NEVER said the scriptures were corrupted. ...
MidnightHustler75 2 years ago
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Deut 12:32 "Do everything that I have commanded you; do not add anything to it or take anything from it.
Jesus made it very clear that the scriptures would never be corrupted.
Matthew 5:18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not one letter or one stroke of a letter will disappear from the Law until everything has been accomplished.
Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY. ...
MidnightHustler75 2 years ago
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Revelation 22:18-19 For I testify together to everyone who hears the Words of the prophecy of this Book: IF ANYONE ADDS TO THESE THINGS, GOD WILL ADD ON HIM THE PLAGUES that have been written in this Book.
AND IF ANYONE TAKES AWAY FROM THE WORDS of the Book of this prophecy, GOD WILL TAKE AWAY HIS PART OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, and out of the holy city, and from the things which have been written in this Book. ...
MidnightHustler75 2 years ago
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God controls the contents of the Bible.
Nobody can add or remove any part of it.
Eccl 3:14 I know that whatever God does, it shall be forever; NOTHING CAN BE ADDED TO IT, NOR ANYTHING TAKEN FROM IT; and God does it so that they fear before Him.
MidnightHustler75 2 years ago
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Jews reject the New Testament.
Many Christian religions reject the Old Testament.
Muslims reject the whole Bible and its teachings in order to replace it with the Quran.
Atheists reject all religious books.
Regardless of them all, God safeguarded His entire Word - the Bible.
Those who accept the entire Bible will be accepted in God's Kingdom.
Those who reject any part of it, and do not repent, will be rejected by God.
MidnightHustler75 2 years ago
jesus never said the scriptures ware corrupted?
so then why would he come with another scripture ?
and more over where is the gospel of jesus ?
u claim deut12:32
that bible wont be corrupted then how could u explain the difference between catholic bible and protestant bible ?
so this means jesus lied ?
or jesus didnt know?
AYEMAQ 1 year ago
@AYEMAQ
> "jesus never said the scriptures ware corrupted?
so then why would he come with another scripture ?"
What other scripture did Jesus bring?
> "and more over where is the gospel of jesus ?"
Jesus did not write a Gospel.
Jesus warned that false teachers and false prophets would come after Him. They would teach damnable heresies and doctrines, which Jesus and the apostles never taught.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
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Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote their Gospels at different times to the churches in order to dispel the FALSE teachings of false Christians who were contradicting the teachings of Jesus and the apostles.
Most letters to the churches in the New Testament were intended to reassure and confirm the TRUTH to Christians who were taught false Gnostics beliefs and lies.
God's Commandments forbid idolatry. Yet, people use every "holy" relic they find and treat them like idols.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
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The Holy Grail is supposed to be a sacred cup used by Jesus at the Last Supper and said to possess miraculous powers.
It is not holy, nor should it be regarded as such. Yet, it is treated like an idol.
Believers contend that the Shroud of Turin is the cloth placed on the body of Jesus Christ at the time of his burial, and that the face image is the Holy Face of Jesus.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
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Jesus' followers understood the commandment against idolatry and would never have preserved anything associated with Jesus as a holy relic or idol that people would be willing to kill over.
I am sure you Muslims understand what idolatry is. You are willing to kill over anything YOU regard as sacred even though God forbids it.
Had Jesus written a Gospel, the scrolls would have been treated like idols and most likely not be allowed to be copied, which would defeat the purpose.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
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> "u claim deut12:32 that bible wont be corrupted"
Actually, I claim Deut 4:2; Deut 12:32; Proverbs 30:6; Matt 5:18; Matt 24:34-35; Mark13:31; Luke 16:17; Luke 21:32-33; John 10:35; Rev 22:18.
> " then how could u explain the difference between catholic bible and protestant bible ?"
That is easy. The Catholic Church included fraudulent books that were not inspired or recognized as such authoritative by the original apostles. They were written long after their deaths.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
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That is why it is called "The Catholic Bible" and not "The Holy Bible".
The Catholic Church has replaced most Christian beliefs and doctrines of the Bible with false pagan beliefs, doctrines and holidays. It is the church that the Bible refers to as the Great Harlot in the book of Revelation, which deceives the whole world.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
> "so this means jesus lied or jesus didnt know?"
No, that only confirms what Jesus said. False teachers and false prophets did come to deceive, but His words are still preserved.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
so how do u know that
john matthew mark and luke is not one of them?
or even paul?
AYEMAQ 1 year ago
@AYEMAQ
> "so how do u know that
john matthew mark and luke is not one of them? or even paul?"
That is easy. The apostles were taught and trained by Jesus. They continued to teach what Jesus taught them. Jesus continuously quoted from the Old Testament, thus confirming that the scriptures were not corrupted.
Paul faithfully preached the authentic gospel that had been delivered to him by Jesus Christ.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
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Rom 1:1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God.
Gal 1:11 For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man's gospel.
For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
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Acts 20:24 But I do not account my life of any value nor as precious to myself, if only I may finish my course and the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God.
Their teachings are consistent with those of Jesus and the Old Testament Scriptures.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
first of all
the gospel of mark luke mathew is not writen by them and second the first gospel which is writen down by Matthew that is at least 100 years after jesus and paul never meet jesus
so why are are u lying?
and where is my comments?
its gone i mean it disappeared
AYEMAQ 1 year ago
@AYEMAQ
> "first of all the gospel of mark luke mathew is not writen by them and second the first gospel which is writen down by Matthew that is at least 100 years after jesus and paul never meet jesus so why are are u lying?"
First of all, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS LYING! You are willing to believe any idiot who makes these unfounded claims. The fact that you failed to provide any proof of YOUR claims, is evidence that YOU KNOW YOU ARE LYING.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
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Jesus warned the apostles that false prophets and teachers would come after Him.
At the end of the Book of Revelation, Jesus warned people not to add anything to the scriptures of the Bible.
The Catholic Church eventually rejected all of Christ's teachings along with God's commands and prophets. They replaced them with pagan customs and teachings. They also tried to include fraudulent books into the Bible, but God did not allow them.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
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That is why the Catholic Bible is not called the "Holy Bible".
Even though Islam claims to submit to God, it does not. It rejects all the scriptures that God inspired to be written. It also rejects the commands of God.
The old pagan Moon-god religion had Mecca as its holy city. The symbols of the crescent moon and star are prevalent in Islam. The only thing that changed was that they now worship the God of Abraham. Everything else is still pagan and connected to the moon-god religion.
MidnightHustler75 1 year ago
Actually all the books of the bible were assembled by 200 AD. The bible was already assembled except for certain letters by the early church fathers. These were already bound by muhameds time. The Injeel is the term for the entire bible. If muhamed was refering to using only the 4 books of the gospels he would have said Injeel il muqudasa.
mumswording 1 year ago
I had the same problem I tried to comment once and it went all the way to the top. I just noticed this one you wrote.
First the books of the bible were compiled over a period from some say 50 AD to the completion of the main books of the bible at 325 AD. The acts as well as other books were letters tthat were compiled by early church leaders.
mumswording 1 year ago
How can the writers of the bible be correct? The words of the LORD are very clear.
John 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
Here is why the bible can be written by others and still be accurate. This also CANT be muhamed because its very clear in John 14:6 that the comforter will abide IN THEM. Now your turn
mumswording 1 year ago
at the same time you couldn't deny that the bible ordered you not to ask and to be ignorant !!you have no answer to the biblical verses I have quoted !!
what a pathetic looser
IslamResponses 1 year ago
Sami Zatary's argument that Jesus is not God is because Jesus did not say the exact words, "I am God, besides me there is no God".
Are Muslims dictating to God the conditions on which they will accept Jesus?
Is Jesus expected to bow down to Muslim demands on what to say and do?
Muslims claim that any part of the Bible, written in the span of 1,500 years, that disagrees with Mohammad's teachings, is the result of the Bible being corrupted. ...
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They do not believe God is capable of protecting and safeguarding His words in the Bible.
Therefore, if the apostles had quoted Jesus as saying, "I am God", they would accuse the apostles of lying, as they already do.
That gives Muslims their excuse for rejecting God, His Son and His commands.
How ironic that they should call themselves "Muslim" (One who has submitted to God).
In reality, they are in submission to Mohammad, not God.
MidnightHustler75 2 years ago
Sami Zatary quotes Isaiah 45:5 that says, "besides me there is no God" as proof that the Bible only refers to the numerical number 1.
Isa 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no God;
When a man and woman get married, they become ONE FLESH.
Gen 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become ONE FLESH. ...
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Mark 10:6-9 But from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female.'
'Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become ONE FLESH.' So they are no longer two but ONE FLESH.
What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate."
Though two separate and distinct beings, in this context, the two become ONE.
Yet in a physical sense that complete ONENESS is reached at the moment of conception. ...
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As one science book put it: "Human life begins in . . . cooperation of the most intimate sort. The two cells wholly merge. They combine their genetic material. Two very different beings become ONE. The act of making a human being involves . . . cooperation so perfect that the partners' separate identities vanish"
Paul explains that "there is ONE God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; ...
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... and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live" (1 Cor 8:6). Scripture reveals two separate, distinct persons, both spirit, yet one in unity, belief, direction and purpose—members of the same divine family. "I and My Father are ONE," said Jesus (John 10:30). ...
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When we understand what the Bible teaches, we see that there is only ONE God, just as there is only ONE human race—ONE extended family descended from Adam of presently about seven billion individuals. Just the same, the ONE divine family—the family of God—is open to an unlimited number of members.
MidnightHustler75 2 years ago
Sam Shamoun is wrong about the Trinity.
It is not found in the Bible.
In Genesis 1, God uses the plural form of the word God.
Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness.
John chapter 1 mentions only the Word (Jesus) and the Father are God.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ...
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John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
At the beginning of Paul's letters to the churches, he only mentions God the Father and Jesus Christ in his greetings.
He does not mention the Holy Spirit as a person.
1Cor 1:3 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
MidnightHustler75 2 years ago
Sam shamoun is a dirty kaffir just like that Keith thompson who posted his debate with brother sami zaatari, this keith guy was so arrogant I actually felt sick listening to him
ryukenb2k 2 years ago
all this chat at the start is confirmation of Islamic defeat. let the listener decide for their self!!
forzaitalia2 2 years ago
By placing all this bullshit at the start of the debate intstead of just playing it verbatim, you know something is up.
limersbey 2 years ago 2
Well thats odd ,why would a muslim live in New Zealand and not Afghanistan or Pakistan? I as a christian have no desire to live in Arabia- Guess running toilets are a good thing as is walking down the street without fear of some Muslim radical exploding his guts all over the place is a nice relief.
aperisions 2 years ago
guess wat they say about americans being ignorant isnt just a stereotype, egypt and the few other countries u mention r totally different places, not even the same continent but i guess ur american so its ok. anyway im not into shit slinging so i will let u have the last word and let ppl decide from wat they see. this the last reply.
stabby321 2 years ago
I agree we are ignorant if we were not we would understand collectively that Islam can never coexistent with the rest of the world and not allow them into our countries with open arms ,they simply do not assimilate into the society they live with-when there numbers in the country they live in reach a high enough level they take over and all hell breaks loose- Its happening now in Europe- I give it 10 more years before cities start burning-this simply does not happen with any other religion.
aperisions 2 years ago
THE DEITY OF CHRIST!
Matt 16:13-20
Peter's Confession of Christ 13When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"
aperisions 2 years ago
14They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets." 15"But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?" 16Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,[a] the Son of the living God." 17Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
aperisions 2 years ago
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18And I tell you that you are Peter,[b] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[c] will not overcome it.[d] 19I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[e] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[f] loosed in heaven." 20Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.
Question: would a mere prophet have the keys to the Kingdom of heaven? Question: would a mere prophet build HIS church?
aperisions 2 years ago
Muslims need to stop debating, people like nadir ahmed, shabir ally and ally atai are seriously damaging islam by taking part of these debates becuase the christians are totaly destroying islam!
Many muslims are questioning islam and some are even leaving islam by watching these debates!
dilawer321 2 years ago
u know wat i like about numbers, they dont lie, no opinions involved or even bias can change their meaning, a 1 is always a 1 etc... if u look at the growth rate of ppl to converting to islam its much greater than any other religion. i mean christianity started 600 years before islam and we r nearly equal with sects of christianity put together.
stabby321 2 years ago
Actualy, instead of sitting on your arse and watching deedat videos, why dont you actualy try checking these claims out for yourself? Dumbo, islam is the fastest growing religion due to high birth rates and imigration, the fastest rowing religion by conversion is christianity.Government statistics dont lie my friend, but obviously according to you they are done by jews, lol.. and oh yeah the 3rd/4th fastest growing religion is bhuddism and bahai, i guess we will all be bhuddist soon, lol dummy
dilawer321 2 years ago
which govt stats? ur church's stats dont count as govt btw. Wat ur saying is if deedat said it, it must be wrong? whos the dummy? im guessing thats wat the holy spirt does to ppl they get really good at insulting ppl and making baseless accusations.
stabby321 2 years ago
Despite Islams best efforts to stop the rise of Christianity by murdering excommunicating torture it still grows and grows in Egypt, Iran , Irag, turkey, if Muslims were treated the same way in the western countries Islam would not exist in America, Britain, Germany Australia Canada and so on, imagine how fast Christianity would grow if murdering Muslim apostates was taken out of the countries law.
aperisions 2 years ago
i got news for u, im egyptian and i have christian friends, u know wat else? none of them get tortured on a sunday for going to their church. do u mean the killing and raping in iraq, afganistan by ur brave soldiers is "the good way"? the millions of native americans or the african slaves? there is no continent on the plant that has christians on it that they werent forced into it from the start.
stabby321 2 years ago
I searched and searched for a verse that Jesus stated that was parallel to this verse that Mohammad stated(Quran9:123 O you who believe, fight those of the unbelievers near you and let them see how harsh you can be. Know that Allah is with the righteous).-Christian aggression was done in SPITE of the teachings of Christ- Islamic aggression was done in ACCORDANCE of Moahammad's teaching-(slight difference)
aperisions 2 years ago
u searched and searched and stumbled across an islam bashing forum and copied and pasted this like an idiot without finding out the context. that versed isnt general, its about a battle that was between the muslims and meccans who were prosecuting the muslims for 15years and they r being harsh in battle wats wrong with that? r supposed to meet them with flowers?
stabby321 2 years ago
3 Genuine questions to Muslims:
1) Why would the Jewish ledership seek to have Jesus killed for blaspheme if he never claimed to be God...one ex :John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."
2) Why else would Jesus say in John 14:6 "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." if it wasnt true?
3)Based on question 2 Would u call Jesus a liar by saying u can get to God thru the teachings of Mohamed?
dcogent1 2 years ago
the verse in 2) could be true too for a prophet which is muslims believe.
wat do u have to say about "My father is greater than I, my father is greater than all, I can of myself do nothing."
or Matthew Chapter 19:16-17
And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
stabby321 2 years ago
To be honest friend, I have no prob with either of the verses quoted..Understanding Jesus requires one to understand that there is an order of operation in everthing he says and does..quite often in the bible he appeals/reveals his humanity ex: "My father is greater than I," and other times he reveals his divinity "I and the Father are one'..no contradiction for he was both God and man..He is equal to the father as to the essence of his being. But why must we assume he is equal in position?
dcogent1 2 years ago
if he isnt then they rnt the same, if they rnt the same then u got more than 1. if he is referring and praying to another person, showing no signs of divinity then y attribute to him something he doesnt show.
stabby321 2 years ago
To tell you the truth If some one says to me I am the ONLY/EXCULISIVE way to the Father, either he is a LIAR, CRAZY or TRUTHFUL, besides Jesus NEVER said he was a Prophet, anywhere.I am following Jesus bro..you can have Mohamed(no disrespect)!
Much love to ya!
dcogent1 2 years ago
im not saying he is a liar, im just saying it would fit perfectly fine with a prophet, if u follow his path u end up in heaven, its logical to assume so as prophets r supposed to be an example to follow.
i respect the way u ended the conversation tho, to u be ur religion and to me be mine.
stabby321 2 years ago
Fa sho man,
I appreciate/respect your position as well
stay up,
God bless!
dcogent1 2 years ago
Good words dcogent1
aperisions 2 years ago
the deity of Christ is firmly in the second testament of christ in the bible-read the whole thing buddy dont just cherry pick verses to try to prove the false prophet Mohammad was somehow right-he was not.
aperisions 2 years ago
the fact that some verses could imply otherwise proves that there is a contradiction, its not my fault really.
stabby321 2 years ago
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aperisions 2 years ago
pamuk,
Let me try this again. You have an attribute called wisdom. You also have an attribute called spirit. Your attributes of wisdom and spirit are impersonal. But suppose that they were personal: that is, that those attributes are conscious and can do things. If so, then there would be ONE person (you), BUT, there would be THREE centers of consciousness in ONE person.
God's attributes of wisdom and spirit are personal, alive, conscious. That's the Trinity.
fmu93 2 years ago
thats an explanation and a poor 1 at that with no evidence for it in the bible. what about other attributes, mercy? compassion? intelligence?etc...
what if in a person u separate wisdom from spirt, wat do u end up with? bones thats wat. so both have to be 1, u cant treat them separately.
stabby321 2 years ago
oh, the muslim guy who introduces the debate thinks the muslim won the debate? what a surprise!
wittenbergdoor 2 years ago 3
Hello,
Wow. You didn't understand what I said at ALL, did you?
What I'm saying is that God's attribute of Wisdom happens to have a life of its own; the attribute of Wisdom is conscious. Same applies to God's spirit. Our wisdom and spirit are non-living, but God's wisdom and spirit are conscious and alive. So there is ONE God, and two of His attributes happen to have lives of their own. So in total, there are THREE centers of consciousness, but one God.
Now do you get it?
fmu93 2 years ago
I can explain the Trinity. There exists a being called God. For as long as God has existed, He has had wisdom. Both GOd and wisdom are the same age. Wisdom is generated from God, in the way that light is generated from a fire. It happens that God's wisdom is conscious, can think, do things, etc. This sounds strange, but God's attribute is alive. Thus, Wisdom is a person. God's attribute of spirit is also alive. Thus, we have ONE God, Who has TWO attributes that are both ALIVE. 3 ppl in one GOd.
fmu93 2 years ago
ahmed deedat may gad be pleased with him! would had crushed! that sam shamoun caracter! even sami crushed him just with logic that he couldn't bear up! ¬¬
god is great!!!
hkshadi 2 years ago
are you kidding me? sam lost ? :) i listened to the debate and it was as clear as possible that sami couldnt keep up with sam: long pauses, answering with questions and all these things that a beginner would do in front of a massive amount of prooves...
may god bless sam and his ministry
cnlnat 2 years ago
Any man who claims to fully understand the nature of God has only a religion of man and not of God. You a mere man knows everything about God, the infinite God of the Universe can fit in your head, I know now your god is not real.
I understand you believe Jesus was only a man, and because your really believe this I understand why you might pray for me. I don't believe you will pray, due to the lack of respect you have show, and I don't think it will help if you did, but thank you anyways.
Here4Yeshua 2 years ago
how could you say "your god is not real"? you are saying that god is not real... your god and our god is the same he will judge at the end... god is one!
hkshadi 2 years ago
This day you have attempted to represent what you believe to be truth, from a Muslim perspective, the torch of Islam in your hand. I put forth the word of God and reason in defense. And you, in this, can only spit back. The product of a religion is a mans heart, you have shown me yours. What you have done today is lifted Jesus higher in my heart, proving that it is him who changes a man, not religion. I will pray one day God gives rest to your anger, I am sorry you have to be the way you are.
Here4Yeshua 2 years ago
Because my natural disposition dose not believe in a man, it believes in a triune monotheistic God who entered his creation to save man kind, a God of limitless power. If you understood Christianity you would know this.
It is you that believe in a man for salvation, that man is your self. By the same mouth that you just used to spit on me you will profess before God that you followed the five pillars, expecting him to save you because you deserve it. Please continue to boast of your perfection
Here4Yeshua 2 years ago
Thomas calls him God as well, you would have know this if you actually looked. But you did not showing you are only interested in arguing. Also, the Bible does not have to conform to your demands, any logical person can look at language and context and see Jesus is called GOD and excepts the worship. Because this does not fit into your demands does not change the truth of what happened on that glorious day after the resurrection of Jesus. Ask what it means to demand evidence rather than search.
Here4Yeshua 2 years ago
First I would like to say I study religions in University, the Greek language is part of that. Never have I heard my teachers say that the English slang term "Oh my GD" was common use in Koine Greek. The Greek Is "o Kyrios mou kai o Theos mou", meaning the master OF ME and the GOD OF ME.
Furthermore you expect me to believe Thomas broke a foundational law of God (EX 20:6) and Jesus blessed him for it? But you wont look into it you have your mind made up already.
Here4Yeshua 2 years ago
Jhn 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, MY LORD and MY GOD.
Jhn 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed.
Jesus clearly allowed himself to be called LORD and GOD, he blesses those who do, you are mistaken.
Here4Yeshua 2 years ago
jesus said i am the first and the last (alpha &omega) wich is something only god is.. enough said
chillzz25 2 years ago
Swaggart is not a strong and smart debater,that he failed doesn't mean anything.I didn't see any "myth" exposed.The myths of the Quran are exposed-the Trinity of Father,Son and Mary;a "God" who offers salvation for money and many others.
lubenstern 2 years ago
Read John 13-13 and then say that Jesus have never proclaimed Himself to be a God.If you are not agree even then, continue to believe in the All-knowing Allah,who thinks that the Trinity is Father,Son and Mary.I'm agree that Shamoun didn't manage to protect the Christian viewpoint very accurately
lubenstern 2 years ago
factually that part of the bible has been thrown out only to be replaces watch deedat v swaggart where another christain myth is exposed
OZMYMAN 2 years ago
Unfortunately for all of you, Jesus and Mohamed are just people... God is not anything of human. It is all Astrological and not of the earthly realm. Religion is a fabricated idea to control, Like Slavery! Religion is for idiots, Intelligence kills religion.
IAMGODLIKE77 2 years ago
Hello,
2 months ago you said this: "Religion is for idiots, Intelligence kills religion."
So could you please then explain why some of the smartest men in history, like Aquinas, Galileo, Newton, Kepler, Brahe, etc were theists?
fmu93 2 years ago
On the contrary your opponent is weak because he is defending a flaw and illogical doctrine full of contradictions and discrepancies, a doctrine that Jesus PBUH and his disciples didn't preach nor call for, rather it was invented and concocted about 3 centuries after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus PBUH
seven7way 2 years ago
good job brother sami, by Allah's will you'll always win because you are on the right path and you are defending a logical and reasonable doctrine that is the belief in the oness of Allah and that Jesus PBUH is a great Messenger of God, not a son of God, or God incarnated,etc.
seven7way 2 years ago
I don't know how the universe is created and what the whole universe has.
But fortunately I know what the quran says about the paradise(jannah) and the quran says what is the way to Jannah. Those who does not know how jannah is, please google it.
Even in this life I don't want to get those happiness as said in the jannah. Why do you want me to live as the quran says for eternal life.
Hence I would like to live as Jesus said love your enemy and neighbor, as Jesus said.
Hence I pray to Jesus.
dgs3210 3 years ago
Brother sami kept his cool, blah blah blah, yeah right!!
theMorgue78 3 years ago 3
fmu93, could you explain this verse? Jesus speaking:
"And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form" (John 5:37)
someguy6481 3 years ago
Hello,
Apparently 6 months ago, you asked me to explain the verse John 5:37. Personally, I'm not sure what needs explaining. In the context, Jesus is talking to the Pharisees, who boasted of how morally good they were, and how they had a relationship with God, but actually were hypocrites. Jesus was pointing out that they did not actually know God, because they failed to recognize Jesus. I Colossians 1:15 says Jesus is the image of God. Hence, if you really know GOd, then you'll know Jesus.
fmu93 2 years ago
excuse me? "brother Sami kept his cool?" What about all the insults Zaatari threw at Shamoun? I'm not justifying Sam Shamoun's insults, but it would be hypocritical to say that Zaatari was innocent. Also, Zaatari didn't win. Jesus may never have said the exact phrase "I am God", but that doesn't mean He isn't. There are plenty of other places that show Jesus is God. Zaatari's challenge is basically, "Betcha can't jump over that house...I knew you couldn't!"
fmu93 3 years ago 2
where are those places where he (jesus) says that he is god?
hkshadi 2 years ago
Aren't pictures of Jesus forbidden for muslims?
Deliratio 3 years ago
Religion! Opium of the masses! religious zombies instead of brains!
lumster 3 years ago
Christians are evil they always find ways to evil by saying Jesus took their sin away. They try to say no person is perfect therefore they can sin. They are possessed with the evil spirit they call the holy spirit and it was exposed here how hey cussed.
promonument 3 years ago
i am a muslim, ansd i do agree that sam is a "active" speaker. (he expose the lie as the true) but remember half true is more dangerous than full lie
sahil299 3 years ago
Agree, Christianity Lunatic Faith are based on Fabrication. hands down
ProudlyAmerica 3 years ago