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  • I've rolled with both. Both are great BJJ guys. Interestingly, both call their Jiu-jitsu by a name other than BJJ, Gracie JJ, or Machado JJ, but their systems are... BJJ with an emphasis on THEIR favorite moves. bjjspokane. com

  • not eddie bravo btw

  • @TheShanebuchman Someone edited the match incorrectly, the blonde guy was a totally different match. The guy wearing head gear is Eddie and he will tell you so himself!.

  • I always thought Camarillo was a lot bigger than Bravo... Anybody know if this is an absolute match?

  • @kamikazefighta When I started competing in JiuJitsu I was a lot lighter.  I was walking around 160lbs. This match was in our own weight division. I am now 175.

  • epic fuckin music!!  i like! :D

  • thumbs down for music

  • "This is the first amv I've ever made with windows movie maker"? where is the anime bro?

  • I couldn't watch any further due to the music, ah well.

  • All I see is a couple of butt scooters. Funny these guys don't mind talkin trash to other butt scooters but as soon as Steven Segal challenges them to a fight they all run for the hills.

  • THE ONLY THING THAT EDDIE CAN PUT UNDER HIS BELT IS HE DEFEATED ROYLER.... LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE DONE ALSO BUT EDDEI CAPITALIZE ON IT AND STARTED SPREADING BULLSHIT

  • i dont know eddie did beat gracie

  • @FILTHYPAKI wow! you have a real issue going on! did your parents hit you? do they love you? I mean you are so full of hate. WHY?!?!?!?!?!

  • @FILTHYPAKI i have seen this comment on more than one bravo vid so wats your deal did eddie steal your girl or you met him and he hurt your feelings which i doubt so how bout you get a damn life and stop messing with one of the best BJJ fighters of all time.

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  • Is Eddie Phenominal yes. Great teacher..one of the best ever. The greatest... NO.. if we are talking about guys now a days,then we have to mention the likes of Marcello Garcia,Roger Gracie,Riberio,DrysDale,Jacare­,Galvao. Those are what we call Greatest...  - Eddie is one of my heroes also just gotta throw that in there ha, not hating.

  • @amato2 drysdale is overrated.. popovic is really good

  • I dont know who edited this video.. The only guy that is Eddie is the guy wearing the Head gear. I fought him right after he beat our top blue belt at the time. But it is Eddie, he will tell you himself.

  • This was like a gay porno!!!!

  • @weedpussymoney321 How do you know what "gay porno" even looks like? hummm

  • @weedpussymoney321 You see gay porn often then huh?

  • @lolocaust15 every day man!

  • XD Thats not Eddie Bravo dude.

  • eddie bravo has blonde hair? just cause someone rolls with headgear doesnt make them eddie bravo

  • @bigsexypanda

    @21sec mark onward its bravo

  • I wouldnt say Marcelo's technique is unmatched..if it was then he would have beaten Roger..Marcelo is amazing, but Roger is the best..theres a reason why Roger has not been submitted since he was a blue belt

  • @xymaster19 There's also a reason Marcelo has never been beaten by anyone of his own size, yet Roger has lost a number of times to people smaller than him. Marcelo's technique is superior. Roger's long arms and legs are the problem for Marcelo, not technique or ability.

  • @CantBeShook last time i checked Roger has lost only a couple of times and they were all by advantages or points, and they were all by Elite grapplers in his own weight category, these same people he lost too also beat Garcia via submission...the proof is evident Roger Gracie track record speaks for himself hes better and if im not mistaken Fernando Augusto subbed Garcia via triangle and hes only 165..maybe he has long legs too?

  • fred etish is the best of all times I would say with kei

    th hackney in a close second.

  • eddie owns camarillo

  • thats not eddie bravo lol

  • @nkyryry

    yes it is. look at his face when he's on the ground. then look at the back of his gi and then the back of his gi at the end of the video. it's a different fellow.

  • @nkyryry yes, it is.

  • Roger gracie is the best ever! 14 world championships....the bar is set! marcelo is 2nd.

  • @Rapidmeat

    Marcelo Garcia is the best ever. Then Xande,

  • I would love to see them go again now

    gi or no gi

    whateva

  • Long-life to Rickson Gracie!!!

  • kkbighead - i stand corrected you are 100% percent right. it was a tremendous throw in its own right.

  • I know his son muahahaha

  • @yourname60 wow grats, i'm sure you're the only one in the world to know his son, muahahaha.

  • @waldomarek hyaha i wish

  • that was an awsome uchimata worthy of koga that one

  • @davetherave6724 Koga doesn't use Uchimata. Maybe you mean Inoue?

  • I was like "holy shit EB can do hip throws"...and then I read the description.

    Cool video anyway though.

  • Every single video of eddie bravo has him jumping or pulling someone in his guard. How bout you learn some takedowns. People who jump to gaurd hold jiu jitsu back as far as takedowns and throws are concerned. Look at roger gracie Thats how jiu jitsu should look.

  • Whatever mate. There's nothing wrong with pulling guard. It's easy for some internet punk to say 'Learn some takedowns' but when your facing world class grapplers it's not as easy as that is it dumbass?

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  • @JoeRice "Theres nothing wrong with pulling guard." Thats just what people who are to LAZY to learn throws say. All im trying to say is BJJ could be a more effective martial art if its praticiners practiced just a little more standup and didn't ruin competition by always jumping to guard.

  • It's not lazy. If you have a killer guard, then what's wrong with jumping and pulling someone into it? That's the very definition of effectiveness. Next you'll be saying no-gi grappling is just for people too lazy to learn how to use a gi. It's bullshit. If it works, use it. Keep that stupid trash to yourself.

  • @JoeRice now your just putting words in my mouth i never said anything about gi or nogi. I just think that jumping to guard in a jiu jitsu match might work but in a real fight jumping to guard is fucking stupid.

  • @charliemurphyslaw Does that look like a real fight to you? And if it WS a real fight, the last thing you want to be doing is rolling around on the floor so his buddy can come and stamp your face in. This is a competition dude and pulling guard is a perfectly viable technique, especially when you have a guard like Eddies!

  • @JoeRice were just guna have to agree to disagree. You jump to guard and ill learn throws.

  • @charliemurphyslaw im going to have to agree with u, if some one holds a black belt in bjj they should be as conformable standing as they are on the ground im not saying coz of Eddie but it should be for all black belts in bjj

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  • Weird how that looks NOTHING like Eddie B... get this fake shit off youtube

  • the second guy is.

  • The first match with the Uchimata throw to the armbar is not Eddie. The second match is Eddie. I believe Eddie even included this match on his Twister DVD.

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  • :D looks just like him to me.. helmet, patch and all.

  • eddie bravo's shtick is no-gi

  • he got his black belt in gi bjj

  • who gives a shit?

  • It's ridiculous to say that Camarillo was "just a blue belt", because he was already a national judo competitor and a black belt in judo for many years....he grew up with it since childhood in a judo family. The grappling is extremely similar to BJJ and the basic techniques identical with a few exceptions. The main difference is the rules.

  • dude have you ever sparred with a judo black belt? my buddy rolls with me once a week he's a second degree black belt and wa a junior level national champ, yes sure a lot of the basics are similair but the premise whereby they operate is Completely different..

  • Really? Im only a blue belt in BJJ with 3 years of NOGI and roll with a 7th degree Judo black belt almost every morning. I roll right through him, the ground game between BJJ and Judo is widely gapped.

  • @deadline0602 Actually, in the Cesar/Ralph Gracie academy at the time I started training, even with all that mat experience I had from Judo, I was about even with their top Blue Belts. I would get tapped from them, time to time! So, yes, I was a blue in mat work.. I did lose my first JiuJitsu tournament, my every first match by 2 points... The techniques are not identical, close, but not identical and a lot of the Judo, after realizing, actually has bad habits for jiujitsu.

  • @armhunter Wow, thanks for the reply. I am a fan of yours. Thanks for the insight into your training and experience. At my judo club we do lots of ground work and since my comment I've come to realize that many judo clubs don't get as much ground work as mine.

    Thanks again.

  • @deadline0602 not really judo only allows 15 seconds of ground fighting that is in no way similiar to bjj.

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  • Eddie bravo will not say "I invented it" he will always say that he just turned it into a system and made a bunch of legit setups that to this day are growing and changing.

    That is the only difference.

    10thPJJ focuses on growing and making NoGi more exciting and more technical

    Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is what you need to know either way, some guys like Gi even though they compete NoGi.

    Whatever, my point being Eddie deserves respect for what he has done.

    Saying rubber guard isn't used is... crazy...

  • That is Eddie Bravo, and he admitted to losing this match on a victory belt radio discussion.

    They were blue belts, I could go back in time and beat them as they were in this video.

  • no you couldn't... Camarillo was still a judo black belt

  • well wait, what BJJ belt are you? If you're still a blue then you can't say with any certainty that you're better now then they were then, these guys went on to become top black belts in America, I'm sure they were pretty fucking good fro bluebelts Also the Judo black belt is a detail that needed to be known as well as the fact, if you're a blue

  • Hmm... so still a white? Interesting, and a 19 yr old judo Black belt... still even more interesting... Roy harris is a lagit teacher Congrats on that but it's still very presumptuous to say you could take them as a 19 yr old white... i'm a 21 yr old four stripe blue and i'm not saying anything of the sort...

  • Whats up with Dan's red belt? Is that for Guerilla Jiu Jitsu?

  • they make you wear that for the ref and judges

  • lol what an idiot, this guys trying to promote camarillo jiu jitsu by saying dave beat bravo. Thats not even bravo in the video

  • lol that's not eddie.

  • that dose not look like eddie. not that it isnt

  • that cant be eddie because ive heard of eddie and i have never heard of some guy named dave ever beating eddie , eddie is the best bjj guy ever because i heard joe rogan say it and we all know that joe rogan know's what he talks about , but seriously dave camarillo is a badass , he would whoop josh thompson , john fitch , mike swick etc on the ground it was crazy watching him roll

  • the name listed is dan, not dave. having trouble with elementary grammar. i kno its tough when daddy beats u all the time.

    rogan never said bravo was the best. he just said that he thinks bjj is going to evolve it rubber guard. i agree on the sole fact that i have rolled with some rubber guard players and it is totally different

  • Rubber guard is not magic. It is just another aspect to the bottom game. I roll with guys that school me with it, and I have rolled with guys who use it and get crushed. It is an addition to your game, not the entirety of your game. You better have solid fundamentals no matter what game you play. I don't play closed guard that much so rubber guard doesn't really work for me.

  • I hate when people think a "new" guard game is all they have to use. You have to have a well rounded closed guard and open guard if your going to use rubber, X, spider, and be good at them. What if you roll with a guy thats Amazing at defending X guard but sucks in closed guard? You have to add on to the basics not know a bunch of fancy moves and suck at the fundamentals. Thanks Jonobos!

  • @Boltz87 All of the "advanced" material is based on the same body mechanics as the fundamentals anyway. You will be much better served understanding the core concepts than spending time on some exotic game or technique. The art evolves and there are always new details, but I have not really seen anything "new" since I started paying attention to the basic concepts instead of thinking in terms of technique. Most sweeps function the same as a basic scissor sweep in terms of body mechanics :P

  • you really feel that eddie is the BEST BJJ GUY EVER? eddie is very good but by no means the best ever

  • @memento18poker

    Memento is right!

    Marcelo Garcia is the greatest BJJ guy ever ;)

  • @memento18poker Eddie is the most creative BJJ guy ever and as a trainer he might be the best, but Marcelo Garcia is the best ever.

  • @CantBeShook Roger Gracie would be my pick for best ever. Beat Jacare and Marcelo Garcia. As for trainers, it all depends on your personality and the personality of the trainer. Eddie seems like a nice guy, the people who train with him are lucky

  • @memento18poker Roger Gracie weighed 227lbs when he fought Marcelo Garcia who was 161. I don't think it's fair to compare based on a head to head. Roger is a great grappler, but for me, he's not as good as Marcelo or Xande Ribiero. He's also not as good as Rickson.

  • @CantBeShook well either you're talking about who is the better grappler, or who is the better grappler pound for pound.

  • @memento18poker same thing. when discussing people in different weight classes you have to go pound for pound. If you want to basis on their performances against people in their own weight classes, then Marcelo wins by miles and miles.

  • @CantBeShook I disagree, although I love Marcelo Garcia, hes one of my favourite grapplers of all time, Roger is the king of Jiu Jitsu right now, Garcia has fought many larger opponents than Roger, in an interview he even admits that its not Rogers size thats the problem, its that his technique is so refined, in my eyes it goes Roger, Marcelo and then a tie between Jacare and Xande

  • @xymaster19 Marcelo saying something doesn't make it true. he's not going to come out and openly say "I can't deal with Roger because he's so much bigger than me. I don't know many people that Marcelo has faced that are 6'4 and 220. He might have faced heavier guys but nobody with Roger's length. Marcelo's technique is insane, and unmatched. I can see the argument for Roger based on the success he's had but for me, Marcelo and Xande are both better than Roger.

  • @CantBeShook Marcelo is amazing true, but Roger has unstoppable Jiu Jitsu..Roger has not been submitted since he was a blue belt, Roger is not flashy hes all about the basics and his basics are so solid, Roger has a kind of BJJ that you know what hes going to do against you, but even with you knowing..you can't do anything about it hes still going to choke you out, Garcia's technique is insane true, but I wouldnt say its unmatched

  • @memento18poker i am a huge eddie bravo fan but he aint the best ever. he's def my top 3 tho. he is innovative and openminded and thats something i respect, like Marcelo and Royler (even tho Royler is from the old school lol). Marc Laimon for instance thinks he's a know it all

  • @memento18poker Hes not a BJJ guy at all he's 10th Planet

  • @trabideau He's a black belt under Jean Jacques Machado. 

  • @memento18poker EDDIE doesn't even think he's the best BJJ guy ever.

  • @travesham true, i mean listen to the way he was talking about marcelo garcia

  • @memento18poker eddie is certainly the best at thinking outside the box

  • @poganla123 while smoking weed

  • @poganla123 Look, I got no problem with Eddie. But to say he is the best at thinking outside the box is silly. You think he developed all 10th planet system from his head? Ever watch Eddie's teacher JJ Machado?

  • @gutshot26 yh of course ive seen jean jacques i still occasionally train with him, jean has no flexibility watsoever but he is one of the best ever jean uses most of the traditional form of jiu jitsu but is sweeps from half guard and butterfly guard are secound to none but the 10th planet system is definately made up by eddie bravo and some of his students like sean bollinger and denny. even j j machado calls it eddie's system all the time

  • @gutshot26 If you read Eddie's first book he fully credits Jean Machado for paving the way to what eventually became his 10th Planet system. Since Jean has no fingers on one hand he had to learn to compete without being able to grab the Gi. When Eddie approached Jean about his ideas Jean was encouraging and ultimately helped Eddie develop his techniques until Eddie got tot he point of developing his system on his own. Eddie acknowledges that without Jean there would be no 10th Planet system.

  • @memento18poker agree - not even top 100 as a competitor

  • @memento18poker who is? i'm just interested in the info. do you know?

  • @DroppinKnowledge69 I don't have much time to follow the sport these days so maybe someone can chip in with a suggestion, but i'd say the best are Roger Gracie, Jacare and Marcello Garcia. There are other phenomenal grapplers out there, but those three are the 'holy trinity'

  • @memento18poker ya i did a little research. sounds like roger gracie is the dude

  • @memento18poker I think Shinya Aoki and Demian Maya are worth mentioning aswell. :)

  • @memento18poker Depends what you think "the best ever" is. Is the best the guy that has the most skill and wins the most in a bunch of tourneys? Or is he the guy that grows the sport to a MONUMENTAL level and makes it understandable to the western world, and evolves a whole part of BJJ designed specifically for No-Gi that becomes an art. That's up to perspective

  • @VomitShovel eddie didn't grow bjj to a monumental level, never made it understandable for the westerm world, and he doens't even teach bjj.. no 10th planet guy has ever even been successful at the black belt level. bjj was around in the western world long before eddie bravo was even born. and his art is supposed to be for nogi and mma, yet no one in the ufc or a premier mma organization has ever finished an opponent from the rubber guard. the rubber guard is something eddie used to make money.

  • @carlsongracieteam THANKYOU!!! If I make a chair the way everyone else makes a chair but instead of calling it "making a chair" I decide to give each and every step in the process a stupid name like "Chillidog to vampire apocolypse to mission impossible and finish with frosty boy." I'm still just making a chair. Furthermore, if there are other people who don't use my "system" and they can make better chairs than I can- where's my big success? My success is in making money by selling bullshit.

  • @Z6R exactly people say he is an innovator.. no he is doing the same thing jj machado and nino schembri did just with different names lol.

  • @carlsongracieteam Wow, because Nino Shembri totally invented rubber guard and the entire system with it. Read just one just ONE of Eddie Bravo's books and show me what he took from Nino. If he ripped of Shembri and JJ Machado like you say, show me some video online of this, there is hours of Nino video rolling and competing. Nino discovered the gogoplata, wow, cograts, he was an amazing grappler but did not invent rubber guard and systemize it like Eddie. Do not be so ignorant of facts.

  • @boredomkillerz dude im a gi guy mainly, i do no gi once in a while, but you are right. iv trained with eddie once and he is a cool human. people fear change, and no where can u find nino using da rubber gaurd like eddie.

  • @Z6R No one does Brazilian Jiu Jitsu like 10th Planet, stop hating because your system cannot evolve.

  • @boredomkillerz no one does bjj? cobrinha? roger gracie? jt torres? anderson silva? gsp? big nog? lil nog? rickson gracie? jacare? renato sobral? bj penn? mark bocek? thiago alves? cain velasquez? junior dos santos? overeem? jon fitch? demian maia? eddie bravo? your right. absolutely no body except every adcc champion, every nogi world champion, nearly every mma champion does bjj. you have never stepped on the mat.

  • @carlsongracieteam

    You are a god damn asshole, learn to read before you start talking shit, when he said that no one does BJJ like 10th planet, he's not saying that NO ONE DOES IT, he's refering to the fact that no one does it with the particular style of BJJ that 10th planet has.

  • @changoooo123 10th planet doesnt do bjj so your the ass hole they do 10th planet jiu jitsu, theirs japanese jiu jitsu, guerilla jiu jitsu, bjj, 10th planet jj, lots of jiu jitsu, people associate 10thplanet with bjj when their 2 different systems so your the uneducated ass hole, you couldn't step up to me with a latter so sit son, cause your my bitch thanks.

  • @carlsongracieteam

    Seriously?

    Its the same fucking thing the only thing that changes are the names that they give, most of the techniques are the same you moron.

    10th planet jiu jitsu is a style of BJJ not a whole different thing, could you please stop?

  • @changoooo123 i see this stupid STUPID carlosgracieteam guy on almost every eddie bravo video talking shit, the guy is a fucking retard that thinks he know bjj and yet he says eddie sucks, any smart dude that knows bjj knows who the machodo brothers are and knows that eddie is a blackbelt under them therefore making eddie bravo LEGIT. so just try and ignore him because thats what you do to retards.

  • @boredomkillerz Mate, BJJ is BJJ. 10th Planet isn't an evolution, it's a different approach. Wow, he "invented" the rubber gaurd. Who gives a shit? Its a guard, not kryptonite. I'm not denying that he's an innovator but when are you 10th Planet boys going to start backing up these claims of global domination? We don't fear change, we just don't agree that Eddie Bravo is the Jesus of Jiu Jitsu. He's a prophet, he's not the saviour. Get over it.

  • @Z6R I dont ever recall someone saying that perhaps you should read his books or watch even one of his dvds where he fully credits everyone he learned the techniques from, that said he is a huge innovator and he gets massive hate for simply saying that the gi sucks dick when you arent even going to use it in MMA.

  • @boredomkillerz Mate, I'm not here saying that Eddie is a fraud. That he's stolen someone else's material. My problem is with the attitude that he spreads and it's evident in your last comment. Saying that the Gi sucks because you'll never use it in MMA? Eddie's philosophy only works for certain people and only focusses on one tiny aspect of Jiu Jitsu. Even in nogi and MMA his system has only had limited success- you all act like he invented the blowjob or something.

  • @Z6R How long has karate, boxing, and kickboxing been around? few hundred years plus. How long has freestyle wrestling been around? 100years plus. How long has Brazilian Jiu Jitsu been around? Around 80years. How long has 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu been employed in mma? 3 years maybe. Let's give his system the same amount of time as Gracie Jiu Jitsu and see where it stands. I started training traditional jits and still use traditional guard all the time, but lets not be niave about the future.

  • @boredomkillerz ok mate. You win. 10th Planet is the most amazing thing that has ever happened in the history of anything. It'll redefine MMA and cure cancer. Just promise me one thing. When Eddie Bravo becomes the Supreme Emperor of Awesome and all of us unworthy mortals are called before the 10th Planet Brotherhood for judgement- just remember that I lay prostrate before your awesome intellect and wit and show me mercy. Peace out.

  • @Z6R Mercy is shown;)

  • @Z6R bhaha totally true mate

  • @carlsongracieteam "no 10th planet guy has ever been succesful at the black belt level" ever heard of the 2008 Mundial Champion and 10th planet Black Belt Denny Prokopos? The same guy that will tear it up at Abu Dhabi 2011? Change your screename, it is disgraceful to Carlson Gracie to be so damn ignorant of history and facts. Do some research.

  • @boredomkillerz actually i never said nino invented the rubber guard. he did the same things with the high guard as eddie just with different names, and yes he invented the omoplata and gogo plata. watch his matches he grabs his foot in the high guard just like "mission control" and their are interviews where eddie bravo himself credits jj machado for his system, since jj played a high guard. he obviously couldn't grab peoples collars because of his hand. learn some facts.

  • rickson gracie is the best jiujitsu fighter ever...not eddie.

  • that was like 4 oldschool sweeps

  • the ref isnt even looking?!

  • The guy who gets tapped last and the blonde guy are not the same guy, look at the logos on their gi's similar but definitely different

  • lol good find, a poor attempt at negging Eddie

  • Hey, I'm not trying to be a dick or anything but that blonde guy is definitely not Eddie, not because he has blonde hair, I could believe that, but if you look close at the guy's face or freeze it you can see it's definitely not Eddie.

  • blazinbleezies, did you not see the part where he says: "The first guy isn't Eddie Bravo, the second guy in the headgear is."

  • i believe blazinbabies was talking about the guy at the end...not the first guy. the guy at the end with the blonde hair is not eddie bravo. if this video really has eddie in it, then he is prolly th e 2nd guy out of the 3.

  • I agree. That's not Eddie at all.

  • Eddie Bravo's not even in this video

  • Eddie is the guy at the end wearing the collegiate wrestling head gear with the blond hair who gets tapped out.

  • You sure?

  • I thought Eddie doesn't were the gi. What year was this video shot?

  • Eddie got his black belt in June 2003 under Jean Jacques Machado. That's the year he created his 10th Planet style of Jiu-Jitsu. So this was sometime before 2003.

  • I was the guy getting thrown! Didn't know what hit me. I felt better when i saw him sweep the rest of the division, including Eddie. Great technician.

  • LOL

    You can tell it's WAY early - maybe blue belt years - for Eddie.

    He got Old School down (The half guard sweep) but he didn't have the twister yet.

    His game sucked back then.

  • bra that's the only grappling move had any concept of and that's how he got the name. he couldn't establish the truck after hitting the old school i'm assuming that was the issue.

    The only thing eddie really knew at the time was the twister(wrestler's guillontine) that's what his issue was.

  • damm so did eddie lose that fight??from armbar?

  • cool video...crappy music

  • i have a ? to all of you i have been boxing since i was 11 years old and i just started to do BJJ has any of you ever been in a street fight and used this stuff if so let me know what happend

  • people that are uneducated with BJJ will give up their back when you go down to the ground with them, and usually end up getting choked. the last 2 street fights i've been in since i started jiujitus ended the same way

  • street fighting WOOOOW thats a real challenge.

  • anything can happen in an actual fight. The tried and tested method for winning fights is firing off the first punch and not stopping till they are out or until u can get away. if it ever does go to the ground you dont want to be there for long and you want to stick to basics, and get back up as fast as possible. bjj will help you be confident on the ground but you shouldnt use it as your first defence, punch them first

  • Th last 4 time's I was in a fight (mind you I was very inexperienced at the time and had no formal training) my opponents didn't know anything about grappling and they just walked or rolled into submissions or gave me an opportunity to sweep them once I took them to or ended up on the ground. It was to easy and I'm primarily a striker. I'm not saying this to make myself out to a badass I'm just trying to explain that if you know a small amount of grappling, you can dominate your opponent.

  • The last 3 fights I have got in my ass in to after I joined the Army and doing 3years of Army cambatives and getting into BJJ the person did not know what happened until it was over you are right they gave up rear mounts and mounts way to easy and I just pounded away,and that is how it ends but I used the basics not a Omoplata,just the basics.

  • dont get me wrong tho, I love No-Gi and im actually probably better without the gi.

    we should just agree that its better to train both, considering we dont know how an opponent will be dressed

  • I agree, Randy Couture said that you can do alot of the same things with a jacket as you can with a Gi. It wouldn't be that big of a astretch to imagine using a coat, a hoodie or even a sweatshirt to the same effect. Bas Rutten teaches how to choke someone with a t-shirt. I think if you have the knowledge and the control Gi techniques can work in real world application.....but what di I know I'm just a bear.

  • eddie bravo would lose regardless of where dave is.

  • Yeah Idk why you're saying he'll lose regardless. Bravo is a master and revolutionary, he has brought jiu-jitsu to new heights, Camarillo is an excellent player as well, but don't even try to hate on Eddie, you can't hate on someone who wants to expand the traditional concept of jiu-jitsu and make it as accessible as possible, while consistently being able to tap world-reknowned jiu-jitsu players with moves he made up. No-gi is more realistic and that is Eddie's forte

  • people like you are why i hate eddie bravo.

    1. He has tapped ONLY 1 world reknowned competitor, and that was royler gracie. Ive been told by 2 seperate people that saw, that he got embarassed in NY by joe scarola.

    2. He invented nothing he used in his match against royler.

    and no gi is not more realistic. Your telling me if someone attacks you they are gonna come with no shirt and no pants on? righttt...

    All No-Gi is better for is mma

  • Yeah try to hold on to someone with a T-shirt as if they had a gi, street clothes are closer to no clothes than to a gi. Go ahead and hate on Eddie Bravo, stick to your limited game. People are like you are going to get left in the dust as MMA and jiu-jitsu inevitably evolve

  • Actually T-Shirts can choke someone out. Don't forget sweaters, jackets and jeans/cargo shorts. They can be used as a gi as well. Not hating on anyone, just saying it's possible. I'm a Bravo and Camarillo bros fan too.

    My favorite flow sequnce is. New York-Chill Dog-Invisible Collar-Jiu-Claw

  • your retarded, I use rubber guard all the time. and yea so many people just were a t-shirt on the streets, especially in new york were i live, at this time of the year. Eddie bravo did not invent rubberguard, and everything he has invented is pretty much useless. When was the last time you saw use the rubix cube or thereaper in any type of fight.

    good game, but you got pwnt

  • He even claims that most of his stuff has been around for a while, its the way he gets there that is cutting edge.

  • I love both no-gi and gi. Sorry to say, I've been in a streetfight using my groundwork and ripped the guy's shirt off trying to keep control. Sorry you dont have that one.

  • and ive also been in a fight and choked a guy unconscious with a leather jacket, whats your point.

    however, your view on eddie bravo is quite reasonable, its more his fans stupidity that drives me to hate him

  • I hear you, he's not God.

  • I know Eddie tapped Royce and then got run over by Leo Vieira. What other world renowned players has Eddie tapped consistently? (And he tapped Royce once, is that really consistently?)

  • Just a heads up. It was Royler. Eddie tapped Royler. Not Royce.

  • Bravo is doing for BJJ what the Gracies did for Judo!

  • i might be wrong but was that camrillo thrwoing i know he has a black belt in JUDO (the best form of grappling) but can eddie bravo throw

  • Saying any martial art is the best form of whatever is ignorant. BJJ enthusiasts would disagree with you. Truth is the best form is practiced by the student who works the hardest and learns the most. There are bjj fighters who would kill some judo fighters and in turn lose to others, and vice versa.