As with all things in Ireland there are three sides to the story. This video is just one fragment of one side of a story. Quite a number of rebels murdered ordinary policemen just because they were wearing an RIC uniform. It didn’t matter if they were Protestant or Catholic, with or without family, these Irishmen (and women and children) were murdered in cold blood. Irish history is written in Irishmen’s blood by the hand of murderers.
In his poem "Notes for my son", Alex Comfort wrote:
"Remember, when you say that the old trick would not have fooled you for a moment,
That every time it is the trick which seems new."
From some of the comments it would appear that young men never learn that, and are ready to be tricked into violent acts which can readily be justified because they were somehow in defence of home or family. Violence begets violence, the Black & Tans found that … and the IRA too.
England has a history of terrorist acts around the globe. They created the term concentration camps decades before Hitler during the 19th century Boar war, which their own middle class said enough is enough....but the PMs went on.
Love these songs, I'm English but I know my Grandad was offered a commission in the Black and Tans but refused, as an English Catholic he knew he'd be killing his own people
Some of these comments below are hilarious. Projecting your opinions as facts as if you yourselves were actually present during the time this video footage was made. Grow up. I think you all need to open the history books once or twice before you begin to point the blame. Especially those threatening violence or calling us Irish, 'parasites' or the English, 'cunts'. Get your facts straight. It's the under-educated like yourselves that could plummet our amazing country back into war.
@WUDJABEABLE No their not. IRA were ill disciplined scum equivalent to the SA ( the people Hitler purged in the early 1930's) England just realised oh Southern Ireland is full of inbred faggots and not of any economic or social use lets give these parasites independance.
@WUDJABEABLE Learn to use capital letters you pinched face prick . What I meant is just like the SA the IRA had little discipline and so found it hard to last in the long run. As for Southern Ireland the fact its in even a bigger mess than France shows how shit you Irish are at running countries.
@Colton8646 IRA had little discipline? The IRA were formed only to remove the British from our lands and the only way that could be done would be through the use of arms. So of course the IRA had little discipline, they murdered British soldiers which was exactly the reason why England pulled out of Ireland and gave us independence. I will say the SA were scum through Hitlers' regime but the original IRA were freedom fighters and did what they fuckin had to do U WANKER
Silly Prick, discipline isn't about being peaceful or not its about coping under fire and using tactics. For example the Roman army was partly so sucessful because it had tremendous discipline in its ranks . Whereas IRA and SA had little of this this was why Hitler purged the SA and the IRA failed, IRA were just scum who killed more of their own people than any "enemies" one story that particuarly amused me was a IRA terrorist made a bomb and it went off prematurely killing him.
@Colton8646 You really do have no brain. I'm not talking about the PIRA or CIRA in the 1970s and 1980s. I'm talking about the original IRA that was formed back in early 1900s as I said to remove England from Ireland. Get on point. You haven't a clue about the IRA.
@WUDJABEABLE Oh really. Original IRA members included Roger Casement who tried to backstab Britain in WW1 by letting in a German Submarine, IRA also helped Nazi's in WW2 and as I said to another poster not that the Nazi's wouldn't have later exterminate the inbreeding Irish if they had won. So when in comes down to it the first IRA like all other IRA's were a digusting ill disciplined shit heap.
You're all talk. At least I hope you are, because if you actually meant what you've been writing then you are deemed, officially, the most stupid, ignorant, OFFENSIVE individual that ever virtually existed.
@nidhornain123 Not about the inbred Irish that was pure joke but the rest of what I said is backed up by historical fact. The so called "IRA" did help the Nazi's and did try to stab Britain in the back in WW1.
black n tans dident kill enough of those murdering cowardly irish bastards, but i suppose getting shagged in the ass by the bloke in the long black dress wasent nice either
its history now thank god....... peace on this Island of Ireland.......what more could you want... i would accept now that there will never be a united Ireland unless the WHOLE of the 6 counties want it..... wont happen in my life time but the word "peace" means so much...
A shameful episode in British history.The tans raped and murdered wholesale yet no war crimes trials for them. My grandfather (R.I.P) shot 2 of them in Mayo after they entered his house during the night (that old tactic) My father was a baby at the time and I applaud my grandfather for defending his wife and kids effectively. The antics of the tans were vile.
@Fioneenacockeen hey did u know that after irish indepence the tans were sent 2 india 2 suppress the people and they did loads of crime in india \ my fathern was a kid and saw them in bombay
Look *Wankitt*, it's obvious that you have neither girlfriend nor any kind of sex life as you are so aggressive and a complete time-waster.. It may be a good idea for you to try to get a girlfriend or to masturbate more...it could help you to calm down and then perhaps you will stop verbally attacking perfrect strangers online. Now, if you don't mind, I am busy as I have a life and lots to do
@Flankitto04 I suppose it would've been more polite of him to allow them to murder and rape as they wished, rather than defend his defenceless and innocent loved ones?! If and when it happens to you, you'll hopefully understand.
@Fioneenacockeen Fuck off, Irish have always been cowards. First you piss of Cromwell who kicks the shit out of you, then IRA twat James Collony Patrick Pearse and Joseph Plunkett actually thought then could beat England in the Irish rising, theres a reason why England won such a huge empire. A month later all three of the leaders got what they deserved a bullet.
@Colton8646 What the hell are you on about? My uncles fought in WW2 (RAF) and my aunt was a captain and nurse in the British army, along with many other Irish men and women. Learn some history and endeavour to learn to spell properly in your mother tongue and to improve your grammar....thick cunt.
Oh...and pray do tell, what was 'the reason why England won such a huge empire' ? In your own words, do your best.....
@Fioneenacockeen Then your uncles and aunt were in a minority of Irish, and it wasn't just WW2 in WW1 Irish let a German submarine dock illegallly. As for the empire England knew a strong navy could kick ass and so built up one England also had fabulous generals eg James Wolfe. Also good old Queen Elizabeth was very shrewd and conducted a guerilla warfare against the Spanish with the help of Drake. As for why the Irish were beaten was well they backed the wrong team in
@Fioneenacockeen the Civil war and they had no discipline put that against Oliver Cromwell Roundheads probably best army in the world and they had no chance.
@Fioneenacockeen Oh and during WW2 silly old Irish tried to stab Britain in the back and failed. Meaning you dirty faced pricks were helping Nazi's. What amuses me is that you think the Nazi's if they won WW2 wouldn't have just shot all the Irish who were hardly racially pure with all their inbreeding.
@Colton8646 "What amuses me is that you think the Nazi's if they won WW2 wouldn't have just shot all the Irish who were hardly racially pure with all their inbreeding."
What a strange assumption to make on your part.Is that what I "think"? Thanks for enlightening me.
"Dirty faced pricks"
Really? is that your honest opinion?
Am I to understand that you hate all Irish people Colton? Are we all of the same opinion politically, morally and socially and of equal character?
@patrickshoes I agree. It's a pity that there are still yet such hate-mongers around in this day and age (as I've gathered from some of the comments on this page). You'd think or hope they'd have learnt something from history.
@MrRattyy why don't you lot get the fuck out of our country?! And stop being so bloody greedy about money and land and whatever is the reason you cunts won't give us our rightful freedom. For hundreds of years we've had to live under your laws. Just feck off and leave us alone!!
@RichardElden Well, RichardElden, you seem to have a strong Loyalist or anti-Irish attitude(it's very annoying, by the way). This disturbs me, as you are looking up pro-Irish freedom/Irish Rebel songs & videos. Why? Apparently to spew your shit...but you're so "smart", "educated", & definitely not "ignorant scum". So tell us, oh mighty British man, tell us: When will the next IMF bailout be? Well, in my mind, your country is a failed Roman Empire. Accept it. When will the next riot be? TAL ;)
@RichardElden I'm really not feeling the love here - you just don't want to let go. You already said it was a gift, I already said it was a loan the UK would make money on. That's part of our problem - you just don't listen.
But ( sob ) for old times sake sweedie, up Roosevelt, saviour of the UK & up the valiant Republic.
Now, before I slam the door, you have to learn to let go? All this anger isn't good for you, you have to start making it work for you. Big mwahs, duckie.
@RichardElden I'm leaving this strand now, it doesn't feel like home anymore. Don't try to contact me again or to follow me. I'll always remember you but I have to move on!
@dermotwalker ..LOL..I see you have met YT's one and only..he does however seem to have added an 'L' into his name. Looks like since he crossed the border into Scotland and bored us all into voting SNP, he has now travelled across the waters. Ah the fond memories come flooding back. How so and so had cancer and how glad he was that that's how they died. Oh but no his hopes didn't stop there. He hoped yet another so and so would die just like his first one, of cancer. Lovely human is Richard :)
@paulinesmith44 I have wondered about RichardElden on more than one occasion. Sometimes looks like a straight windup. So daft other times, I can't decide if he's researching a thesis about online communication. His 'So glad about...' remarks are so desperate to provoke, so...needy, they don't look real.
Can't say I'm entirely clear where you're coming from either paulinesmith44. You're not part of the RichardElden project by any chance, are you?
@dermotwalker I came across richard on a Braveheart site...he was always going on about how he 'so glad about' something or another. Merely saying on those exchanges i had with him, he would often say stuff like" i hope mel gibson dies of cancer just like Patrick Swayzee"....certainly hope i'm not part of his project...hope that makes more sense of my first comment :)
@RichardElden Stop it or I'l cry! You're so good to try...but I'd rather remember us the way we were. When we cared what we were arguing about. I'll never forget you RichardElden, as fiercely undaunted an enemy of logic, as ever the Lord put breath in - Don't go changing!
@RichardElden I can't help feeling we're just going through the motions though: the thrill is gone. I appreciate your attempt to goad me about the economy and I tried my best to respond in kind but, I dunno. It all feels sorta formulaic now?
I'll always remember you though: your little lists of likes, your peculiar blend of provocation and prickly defensiveness and the arbitrary repeating of points made earlier with no apparent relevance to the matter at hand.
And if the euro goes tits up & big European banks are hit, "the UK could experience a "substantial contractionary shock," the IMF has already warned. ( Substantial means you'll be in the same boat we are. )
@RichardElden Few, if any, countries 'dealt' with it until the war started, including Britain.
I'm intensely relaxed that you're glad about those thing old son though I've no idea why anyone would be glad or sad about them? But tell me, should the queen have stayed in bed that day or not? Is she just a sock puppet?
And do you know how much the Irish did to help the Allies win?
@RichardElden No, he wouldn't. The main invasion force would been the far greater danger.
Roosevelt was a towering genius who is revered for his successful waging of the war against totalitarianism. The little guy has a great place too but it's firmly in his shadow.
Of course I do. Do you know how much the Irish did to help the allies win? A great deal more than the greasy little sectarian state in the north.
Love what makes you 'glad'. Really makes you look bright. :))))
@RichardElden I really don't think he'd have had us on his mind, if the Germans were invading??
Roosevelt, a GIANT of a man. The man who wrote all the cheques to keep the crumbling British Empire afloat during and esp after, the war. Get over it. The UK is just one vast heritage site now ( a very good one, mind you ).
So to sum it up, since I am a student of International Relations, I know what I am talking about therefore I am right and you do not appear to be an intelligent individual, but more of a pathetic human being who needs to comment on Irish articles to provoke a reaction in order to feel fulfilled, which I assume means that you have no life whatsoever, I suggest you get one.
They have continued to exchange information with our security authorities regarding all aliens (including Germans) in Southern Ireland.They have (within the last few days) agreed to our establishing a Radar station in Southern Ireland for use against the latest form of submarine activity.
@RichardElden Recently, in connection with the establishment of prisoner of war camps in Northern Ireland, they have agreed to return or at least intern any German prisoners who may escape from Northern Ireland across the border to Southern Ireland.They have throughout offered no objection to the departure from Southern Ireland of persons wishing to serve in the United Kingdom Forces nor to the journey on leave of such persons to and from Southern Ireland (in plain clothes).
@RichardElden They arranged for staff talks on the question of co-operation against a possible German invasion of Southern Ireland, and close contact has since been maintained between the respective military authorities.
They continue to intern all German fighting personnel reaching Southern Ireland. On the other hand, though after protracted negotiations, Allied service personnel are now allowed to depart freely and full assistance is given in recovering damaged aircraft.
@RichardElden They arranged for the broadening of reports by their Air observation Corps of aircraft sighted over or approaching Southern Irish territory. (This does not include our aircraft using the corridor referred to in (b) above.)They arranged for the extinction of trade and business lighting in coastal towns where such lighting was alleged to afford a useful landmark for German aircraft. They have continued to supply us with meteorological reports.
@RichardElden They have agreed to use by our aircraft based on Lough Erne of a corridor over Southern Irish territory and territorial waters for the purpose of flying out to the Atlantic.
They have arranged for the immediate transmission to the United Kingdom Representative’s Office in Dublin of reports of submarine activity received from their coast watching service.
Just shows hows how ignorant and misinformed you are,the British War Cabinet has a report which detailed; They agreed to our use of Lough Foyle for naval and air purposes. The ownership of the Lough is disputed, but the Southern Irish authorities are tacitly not pressing their claim in present conditions and are also ignoring any flying by our aircraft over the Donegal shore of the Lough, which is necessary in certain wind conditions to enable flying boats to take off the Lough.
@RichardElden Roosevelt, even more than Churchill, always told people what they wanted to hear but he was very clear about Ireland - it would cost him too much at home.
In the event of a German invasion, the US would have had to invade Britain before France.
@RichardElden You have to admire the Queen for finally recognising the truth about those who fought the crown. Not like her mother, the mad old bitch who never understood the huge debt Britain owed the Republic for all the help she gave her old enemy in her hour of need. Up The Republic!
@RichardElden He bent the knee, every time he met Roosevelt - that's a metaphor btw, I presumed you knew that. If Roosevelt wanted Churchill to paint his arse green, white & blue and sing 'Danny Boy' in the White House Garden, he'd have done it gladly. The UK was done for without the might of American production & wealth.
So what, if he'd done it, it would have been an entirely empty gesture but now that she's done it, every good loyalist must accept his Queen's actions.
@RichardElden It's a matter of record that he wanted the ports. He threatened and raged about them, sent ambassadors to plead - and his papers prove it. He needed, he knelt ( before Roosevelt ) and was told No.
What about the queen, is she a sock puppet or was she wrong to honour those who fought the crown in Ireland? Would she bow before the Japanese shrines to convicted war criminals too, if asked?
The B&T's were a motley crew or mercenaries,sent to to the dirty work and quell rebellion in Ireland. The truth is that the Government cared less if that desperate policy worked or not, the same British Government had slaughtered the cream of it's own country in a pointless war with Germany . The British Empire was beginning to unfold, like all Empires it existed on the oppression and exploitation of poor people, including it's own.
@RichardElden When he wanted to invade, Roosevelt stopped him. It was only later the new tech made it unnecessary. So, when he did need the ports, his real boss, prompted by the voting power of all the descendants of the famine emigrants that Britain ignored the prev century, said no. In other words, history came back to bite Churchill and Britain in the ass.
BTW, the Republic played a vital role - far more vital than the north did - in the Allied victory. We saved your asses, niggers.
@RichardElden You're a joke why do you keep posting on our Irish heritage videos, you're whats wrong with this world! If you think these black and tans were heroes your an idiot they were bastards! The americans got rid of their english convicts, and so did the republic! Absolute criminals!
@RichardElden The Tans were mad. Shell shocked vets mostly but incl some specially released criminally insane convicts, among them.
Their time in Ireland didn't do most of them any good, wasn't a fit reward for what the suffered during the war and drove quite a few mad.
Like Grenadier Guardsman Daniel Cook, recently dismissed from the British army after stabbing a 10-year-old Afghan boy in his kidneys with a bayonet for no reason.
@RichardElden We all know he drew up the plan but Roosevelt wouldn't let him because of all the Irish voters in America. Who wouldn't have been there but for the famine. The soviets were great but couldn't have fought without all the equipment sent to them by the US, so the US still come out on top.
And the UVF were always bit players - bit like those American survivalist cults that live in compounds and think they're armies. Poor deluded wannabes.
a lot off the tans came out of bar-l prison glasgow some were in for rape+ murder .and were given a pardon off freedom if they would go to erin to cause havoc.+be paid plus keep the plunder....
@RichardElden The UVF lost Britain the south btw, their only achievement.
Why is the queen so praised, if she has no responsibility for her actions? Her marvellous 'stewardship,' her 'great political brain' etc, etc, are always cited as some of her many talents. But she can't be praised for anything if she can't decide anything.
And I'm sure she'd have been 'ill' that day, if it really suited her. So, call it kiddo, was SHE wrong not to stay in bed that day??
@RichardElden The Americans saved your hides in both wars, sonny. And the battle of britain was a defensive one. Without American might, you'd probly still have a german monarch but it would be from a different branch of the family.
Churchill was always down on one knee before Roosevelt and he made clear he wouldn't allow him invade because of the all the Irish votes it would have cost him. That's real power and and real independence. The UK is to the US, as Ireland is to the UK!
@hhhhhhhhhhhhhhgfdse Hmm. Not entirely convinced. Hasn't really got the vocab for a former inmate of even the most minor public school, never mind the posh-gosh. Could be inbred though...
@RichardElden You're NEARLY there, think a little bit harder. Was SHE wrong? Not was 'it' wrong? Yes or no. I'll explain the difference to you, when you've answered the question.
BTW, you wouldn't have any independence if the Americans hadn't bailed you out TWICE, after the Germans kicked your asses TWICE when you came over to the continent. Otherwise, you'd all have been like the Channel Islands - even the British bobbies collaborated!
@RichardElden As I explained earlier, I didn't ask you if she could act independently, I asked you if she was wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence? ( You're right, it wasn't full independence but that's beside the point - was she wrong?? )
Bought them from your German King's German cousin, so they could stage a coup against 'their' king.
@RichardElden If you can handle the question about her maj, then we progress on to the Churchill one until you've criticised every national front member's holy trinity: Thatcher, the Queen and Churchill.
Did you like the dig about the loyal sons of Ulster importing arms from the Kaiser while their King was at war with Germany? Never mind, as the Kaiser said at the outbreak of hostilities, 'Cousin George would never have declared war, if grandma ( Victoria) was alive!'
@RichardElden Jesus, at times like this I envy Pavlov, at least he was working with something trainable.
The 'Churchill one' I'm only dieing to ask you fido, as I've patiently explained more than once, comes after you earn your dog biscuit by first answering the question currently stumping your poor mutt's arse of a mind: Was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence? Are you going to criticize the Queen too?
@RichardElden Was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence? Are you going to criticize the Queen too? :)))))))))
Can you answer that before you go back to the same old guff about 'unification,' the imf, bobby sands, the black n tans, 9/11 or lockerbie??? Can ya Einstein? It's a very simple question...
I was very interested in ur worldly opinon about the state of Irish affairs and the like.
Seems u have vast experience with the us lot,the unwashed rabble that we are.
Most unbecoming I know but alas we cant all be lucky enough to have blue blood and the glorious British Monarchy as 'the' beam of light & the standard to live by (sigh if only)
BTW, my 'Brits 9/11' posting IS a parody of RichardElden's frequent comment that he's 'So glad about all the Americans killed in the 9/11 attacks and the Lockerbie bombing'. Just in case anyone ( normal ) thinks I was serious?
Haha no I get ya friend,and thats the thing,any rational person would understand that these kind of sentiments are usually found in the mind of a very troubled soul like our (now elusive) friend Mr Elden.
Is it possible he may not take the bait?
Shame really,I do find these types most amusing.
Seems like we'll have to wait for another little fishy to swim by ;-)
Ah no, he'll be back eventually. In his own mind, he's stirring the pot but it looks a lot like he's getting his 'argument's off somebody else, hence the delay when you ask what's a ( for him ) difficult question that any child could answer without delay. My money's on some more guff about IMF bailouts because he doesn't have the gears upstairs for any kind of fluid game.
Still hasn't answered the one about the queen and i'm dieing to give him my churchill one!
@llokkee We could start an Eldenism contest: think up crazed one liners that don't really make sense even on their own terms.
Eg. @RichardEleden Germany will always beat Britain, no matter how many times America saves her hide - two world wars later, we're still running Europe!
post wwi assins hired by the british gov to get the killer off their necks....damn...the great Parnell...remembered after these decades....I will look for gps units under my dog...my car is unaccessable to the corporate goves.
@RichardElden PS. More to the point, what are you jeering about? 7bn sterling is 300 for every household in Britain. It would pay for all the welfare cuts made in the UK. If anything, people should be laughing at you.
In future, I want you think about the question before you try to answer? This confused, wobbling all over the place is making you look silly. And by definition, that kinda makes me look bad for making fun of an idiot.
@RichardElden Been looking over your other homework too squire and it's clear you're falling behind in economics too. Ireland didn't get a 'huge bailout' from the UK, it got a 7bn sterling loan which will be repaid at a higher rate than the money was borrowed at. It's not said ( out loud ) in the UK but the rationale was based on the need to protect the trade the UK does with Ireland. 10% of British exports come here.
@RichardElden That's the answer to an entirely different question and I'll point out what's wrong with it later. ( I don't wanna overload a man who takes six entire days to come back with a weak evasion like that ).
So, here we go again! Was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence? Are you going to criticize the Queen too?
( Apologies to all the other contributors but the class can only progress at the pace of the thickest student. )
@afertyus1000 DON'T REPLY TO HIS NEXT COMMENT. I did before, & I noticed how much of an uneducated, ignorant, single-minded cunt he his. You'll beat him in an argument, but all he'll do is say "When's the next IMF bailout?" So please take this advice, mate TAL;
@RichardElden Nobody will ever know the answer to that question, you dumb cunt. Maybe it will be in a few years, but "Great" Britain will be the ones being bailed-out by the I.M.F. You live in front of a computer...just STOP w/ it
NEWSFLASH FOR RICHARDELDEN. People like myself didn't really regard Ireland as truly independent BEFORE the bailout, so we certainly don't now.
But back to the point matey. Was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence? Are you going to criticize the Queen too? Six days now and still, poor RichardElden can’t answer a simple question about HRH - what sort of a British subject ARE you?? :))))))))))))))))))))))
@RichardElden Yeah, don't come round here no more. Got lots more embarrassing questions for you to run from! ( When y'ever get round to answering the last one... )
YES the black and tans were worthless shit who could never face the Ra on equal terms they were highly paid blood money mercenaries who had no honour unlike the irish heroes
@RichardElden Was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence?? Are you going to criticize the Queen too? 2 days and counting. Has RichardElden 'left the building'? :))))))))))))))))))))))
@dermotwalker Just realised I mistook you for a different poster. I was having a laugh about how awful the wolfe tones - who sing the song 'come out ye black and tans' - are.
@RichardElden Are those things meant to annoy me? :) Too right Germany's set our budget and we've lost the teensy, weensy bit of cod independence we had.
But the question you're dodging is, was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence?? Are you going to criticize the Queen too?
@dermotwalker Either you're just a mouth who can give it but can't take it or you're having to phone a friend because you don't know the answer. Neither makes you look very bright...
What a bullshit song - the IRA's 'pitched battles' only constituted 20% of their causalities; the rest were point blank executions. 'Come out ye black and tans and fight me like a man'.... or not unless you want to get blown away by a black and tans rifle, better to wait until night and execute him at point blank range,
@RichardElden Now, now! Throwing your rattle outta the pram, isn't going to change anything. And nobody likes a sore loser.
Here's one for you, was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence?? Are you going to criticize the Queen too? :))))))))))))))))))))))
@RichardElden Got some sympathy for your point of view on the Yes but...gotta say she was spot on to fear the impact of what Sands bequeathed to Northern Ireland when he broke and remoulded electoral politics in the north, in the way that most of the elder statesmen of the Tory party I've spoken to ( who certainly don't admire him ) reluctantly concede. Hate him and them, all you like but there it is. And it don't matter how often ya stamp yer foot, there it stays.
@RichardElden That's not only possible, it's highly likely but you don't seem to be able to answer the question I keep putting to you, are you saying Maggie is wrong?
@RichardElden Case of the beer goggles on there, I reckon. Why didn't the loyalist side sign up for it in '73 then? It would have meant 30 years of peaceful coexistence inside the UK. And why did they so badly want their own parliament back, after it was abolished?
Fact of the matter is, power sharing means equality and sinn fein which was what maggie feared Sands had set in motion with his death. She was right.
As with all things in Ireland there are three sides to the story. This video is just one fragment of one side of a story. Quite a number of rebels murdered ordinary policemen just because they were wearing an RIC uniform. It didn’t matter if they were Protestant or Catholic, with or without family, these Irishmen (and women and children) were murdered in cold blood. Irish history is written in Irishmen’s blood by the hand of murderers.
goinghomesomeday1 3 days ago
In his poem "Notes for my son", Alex Comfort wrote:
"Remember, when you say that the old trick would not have fooled you for a moment,
That every time it is the trick which seems new."
From some of the comments it would appear that young men never learn that, and are ready to be tricked into violent acts which can readily be justified because they were somehow in defence of home or family. Violence begets violence, the Black & Tans found that … and the IRA too.
GeorgeIIR 3 days ago
England has a history of terrorist acts around the globe. They created the term concentration camps decades before Hitler during the 19th century Boar war, which their own middle class said enough is enough....but the PMs went on.
bweber2k 4 days ago
Love these songs, I'm English but I know my Grandad was offered a commission in the Black and Tans but refused, as an English Catholic he knew he'd be killing his own people
clevblue 1 week ago
Thank you for this post, both educational and interesting.
edward0988 1 week ago
WE WILL RISE AGAIN
MisterBigsac 1 week ago
some "actual footage of attacks"... good info, though.. IRA and IMRO - bro's in arms!! Failté
pittoBG 1 week ago
Some of these comments below are hilarious. Projecting your opinions as facts as if you yourselves were actually present during the time this video footage was made. Grow up. I think you all need to open the history books once or twice before you begin to point the blame. Especially those threatening violence or calling us Irish, 'parasites' or the English, 'cunts'. Get your facts straight. It's the under-educated like yourselves that could plummet our amazing country back into war.
nidhornain123 2 weeks ago
UP THE IRA
nb45001 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@nb45001 Up from the slime to the gutter.
Flankitto04 1 week ago
@Flankitto04 yah hay
nb45001 1 week ago
FUCK THESE HORRIBLE ENGLISH SCUMBAGS . THE IRA DID A BRILLIANT JOB ON YOU CUNTS
WUDJABEABLE 3 weeks ago 7
@WUDJABEABLE IRA were shit and ineffective all they did was blow up their own country well fucking done.
Colton8646 2 weeks ago
@Colton8646 The IRA are the reason Ireland got independence
WUDJABEABLE 2 weeks ago
@WUDJABEABLE No their not. IRA were ill disciplined scum equivalent to the SA ( the people Hitler purged in the early 1930's) England just realised oh Southern Ireland is full of inbred faggots and not of any economic or social use lets give these parasites independance.
Colton8646 2 weeks ago
@Colton8646 that makes no sense at all. well educated you are!
WUDJABEABLE 2 weeks ago
@WUDJABEABLE Learn to use capital letters you pinched face prick . What I meant is just like the SA the IRA had little discipline and so found it hard to last in the long run. As for Southern Ireland the fact its in even a bigger mess than France shows how shit you Irish are at running countries.
Colton8646 2 weeks ago
@Colton8646 IRA had little discipline? The IRA were formed only to remove the British from our lands and the only way that could be done would be through the use of arms. So of course the IRA had little discipline, they murdered British soldiers which was exactly the reason why England pulled out of Ireland and gave us independence. I will say the SA were scum through Hitlers' regime but the original IRA were freedom fighters and did what they fuckin had to do U WANKER
WUDJABEABLE 2 weeks ago
Silly Prick, discipline isn't about being peaceful or not its about coping under fire and using tactics. For example the Roman army was partly so sucessful because it had tremendous discipline in its ranks . Whereas IRA and SA had little of this this was why Hitler purged the SA and the IRA failed, IRA were just scum who killed more of their own people than any "enemies" one story that particuarly amused me was a IRA terrorist made a bomb and it went off prematurely killing him.
Colton8646 2 weeks ago
@Colton8646 You really do have no brain. I'm not talking about the PIRA or CIRA in the 1970s and 1980s. I'm talking about the original IRA that was formed back in early 1900s as I said to remove England from Ireland. Get on point. You haven't a clue about the IRA.
WUDJABEABLE 2 weeks ago
@WUDJABEABLE Oh really. Original IRA members included Roger Casement who tried to backstab Britain in WW1 by letting in a German Submarine, IRA also helped Nazi's in WW2 and as I said to another poster not that the Nazi's wouldn't have later exterminate the inbreeding Irish if they had won. So when in comes down to it the first IRA like all other IRA's were a digusting ill disciplined shit heap.
Colton8646 2 weeks ago
@Colton8646
Why do you keep calling the Irish inbred?
It's a bit hypocritical, considering your Queen today is related to her husband and that has been the way for centuries, don't ya think?
nidhornain123 2 weeks ago
@nidhornain123 Why because its true, oh its true.
Colton8646 2 weeks ago
@Colton8646
LOL LOL LOL LOL.
Are you actually being serious?
You're all talk. At least I hope you are, because if you actually meant what you've been writing then you are deemed, officially, the most stupid, ignorant, OFFENSIVE individual that ever virtually existed.
nidhornain123 1 week ago
@nidhornain123 Not about the inbred Irish that was pure joke but the rest of what I said is backed up by historical fact. The so called "IRA" did help the Nazi's and did try to stab Britain in the back in WW1.
Colton8646 1 week ago
@WUDJABEABLE Dont talk to that loner, he is another loser who wants attention online. these walter mittys are 10 a penny.
gespb32 2 weeks ago
@WUDJABEABLE yet northen Ireland is still british and the British army is still going strong while the IRA is crumberling....GREAT JOB RIGHT THERE
Britainsloyalist 1 week ago
@Britainsloyalist Crumberling? The IRA is no more you idiot.
WUDJABEABLE 1 week ago
@Britainsloyalist crumberling?????typical brit...learn how to spell !!!
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pad738 4 days ago
black n tans dident kill enough of those murdering cowardly irish bastards, but i suppose getting shagged in the ass by the bloke in the long black dress wasent nice either
redbaron5795 3 weeks ago
its history now thank god....... peace on this Island of Ireland.......what more could you want... i would accept now that there will never be a united Ireland unless the WHOLE of the 6 counties want it..... wont happen in my life time but the word "peace" means so much...
fairhillnorrie 3 weeks ago
A shameful episode in British history.The tans raped and murdered wholesale yet no war crimes trials for them. My grandfather (R.I.P) shot 2 of them in Mayo after they entered his house during the night (that old tactic) My father was a baby at the time and I applaud my grandfather for defending his wife and kids effectively. The antics of the tans were vile.
Fioneenacockeen 1 month ago 13
@Fioneenacockeen hey did u know that after irish indepence the tans were sent 2 india 2 suppress the people and they did loads of crime in india \ my fathern was a kid and saw them in bombay
sterlingmenthol77 4 weeks ago
@sterlingmenthol77 I think is a bit of projecting on your part.
Flankitto04 3 weeks ago
@sterlingmenthol77 I didn't know that. Thanks for the information :)
Fioneenacockeen 3 weeks ago
@Fioneenacockeen YOUR GRANDFATHER IS A MURDER. He's in hell paying for his crimes. I would not be advertising this if I were you.
Flankitto04 3 weeks ago
@Flankitto04 Cock
Fioneenacockeen 3 weeks ago
@Fioneenacockeen I have one. IT's going up your mouth.
Flankitto04 1 week ago
@Flankitto04 "UP(?) my mouth"??!!
Look *Wankitt*, it's obvious that you have neither girlfriend nor any kind of sex life as you are so aggressive and a complete time-waster.. It may be a good idea for you to try to get a girlfriend or to masturbate more...it could help you to calm down and then perhaps you will stop verbally attacking perfrect strangers online. Now, if you don't mind, I am busy as I have a life and lots to do
Fioneenacockeen 1 week ago
@Flankitto04 Oh, and I believe the word you're looking for is murderER. That's how you spell it correctly :)
Fioneenacockeen 3 weeks ago
@Fioneenacockeen Thank you teacher.
Flankitto04 1 week ago
@Flankitto04 I suppose it would've been more polite of him to allow them to murder and rape as they wished, rather than defend his defenceless and innocent loved ones?! If and when it happens to you, you'll hopefully understand.
Fioneenacockeen 3 weeks ago
@Fioneenacockeen At least good, decent british citizens would have been borne or is it born? My gaelic is not too good.
Flankitto04 1 week ago
@Flankitto04 Elaborate please
Fioneenacockeen 1 week ago
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Flankitto04 1 week ago
@Fioneenacockeen Fuck off, Irish have always been cowards. First you piss of Cromwell who kicks the shit out of you, then IRA twat James Collony Patrick Pearse and Joseph Plunkett actually thought then could beat England in the Irish rising, theres a reason why England won such a huge empire. A month later all three of the leaders got what they deserved a bullet.
Colton8646 2 weeks ago
@Colton8646 What the hell are you on about? My uncles fought in WW2 (RAF) and my aunt was a captain and nurse in the British army, along with many other Irish men and women. Learn some history and endeavour to learn to spell properly in your mother tongue and to improve your grammar....thick cunt.
Oh...and pray do tell, what was 'the reason why England won such a huge empire' ? In your own words, do your best.....
Fioneenacockeen 2 weeks ago
@Fioneenacockeen Then your uncles and aunt were in a minority of Irish, and it wasn't just WW2 in WW1 Irish let a German submarine dock illegallly. As for the empire England knew a strong navy could kick ass and so built up one England also had fabulous generals eg James Wolfe. Also good old Queen Elizabeth was very shrewd and conducted a guerilla warfare against the Spanish with the help of Drake. As for why the Irish were beaten was well they backed the wrong team in
Colton8646 2 weeks ago
@Fioneenacockeen the Civil war and they had no discipline put that against Oliver Cromwell Roundheads probably best army in the world and they had no chance.
Colton8646 2 weeks ago
@Fioneenacockeen Oh and during WW2 silly old Irish tried to stab Britain in the back and failed. Meaning you dirty faced pricks were helping Nazi's. What amuses me is that you think the Nazi's if they won WW2 wouldn't have just shot all the Irish who were hardly racially pure with all their inbreeding.
Colton8646 2 weeks ago
@Colton8646 *yawn* Inbreeding eh? Like your aristocracy?
Fioneenacockeen 1 week ago
@Fioneenacockeen All right fuck of I said that was a joke.
Colton8646 1 week ago
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@Colton8646 "What amuses me is that you think the Nazi's if they won WW2 wouldn't have just shot all the Irish who were hardly racially pure with all their inbreeding."
What a strange assumption to make on your part.Is that what I "think"? Thanks for enlightening me.
"Dirty faced pricks"
Really? is that your honest opinion?
Am I to understand that you hate all Irish people Colton? Are we all of the same opinion politically, morally and socially and of equal character?
Fioneenacockeen 1 week ago
@Fioneenacockeen Sounds like what happened was an awful episode and I'm happy it's beem concluded.
patrickshoes 1 week ago
@patrickshoes I agree. It's a pity that there are still yet such hate-mongers around in this day and age (as I've gathered from some of the comments on this page). You'd think or hope they'd have learnt something from history.
Fioneenacockeen 1 week ago
'Come out ye Black and Tans, come and fight me like a man!!'
Chloe24421996 1 month ago 2
Many of them shamed Britain and most shamed British heros who survived WW1.
mwillis1000 1 month ago
@mwillis1000 Well said
Fioneenacockeen 3 weeks ago
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FIRE IN Britain
unfukkkmee 1 month ago
all you ira bastards go back to ireland leave your mopey that you made in this country behind you
MrRattyy 1 month ago
@MrRattyy is that what you have to offer you thick english cunt fuck off pc warrior
rebelsofireland 1 month ago
@MrRattyy why don't you lot get the fuck out of our country?! And stop being so bloody greedy about money and land and whatever is the reason you cunts won't give us our rightful freedom. For hundreds of years we've had to live under your laws. Just feck off and leave us alone!!
Chloe24421996 1 month ago 3
many Black an tans were Irish let's not forget.
wiltshireripper 2 months ago
@wiltshireripper No most black and tans were Scottish....but of course, its always easier to blame the English isn't it??? >:-(
TalonMercenary 4 weeks ago
@RichardElden Well, RichardElden, you seem to have a strong Loyalist or anti-Irish attitude(it's very annoying, by the way). This disturbs me, as you are looking up pro-Irish freedom/Irish Rebel songs & videos. Why? Apparently to spew your shit...but you're so "smart", "educated", & definitely not "ignorant scum". So tell us, oh mighty British man, tell us: When will the next IMF bailout be? Well, in my mind, your country is a failed Roman Empire. Accept it. When will the next riot be? TAL ;)
slapshot37GNR 2 months ago
I heard if your dick was smaller than 2 inches you were allowed in. make the world a better place, kill a prod
cjwalsh91 2 months ago
There all in hell now! I hope they suffer forever
cjwalsh91 2 months ago
Croke Park was carried out by the Auxillaries backed up by regular British troops not the Tans.
capetown99 2 months ago
@capetown99 Thanks for clearing that up for me always thought it was the Tans regular brits huh !!
vivascargill1 1 month ago
the b&ts scared the fucking life out of the ira or the blokes that ran away i should say.
redbaron5795 2 months ago
UP THE LONG LADDER AND DOWN THE SHORT ROPE!!!!!!
To Hell with King Billy and God Bless the Pope!
AltrusionGrace 2 months ago
@RichardElden ,,,aye....whatever you say yourself.......you galoot.
Gaelforced 2 months ago
2 or 3 machineguns would sort it out.
nolifemerc 2 months ago
@RichardElden I'm really not feeling the love here - you just don't want to let go. You already said it was a gift, I already said it was a loan the UK would make money on. That's part of our problem - you just don't listen.
But ( sob ) for old times sake sweedie, up Roosevelt, saviour of the UK & up the valiant Republic.
Now, before I slam the door, you have to learn to let go? All this anger isn't good for you, you have to start making it work for you. Big mwahs, duckie.
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden I'm leaving this strand now, it doesn't feel like home anymore. Don't try to contact me again or to follow me. I'll always remember you but I have to move on!
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@dermotwalker ..LOL..I see you have met YT's one and only..he does however seem to have added an 'L' into his name. Looks like since he crossed the border into Scotland and bored us all into voting SNP, he has now travelled across the waters. Ah the fond memories come flooding back. How so and so had cancer and how glad he was that that's how they died. Oh but no his hopes didn't stop there. He hoped yet another so and so would die just like his first one, of cancer. Lovely human is Richard :)
paulinesmith44 2 months ago
@paulinesmith44 I have wondered about RichardElden on more than one occasion. Sometimes looks like a straight windup. So daft other times, I can't decide if he's researching a thesis about online communication. His 'So glad about...' remarks are so desperate to provoke, so...needy, they don't look real.
Can't say I'm entirely clear where you're coming from either paulinesmith44. You're not part of the RichardElden project by any chance, are you?
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@dermotwalker I came across richard on a Braveheart site...he was always going on about how he 'so glad about' something or another. Merely saying on those exchanges i had with him, he would often say stuff like" i hope mel gibson dies of cancer just like Patrick Swayzee"....certainly hope i'm not part of his project...hope that makes more sense of my first comment :)
paulinesmith44 2 months ago
K.
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@paulinesmith44 K.
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden Stop it or I'l cry! You're so good to try...but I'd rather remember us the way we were. When we cared what we were arguing about. I'll never forget you RichardElden, as fiercely undaunted an enemy of logic, as ever the Lord put breath in - Don't go changing!
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden I can't help feeling we're just going through the motions though: the thrill is gone. I appreciate your attempt to goad me about the economy and I tried my best to respond in kind but, I dunno. It all feels sorta formulaic now?
I'll always remember you though: your little lists of likes, your peculiar blend of provocation and prickly defensiveness and the arbitrary repeating of points made earlier with no apparent relevance to the matter at hand.
Ride On.
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden Tell me about it.
And if the euro goes tits up & big European banks are hit, "the UK could experience a "substantial contractionary shock," the IMF has already warned. ( Substantial means you'll be in the same boat we are. )
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden Yeah but listing what you're glad about, is far more boring than politics.
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden Like I said, a sock puppet though she is growing in the role.
Getting kinda bored with this now. What you're 'glad' about / like is pretty dull stuff.
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden So she is just a sock puppet?
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden Few, if any, countries 'dealt' with it until the war started, including Britain.
I'm intensely relaxed that you're glad about those thing old son though I've no idea why anyone would be glad or sad about them? But tell me, should the queen have stayed in bed that day or not? Is she just a sock puppet?
And do you know how much the Irish did to help the Allies win?
Up The Republic!
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden he could have tried
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhgfdse 2 months ago
@RichardElden ha sure the brits rid the world of evil :) hahaha u stupid fucking hun stay in your own country
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhgfdse 2 months ago
@RichardElden No, he wouldn't. The main invasion force would been the far greater danger.
Roosevelt was a towering genius who is revered for his successful waging of the war against totalitarianism. The little guy has a great place too but it's firmly in his shadow.
Of course I do. Do you know how much the Irish did to help the allies win? A great deal more than the greasy little sectarian state in the north.
Love what makes you 'glad'. Really makes you look bright. :))))
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden I really don't think he'd have had us on his mind, if the Germans were invading??
Roosevelt, a GIANT of a man. The man who wrote all the cheques to keep the crumbling British Empire afloat during and esp after, the war. Get over it. The UK is just one vast heritage site now ( a very good one, mind you ).
Up the Republic!
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden
So to sum it up, since I am a student of International Relations, I know what I am talking about therefore I am right and you do not appear to be an intelligent individual, but more of a pathetic human being who needs to comment on Irish articles to provoke a reaction in order to feel fulfilled, which I assume means that you have no life whatsoever, I suggest you get one.
SolitudeNaSkellig 2 months ago
@RichardElden
They have continued to exchange information with our security authorities regarding all aliens (including Germans) in Southern Ireland.They have (within the last few days) agreed to our establishing a Radar station in Southern Ireland for use against the latest form of submarine activity.
SolitudeNaSkellig 2 months ago
@RichardElden Recently, in connection with the establishment of prisoner of war camps in Northern Ireland, they have agreed to return or at least intern any German prisoners who may escape from Northern Ireland across the border to Southern Ireland.They have throughout offered no objection to the departure from Southern Ireland of persons wishing to serve in the United Kingdom Forces nor to the journey on leave of such persons to and from Southern Ireland (in plain clothes).
SolitudeNaSkellig 2 months ago
@RichardElden They arranged for staff talks on the question of co-operation against a possible German invasion of Southern Ireland, and close contact has since been maintained between the respective military authorities.
They continue to intern all German fighting personnel reaching Southern Ireland. On the other hand, though after protracted negotiations, Allied service personnel are now allowed to depart freely and full assistance is given in recovering damaged aircraft.
SolitudeNaSkellig 2 months ago
@RichardElden They have agreed to the use by our ships and aircraft of two wireless direction-finding stations at Malin Head.
They have supplied particulars of German crashed aircraft and personnel crashed or washed ashore or arrested on land.
SolitudeNaSkellig 2 months ago
@RichardElden They arranged for the broadening of reports by their Air observation Corps of aircraft sighted over or approaching Southern Irish territory. (This does not include our aircraft using the corridor referred to in (b) above.)They arranged for the extinction of trade and business lighting in coastal towns where such lighting was alleged to afford a useful landmark for German aircraft. They have continued to supply us with meteorological reports.
SolitudeNaSkellig 2 months ago
@RichardElden They have agreed to use by our aircraft based on Lough Erne of a corridor over Southern Irish territory and territorial waters for the purpose of flying out to the Atlantic.
They have arranged for the immediate transmission to the United Kingdom Representative’s Office in Dublin of reports of submarine activity received from their coast watching service.
SolitudeNaSkellig 2 months ago
@RichardElden
Just shows hows how ignorant and misinformed you are,the British War Cabinet has a report which detailed; They agreed to our use of Lough Foyle for naval and air purposes. The ownership of the Lough is disputed, but the Southern Irish authorities are tacitly not pressing their claim in present conditions and are also ignoring any flying by our aircraft over the Donegal shore of the Lough, which is necessary in certain wind conditions to enable flying boats to take off the Lough.
SolitudeNaSkellig 2 months ago
@RichardElden Roosevelt, even more than Churchill, always told people what they wanted to hear but he was very clear about Ireland - it would cost him too much at home.
In the event of a German invasion, the US would have had to invade Britain before France.
Up the Republic of Ireland!
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden You have to admire the Queen for finally recognising the truth about those who fought the crown. Not like her mother, the mad old bitch who never understood the huge debt Britain owed the Republic for all the help she gave her old enemy in her hour of need. Up The Republic!
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden He bent the knee, every time he met Roosevelt - that's a metaphor btw, I presumed you knew that. If Roosevelt wanted Churchill to paint his arse green, white & blue and sing 'Danny Boy' in the White House Garden, he'd have done it gladly. The UK was done for without the might of American production & wealth.
So what, if he'd done it, it would have been an entirely empty gesture but now that she's done it, every good loyalist must accept his Queen's actions.
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden It's a matter of record that he wanted the ports. He threatened and raged about them, sent ambassadors to plead - and his papers prove it. He needed, he knelt ( before Roosevelt ) and was told No.
What about the queen, is she a sock puppet or was she wrong to honour those who fought the crown in Ireland? Would she bow before the Japanese shrines to convicted war criminals too, if asked?
dermotwalker 2 months ago
The B&T's were a motley crew or mercenaries,sent to to the dirty work and quell rebellion in Ireland. The truth is that the Government cared less if that desperate policy worked or not, the same British Government had slaughtered the cream of it's own country in a pointless war with Germany . The British Empire was beginning to unfold, like all Empires it existed on the oppression and exploitation of poor people, including it's own.
Gaelforced 2 months ago
@Gaelforced True
Fioneenacockeen 3 weeks ago
@RichardElden When he wanted to invade, Roosevelt stopped him. It was only later the new tech made it unnecessary. So, when he did need the ports, his real boss, prompted by the voting power of all the descendants of the famine emigrants that Britain ignored the prev century, said no. In other words, history came back to bite Churchill and Britain in the ass.
BTW, the Republic played a vital role - far more vital than the north did - in the Allied victory. We saved your asses, niggers.
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden You're a joke why do you keep posting on our Irish heritage videos, you're whats wrong with this world! If you think these black and tans were heroes your an idiot they were bastards! The americans got rid of their english convicts, and so did the republic! Absolute criminals!
Debz1990 2 months ago
@RichardElden The Tans were mad. Shell shocked vets mostly but incl some specially released criminally insane convicts, among them.
Their time in Ireland didn't do most of them any good, wasn't a fit reward for what the suffered during the war and drove quite a few mad.
Like Grenadier Guardsman Daniel Cook, recently dismissed from the British army after stabbing a 10-year-old Afghan boy in his kidneys with a bayonet for no reason.
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden We all know he drew up the plan but Roosevelt wouldn't let him because of all the Irish voters in America. Who wouldn't have been there but for the famine. The soviets were great but couldn't have fought without all the equipment sent to them by the US, so the US still come out on top.
And the UVF were always bit players - bit like those American survivalist cults that live in compounds and think they're armies. Poor deluded wannabes.
dermotwalker 2 months ago
a lot off the tans came out of bar-l prison glasgow some were in for rape+ murder .and were given a pardon off freedom if they would go to erin to cause havoc.+be paid plus keep the plunder....
kilfinan1 2 months ago
@RichardElden The UVF lost Britain the south btw, their only achievement.
Why is the queen so praised, if she has no responsibility for her actions? Her marvellous 'stewardship,' her 'great political brain' etc, etc, are always cited as some of her many talents. But she can't be praised for anything if she can't decide anything.
And I'm sure she'd have been 'ill' that day, if it really suited her. So, call it kiddo, was SHE wrong not to stay in bed that day??
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden The Americans saved your hides in both wars, sonny. And the battle of britain was a defensive one. Without American might, you'd probly still have a german monarch but it would be from a different branch of the family.
Churchill was always down on one knee before Roosevelt and he made clear he wouldn't allow him invade because of the all the Irish votes it would have cost him. That's real power and and real independence. The UK is to the US, as Ireland is to the UK!
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@dermotwalker poor Elden is most likely from the british aristocracy and that is the reason for his stupidity.
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhgfdse 2 months ago
@hhhhhhhhhhhhhhgfdse Hmm. Not entirely convinced. Hasn't really got the vocab for a former inmate of even the most minor public school, never mind the posh-gosh. Could be inbred though...
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden You're NEARLY there, think a little bit harder. Was SHE wrong? Not was 'it' wrong? Yes or no. I'll explain the difference to you, when you've answered the question.
BTW, you wouldn't have any independence if the Americans hadn't bailed you out TWICE, after the Germans kicked your asses TWICE when you came over to the continent. Otherwise, you'd all have been like the Channel Islands - even the British bobbies collaborated!
UVF guns were for treason.
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden As I explained earlier, I didn't ask you if she could act independently, I asked you if she was wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence? ( You're right, it wasn't full independence but that's beside the point - was she wrong?? )
Bought them from your German King's German cousin, so they could stage a coup against 'their' king.
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden If you can handle the question about her maj, then we progress on to the Churchill one until you've criticised every national front member's holy trinity: Thatcher, the Queen and Churchill.
Did you like the dig about the loyal sons of Ulster importing arms from the Kaiser while their King was at war with Germany? Never mind, as the Kaiser said at the outbreak of hostilities, 'Cousin George would never have declared war, if grandma ( Victoria) was alive!'
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden Jesus, at times like this I envy Pavlov, at least he was working with something trainable.
The 'Churchill one' I'm only dieing to ask you fido, as I've patiently explained more than once, comes after you earn your dog biscuit by first answering the question currently stumping your poor mutt's arse of a mind: Was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence? Are you going to criticize the Queen too?
dermotwalker 2 months ago
I believe the song is "Come Out Ye Black And Tans" not "Rifles Or The I.R.A."
SusMerkava 2 months ago
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@RichardElden Was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence? Are you going to criticize the Queen too? :)))))))))
Can you answer that before you go back to the same old guff about 'unification,' the imf, bobby sands, the black n tans, 9/11 or lockerbie??? Can ya Einstein? It's a very simple question...
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden
Hey Dick (I can call u Dick yes?)
I was very interested in ur worldly opinon about the state of Irish affairs and the like.
Seems u have vast experience with the us lot,the unwashed rabble that we are.
Most unbecoming I know but alas we cant all be lucky enough to have blue blood and the glorious British Monarchy as 'the' beam of light & the standard to live by (sigh if only)
Theres just soo much we can learn from u!
C'mon back for a laugh,we miss u.
sexy
xx
llokkee 2 months ago
BTW, my 'Brits 9/11' posting IS a parody of RichardElden's frequent comment that he's 'So glad about all the Americans killed in the 9/11 attacks and the Lockerbie bombing'. Just in case anyone ( normal ) thinks I was serious?
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@dermotwalker
Haha no I get ya friend,and thats the thing,any rational person would understand that these kind of sentiments are usually found in the mind of a very troubled soul like our (now elusive) friend Mr Elden.
Is it possible he may not take the bait?
Shame really,I do find these types most amusing.
Seems like we'll have to wait for another little fishy to swim by ;-)
llokkee 2 months ago
@llokkee @RichardElden
Ah no, he'll be back eventually. In his own mind, he's stirring the pot but it looks a lot like he's getting his 'argument's off somebody else, hence the delay when you ask what's a ( for him ) difficult question that any child could answer without delay. My money's on some more guff about IMF bailouts because he doesn't have the gears upstairs for any kind of fluid game.
Still hasn't answered the one about the queen and i'm dieing to give him my churchill one!
dermotwalker 2 months ago
@RichardElden
Richard son,everyone here knows ur an idiot but at the very least u can tell urself - its not ur fault.
ok
Its not ur fault..
Mummy and daddy made a little fuckup,thats all.
llokkee 3 months ago
@RichardElden Sometimes I get the feeling I'm the only one who WANTS RichardElden to come back!
Come on folks - what would we do without history's answer to Alan Partridge.
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@dermotwalker
No,no - I want it too.
Tiz entertaining to read whilst eating my breakfast ;-)
C'mon dick,give us all a good laugh,take the bull by the horns and engage.
Tuning in for the next exciting episode...
llokkee 3 months ago
@llokkee We could start an Eldenism contest: think up crazed one liners that don't really make sense even on their own terms.
Eg. @RichardEleden Germany will always beat Britain, no matter how many times America saves her hide - two world wars later, we're still running Europe!
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@llokkee
Or, @RichardElden I'm so glad about the 67 Brits who died on 9/11.
dermotwalker 3 months ago
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@RichardElden Was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence? Are you going to criticize the Queen too? :)))))
Let's be having your next frightened, muddled contribution Ritchie baby!
dermotwalker 3 months ago
If the brits had attempted to do this in America.....we would be at war. We only worry about riaa and mpaa corporate encroachment.
bweber2k 3 months ago
post wwi assins hired by the british gov to get the killer off their necks....damn...the great Parnell...remembered after these decades....I will look for gps units under my dog...my car is unaccessable to the corporate goves.
bweber2k 3 months ago
@RichardElden PS. More to the point, what are you jeering about? 7bn sterling is 300 for every household in Britain. It would pay for all the welfare cuts made in the UK. If anything, people should be laughing at you.
In future, I want you think about the question before you try to answer? This confused, wobbling all over the place is making you look silly. And by definition, that kinda makes me look bad for making fun of an idiot.
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@RichardElden Been looking over your other homework too squire and it's clear you're falling behind in economics too. Ireland didn't get a 'huge bailout' from the UK, it got a 7bn sterling loan which will be repaid at a higher rate than the money was borrowed at. It's not said ( out loud ) in the UK but the rationale was based on the need to protect the trade the UK does with Ireland. 10% of British exports come here.
dermotwalker 3 months ago
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@RichardElden That's the answer to an entirely different question and I'll point out what's wrong with it later. ( I don't wanna overload a man who takes six entire days to come back with a weak evasion like that ).
So, here we go again! Was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence? Are you going to criticize the Queen too?
( Apologies to all the other contributors but the class can only progress at the pace of the thickest student. )
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@RichardElden ha i knew you would reply dickhead i have read your other replies, what a load of bol-x you do talk lol
afertyus1000 3 months ago
@afertyus1000 DON'T REPLY TO HIS NEXT COMMENT. I did before, & I noticed how much of an uneducated, ignorant, single-minded cunt he his. You'll beat him in an argument, but all he'll do is say "When's the next IMF bailout?" So please take this advice, mate TAL;
@RichardElden Nobody will ever know the answer to that question, you dumb cunt. Maybe it will be in a few years, but "Great" Britain will be the ones being bailed-out by the I.M.F. You live in front of a computer...just STOP w/ it
slapshot37GNR 3 months ago
@slapshot37GNR Yeah thanks i won't waste my time with little internet warriors hiding behind their screen spouting shit
afertyus1000 3 months ago
@RichardElden
NEWSFLASH FOR RICHARDELDEN. People like myself didn't really regard Ireland as truly independent BEFORE the bailout, so we certainly don't now.
But back to the point matey. Was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence? Are you going to criticize the Queen too? Six days now and still, poor RichardElden can’t answer a simple question about HRH - what sort of a British subject ARE you?? :))))))))))))))))))))))
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@RichardElden Yeah, don't come round here no more. Got lots more embarrassing questions for you to run from! ( When y'ever get round to answering the last one... )
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@dermotwalker
hehe,well done. Dont ya just love slamming bigots with rational arguments.
Hope he replies,I was enjoying that
;-)
llokkee 3 months ago
@llokkee Thank you Sir. I was too.
dermotwalker 3 months ago
YES the black and tans were worthless shit who could never face the Ra on equal terms they were highly paid blood money mercenaries who had no honour unlike the irish heroes
afertyus1000 3 months ago
@RichardElden
Dermotwalker 1 - 0 RichardElden. :D
dermotwalker 3 months ago
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@RichardElden Was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence?? Are you going to criticize the Queen too? 2 days and counting. Has RichardElden 'left the building'? :))))))))))))))))))))))
dermotwalker 3 months ago
My Grandpa was a Black and Tan for a while. Not something I am hugely proud of.
chanctonbury63 3 months ago
@chanctonbury63 At least he wasn't a wolfe tone! :)
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@dermotwalker Whats that??
chanctonbury63 3 months ago
@chanctonbury63 Yeah, read back if ya wanna know?
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@dermotwalker Just realised I mistook you for a different poster. I was having a laugh about how awful the wolfe tones - who sing the song 'come out ye black and tans' - are.
dermotwalker 3 months ago
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@RichardElden Are those things meant to annoy me? :) Too right Germany's set our budget and we've lost the teensy, weensy bit of cod independence we had.
But the question you're dodging is, was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence?? Are you going to criticize the Queen too?
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@dermotwalker Either you're just a mouth who can give it but can't take it or you're having to phone a friend because you don't know the answer. Neither makes you look very bright...
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@dermotwalker
Dermotwalker 1 - 0 RichardElden. :D
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@RichardElden Cat got yer tongue there, buddy? Questions from 'the real world' getting ya down??
dermotwalker 3 months ago
What a bullshit song - the IRA's 'pitched battles' only constituted 20% of their causalities; the rest were point blank executions. 'Come out ye black and tans and fight me like a man'.... or not unless you want to get blown away by a black and tans rifle, better to wait until night and execute him at point blank range,
CharlesDilkes 3 months ago
@RichardElden Now, now! Throwing your rattle outta the pram, isn't going to change anything. And nobody likes a sore loser.
Here's one for you, was the Queen wrong to honour those who fought the crown for Ireland's independence?? Are you going to criticize the Queen too? :))))))))))))))))))))))
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@RichardElden Got some sympathy for your point of view on the Yes but...gotta say she was spot on to fear the impact of what Sands bequeathed to Northern Ireland when he broke and remoulded electoral politics in the north, in the way that most of the elder statesmen of the Tory party I've spoken to ( who certainly don't admire him ) reluctantly concede. Hate him and them, all you like but there it is. And it don't matter how often ya stamp yer foot, there it stays.
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@RichardElden That's not only possible, it's highly likely but you don't seem to be able to answer the question I keep putting to you, are you saying Maggie is wrong?
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@RichardElden If you live in Northern Ireland, your improved quality of life is part of his legacy. I ask again, are you saying Maggie is wrong?
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@RichardElden I thought it was his legacy we were debating? Who cares about his 'worth'!
dermotwalker 3 months ago
@RichardElden Case of the beer goggles on there, I reckon. Why didn't the loyalist side sign up for it in '73 then? It would have meant 30 years of peaceful coexistence inside the UK. And why did they so badly want their own parliament back, after it was abolished?
Fact of the matter is, power sharing means equality and sinn fein which was what maggie feared Sands had set in motion with his death. She was right.
dermotwalker 3 months ago