I always thought they should have had Ric Flair create a new 4 horsemen to fight the NWO. They could have made the 4, Ric Flair, Sting, DDP, and Roddy Piper.
Lots of good comments here. I'd have to say after the 'Fingerpoke' is when I kinda fell off the wagon. Nothing made sense anymore. You could tell WCW was just winging it as they went along because they had nothing anymore. I watched for a few more months or so and I just gave up.
Dumbest story ever, I'm sorry. It's been said before, I'm sure, but Luger and Sting joining an NWO group after spending the better part of two years fighting against them was beyond ridiculous. And did they ever give a reason why? Probably not. This was WCW at the time, unfortunately.
The problem with WCW was they couldn't finish angles and build into new ones. The nWo was a great angle, but went on way too long. Goldberg was over huge (it's true, haters) but people were bored of him by October of '98, and I firmly believe DDP (also hugely over) should have been given the belt at Halloween Havoc. The Wolfpac breathed new life into the nWo, and at the time the Wolfpac was crazy over, too, but it ended in the finger poke of doom, the moment I believe truly killed WCW, imo.
@RavenoftheBlack No one moment killed WCW. WCW died because AOL and Time Warner didn't want wrestling. But you're right, the NWO wore itself out by 98. Bischoff didn't have anything after that.
@TheSammyreynolds Oh, I totally agree that it was a long, slow death. But to me, personally, the "fingerpoke of doom" was the moment that WCW fully and permanently betrayed their fans' trust by completely throwing away almost a year's worth of storyline and turning the Wolfpac (still popular in the closing days of 1998) into little more than an extended "dream sequence," even though it made no sense to do so. That being said, though, the mistakes made by WCW could fill a book (and they have.)
well, WCW's bad storylines 'only' lead to low ratings compared to the WWF of the attitude era, but that had nothing to do with the company being sold, which was only a corporate thing concerning with the merging of Turner's corporation.
Anyway, I 100% agree that the nWo stuff went far too further and the Wolfpac was lame. Best thing for WCW would have been Sting CLEARLY defeating Hogan at Starrcade '97 and killing once and for all nWo, so that WCW could have come then with something new
I'll admit, I didn't really pay much attention to WCW growing up, because it was just something to watch until RAW came on, but I would gladly take the NWO or almost anything WCW came up with over Super Cena and Super Orton.
I sure was glad when this was over, at this point whoever was responsible had driven this whole NWO thing right into the dirt . I liked The Macho Man and Sting but those others like Nashus and Scotch AlcaHallic not so much .
the formation of the nWo Wolfpac was the first mistake that led to the death of wcw. Nash should have quit the nWo and join forces with Bret Hart to kill the black&white.
@rohgenextfan WCW was kill the WWF in rating bruh. They (wwf) almost went under. When Ted Turnner sold the superstation Warner Bros. didn't want a wrestling program. That's way WCW went under. Look at monday night wars from wwe video.
@MrFilmMakerNumber2 At the end of the Monday Night Wars, WWF was burying WCW with 6.0-7.0s in the ratings. WCW was floundering around TNA numbers with 1.0-2.0s. If WCW was actually drawing instead of bleeding money, WB would have kept it because you can't argue with money.
many reasons why WCW died: 1. Overuse of the NWO 2. Fingerpoke title change 3. David Arquette as champion 4. Goldberg winning the title on Nitro when it should've been saved for a PPV 5. Vince Russo 6. Never building new stars 7. The older wrestlers refusing to step out of the spotlight 8. Stone Cold, Mick Foley, Big Show, chris Jericho and the radicalz joining the WWF 9. Nash as head booker, where he also ended Goldberg's streak 10. Bischoff only focusing on the here and now
While all this was going on i think Scott Hall should of gone with the "Lone Wolf" gimmick at least for a lil while. Sigh but we all know the problems he was having so who knows if he was up for it at the time =/
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@angelus4282 : The reason why it failed, was the addition of konnan. Anytime you incorporate nasty foul beaners in something, it turns into a fail. Just look at the currant WWE. They suck right now, because of garbage like del rio, mysterio, sin cara, and that hunico beaner.
@greatvaluepoop It failed because they added too many people to the nWo, pushed the storyline too much, and ran it for too long.
And the current (spelled with an "e" when talking about things ongoing or in the present, for future reference) WWE has been in a popular and financial decline for years, long before Del Rio, Sin Cara or Hunico got there. To say that they are the cause is laughable.
can we please get wrstlinfg back 2 the way it was in 1994-1999 this shit i watched 2 nite on spike tna is so lame and a disgrace the wwe is so bad i dont want 2 see a pale irish guy samus please get some real talent, cena is small weak and lame .. please get better wrestlers 2 tna and wwe, also wwe u ruined ecw what the hell were u doing????????????????????????????????????????????
@MalnourishedGoat U have a good point on some of those, but the Macho Man actually fit right in because he did team up with Hogan earlier in his career. Luger and Sting should have stayed out of the nWo and Bret Hart should've just feuded with someone in the nWo
Eh, not many people acknowledge the original Wolfpac, though those three alone were cooler than any other version of the nWo. The "Wolfpac" that most people remember, and the only one WCW truly acknowledged as it's own seperate group was in this video.... With a ruined Sting character and fucking Konnan? Sigh...
@oshea900 WWE should be like old times, since that is when it was more popular and made more money. Now they have only cheaper talent that hardly wrestles. Raw is 90% talking and BS now, there is actually very little wrestling going on.
@drownoble The WWE is just as popular and making more money now than at any other time. Also Raw is averaging about the same amount of actual wrestling now, compared to any other time in the last 15 years, which is about 45-50 minutes.
@oshea900 Actually no it isn't. They had to switch to cheaper cable channels and can't afford to hire big name talent. In the late 90's there would be several matches in Raw, today it's sometimes almost an hour before an actual wrestling match starts. It's still making money but not nearly as much as 10 years ago.
@drownoble Both USA Network and Sci Fi are owned by NBCUniversal. They already have the big talent, so they can obviously afford them. Haven't seen how well the CM Punk/Kevin Nash/HHH feud is going right now, either?
On revenue/profit. Here is just one comparison 1999-2000: $373,100,000/$68,937,000 and 2010: $477,700,000/$53,300,000. I can get numbers for the last 15 years if you'd like.
As for saying it's sometimes an hour before the first match, maybe it is, but that's the same as 1999.
@oshea900 HHH is Vince' son-in-law, doubtful he'd get "fired". Q2 2011 financials were net income $14.3 mil or $0.19 per share. Not exactly the $477 mil you quoted. WWE has been branching away from actual wrestling for years, this is why we see more video games and WWE funded movies (The Marine for example).
@drownoble. I was saying that in terms of quality. It's a good feud going on in terms of on-screen, but you mustn't be watching. The first number is revenue NOT profit. So far, the number you quoted, by the end of the year, will infact be around average or around $50 Million. It seems you've only listed the numbers for 3 months also, not an entire year. My numbers are April 1 - March 31.
I commend Vince on giving these other ventures a go to expand his product. Good on him.
@oshea900 Vince pretty much had to branch out as WWE by itself wasn't turning out the profits it used to. I'll admit some of the movies are decent, but the 2nd W is supposed to stand for "wrestling" which there is very little of. TNA pretty much formed for wrestlers that actually wanted to wrestle OR didn't want to work for Vince. Sting was the best example of a wrestler who refused to come to WWE.
@drownoble. That's false. Vince has always wanted to branch out. In the early 90's he had the failed WBF, and in the early 2000's, he had the failed XFL. Also in the early 2000's he had WWF New York/The World, which was also turning out a loss.
Also people seem to think that because there is lack of swearing and innuendo, that makes for a shit product, which is wrong. The WWE still has the same amount of wrestling as 10 years ago. Also, what would you rather? ...
@oshea900 ... A bikini contest, as what it was 10 years ago, or a 5-8 minute match? The same people that complained about a bikini contest, are now complaining about divas matches. And TNA, what do they average in the ratings in the US? A 1.0 -1.2?
People know what they want to watch, and it ain't TNA.
@oshea900 What is false? There are many wrestlers that refuse to work for Vince. That is well documented, Sting being the most well-known among them. There is less wrestling now than there was 10 years ago, just watch old Raw episodes and you'll see. WWE as a whole is making money as Vince has had to branch out. The wrestling part, just isn't turning out the dollars like it used to.
@drownoble. You saying that the WWE are only now branching out is false. And I don't care who doesn't want to work for Vince. For every one that doesn't, there are 10 who do. And I have every single Raw and Smackdown episode, and as a whole, there is just as much now as there was 10 years ago. Like I said averaging about 45-50 minutes per show. The WWE now just has no shitty chair shots or weapon use like it did back then, so people think the quality of the match is less, which it isn't.
@oshea900 Exactly, during the attitude era most of the wrestlers and matches were terrible. The only things that were better were the characters and the promos.
The cancer was NWO 2000 instead of new stable of villians the band comes back together-FAIL, as if people really bought into Bret Hart, and Stevie Ray being members of the New World Order.
Why did WCW die? Because the NWO was a cancer. It got so powerful that the NWO took over wcw and that what it was all about. When they took away the nwo...there was nothing left.
nWo was crap and wolfpac was crap too. Instead of teaming nash and hall together with younger guys like jericho, booker, benoit etc. they put on a group with luger and sting who didnt fit in especially luger. Macho man and Henning were at least ok but Konnan? He was young but he was a boring guy.
@Friday13thTaurus Yes but still, the matter of fact is true life. Time Warner DID buy out Turner and took over WCW and everything Ted owned. WCW was left as they said the bastard son nobody wanted. T.W in time did want to get rid of wrestling, even Eric admitted to it. Either way its been 10 years since WCW died and now those people who celebrated that buy out are probably saying " We need WCW back"
@Friday13thTaurus Nick knows what he is talking about. If you watch The Rise and Fall of WCW it clearly tells u that TED TURNER Merged with Time Warner, and in doing so, Ted Lost complete control of WCW. T.W did not want wrestling on any of their new channels {TBS and TNT} so THEY called Vince and offered WCW to him. Last I read, Vince got WCW for 4.5 Million. WCW was not worth that. It was worth a HELL a lot more but at the end T.W and Vince made a deal. T.W got rid of WCW and so did Vince
Is there a DVD or video (released by either WWE or WCW) that covers the nWo split? I know the "Back in Black" DVD doesn't talk about the split, and I can't find any info about it. PLEASE message me on youtube if you know of a disc/video that tells the history of nWo black & white vs. nWo wolfpac.
Where is this video from? ...is it from WWE 24/7 (or whatever), or from a home video?
To Tell The Truth WCW Could've Made More Money If They Booked Hogan Vs Bret Hart But He Was Bury And Out Of Place Cuz Of Hogan's Ego But If Bischoff Was A True He Would've Made It Happened Instead Of Having His Head Up Hogans Ass!!!
@DreDiddy83 Plus I think Goldberg put Hart on the shelf, if I remember, because they rushed him and he wasn't properly trained. I remember reading or watching something where many WCW wrestlers hated being in the ring with Goldberg because he was far from polished.
@PRWfoot If I recall, the match you're thinking of was at a PPV where The Ultimate Warrior was supposed to come out of a trap door during the main event or possibly after. From what I remember hearing, Goldberg speared Bret onto that door.
time warner aol killed wcw nwo made it awesome and made it suck later having every fucking top guy in the nwo at one point or another is like having stone cold the rock undertaker and mankind in d-x
@Friday13thTaurus they could've avoided their parent company merging with AOL? Or avoided Jamie Kellner being promoted to CEO of TBS stations & making the decision to not air wrestling on TNT/TBS anymore? Bischoff had plans 2 buy WCW but what could he do with it, without a TV deal? Sell DVDs?
I agree WCW did start to suck in mid 99, & only got worse. But if Bischoff bought them - he wouldve had creative control & a WCW Attitude probably wouldve worked.
@nicknitro6969 I don't think Kellner would have been as quick to decide to stop airing WCW if they were making the ratings and money that they were in 1997/98. If they were still making that kind of money when Kellner took over he would've been a fool to stop showing WCW because they were a huge profit.
I also highly doubt Bischoff would have made the company successful again either. He tried in mid 1999 and mid 2000 and look what happened there (granted in 2000 he was paired with Russo).
@nicknitro6969 NWO Got boring... It was the same shit week in and week out, they couldn't push new talent and relied on old guys they snag from WWE. Goldberg was their best push, and even they made him a joke. They brought the horsemen back, and even made them a joke. WcW lost the monday night wars cause they shot themselves in the foot. Sure NWO is the greatest group of all time, but they should have taken notes from Degeneration X.
@nicknitro6969 His original point stands. The creative aspect of WCW took a nosedive and every good angle that the organization had going was squandered. The WCW was entirely distinct from the Attitude Era bullshit of the WWF, it was much more real and personal and less soap opera-esque. Whoever was writing the scripts obviously took a vacation.
@nicknitro6969 garenteed money to wrestlers is what killed WCW....what was Bret Hart signed for? 3 Million Dollars a year? So he made 9 million dollars during his three years with WCW. It wasn't just the shitty storylines, poor booking, AOL and all in all terrible backstage moral that killed WCW. It was them just throwing money around like it was nothing because of big ted turner.
@nicknitro6969 Wow I was just thinking of that too if there was any way Eric Bischoff could keep WCW going.I wish he could but I dont think it got worse in 1999,it got worse in 2000 because that's when Vince Russo came in
@rohgenextfan true though WCW had better wrestlers WWF was always smarter then them when it came to knowing when to end a heel faction and not drawing out a storyline to long. WCW was living off that NWO shit for to long McMahon knew that that's why he ditch the NWO thing after taking over
@rohgenextfan Thats just your opinion. But the truth his it takes a whole team of management to make the company die. Vince Russo was out of it when it started to fall down and so was Bishoff.
@rohgenextfan It also had a lot to do with Stone Cold over in WWF because he did shit that no one ever did like drink beer, flip ppl off, stun everyone including Vince so that also had a lot to do with it. I agree with u though as well
@rohgenextfan not just the nWo, there was also the lWo,. agreed though nWo storyline was overdone too much, when everyone on the roster was in one or the other it was just retarded,. Least in the case of DX they just kept it at 5 members and b4 it ran it's course they broke up went there seperate ways.
@Spamazoid sorry i meant 6 members of DX. though that was short lived given HBK left leaving just the five with Triple H in charge and only at the end Kane sorta joined.
i miss storylines like this. i can c tna winding up like this though. Storyline wise. I hope it does. Excluding vince russo and his viagra on a pole matches with david arquette as champ....
Sting and Luger joining anything nWo related seemed to be completely out of place. I was always down with nWo "Hollywood". I didn't become a bandwagon-er.
@warpath9000 He was not in it for long. If I remember right, he was in it for a little while and went on hiatus. Curt Henning was also in it for a little while but joined the black and white.
@Spengler56 Yeah that's true. I actually own some recorded tapes of wcw from back when the wolfpack started. I really loved the parts when the two nwo factions brawled. For the short time Macho man was part of the group,he contributed a great deal to the wolfpack from the gang fights to his tagmatch against hogan and bret hart at the great amarican bash. Curt was awesome as well, but his time in wolfpack was short and all I can remember from him was coming out for promos and turning on konnan
@warpath9000 Macho Man had been working with a knee injury for months & left to have knee surgery after first Nitro after Great American Bash 1998. It was a severe injury aswell & he did not return until 10 months later.
@nWoWolfpacTV Yeah I heard about that too bud. I also heard a rumor that he was also having a contract dispute with wcw at that time too, but I'm not 100% sure about that
@warpath9000 That is true however it was a year later in 1999 that he had contract dispute after Road Wild. He only made 2 more appearences after that on Nitro on October 25th for a promo & on last day of his contract he had house show match against Sid Vicious on 14th January 2000 replacing the injured Bret Hart (from concussion injury he suffered at hands of Goldberg forcing him to retire). He made one last appearnce on Thunder before Slamboree 2000 as favor to Bischoff.
@Kingjd87 Only it worked.....they made $50 million profit in 1998 & traded ratings victories throughout year with WWF even with Stone Cold on fire. Only after they ended the "bloods and crips type shit with a bunch of middle aged white dudes" did WCW tank & that is reflected in the ratings & PPV buyrates.
As good a talent as Nash was/is, he always seemed to look like just a regular guy in either WCW or TNA. At least when he was in his Diesel persona in WWF/E, he looked like a star.
I always thought they should have had Ric Flair create a new 4 horsemen to fight the NWO. They could have made the 4, Ric Flair, Sting, DDP, and Roddy Piper.
beastiejam1973 1 day ago
Lots of good comments here. I'd have to say after the 'Fingerpoke' is when I kinda fell off the wagon. Nothing made sense anymore. You could tell WCW was just winging it as they went along because they had nothing anymore. I watched for a few more months or so and I just gave up.
Doronc82 1 day ago
Dumbest story ever, I'm sorry. It's been said before, I'm sure, but Luger and Sting joining an NWO group after spending the better part of two years fighting against them was beyond ridiculous. And did they ever give a reason why? Probably not. This was WCW at the time, unfortunately.
MrMetalJesus 2 days ago
Hogan ruined that powerbomb by underselling it... it could have been so epic
DeluxeWarPlaya 3 days ago
The problem with WCW was they couldn't finish angles and build into new ones. The nWo was a great angle, but went on way too long. Goldberg was over huge (it's true, haters) but people were bored of him by October of '98, and I firmly believe DDP (also hugely over) should have been given the belt at Halloween Havoc. The Wolfpac breathed new life into the nWo, and at the time the Wolfpac was crazy over, too, but it ended in the finger poke of doom, the moment I believe truly killed WCW, imo.
RavenoftheBlack 6 days ago
@RavenoftheBlack No one moment killed WCW. WCW died because AOL and Time Warner didn't want wrestling. But you're right, the NWO wore itself out by 98. Bischoff didn't have anything after that.
TheSammyreynolds 5 days ago
@TheSammyreynolds Oh, I totally agree that it was a long, slow death. But to me, personally, the "fingerpoke of doom" was the moment that WCW fully and permanently betrayed their fans' trust by completely throwing away almost a year's worth of storyline and turning the Wolfpac (still popular in the closing days of 1998) into little more than an extended "dream sequence," even though it made no sense to do so. That being said, though, the mistakes made by WCW could fill a book (and they have.)
RavenoftheBlack 4 days ago
well, WCW's bad storylines 'only' lead to low ratings compared to the WWF of the attitude era, but that had nothing to do with the company being sold, which was only a corporate thing concerning with the merging of Turner's corporation.
Anyway, I 100% agree that the nWo stuff went far too further and the Wolfpac was lame. Best thing for WCW would have been Sting CLEARLY defeating Hogan at Starrcade '97 and killing once and for all nWo, so that WCW could have come then with something new
ROMANTIKILLER2 1 week ago
when wrestling was amazing. \m/
Alhambrattp 1 week ago
what dvd is this from?
sycomac 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
wolfpack all day!! howwwwlllllll!!!! i loved wolfpack sting!
gannon1op 1 week ago
nWo is just 2 sweeeet.
AmericanRattlesnake 1 week ago
Do you have a skype?
OWN3DH34D5H0TZ 1 week ago
Hulk Hogan
Yellow Mustache
Yellow Hair
Black Beard
Seems legit
beLIEveraliveMJ 1 week ago
Hogan baldspot with hair around it grosses me the fuck out
MrMansontaco 1 week ago
Is this from the best of Nitro?
HeavyArmsO5 2 weeks ago
imagine heel Austin & heel Hogan as a tag-team!!
xXxjAmEsLxXx 2 weeks ago 2
The Wolfpac was LAME
AICJDR 2 weeks ago
@AICJDR Damn straight, the Wolfpac sucked!
mdjcsmith 2 weeks ago
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Benz5469 2 weeks ago
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Benz5469 2 weeks ago
I'll admit, I didn't really pay much attention to WCW growing up, because it was just something to watch until RAW came on, but I would gladly take the NWO or almost anything WCW came up with over Super Cena and Super Orton.
Benz5469 2 weeks ago 2
Oh Hell Yeah!
Aj007cool 2 weeks ago
I sure was glad when this was over, at this point whoever was responsible had driven this whole NWO thing right into the dirt . I liked The Macho Man and Sting but those others like Nashus and Scotch AlcaHallic not so much .
777Searchlight 2 weeks ago
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777Searchlight 2 weeks ago
WELL BRUTHUUUUUUURRRRRR
evrbody 2 weeks ago
I always thought Konnan looked out of place with the Wolf Pack... Just my opinion
Bones87ish 2 weeks ago
@Bones87ish
IMO he was one of the best parts..and the dude was over
theraVen27 2 weeks ago
Way to sell that power bomb, Hogan. /sarcasm
NoInnerKind 2 weeks ago 3
the formation of the nWo Wolfpac was the first mistake that led to the death of wcw. Nash should have quit the nWo and join forces with Bret Hart to kill the black&white.
Berzerk1287 2 weeks ago
alot of people saying 'right now'
666rocko 3 weeks ago
I'd forgotten what complete garbage the WCW was
EmperorTaebok 3 weeks ago
What a bunch of hasbeen
jungle10ful 3 weeks ago
NWO should been Hogan, Hall, Nash, and Waltman, no more no less.
MickeyLynott 3 weeks ago
@MickeyLynott I agree totallly . It just got waaaaay too big and out of hand to the point where all you saw on the show was NWO and nothing else . .
777Searchlight 2 weeks ago
@777Searchlight That's cause everyone was in the NWO at one point.
thewilliamgregg 2 weeks ago
The rise and fall of WCW = nWo
PCnoobcakes 3 weeks ago
what dvd was this from?
jettenjetta 3 weeks ago
Sting joining the nWo made no sense
1ex1uger 3 weeks ago 15
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KiteStrongart 3 weeks ago
Brother We Coming For You Nigga
Dvizion08 3 weeks ago 3
What is the meaning of "Bruh"?
litehouse6 4 weeks ago
@litehouse6 slang for "brother"?
timongarretson 3 weeks ago
Konan, one of the most useless people in WCW.
hbk92701 4 weeks ago 2
Cool vid
thuganomics84 1 month ago
big sexy.
MrBluedso 1 month ago
@rohgenextfan WCW was kill the WWF in rating bruh. They (wwf) almost went under. When Ted Turnner sold the superstation Warner Bros. didn't want a wrestling program. That's way WCW went under. Look at monday night wars from wwe video.
MrFilmMakerNumber2 1 month ago
@MrFilmMakerNumber2 At the end of the Monday Night Wars, WWF was burying WCW with 6.0-7.0s in the ratings. WCW was floundering around TNA numbers with 1.0-2.0s. If WCW was actually drawing instead of bleeding money, WB would have kept it because you can't argue with money.
WolfGuyX 1 month ago
Stoneman180190 1 month ago
Creepy. 222,222 views. That is a sign. nWo is coming back
PersianHercules 1 month ago
While all this was going on i think Scott Hall should of gone with the "Lone Wolf" gimmick at least for a lil while. Sigh but we all know the problems he was having so who knows if he was up for it at the time =/
OtakuJdm 1 month ago
How did I get here? Must be time for sleep.
audiopro316 1 month ago
The nWo Wolfpac could've been a great angle. Instead, it ended up being a colossal prank pulled on the WCW fans.
angelus4282 1 month ago 15
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@angelus4282 : The reason why it failed, was the addition of konnan. Anytime you incorporate nasty foul beaners in something, it turns into a fail. Just look at the currant WWE. They suck right now, because of garbage like del rio, mysterio, sin cara, and that hunico beaner.
greatvaluepoop 1 month ago
@greatvaluepoop You have problems ,kthanksbye
blahtotheblah 1 month ago
@greatvaluepoop It failed because they added too many people to the nWo, pushed the storyline too much, and ran it for too long.
And the current (spelled with an "e" when talking about things ongoing or in the present, for future reference) WWE has been in a popular and financial decline for years, long before Del Rio, Sin Cara or Hunico got there. To say that they are the cause is laughable.
NickFrmCA1 1 month ago
@greatvaluepoop fuck off
32MRLEON 1 month ago
NWO 4 life
pancakeicon 1 month ago
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@pancakeicon NWO 4 life what that's meaning? everbody said that and I know new world order that become in 2012...can you plz tell me?
ksaBOSS07 1 month ago
hogan doesnt like to sell, its so not cool to watch
AronHallan 1 month ago
damn, hogan SUCKS at selling. he' such a shit wrestler.
LeninReturns 1 month ago
Did Hogan sandbag Nash on that powerbomb?
roebuckmckinney 2 months ago 3
NWO should have slow2ly died when sting beat hogan, then started putting over the young stars. it would have crippled wwe
TheEviIOyo 2 months ago
Konnan was always a goof.
OldCarsAreBest 2 months ago
"Well, BROTHER-EERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!"
Leidern 2 months ago 5
The Wolfpack was pretty lame in it's second incarnation. It was better with Hall, Nash, and Syxx
joemj413 2 months ago
lol @ hogan sandbagging nash's powerbomb. wish he drove him on his beck
drunkensailor112 3 months ago
monday night nitro was the best show ever....
sankaescobar69 3 months ago
@sankaescobar69 BRO I CNT AGREE WIT U MORE IAM 24 AND I REMEMER THIS LIKE YESTERDAY THIS IS REAL TV
kmcroomsfuneralhome 3 months ago
wolfpac forever!
gannon1op 3 months ago
WCW 4 Life. nWo 4 Life.
WWETNAUnleashed 4 months ago 47
at :45 I want sunglasses just like Scott Norton!!!
Ghouse666 4 months ago
Wolfpack sucked.
Black & White 4 life.
AgentMorgan2010 4 months ago
kevin nash the outsider on vhs man i wish i had it with me so i can watch it over and over again
Gameboi2010 4 months ago
what video is this from?
jsimpson626 4 months ago
can we please get wrstlinfg back 2 the way it was in 1994-1999 this shit i watched 2 nite on spike tna is so lame and a disgrace the wwe is so bad i dont want 2 see a pale irish guy samus please get some real talent, cena is small weak and lame .. please get better wrestlers 2 tna and wwe, also wwe u ruined ecw what the hell were u doing????????????????????????????????????????????
3451wasp 4 months ago
@3451wasp roh my friend. its our only hope
liveandletrock864 4 months ago
Guys who never should have been in the NWO in any capacity: Luger, Sting, Macho Man, Bret Hart.
MalnourishedGoat 5 months ago 3
@MalnourishedGoat U have a good point on some of those, but the Macho Man actually fit right in because he did team up with Hogan earlier in his career. Luger and Sting should have stayed out of the nWo and Bret Hart should've just feuded with someone in the nWo
RingTailedAssassin 4 months ago
From nwo 4-life...still only a vhs
X2Magneto 5 months ago
Umm, this was not the formation of the Wolfpac. It started a good year earlier: Nash, Hall and Syxx.
tubehows4life 5 months ago
@tubehows4life
Eh, not many people acknowledge the original Wolfpac, though those three alone were cooler than any other version of the nWo. The "Wolfpac" that most people remember, and the only one WCW truly acknowledged as it's own seperate group was in this video.... With a ruined Sting character and fucking Konnan? Sigh...
RyanPelley1 5 months ago
@RyanPelley1 Yeah I know, Red Sting MAY just pass, but Lex Luger has no idea what nWo cool was all about lol.
tubehows4life 5 months ago
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tubehows4life 5 months ago
What are you guys talking about you can still see WCW every thursday night on Spike
MrFishinaBarrel 5 months ago
WWE/TNA whatever they try to do they will NEVER,EVER be the same as WWF/WCW generally the old TIMES!!!!!!!!!
cmshotgun 5 months ago
@cmshotgun. But the WWE doesn't want to be like old times. They are moving forward, which is what they should be doing, and are doing it very well.
oshea900 5 months ago
@oshea900 WWE should be like old times, since that is when it was more popular and made more money. Now they have only cheaper talent that hardly wrestles. Raw is 90% talking and BS now, there is actually very little wrestling going on.
drownoble 5 months ago
@drownoble The WWE is just as popular and making more money now than at any other time. Also Raw is averaging about the same amount of actual wrestling now, compared to any other time in the last 15 years, which is about 45-50 minutes.
oshea900 5 months ago
@oshea900 Actually no it isn't. They had to switch to cheaper cable channels and can't afford to hire big name talent. In the late 90's there would be several matches in Raw, today it's sometimes almost an hour before an actual wrestling match starts. It's still making money but not nearly as much as 10 years ago.
drownoble 5 months ago
@drownoble Both USA Network and Sci Fi are owned by NBCUniversal. They already have the big talent, so they can obviously afford them. Haven't seen how well the CM Punk/Kevin Nash/HHH feud is going right now, either?
On revenue/profit. Here is just one comparison 1999-2000: $373,100,000/$68,937,000 and 2010: $477,700,000/$53,300,000. I can get numbers for the last 15 years if you'd like.
As for saying it's sometimes an hour before the first match, maybe it is, but that's the same as 1999.
oshea900 5 months ago
@oshea900 HHH is Vince' son-in-law, doubtful he'd get "fired". Q2 2011 financials were net income $14.3 mil or $0.19 per share. Not exactly the $477 mil you quoted. WWE has been branching away from actual wrestling for years, this is why we see more video games and WWE funded movies (The Marine for example).
drownoble 5 months ago
@drownoble. I was saying that in terms of quality. It's a good feud going on in terms of on-screen, but you mustn't be watching. The first number is revenue NOT profit. So far, the number you quoted, by the end of the year, will infact be around average or around $50 Million. It seems you've only listed the numbers for 3 months also, not an entire year. My numbers are April 1 - March 31.
I commend Vince on giving these other ventures a go to expand his product. Good on him.
oshea900 5 months ago
@oshea900 Vince pretty much had to branch out as WWE by itself wasn't turning out the profits it used to. I'll admit some of the movies are decent, but the 2nd W is supposed to stand for "wrestling" which there is very little of. TNA pretty much formed for wrestlers that actually wanted to wrestle OR didn't want to work for Vince. Sting was the best example of a wrestler who refused to come to WWE.
drownoble 5 months ago
@drownoble. That's false. Vince has always wanted to branch out. In the early 90's he had the failed WBF, and in the early 2000's, he had the failed XFL. Also in the early 2000's he had WWF New York/The World, which was also turning out a loss.
Also people seem to think that because there is lack of swearing and innuendo, that makes for a shit product, which is wrong. The WWE still has the same amount of wrestling as 10 years ago. Also, what would you rather? ...
oshea900 5 months ago
@oshea900 ... A bikini contest, as what it was 10 years ago, or a 5-8 minute match? The same people that complained about a bikini contest, are now complaining about divas matches. And TNA, what do they average in the ratings in the US? A 1.0 -1.2?
People know what they want to watch, and it ain't TNA.
oshea900 5 months ago
@oshea900 What is false? There are many wrestlers that refuse to work for Vince. That is well documented, Sting being the most well-known among them. There is less wrestling now than there was 10 years ago, just watch old Raw episodes and you'll see. WWE as a whole is making money as Vince has had to branch out. The wrestling part, just isn't turning out the dollars like it used to.
drownoble 5 months ago
@drownoble. You saying that the WWE are only now branching out is false. And I don't care who doesn't want to work for Vince. For every one that doesn't, there are 10 who do. And I have every single Raw and Smackdown episode, and as a whole, there is just as much now as there was 10 years ago. Like I said averaging about 45-50 minutes per show. The WWE now just has no shitty chair shots or weapon use like it did back then, so people think the quality of the match is less, which it isn't.
oshea900 5 months ago
@oshea900 Exactly, during the attitude era most of the wrestlers and matches were terrible. The only things that were better were the characters and the promos.
gazz12345a 4 months ago
The cancer was NWO 2000 instead of new stable of villians the band comes back together-FAIL, as if people really bought into Bret Hart, and Stevie Ray being members of the New World Order.
MrDp115 6 months ago
Why did WCW die? Because the NWO was a cancer. It got so powerful that the NWO took over wcw and that what it was all about. When they took away the nwo...there was nothing left.
theflawless00 6 months ago
woah woah wait up just a second. WHERE The HELL is ALAN???
kingMe20x 6 months ago
fucking hogan no selling everything. lousy ratfuck.
CopyPasteWarrior 6 months ago 3
nWo was crap and wolfpac was crap too. Instead of teaming nash and hall together with younger guys like jericho, booker, benoit etc. they put on a group with luger and sting who didnt fit in especially luger. Macho man and Henning were at least ok but Konnan? He was young but he was a boring guy.
PacoZola 6 months ago
@PacoZola Why are you watching it then?
MasakadosMagatama 3 months ago
@MasakadosMagatama Stupid question:( Because I watched in the 90s and tell my oppinion. Got it?
PacoZola 3 months ago
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@PacoZola Not really stupid, why are you watching it again on youtube if it is so boring and you hate it so much? I don't get it.
MasakadosMagatama 3 months ago
Those were the days...
Revodude2008 6 months ago
@Friday13thTaurus Yes but still, the matter of fact is true life. Time Warner DID buy out Turner and took over WCW and everything Ted owned. WCW was left as they said the bastard son nobody wanted. T.W in time did want to get rid of wrestling, even Eric admitted to it. Either way its been 10 years since WCW died and now those people who celebrated that buy out are probably saying " We need WCW back"
texasguy10209 6 months ago
@Friday13thTaurus Nick knows what he is talking about. If you watch The Rise and Fall of WCW it clearly tells u that TED TURNER Merged with Time Warner, and in doing so, Ted Lost complete control of WCW. T.W did not want wrestling on any of their new channels {TBS and TNT} so THEY called Vince and offered WCW to him. Last I read, Vince got WCW for 4.5 Million. WCW was not worth that. It was worth a HELL a lot more but at the end T.W and Vince made a deal. T.W got rid of WCW and so did Vince
texasguy10209 6 months ago
Is there a DVD or video (released by either WWE or WCW) that covers the nWo split? I know the "Back in Black" DVD doesn't talk about the split, and I can't find any info about it. PLEASE message me on youtube if you know of a disc/video that tells the history of nWo black & white vs. nWo wolfpac.
Where is this video from? ...is it from WWE 24/7 (or whatever), or from a home video?
idioteque555 7 months ago
i love how the wolfpack never was agianst the wcw...they where just against Nwo with hogan
dk5388 7 months ago
Where this documentary of the NWO split came from? like what dvd video? if it came from one
Iforlyfe 7 months ago
@Iforlyfe the rise and falls of the wcw i think. but i'm not sure at all
TheOmegaGamestar 7 months ago
& Plus Bishoff Is Overrated Cuz He Only Had Ted Turner Money & I Always Felt If Paul Heyman Had The Same Resources Who Know What Have Happened?
DreDiddy83 7 months ago
To Tell The Truth WCW Could've Made More Money If They Booked Hogan Vs Bret Hart But He Was Bury And Out Of Place Cuz Of Hogan's Ego But If Bischoff Was A True He Would've Made It Happened Instead Of Having His Head Up Hogans Ass!!!
DreDiddy83 7 months ago
@DreDiddy83 Plus I think Goldberg put Hart on the shelf, if I remember, because they rushed him and he wasn't properly trained. I remember reading or watching something where many WCW wrestlers hated being in the ring with Goldberg because he was far from polished.
PRWfoot 7 months ago
@PRWfoot If I recall, the match you're thinking of was at a PPV where The Ultimate Warrior was supposed to come out of a trap door during the main event or possibly after. From what I remember hearing, Goldberg speared Bret onto that door.
tehCrazian 6 months ago
@tehCrazian Actually Davey Boy Smith got slammed on that trap door, that was at Fall Brawl 98.
SabinBlitz81 6 months ago
time warner aol killed wcw nwo made it awesome and made it suck later having every fucking top guy in the nwo at one point or another is like having stone cold the rock undertaker and mankind in d-x
whatthehellvideos 7 months ago
@Friday13thTaurus they could've avoided their parent company merging with AOL? Or avoided Jamie Kellner being promoted to CEO of TBS stations & making the decision to not air wrestling on TNT/TBS anymore? Bischoff had plans 2 buy WCW but what could he do with it, without a TV deal? Sell DVDs?
I agree WCW did start to suck in mid 99, & only got worse. But if Bischoff bought them - he wouldve had creative control & a WCW Attitude probably wouldve worked.
Some idiots need 2 stop watching WWE DVDs
nicknitro6969 7 months ago 58
@nicknitro6969 they had the talent , and could of took over, but terrible writing and production killed them.
AKAMUSICkeepit100 7 months ago
@nicknitro6969 I don't think Kellner would have been as quick to decide to stop airing WCW if they were making the ratings and money that they were in 1997/98. If they were still making that kind of money when Kellner took over he would've been a fool to stop showing WCW because they were a huge profit.
I also highly doubt Bischoff would have made the company successful again either. He tried in mid 1999 and mid 2000 and look what happened there (granted in 2000 he was paired with Russo).
bubba106 7 months ago
@nicknitro6969 NWO Got boring... It was the same shit week in and week out, they couldn't push new talent and relied on old guys they snag from WWE. Goldberg was their best push, and even they made him a joke. They brought the horsemen back, and even made them a joke. WcW lost the monday night wars cause they shot themselves in the foot. Sure NWO is the greatest group of all time, but they should have taken notes from Degeneration X.
FoxsitoTaquito 7 months ago
@nicknitro6969 lol well said
laughorcrytv 5 months ago
@nicknitro6969 I'd say if ratings hadn't dropped to the bottom of the barrel by 2001 TBS wouldn't have dropped it though.
tubehows4life 5 months ago
@nicknitro6969 Spot on sir.
Nordfelt 5 months ago
@nicknitro6969 His original point stands. The creative aspect of WCW took a nosedive and every good angle that the organization had going was squandered. The WCW was entirely distinct from the Attitude Era bullshit of the WWF, it was much more real and personal and less soap opera-esque. Whoever was writing the scripts obviously took a vacation.
cursedlemon 5 months ago
@nicknitro6969 garenteed money to wrestlers is what killed WCW....what was Bret Hart signed for? 3 Million Dollars a year? So he made 9 million dollars during his three years with WCW. It wasn't just the shitty storylines, poor booking, AOL and all in all terrible backstage moral that killed WCW. It was them just throwing money around like it was nothing because of big ted turner.
napalmman420 4 months ago
@nicknitro6969 Wow I was just thinking of that too if there was any way Eric Bischoff could keep WCW going.I wish he could but I dont think it got worse in 1999,it got worse in 2000 because that's when Vince Russo came in
kidz919 4 months ago
@nicknitro6969 Bischoff's over use of the NWO is one the reasons WCW died. He's as guilty as Russo for the company's demise.
rohgenextfan 3 months ago 52
@rohgenextfan true though WCW had better wrestlers WWF was always smarter then them when it came to knowing when to end a heel faction and not drawing out a storyline to long. WCW was living off that NWO shit for to long McMahon knew that that's why he ditch the NWO thing after taking over
DW1014 1 month ago
@rohgenextfan Thats just your opinion. But the truth his it takes a whole team of management to make the company die. Vince Russo was out of it when it started to fall down and so was Bishoff.
Demats89 1 month ago
@rohgenextfan exactly for letting hogan and nash going over his shoulder and doing shit they werent supposed to.
GangGreen80 3 weeks ago
@rohgenextfan It also had a lot to do with Stone Cold over in WWF because he did shit that no one ever did like drink beer, flip ppl off, stun everyone including Vince so that also had a lot to do with it. I agree with u though as well
Bones87ish 2 weeks ago
@rohgenextfan not just the nWo, there was also the lWo,. agreed though nWo storyline was overdone too much, when everyone on the roster was in one or the other it was just retarded,. Least in the case of DX they just kept it at 5 members and b4 it ran it's course they broke up went there seperate ways.
Spamazoid 2 weeks ago
@Spamazoid sorry i meant 6 members of DX. though that was short lived given HBK left leaving just the five with Triple H in charge and only at the end Kane sorta joined.
Spamazoid 2 weeks ago
Hogans a no-seller, he didnt sell that jack knife powerbomb at all at 2:20
He did the same thing to undertaker & the rock
Fondrom 3 months ago
@Fondrom
He laid there and didn't move....that's how you sell a jack knife. Not everyone is going to be an Eric Young, my favorite seller in wrestling now...
micahman3000 3 months ago
@nicknitro6969 what dvd is this?
princeofdarknessxyz1 2 months ago
Fuck luger!
caramico71 8 months ago 2
Wolfpac in da house!
TheoHuxtable07 8 months ago 2
Actuay they beat wwf for nearly 3 years in ratings
xion1212 8 months ago
i miss storylines like this. i can c tna winding up like this though. Storyline wise. I hope it does. Excluding vince russo and his viagra on a pole matches with david arquette as champ....
oplivecrime206 8 months ago
i was in elementary school and was in super MARK mode during this fued...
RickRomo 8 months ago
Sting and Luger joining anything nWo related seemed to be completely out of place. I was always down with nWo "Hollywood". I didn't become a bandwagon-er.
atticus805 8 months ago
What documentary is this from?
SeanOBriain 9 months ago
RIP Macho Man. NWO Wolfpack was the bomb!! But.....how come Macho was not listed at the end of video along with Nash, Sting, Konnan and Luger!?
warpath9000 9 months ago
@warpath9000 He was not in it for long. If I remember right, he was in it for a little while and went on hiatus. Curt Henning was also in it for a little while but joined the black and white.
Spengler56 9 months ago
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warpath9000 5 months ago
@Spengler56 Yeah that's true. I actually own some recorded tapes of wcw from back when the wolfpack started. I really loved the parts when the two nwo factions brawled. For the short time Macho man was part of the group,he contributed a great deal to the wolfpack from the gang fights to his tagmatch against hogan and bret hart at the great amarican bash. Curt was awesome as well, but his time in wolfpack was short and all I can remember from him was coming out for promos and turning on konnan
warpath9000 5 months ago
@warpath9000 Macho Man had been working with a knee injury for months & left to have knee surgery after first Nitro after Great American Bash 1998. It was a severe injury aswell & he did not return until 10 months later.
nWoWolfpacTV 8 months ago
@nWoWolfpacTV Yeah I heard about that too bud. I also heard a rumor that he was also having a contract dispute with wcw at that time too, but I'm not 100% sure about that
warpath9000 5 months ago
@warpath9000 That is true however it was a year later in 1999 that he had contract dispute after Road Wild. He only made 2 more appearences after that on Nitro on October 25th for a promo & on last day of his contract he had house show match against Sid Vicious on 14th January 2000 replacing the injured Bret Hart (from concussion injury he suffered at hands of Goldberg forcing him to retire). He made one last appearnce on Thunder before Slamboree 2000 as favor to Bischoff.
nWoWolfpacTV 5 months ago
can't bring back nwo vince owns it brother
DarthBandon01 9 months ago 2
bring back the motherfuckin nWo fuck yeah dude
Sasachan17 9 months ago
R.I.P Randy Savage
TheWyattice 9 months ago
They tried to make this some bloods and crips type shit with a bunch of middle aged white dudes. hahaha No wonder WCW tanked.
Kingjd87 9 months ago
@Kingjd87 Only it worked.....they made $50 million profit in 1998 & traded ratings victories throughout year with WWF even with Stone Cold on fire. Only after they ended the "bloods and crips type shit with a bunch of middle aged white dudes" did WCW tank & that is reflected in the ratings & PPV buyrates.
nWoWolfpacTV 8 months ago
where is this from? was there a documentary on WCW?
Makoto03 9 months ago
Damn Hogan really dead-weighted that powerbomb
cosmiccountrynoir 9 months ago
nWo Wolfpac was the best thing to ever happen to WCW.
iPlayboyX 10 months ago
@iPlayboyX The very first nWo was the best (Hall, Nash, Hogan).
eliaskementse 10 months ago
@eliaskementse can't argue with that..
iPlayboyX 10 months ago
Once again, Hogan NOT selling someone's move. Way to stay humble...
jgatort 10 months ago
Luger did not belong in The Woflpack.
iquitmatch 11 months ago
Those kicks from Bischoff are so funny lol.
Macca1969 11 months ago 3
Horrible sense of style... totally country and tacky. But you gotta love it.
tommymarines1 11 months ago
As good a talent as Nash was/is, he always seemed to look like just a regular guy in either WCW or TNA. At least when he was in his Diesel persona in WWF/E, he looked like a star.
nisfinest1 1 year ago 3