bla bla - there is pollution and there is no technology bla bla. And what is technology that is in lack there? It's capital. Tools, machines - the things that produce wealth. If one has capital, wealtch, machines and technologi one is wealthy because one can produce wealth. Wealth is being created efficiently by division of labour, by capitalism. They are not wealthy enaugh - that's why have dirty lakes. And all the regulations he's talking about is government. What he's proposing is world gov!
Charlie and Jacque, o.o my mind was just blown. Two of the greatest people i've seen on the internet in one place, how could it handle that much awesome?
it's unfortunate that Jacque Fresco decided to disassociate himself from TZM on the basis of Ego after everything that Peter J and the people involved in TZM have done in getting The Venus Project known and throughout the world
@slash4689 They are all shills anyway. I'm happy that the movement is failing due to petty infighting. Good riddance. It's just repackaged communism anyway.
@FitnessByMatt judging by your previous and current comments you haven't done your homework in regards to what an RBE is and what it stands for you're just trolling
@slash4689 RBE has not, cannot, and will never work. If you attempt to force me and billions of other people into your system, it will create armed resistance. How does The Zeitgeist Movement expect to stop that other than to assume it will not happen?
@FitnessByMatt also if you haven't done so i humbly ask that you check out this book called THE FIRST CIVILIZATION by Jas Garcha it's available to download for free and explains what an RBE is and what it stands for
Jacque is confused but he has valid points from a scientic materialistisk view point. But peter has metapsycial ideas about good and evil, and that all culture is brainwashing...a speciell duo indeed.
@ 00:48 Jacque talks about his trip to India and says;
“…and the atmosphere was full of toxic materials, the water dirty, due to the fact that they don’t have the proper technology to help maintain cleanliness.”
I do not think that India is polluted because they do not have the proper technology to help maintain cleanliness.
Indians did not pollute it as a whole. I think it would be better to say that the Indian people, under monetary rule, accidentally polluted their lands, because a system was imposed in which the said people had to conform to. The effect of industrial and commercial change in India was most likely the reason for the problems they face. For instance, they would have been very self sufficient before supermarkets and jobs were shipped over there.
people wouldn't watch boxing if they were educated? Thats fucking stupid, its highly technical sport that has some of the greatest athletes of all time.
hehehe wow you'r so wrong' it has been proven that boxing can cause some serious brain damge to fighters and although watching two man kicking the shit of each other is cool calling that a sport is stupid
@sayroni no what else causes brain damage? Football,hocket, baseball, skydiving, motocross, skateboarding, nascar, snowboarding .....etc......There is no better athlete then a boxer, the science of boxing is so technical so if you think boxing is nothing but idiots beating the shit out of eachother you're stupid and probably thinking of drunken street fights.
@coopmuch56 No, agreed. It's highly technical. But the primary purpose is punching as hard as you can to knock the other guy out. And you know what that knockout is, right? It's punching and jolting the head so hard that the brain bounces around the the skull. None of the other sports you've mentioned are BUILT to do that. There are only mishaps. Sure there are also fighters who like to win on points, but do people go for that? No. They go to see Mike Tyson KO the other guy in the first round
Whenever you watch a recent jacques Fresco video...it is importnt to note that he is 95...although still a very cognitive man, he cannot articulate as well as he once could, and tends to get off point. But his work is there for us to discover and expand upon.
They are trying to produce a mainstream motion picture for the Venus project, but they need donations. It's up to almost $39,000 5/8/11. All profits will go towards building the first city.
Morality has nothing to do with emotions, it's very rational and based on highter analytical conciousness, wich we still quite not understand yet. Even not armies of theologists.
I'm sad because I discovered J. Fresco only recently, and the vast majority of his beliefs are in agreement with mine. What's also sad, is the fact that our Info outlets like TV, Radio, etc are feeding us JUNK while this brilliant mind is hidden to the world. I had to hear about him through a friend, than looked it up on the internet ! The internet is the most important INFO outlet at this time because is not yet fully regulated to fit any agenda. We will have to defend it with our lives !
Jacque is a real inspiration for me. It is hard to tell, when you think "everything sucks" all the time and there comes such an inspiration like Roxanne and Jacque and actually so many other people who have the same thoughts like me come together and you see a big international movement coming together.
Well all I want to say is, I can see hope again :-)
...Jacque is quite simply a natural person, he sat back one day, and looked at the human race and thought,...."Something is wrong" , we all know his thoughts, but never went further then he, on this scale of thought.
Everybody loves Jacque. He does ramble on though, doesn't he? It's really good that he and Peter found each other. Jacque needed a real voice and Peter needed a real idea. They've gone from some guy who showed up once the local news and builds shit in his backyard and a radical 9/11 truth filmer to something that will without a doubt be in the history books.
@cogitheum You have too much faith in this cause. The science doesn't work. The logic doesn't make sense. Scarcity can't be eliminated and even if it could the idea that eliminating material scarcity (because that's all they address--they fail to consider other forms of scarcity) would eliminate the need for laws is tantamount to money buying happiness. And we all know money can't buy happiness. If this is in the history books it will only be as one more failed hippie commune.
@jeffsgay: Faith? Nobody said it would be perfect. In fact, we're very clear that it won't be. The question is, "would it be an improvement?" and it would be a great improvement. This is much needed, since if capitalism and nationalism continue for another 100 years, it's a pretty good bet that there won't be a human being alive in 200 years. We're talking about what is chiefly a material solution to material problems. It's not contradictory to non-material solutions to non-material ones.
@cogitheum TZM and TVP would definitely have been a wonderful combination, but I don´t know if you ´re aware of the recent events...The Venus Project people decided to detach themselves from The Zeitgeist movement on very weak and incorrect grounds. Roxane expressed that Peter wanted to "know more than Jacque" which is something that was never suggested. So now Peter dedicated hours to TVP in his films, TVP became widely known for that and now they move on. A wrong proceedings in my opinion.
@flchange I think so too. It was very sad for everyone when they split, it looks like over money to me. They awakened a lot of people, myself included. I don't really see either group as living very long independent of one another, but that's not the end of the world. They opened a lot of eyes, and not just to themselves, but to leftist and anarchist thought more generally, of which they were little more than a very well done summary with technocratic emphasis. Those people will stay awake.
Now look at page 2 of the comments section on Silkie Carlo's home page on youtube and see what she has to say about the hijacked blog, Silkie Carlo was Charlie Veitch's girlfreind at the time, she states it's 100% truthful but don't trust me see for yourself
Some people are more susceptible to the ills of culture then others. My culture tells me to buy things that have no value, yet I know what I value and it's not things.
I admire Jaqcue very much but I do question him. An utopia is very impossible not matter how logical it sounds. Humans are too ignorant and willing to make mistakes over and over again. Being raised in a society that doesn't tell you to question your purpose and what you want, a society that throws things they think we want at us just fuels our ignorance even more so. That is why all I can see in our bleak future is death and war.
@cakeatsnake68 Most of my own issues with TZM are due to the way its' followers behave, not the group's ideas themselves. Jaque's ideas are testable.
When he talks about environmental reclamation, for instance, you can look at what he has been able to do with his own property; and how well landscaped that is, as well as incorporating those domes.
I don't necessarily agree with all of his ideas about human nature, but a lot of what he talks about is very interesting.
@cakeatsnake68 Another thing; I don't necessarily think an RBE is entirely possible, but I DO agree with Jaque that a much better world is possible, with the enlightened use of technology. The early Internet (and I mean pre-mainstream, when it was still a technocracy, not the largely centralised mess we have now) proved that. If people really want to make something that works, they can.
@petrus4 designing an airplane was totally impossible in the early 1900's :). Once you remove special interest and money then anything is posssible :)
i think hes ideas is too far away from our time. This guy is genius, i think when we reach to this one day what he`s saying, then ppl start to think,ou this guy said everything right. Hes great thinker.
Most of the people in Nazi Germany who were against Hitler listened to Jazz Music which was forbidden (you got arrested for it) but to listen to it they needed to listen to British and American airwaves and picked up Allies Propaganda.... I agree with Jacques on this one but theres just some people who question things more than others.
Its so for the animals also in india eg cows eating plasic bags, they dont hide their plastic under the ground there so there has been bits of plastic floating around there since it was invented, what a mess. having said this many Indians are spiritual millionairs but have no material posessions, many have no shoes but they don't want shoes
@Leofox94 There is! Only it's called Z-day. It falls around Jacque's birthday every March. This year it will be occurring on the weekend of March 12-13 worldwide. Visit the website for The Zeitgeist Movement for more details and to see about events in your own area.
It's a shame that this man is sometimes labeled as a crackpot or a dreamer. He is a modern day genius and he is getting older. He advocates for a better society for all mankind regardless of national affiliation. He holds over a hundred patents that have benefited society. People get so upset when he voices an idea that is contrary to their own. They immediately go on the defensive without even considering the validity of his idea. We need more people that think like him and only want whats best
WORSE they give donations and they make lots of cash on books and lectures (memorized bull crap and lie stories to hide it is all EPCOT) Then the old Roxanne Meadows comes and ask for funds.. a Movie? made free! models? No need of donation from you they are rich! Movie to explain flaws become advertising and major motion picture is done with common cams like the cannon pen. Research center? NEVER! It is 100% EPCOT stolen and so can't be built on this planet without permission!
You will be very disapointed like all the others... he was a fak fraud all along and has nothing to offer that we do not have better today and can build legal UNLIKR HIS that is stolen from EPCOT and can't be built same as it was in 1975 76 77 78 79 80....2011 He can't build a research center/tourist trap... that was EPCOT and so are all the things he claims for his city and RBE does not exist it is NON MONETARY SYSTEM and the promise of the Bible... they have lied to make donations
@Peterwhitlock hmm did you reply to every comment on this video ?:P anyway, I agree with what he says in the 1th part of this video. I havent seen the whole interview
No he is making points that are not his and promote a placing of TVP and TZM over the Bible itself as he satanically hate it all publicly. He hate Disney because they own his TVP concept that he copied from Theist to attack the Theist and bible with as a satanist. he lied his life by reversing all his mistakes with lie stories he has flaws you can prove are lies in all of them. he is rich and asked donations for 35 and had no use of the money or cause to use it HE KNEW it was stealing!
Ya he repeats the same CON of lies people complain about since 1975 and when asked questions he reverts to that memorized crap people complain about since the 1975 start! Why did you copy EPCOT?... he walks away! Why did you just change NON MONETARY SYSTEM/ (planet) to a non loical wording like RBE that points to HUMANS as the resource and resourful then want no humans to work and replace them with robots to protect the CITY of evil YOU bought HER as TVP single owner FOR NO REASON!
They used to use a simple cam of the computer for the other movies....cast is all friends and no money what so ever was used...but the donation Box is active for all them things they can't buid or have no reson to build like Z land for it be to steal donations to build anywhere but cyberspace...but the perfect circular city is here from JESUS and his glory is hidden by fools playing in his king seat promoting WAR to RBE.
I'd say he get's annoyed with all the tons of interviews he's asked to do...all his answers are the same because he is just reinforcing his point all the time..he prob has it learned to a tee like a script haha
dude,i can't believe how this video just has 13k views,it's unbelievable,justin bieber and that shit over there, has 1 million per day,So it means how stupid is actually our society.
it is because most people know he is a lying con man all his life that lid all his life to you and all his skills and all his work places.. to let you know he was a con and passing TVp was just another con of his to steal donation and have victims say they are not victims... it is the old HOLLYWOOD MOVIE INVESTMENT SCAM and they ask for donations to make movies that are free same as the motion picture they boast now is FREE made as a con to get more donations as members leave them
DO YOUR RESEARCH.... AND BE AWARE.... THOSE WHO SAY THEY WANT GOOD FOR YOU BUT ASK YOU TO FUND IT.... ARE IN NEED OF BEING TRULY QUESTIONED.... JACQUE IS CORRECT THAT THEIR IS MUCH NON FREEDOM... BUT THAT IS DUE TO THE CURRENT ORDER ... THE ORDER THEY ARE CREATING IS FOR A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.... BE CAREFUL...
@carolinagsings77 those who say they want for you but ask you to fund it--you just described every institution that man has created from the beginning of time.
@VenusFreedom777 - hahaha very true.... I've been searching deeper as always, and holding tight to my fiking sanity.... this shiet just keeps gettin crazy the further down you go ya know.... anyhow... the suggestions for the future as presented by Jacque do have a great deal of goodness to them... I feel however, that they presented step 10... and now we need to take step one and on to get to this possible place of a society shaped by us.... common people...
@carolinagsings77 yeah--no I think I understand what you are saying--I think I do--the idea that has been put forth is the first step being taking an assessment (thru a computer that can perform the task) of the earth's resources--the train of thought is that we can't get much done until we take that first step;)
@VenusFreedom777 - Im not sure if VP has the ability to do such a thing... with each country .. permission I mean...
I was leaning toward the sovereign mevement and the common law principles... but they all are quite tricky and seem to be gettin folks locked up... so... ill just focus on what i know i have the ability to do... sing, dance and create music.... I want to help the world... perhaps this is my only option...
It is the most insulting MONKEY choice possible.... gee I will do exactly what my ancestord did... dance like fools sing like fools and make music like fools because they were so small minded it was the best they could come up with ...they at least were not saying they were going to serve mankind that way... they did it for free and fun for themselves! it is a shame you choose to lower your sights from saving mankind to acting like an ape and call that help. GO PLANT SEEDS!
we did all that long ago! JAcques fresco is a nut case that think we are still in 1939 and need sensors to watch water levels and calculate plaet resources you know dam well are known! How the heck do you think we fin oil and gold and search other planet for? We are not TVP dummies!
WTF do you think the WEB is if not the central computer of the planet? Are you a child? You fall for the most easy traps of con people after donations and Fight the Church of jesus
all th good comes from the Bible and all the rest the con job to fake it is not stolen from there but comes from him and that after a life of crime he is like Jesus ..that is how low this monster is!
idiot the Bible is made to stop stories from getting out of hand and hold the secret of how to build perfect cities from the ARK to ARK cities the whole Bible is justified and YOU are exposed as prejudice and vanity too vain to learn thing from the scripture and so vain and evil you chose to follow other things than the GOOD and so feel the need to protect evil... a pawn made to be used by evil same as usual.
The cure is here... it is a city better than all other to copy...repent!
actually you are slave in his world and the only free people are called SURVEYORS that as you see have the nice houses and lands and all that..the others live in slave apartments and have no freedom and just more of the troubles you see in apartments now that when confronted with he never once in 35 years had a solutions and is asking others to solve it free for him and solve the impossible to solve problems he fakes don't exist!
Just obey the city i give you and build that... it is 1000 fold more logical and wise than all others as end result of all curcular cites possible for mankind...the CHURCH OF JESUS and his ARK CITIES are here. They are PLUG AND USE so super versatile and functional to transit from MONETARY to NON MONETARY Planet in peace and remove all YOU don't like to enter your city copy. UTOPIA for all! The promise of the scriptures is passing RIGHT NOW! Learn ark cities
JACQUES IS EXPOSED AS A CON MAN ALL HIS LIFE AND TVP A PLOY TO STEAL DONATION AND THE CHURCH OF JESUS PHYSICAL FROM PROPHECY TOO DO IT... the thief even changed all his life in lies from his racist fist 40 years of life as kkk and other racist groups to pretend he is like Jesus and and prophecy was Atheist... this man is the low of the low satanic crook con man stealing donations he never needed and still after 35 years not one dime was used on the project to prove it!
@carolinagsings77 I agree with you, they shouldn´t ask for donations, when, clearly, money can´t solve the monetary-to-RBE shift. But calling them New World Order is too much. They have good intentions, but they still haven´t figured out how to organize it and achieve their goals. That´s up to the Zeitgeist movement and the individuals of this planet.
@gasto5 - New World Order is to me... the order that has always been in position... what we have and still live under... However, with new understandings that come daily, new insights that happen hourly and constant self evaluation, Ive come to see that none of it really matters in the sense that we will be and live as we choose to... I wanted to change things for along time, but now... I am in it, but not of it... I have a choice to watch TV, or eat what I eat, or think what I think.
he sure steal and lies like one...oh ya moneys are better than him! they do not steal from the Bible and then attack the bible to hide where it he stole it... he hates the Bible because he stole from it the whole TVP concept to fight it.....gee can you say SATANIST?
who offered you the perfect city to save mankind? Jesus or jacques Fresco? he just admited his Hitler like domination plans when pushed on the radio! Exposed himself on THE EDGE.
@gasto5 How come you can't find the difference of TVP research city and EPCOT? How come all the stuff that has any sense of Jacques freco is copied from Disney land? How come he wound up with the land and donation money as well as the buildings his last group of members do not have today! How come his SOCIOCYBERNEERING INC project just became his love nest project? and why do they ask donations when they make a fortune on books and speeches at over 10,000 a shot! WHY buy HER a CITY?
Man this guy thinks like me, its amazing. I always say don't judge people because you havn't walked in their shoes and I also say if we would educate are kids in a perfect way we would be able to create a generation of progress if however we keep educating them the way we do now with our own limitations we will keep producing damaged little individuals. A kid is a sensitive little creature and most people don't understand that, if you yell or show something shocking it will effect him for ever.
Ya but he is a SATANIST that is LYING all his life and jobs and events as no one you know would change all they did in life for lies! Then he claims the Bible prophecy as from TVP and copied it all!!!! NOW he claims the future of mankind is saved by TVP not the Bible he got it all from and claimed as from HIM just as the Bible say he would and BURN for it in eternity in the records of History as we start to burn him now never shall he stop burning!
To talk about VP and organize information about what to do about this project vist vpforums.webs.com Civilization has just begun, we must take on the everlasting responsibility to make it. Look forward to hearing from you in the future.
@gblake32 Thinking you are better and being better are different? We seem to have fallen into a trap of words, my argument is essentialy algebreic in nature, the words may as well be x's and y's. What im trying to convey is that ideas of morality, better or worse lives, good and evil people, right and wrong... they are all a matter of perspective, and being as we cannot agree on them, as Jaque says; we aught not to cast judgement based on those grounds, But I am sure you allready understand this
@sexyyuan I (as in ME) would define nature/ natural as anything that exists.. just because something is man made, that doesnt make it unnatural.. if we as an animal are part of nature/ a natural occurance, then anything we do or create is natural, no?
its allmost a redundant word, its like the word 'real', even something 'imaginary' can have an actual effect on the 'real' world, so is it not 'real'?... this all comes down again to the lack of definite definitions for our terms.
YES his 11 year olf child IQ and his ability to blantantly steal from extremely well known things like DISNEY LAND and the E.P.C.O.T. 1939 world fair, manly P Hall, Ebenezer Howard and all the history of THEIST and the Scripture teachings and secrets of the great prophecy of the perfect template city all can copy to make all equals and unify the planet with no more money or politics because of how it works THE CHURCH OF JESUS ITSELF! COME! Come learn at Peter whitlock channel
@sexyyuan What proof do you have to show that 'human nature' deserves to be 'believe[d] in'? As Jacque says, if you were born and raised an Amazonian head-hunter, you would see nothing wrong with walking around with heads strapped to your waist... You are a product of your environment and your experiences, 'Nature' appears to have next to nothing to do with it.. please reply.
@tr0ybear dont you believe that even though we are a product of our environment that somewhere in our spirit rests a strength in state of mind that we can veer from that culture and system we were brought up in? depending on the extremities of course.
@gblake32 your wishes or 'will' to veer from your culture could be explained as a result of your perceptions, your experiences... for instance, you may become aware of something hypocrytical in your culture, and previous experience/ learnt behaiviour will cause you to be opposed to something hypocrytical, so you appear to have done something out of the ordinary, when in actual fact it is an inescapable logical conclusion to the experience you underwent.
bla bla - there is pollution and there is no technology bla bla. And what is technology that is in lack there? It's capital. Tools, machines - the things that produce wealth. If one has capital, wealtch, machines and technologi one is wealthy because one can produce wealth. Wealth is being created efficiently by division of labour, by capitalism. They are not wealthy enaugh - that's why have dirty lakes. And all the regulations he's talking about is government. What he's proposing is world gov!
pipem4n 2 weeks ago
Jacque seems to say the same thing in every interview and everything he says is easily refutable.
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
So now this Jacque is judging Sicilian culture? Does this moron even realize he is stereotyping people as he claims stereotyping is bad?
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
So Jacque assumes that all Americans living in the South stereotype and hate Black people? Isn't that Jacque doing the stereotyping there?
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
I respect Jacque Fresco very much, as he seems to be very honest.
There is so much potential to be unlocked by switching from a competitive economy to a cooperative economy.
I think it would something like this in math:
Competition: 100% people / [goal] + (technology) = mostly sad
Cooperation: 100% people - [goal] * (technology) = mostly happy
ergoTheVenusProject 1 month ago
@ergoTheVenusProject Jacque is honest, just dumb.
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
Peccato..pessima la traduzionbe in italiano..!
astrodelluniverso 1 month ago
wooot! howcome I haven't seen this video before? And howcome you're not referring to TVP more often? It's such a wonderful set of ideas.
selvmordspilot 1 month ago
Omg, just watching the first video feels like you just watched all the videos.
GeneralAring 3 months ago
Charlie and Jacque, o.o my mind was just blown. Two of the greatest people i've seen on the internet in one place, how could it handle that much awesome?
Charlie and Jacque, love to both of you :)
RolyatDerTeufel 4 months ago
it's unfortunate that Jacque Fresco decided to disassociate himself from TZM on the basis of Ego after everything that Peter J and the people involved in TZM have done in getting The Venus Project known and throughout the world
slash4689 5 months ago
@slash4689 Hmmm. I did not know this. What is his reason, do you know?
honeymaru68 4 months ago
@slash4689 They are all shills anyway. I'm happy that the movement is failing due to petty infighting. Good riddance. It's just repackaged communism anyway.
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
@FitnessByMatt judging by your previous and current comments you haven't done your homework in regards to what an RBE is and what it stands for you're just trolling
slash4689 1 month ago
@slash4689 RBE has not, cannot, and will never work. If you attempt to force me and billions of other people into your system, it will create armed resistance. How does The Zeitgeist Movement expect to stop that other than to assume it will not happen?
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
@FitnessByMatt also if you haven't done so i humbly ask that you check out this book called THE FIRST CIVILIZATION by Jas Garcha it's available to download for free and explains what an RBE is and what it stands for
slash4689 1 month ago
Jacque is confused but he has valid points from a scientic materialistisk view point. But peter has metapsycial ideas about good and evil, and that all culture is brainwashing...a speciell duo indeed.
BlueFrog83 5 months ago
To Charlie Veitch:
1) Thank you for showing Fresco on camera and occasionally allowing him to speak. Those were the best parts of the interview.
2) In the future, kindly shut your fucking face, because nobody is interested in hearing the sound of your retarded voice.
Sidionian 6 months ago
@ 00:48 Jacque talks about his trip to India and says;
“…and the atmosphere was full of toxic materials, the water dirty, due to the fact that they don’t have the proper technology to help maintain cleanliness.”
I do not think that India is polluted because they do not have the proper technology to help maintain cleanliness.
India is polluted because Indians polluted it.
p3tr0114 6 months ago
@p3tr0114
Correction.
Indians did not pollute it as a whole. I think it would be better to say that the Indian people, under monetary rule, accidentally polluted their lands, because a system was imposed in which the said people had to conform to. The effect of industrial and commercial change in India was most likely the reason for the problems they face. For instance, they would have been very self sufficient before supermarkets and jobs were shipped over there.
One love x
YourUncleFrodo 5 months ago
@YourUncleFrodo They are doing much better with supermarkets and other examples of capitalism. That's why they are continuing to expand.
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
@p3tr0114 *Looks at the US and UK* Yeah, what idiots...
FALLASLEEPworld 5 months ago
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p3tr0114 6 months ago
Fresco is a fascist and Veitch is a plant. Read up on both of these fcukers before you follow them. Evil bastards!
guydecervens 6 months ago
@guydecervens How is Fresco a fascist? And all the stuff I've heard on Veitch is all speculation with no basis.
Wait, hang on...why don't we just watch the video?
FALLASLEEPworld 6 months ago 2
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YourUncleFrodo 5 months ago
holy crap seriously, jacque lost his train of thought lik 45 seconds into talking
dvzqz87 6 months ago
watch a pleasure to meet someone like Jacque, that would be pretty awesome.
mrzeroten 6 months ago
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I find it unfortunate that this cult harvests other people's ideas who have genuine motives for helping the world.
choobie12 7 months ago
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choobie12 7 months ago
zoom out dude
ottoequalslove 7 months ago 13
hey
Mr video man, this is way too much of a zoom. a talking head for 2 hours is just difficult to see.
superdiza 7 months ago
@superdiza Instead of watching...try listening.
mdlittle5466 7 months ago
I love Jacque Fresco - I'm not that keen on the Venus Cult but I think Fresco should be given a seat at the highest table of the house!
RichardPears 7 months ago
my two favorite rebels :)
MissDoloresD 7 months ago
disinfo-fest
kensei85 7 months ago
This is one deluded very dangerous guy!
FlashmoreGash 8 months ago
@FlashmoreGash Tell me about it. He wants a new language because the current ones are inefficient. Alright, so where is this new language?
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
people wouldn't watch boxing if they were educated? Thats fucking stupid, its highly technical sport that has some of the greatest athletes of all time.
coopmuch56 8 months ago
@coopmuch56
hehehe wow you'r so wrong' it has been proven that boxing can cause some serious brain damge to fighters and although watching two man kicking the shit of each other is cool calling that a sport is stupid
sayroni 8 months ago
@sayroni no what else causes brain damage? Football,hocket, baseball, skydiving, motocross, skateboarding, nascar, snowboarding .....etc......There is no better athlete then a boxer, the science of boxing is so technical so if you think boxing is nothing but idiots beating the shit out of eachother you're stupid and probably thinking of drunken street fights.
coopmuch56 8 months ago
@coopmuch56 No, agreed. It's highly technical. But the primary purpose is punching as hard as you can to knock the other guy out. And you know what that knockout is, right? It's punching and jolting the head so hard that the brain bounces around the the skull. None of the other sports you've mentioned are BUILT to do that. There are only mishaps. Sure there are also fighters who like to win on points, but do people go for that? No. They go to see Mike Tyson KO the other guy in the first round
FoieGras 7 months ago
@coopmuch56 true that,great sport---hahaha vitch is a shill and they stick together
humanswin 7 months ago
charlie you are one lucky bastard
חח צ'ארלי אני מקנא בך אחי
sayroni 8 months ago
Whenever you watch a recent jacques Fresco video...it is importnt to note that he is 95...although still a very cognitive man, he cannot articulate as well as he once could, and tends to get off point. But his work is there for us to discover and expand upon.
Shep11111 8 months ago 14
@Shep11111 yes absolutely.
MaradonaWasEmo 8 months ago
@Shep11111 for a 95 year old he is on the ball , i hope that if i ever make it to that age I will make it there in a good shape like him
SoldierCyfix 1 month ago
Wow he sure can go a while without blinking
mrgreenguy100 8 months ago in playlist Charlie Veitch interviews Jacque Fresco of The Venus Project
im sorry but nazis are not victims.. this guy is a nazi sympathizer
bluefly28 8 months ago in playlist Pensum
@bluefly28 How simple is your mind organized?
MegaGloton 8 months ago
how does charlie know this man???
bluefly28 8 months ago in playlist Pensum
wow you lucky man charlie, :) peace and love
chillbers 8 months ago
ungrateful egoistic control freak joke
hecq 8 months ago
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IdaSputum 9 months ago
Oh.. the good old days, when we could feed people to lions.. I would love to feed Zionists to lions.. pigs.. hehe that would serve them right.
skb0rzn 9 months ago
Charlie's 'living in the matrix' bullshit runs counter to everything Jaque Fresco stands for.
SoapClawtooth 9 months ago
I'd love to see 7 billion views on this!
progkibble 9 months ago
@progkibble my wish too
Naleon90 9 months ago
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InToonamIsLegacy 9 months ago
Morality has nothing to do with emotions, it's very rational and based on highter analytical conciousness, wich we still quite not understand yet. Even not armies of theologists.
Quex01 9 months ago
Jacque has very well thought out ideas! very intelligent! but he is not "in the system" in the same way Charlie is and we are.
TheTano5 9 months ago
That man has that twinkle in his eye of a hero...lol... we need a thousand more jacques!!
picante68 10 months ago
I'm sad because I discovered J. Fresco only recently, and the vast majority of his beliefs are in agreement with mine. What's also sad, is the fact that our Info outlets like TV, Radio, etc are feeding us JUNK while this brilliant mind is hidden to the world. I had to hear about him through a friend, than looked it up on the internet ! The internet is the most important INFO outlet at this time because is not yet fully regulated to fit any agenda. We will have to defend it with our lives !
mafiotzi 10 months ago
Boxing is logically brutal! Only brutal people enjoys BOXING
lsophial 10 months ago
charlie is a fucking tool
eggfleece 10 months ago
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eggfleece 10 months ago
Jacque Fresco is the profit of this time
NAZMY2003 10 months ago
@NAZMY2003 "the best money can buy"great book can get it for free jaques fresco wrote it so indeed the "profit"of this time lol
Katharsis540 10 months ago
@SW111SA wat isnt he telling?
mrchristian87 11 months ago
Jacque is a real inspiration for me. It is hard to tell, when you think "everything sucks" all the time and there comes such an inspiration like Roxanne and Jacque and actually so many other people who have the same thoughts like me come together and you see a big international movement coming together.
Well all I want to say is, I can see hope again :-)
MrSkyblueday 11 months ago
@MrSkyblueday That's exactly how I feel :) But I'm also more sad too because of how far we are from moving forward
stellar876 11 months ago
...Jacque is quite simply a natural person, he sat back one day, and looked at the human race and thought,...."Something is wrong" , we all know his thoughts, but never went further then he, on this scale of thought.
silversurferss7 11 months ago
Vive Jaque, our saviour?
nansir 11 months ago
Everybody loves Jacque. He does ramble on though, doesn't he? It's really good that he and Peter found each other. Jacque needed a real voice and Peter needed a real idea. They've gone from some guy who showed up once the local news and builds shit in his backyard and a radical 9/11 truth filmer to something that will without a doubt be in the history books.
cogitheum 1 year ago 51
@cogitheum he is not rambling. everything he is says is relevant to the questions
drummer1brt2gzs 11 months ago
@cogitheum He dosen't ramble on he just has an enormous amount of information that needs to get out! Besides theres no simple awnser- JF
TheMidwestsk8ter 11 months ago
@cogitheum You have too much faith in this cause. The science doesn't work. The logic doesn't make sense. Scarcity can't be eliminated and even if it could the idea that eliminating material scarcity (because that's all they address--they fail to consider other forms of scarcity) would eliminate the need for laws is tantamount to money buying happiness. And we all know money can't buy happiness. If this is in the history books it will only be as one more failed hippie commune.
jeffsgay 11 months ago
@jeffsgay thats alot of assumptions
dachozen109 11 months ago
@jeffsgay: Faith? Nobody said it would be perfect. In fact, we're very clear that it won't be. The question is, "would it be an improvement?" and it would be a great improvement. This is much needed, since if capitalism and nationalism continue for another 100 years, it's a pretty good bet that there won't be a human being alive in 200 years. We're talking about what is chiefly a material solution to material problems. It's not contradictory to non-material solutions to non-material ones.
cogitheum 11 months ago
@cogitheum Long gone--as the Zeitgeist Movement and The Venus Project split with no hope of reconciliation.
VenusFreedom777 10 months ago
@cogitheum TZM and TVP would definitely have been a wonderful combination, but I don´t know if you ´re aware of the recent events...The Venus Project people decided to detach themselves from The Zeitgeist movement on very weak and incorrect grounds. Roxane expressed that Peter wanted to "know more than Jacque" which is something that was never suggested. So now Peter dedicated hours to TVP in his films, TVP became widely known for that and now they move on. A wrong proceedings in my opinion.
flchange 9 months ago
@flchange I think so too. It was very sad for everyone when they split, it looks like over money to me. They awakened a lot of people, myself included. I don't really see either group as living very long independent of one another, but that's not the end of the world. They opened a lot of eyes, and not just to themselves, but to leftist and anarchist thought more generally, of which they were little more than a very well done summary with technocratic emphasis. Those people will stay awake.
cogitheum 9 months ago
@cogitheum they broke up i think
stalkingcat123 6 months ago
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newworldodour 5 months ago in playlist Charlie Veitch interviews Jacque Fresco of The Venus Project
@TheWantToExist Okay? You think this old mans got enough time to read youtube comments. lol.. hes out there enlightening the world.
SiYanara 1 year ago
"bi-sexual, tri-sexual, try-anything". LOL. that's a good one Jacque, i'm gonna use it.
B15h73k 1 year ago 3
@B15h73k haha nice one X_X
mastalp01 11 months ago
How much money must I pay to meet one of the greatest minds of the century and one of my biggest heroes.
frade001 1 year ago 36
@frade001 you can meet him dude, and you can tour the venus project, you'll have to go to florida, but i bet its worth the travel :)
TheNewAgeOfDubstep 1 year ago
@frade001 I don't think he's particularly interested in money..
myonlydanger 8 months ago
@frade001
make your way to Venus, Florida and pay $200 per person (or family unit)
Supra709 7 months ago
@frade001 Check this out.....thevenusproject com/en/get-involved/tours
annumVids 7 months ago
Some people are more susceptible to the ills of culture then others. My culture tells me to buy things that have no value, yet I know what I value and it's not things.
JRD123456 1 year ago
@devilsreject111 actually he's not friends with Rockefeller
failblorg 1 year ago
He said that we can't have languages that can be interpreted but wouldn't we lose sarcasm and metaphors if we only speak in a uniform way?
cakeatsnake68 1 year ago
@cakeatsnake68 sarcasm and metaphor wont exist in the future. those who use it will be considered permanent twits and then beaten with sticks.
failblorg 1 year ago
@failblorg
I admire Jaqcue very much but I do question him. An utopia is very impossible not matter how logical it sounds. Humans are too ignorant and willing to make mistakes over and over again. Being raised in a society that doesn't tell you to question your purpose and what you want, a society that throws things they think we want at us just fuels our ignorance even more so. That is why all I can see in our bleak future is death and war.
Perhaps I'm just cynical.
cakeatsnake68 1 year ago
@cakeatsnake68 Most of my own issues with TZM are due to the way its' followers behave, not the group's ideas themselves. Jaque's ideas are testable.
When he talks about environmental reclamation, for instance, you can look at what he has been able to do with his own property; and how well landscaped that is, as well as incorporating those domes.
I don't necessarily agree with all of his ideas about human nature, but a lot of what he talks about is very interesting.
petrus4 1 year ago
@cakeatsnake68 Another thing; I don't necessarily think an RBE is entirely possible, but I DO agree with Jaque that a much better world is possible, with the enlightened use of technology. The early Internet (and I mean pre-mainstream, when it was still a technocracy, not the largely centralised mess we have now) proved that. If people really want to make something that works, they can.
petrus4 1 year ago
@petrus4 designing an airplane was totally impossible in the early 1900's :). Once you remove special interest and money then anything is posssible :)
davidmthekidd 1 year ago
94 years old and still spreading the message across the planet. If this guy doesn't inspire you then no one can.
stratocaster1986able 1 year ago
What about the people who go against their environment and don't let themselves get permanently indoctrinated?
CFrostyTheSnowman 1 year ago
@CFrostyTheSnowman you're right. if we were only effected by our environment and the way we were brought up, as a society we would never change.
failblorg 1 year ago
fucking awesome charlie! fucking awesome!
nickinleeds 1 year ago 2
i think hes ideas is too far away from our time. This guy is genius, i think when we reach to this one day what he`s saying, then ppl start to think,ou this guy said everything right. Hes great thinker.
nitram716 1 year ago
The new film of Zeitgeist --- Zeitgeist: Moving Forward is almost online check it out at zeitgeistmovie com
K1fans 1 year ago
wow you are so lucky this man is a hope for our survial
cornishrob123 1 year ago
Most of the people in Nazi Germany who were against Hitler listened to Jazz Music which was forbidden (you got arrested for it) but to listen to it they needed to listen to British and American airwaves and picked up Allies Propaganda.... I agree with Jacques on this one but theres just some people who question things more than others.
haroldontherocks22 1 year ago
Its so for the animals also in india eg cows eating plasic bags, they dont hide their plastic under the ground there so there has been bits of plastic floating around there since it was invented, what a mess. having said this many Indians are spiritual millionairs but have no material posessions, many have no shoes but they don't want shoes
ahamatmabrahman 1 year ago
There should be a Jacque Fresco day!
Leofox94 1 year ago 2
@Leofox94 There is! Only it's called Z-day. It falls around Jacque's birthday every March. This year it will be occurring on the weekend of March 12-13 worldwide. Visit the website for The Zeitgeist Movement for more details and to see about events in your own area.
AquaticApe1 1 year ago
It's a shame that this man is sometimes labeled as a crackpot or a dreamer. He is a modern day genius and he is getting older. He advocates for a better society for all mankind regardless of national affiliation. He holds over a hundred patents that have benefited society. People get so upset when he voices an idea that is contrary to their own. They immediately go on the defensive without even considering the validity of his idea. We need more people that think like him and only want whats best
n2nin 1 year ago
@sexyyuan
WORSE they give donations and they make lots of cash on books and lectures (memorized bull crap and lie stories to hide it is all EPCOT) Then the old Roxanne Meadows comes and ask for funds.. a Movie? made free! models? No need of donation from you they are rich! Movie to explain flaws become advertising and major motion picture is done with common cams like the cannon pen. Research center? NEVER! It is 100% EPCOT stolen and so can't be built on this planet without permission!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
he's 95 in march... I don't have much time to meet him... :(
neo92vip 1 year ago
@neo92vip
You will be very disapointed like all the others... he was a fak fraud all along and has nothing to offer that we do not have better today and can build legal UNLIKR HIS that is stolen from EPCOT and can't be built same as it was in 1975 76 77 78 79 80....2011 He can't build a research center/tourist trap... that was EPCOT and so are all the things he claims for his city and RBE does not exist it is NON MONETARY SYSTEM and the promise of the Bible... they have lied to make donations
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock hmm did you reply to every comment on this video ?:P anyway, I agree with what he says in the 1th part of this video. I havent seen the whole interview
neo92vip 1 year ago
he's always repeating himself
4Brownie4 1 year ago
@4Brownie4 he wants to drill in his key points. LOTS OF PEOPLE DO THIS to get their message across & it works.
depro9 1 year ago
@depro9
No he is making points that are not his and promote a placing of TVP and TZM over the Bible itself as he satanically hate it all publicly. He hate Disney because they own his TVP concept that he copied from Theist to attack the Theist and bible with as a satanist. he lied his life by reversing all his mistakes with lie stories he has flaws you can prove are lies in all of them. he is rich and asked donations for 35 and had no use of the money or cause to use it HE KNEW it was stealing!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@4Brownie4 ehm, his 95 years old. Life weights...
gasto5 1 year ago
@4Brownie4
Ya he repeats the same CON of lies people complain about since 1975 and when asked questions he reverts to that memorized crap people complain about since the 1975 start! Why did you copy EPCOT?... he walks away! Why did you just change NON MONETARY SYSTEM/ (planet) to a non loical wording like RBE that points to HUMANS as the resource and resourful then want no humans to work and replace them with robots to protect the CITY of evil YOU bought HER as TVP single owner FOR NO REASON!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
does anybody know what camera he uses?
UniversalOrganism 1 year ago
@UniversalOrganism
cannon pen borrowed from member
They used to use a simple cam of the computer for the other movies....cast is all friends and no money what so ever was used...but the donation Box is active for all them things they can't buid or have no reson to build like Z land for it be to steal donations to build anywhere but cyberspace...but the perfect circular city is here from JESUS and his glory is hidden by fools playing in his king seat promoting WAR to RBE.
Click on my name...
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
I'd say he get's annoyed with all the tons of interviews he's asked to do...all his answers are the same because he is just reinforcing his point all the time..he prob has it learned to a tee like a script haha
ivannagib 1 year ago
Whitless, go get a life. You mental midget.
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konkluser 1 year ago
dude,i can't believe how this video just has 13k views,it's unbelievable,justin bieber and that shit over there, has 1 million per day,So it means how stupid is actually our society.
YeahhDoIT 1 year ago
@YeahhDoIT
it is because most people know he is a lying con man all his life that lid all his life to you and all his skills and all his work places.. to let you know he was a con and passing TVp was just another con of his to steal donation and have victims say they are not victims... it is the old HOLLYWOOD MOVIE INVESTMENT SCAM and they ask for donations to make movies that are free same as the motion picture they boast now is FREE made as a con to get more donations as members leave them
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@YeahhDoIT Naaah, I think that kid you mentioned gets so many views because a lot of them are fans, and others are there to deride him.
gasto5 1 year ago
DO YOUR RESEARCH.... AND BE AWARE.... THOSE WHO SAY THEY WANT GOOD FOR YOU BUT ASK YOU TO FUND IT.... ARE IN NEED OF BEING TRULY QUESTIONED.... JACQUE IS CORRECT THAT THEIR IS MUCH NON FREEDOM... BUT THAT IS DUE TO THE CURRENT ORDER ... THE ORDER THEY ARE CREATING IS FOR A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.... BE CAREFUL...
carolinagsings77 1 year ago
@carolinagsings77 those who say they want for you but ask you to fund it--you just described every institution that man has created from the beginning of time.
VenusFreedom777 1 year ago
@VenusFreedom777 - hahaha very true.... I've been searching deeper as always, and holding tight to my fiking sanity.... this shiet just keeps gettin crazy the further down you go ya know.... anyhow... the suggestions for the future as presented by Jacque do have a great deal of goodness to them... I feel however, that they presented step 10... and now we need to take step one and on to get to this possible place of a society shaped by us.... common people...
carolinagsings77 1 year ago
@carolinagsings77 yeah--no I think I understand what you are saying--I think I do--the idea that has been put forth is the first step being taking an assessment (thru a computer that can perform the task) of the earth's resources--the train of thought is that we can't get much done until we take that first step;)
VenusFreedom777 1 year ago
@VenusFreedom777 - Im not sure if VP has the ability to do such a thing... with each country .. permission I mean...
I was leaning toward the sovereign mevement and the common law principles... but they all are quite tricky and seem to be gettin folks locked up... so... ill just focus on what i know i have the ability to do... sing, dance and create music.... I want to help the world... perhaps this is my only option...
Anywhoo... take care.... : )
nice corresponding with ya
carolinagsings77 1 year ago
@carolinagsings77
It is the most insulting MONKEY choice possible.... gee I will do exactly what my ancestord did... dance like fools sing like fools and make music like fools because they were so small minded it was the best they could come up with ...they at least were not saying they were going to serve mankind that way... they did it for free and fun for themselves! it is a shame you choose to lower your sights from saving mankind to acting like an ape and call that help. GO PLANT SEEDS!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@VenusFreedom777
ARE YOU AN IDIOT?
we did all that long ago! JAcques fresco is a nut case that think we are still in 1939 and need sensors to watch water levels and calculate plaet resources you know dam well are known! How the heck do you think we fin oil and gold and search other planet for? We are not TVP dummies!
WTF do you think the WEB is if not the central computer of the planet? Are you a child? You fall for the most easy traps of con people after donations and Fight the Church of jesus
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@carolinagsings77
all th good comes from the Bible and all the rest the con job to fake it is not stolen from there but comes from him and that after a life of crime he is like Jesus ..that is how low this monster is!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock The bible was written by men with prejudices and biases it is not the word of God. The bible is subject to interpretation.
binslick 1 year ago 2
@binslick
idiot the Bible is made to stop stories from getting out of hand and hold the secret of how to build perfect cities from the ARK to ARK cities the whole Bible is justified and YOU are exposed as prejudice and vanity too vain to learn thing from the scripture and so vain and evil you chose to follow other things than the GOOD and so feel the need to protect evil... a pawn made to be used by evil same as usual.
The cure is here... it is a city better than all other to copy...repent!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
Respond to this video...
actually you are slave in his world and the only free people are called SURVEYORS that as you see have the nice houses and lands and all that..the others live in slave apartments and have no freedom and just more of the troubles you see in apartments now that when confronted with he never once in 35 years had a solutions and is asking others to solve it free for him and solve the impossible to solve problems he fakes don't exist!
he lies so much!!!!!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@carolinagsings77
YA!
Just obey the city i give you and build that... it is 1000 fold more logical and wise than all others as end result of all curcular cites possible for mankind...the CHURCH OF JESUS and his ARK CITIES are here. They are PLUG AND USE so super versatile and functional to transit from MONETARY to NON MONETARY Planet in peace and remove all YOU don't like to enter your city copy. UTOPIA for all! The promise of the scriptures is passing RIGHT NOW! Learn ark cities
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@carolinagsings77
JACQUES IS EXPOSED AS A CON MAN ALL HIS LIFE AND TVP A PLOY TO STEAL DONATION AND THE CHURCH OF JESUS PHYSICAL FROM PROPHECY TOO DO IT... the thief even changed all his life in lies from his racist fist 40 years of life as kkk and other racist groups to pretend he is like Jesus and and prophecy was Atheist... this man is the low of the low satanic crook con man stealing donations he never needed and still after 35 years not one dime was used on the project to prove it!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@carolinagsings77
He want you to buy his paid concubine a city
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock - hahahaha.... that one was kinda funny : )
carolinagsings77 1 year ago
@carolinagsings77 I agree with you, they shouldn´t ask for donations, when, clearly, money can´t solve the monetary-to-RBE shift. But calling them New World Order is too much. They have good intentions, but they still haven´t figured out how to organize it and achieve their goals. That´s up to the Zeitgeist movement and the individuals of this planet.
gasto5 1 year ago
@gasto5 - New World Order is to me... the order that has always been in position... what we have and still live under... However, with new understandings that come daily, new insights that happen hourly and constant self evaluation, Ive come to see that none of it really matters in the sense that we will be and live as we choose to... I wanted to change things for along time, but now... I am in it, but not of it... I have a choice to watch TV, or eat what I eat, or think what I think.
carolinagsings77 1 year ago
He looks like a monkey
socialanxietysucks 1 year ago
@socialanxietysucks
he sure steal and lies like one...oh ya moneys are better than him! they do not steal from the Bible and then attack the bible to hide where it he stole it... he hates the Bible because he stole from it the whole TVP concept to fight it.....gee can you say SATANIST?
who offered you the perfect city to save mankind? Jesus or jacques Fresco? he just admited his Hitler like domination plans when pushed on the radio! Exposed himself on THE EDGE.
TVP command the world! SO RUN!!!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock You are delusional. Stop smoking that sht. It harms your brain.
gasto5 1 year ago
@gasto5 How come you can't find the difference of TVP research city and EPCOT? How come all the stuff that has any sense of Jacques freco is copied from Disney land? How come he wound up with the land and donation money as well as the buildings his last group of members do not have today! How come his SOCIOCYBERNEERING INC project just became his love nest project? and why do they ask donations when they make a fortune on books and speeches at over 10,000 a shot! WHY buy HER a CITY?
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
Man this guy thinks like me, its amazing. I always say don't judge people because you havn't walked in their shoes and I also say if we would educate are kids in a perfect way we would be able to create a generation of progress if however we keep educating them the way we do now with our own limitations we will keep producing damaged little individuals. A kid is a sensitive little creature and most people don't understand that, if you yell or show something shocking it will effect him for ever.
colloredbrothers 1 year ago
@colloredbrothers
Ya but he is a SATANIST that is LYING all his life and jobs and events as no one you know would change all they did in life for lies! Then he claims the Bible prophecy as from TVP and copied it all!!!! NOW he claims the future of mankind is saved by TVP not the Bible he got it all from and claimed as from HIM just as the Bible say he would and BURN for it in eternity in the records of History as we start to burn him now never shall he stop burning!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
words cannot describe my discovery of this man and his ideals. I share his ideals.
PinkneysDefiant 1 year ago
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Juefawn 1 year ago
@gblake32 Thinking you are better and being better are different? We seem to have fallen into a trap of words, my argument is essentialy algebreic in nature, the words may as well be x's and y's. What im trying to convey is that ideas of morality, better or worse lives, good and evil people, right and wrong... they are all a matter of perspective, and being as we cannot agree on them, as Jaque says; we aught not to cast judgement based on those grounds, But I am sure you allready understand this
tr0ybear 1 year ago
@sexyyuan I (as in ME) would define nature/ natural as anything that exists.. just because something is man made, that doesnt make it unnatural.. if we as an animal are part of nature/ a natural occurance, then anything we do or create is natural, no?
its allmost a redundant word, its like the word 'real', even something 'imaginary' can have an actual effect on the 'real' world, so is it not 'real'?... this all comes down again to the lack of definite definitions for our terms.
tr0ybear 1 year ago
@tr0ybear you made a great point with our language in this statement, that i fully agree with.
gblake32 1 year ago
a wise guy who speaks from the heart! he should be a man to be remembered by his words and his knowledge :)
SartaiChono 1 year ago
@SartaiChono
YES his 11 year olf child IQ and his ability to blantantly steal from extremely well known things like DISNEY LAND and the E.P.C.O.T. 1939 world fair, manly P Hall, Ebenezer Howard and all the history of THEIST and the Scripture teachings and secrets of the great prophecy of the perfect template city all can copy to make all equals and unify the planet with no more money or politics because of how it works THE CHURCH OF JESUS ITSELF! COME! Come learn at Peter whitlock channel
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@sexyyuan What proof do you have to show that 'human nature' deserves to be 'believe[d] in'? As Jacque says, if you were born and raised an Amazonian head-hunter, you would see nothing wrong with walking around with heads strapped to your waist... You are a product of your environment and your experiences, 'Nature' appears to have next to nothing to do with it.. please reply.
tr0ybear 1 year ago
@tr0ybear dont you believe that even though we are a product of our environment that somewhere in our spirit rests a strength in state of mind that we can veer from that culture and system we were brought up in? depending on the extremities of course.
gblake32 1 year ago
@gblake32 your wishes or 'will' to veer from your culture could be explained as a result of your perceptions, your experiences... for instance, you may become aware of something hypocrytical in your culture, and previous experience/ learnt behaiviour will cause you to be opposed to something hypocrytical, so you appear to have done something out of the ordinary, when in actual fact it is an inescapable logical conclusion to the experience you underwent.
tr0ybear 1 year ago