@PUNKem733 dude...really? jordan is the great player of all time...but vince is the best dunker of all time. go watch some video man, only power? are you kkkiiidddiiinnggg? his 360 windmill combined both grace, unparalleled body control AND power, same with his in-game dunks
i disagree with him being the best dunker of all time. Blake Griffin is rising to that spot with immense authority. i'll never forget Vince jumping over that 7 footer in the olympics. but its not even halfway into the season yet and blake has some of the most insane dunks for someone in their rookie year
VC is my favorite player and it makes me sad sometimes that he ain't getting further in his career i think if he had the hunger that Kobe's has to be the best he might probably be the same level as him coz i remember the time when they used to be the same level
I said sumfing similar vc and tmac both have the skils but lack the heart dey fuked up vc had a big chance especially during 2005-6 were dey lose 2 cleveland i mean jason kidd vc, and richard jefferson , i fink vince can get to the finals wid dis magic team
@frederlk Vince has...or had, one of the quickest first steps ever. yes bad defense, but it doesn't matter he would have dunked over everyone just like he always did.
vince carter is not even half of what he used to be. those knee injuries he suffered just took alot from his game. he was an above the rim type player. not even lebron james could jump as high or higher than vince in his prime. there was a time when vince carter was the most popular player in the nba and probably in the world.
Ya for like 2 years it was like that, i remeber. But half of what he used to be, i dont know. He still gets up better then Kobe, i just dont think he wanted to be the best, like MJ, and Kobe wanted to be the best.
yeah you're right. besides the knee injuries he suffered, i don't think he had the will, drive or hunger to be the best player in the league. he even said he used to take a few nights off when he played for the raptors.
Because he never played for a championship team. Look at his stats last year, and now he is playing for a team he wants to play for. I see see a big season for vc.
I dont think he gets higher than Kobe no more. Back then he did but not anymore. I remember when Vince would shit on anyone. Yeah you see dunks of Lebron dnking on guys but these dudes he dunks on are wack. Vince would dunk on legends like Ewing, Mutumbo and so many great defenders.
Just watch video from last season, trust me he gets up higher then Kobe, its apparent. And Legends like Mutumbo and Ewing who were at the end of there careers, specially Ewing.
BS, I remember when he dunked on Mutumbo and Vince was still playing for the Raptors. Mutumbo was still owing dudes back then, hey he still was with the rockets.
did you see his off the backboard windmill from the UNC charity game last month? He still dunks better than most of the league when he wants, and that would include kobe
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I don't think so,if you'd swap those 2 players Miami would be better with James,and Cleveland is better with him than they would be with Wade;simple as that......
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Can't stand VC. I'm not a Raptors fan but I love basketball. VC said he was done with dunking back when he wouldn't try to play well so he could get out of his contract. He might have talent but he has no heart and is not a professional. No class whatsoever.
It was a joke when he said he was through with dunking. Obviously, you have no sense of humor or you're just an asshole. Second, vince is a class act and probably has more class than any other player in the league and is a true professional.
Man what happend to VC ... why isn´t he dunkin like he used to do before ..is it all the injuries that keeps him from jumpin high like before or what?
yeah he is 32 or 33 .. still at that age your able to slam the ball hard.. im not saying like before at his younger days ..shiiieett hehehe those where the days Vincanity!!!
That's the 1st thing I thought when I seen this,that building is dead & 2010 can't come fast enough! They need to get a star in there to get the fans amped up again!!! LOL
Vince Carter isn't the best dunker in the NBA anymore fam. It's not about showing off,because there are many times when he gets shots contested & rejected in the paint that wouldn't happen otherwise if he were to dunk the ball. Injuries have taken a toll on his body,& while he still has some hops, to say that VC is still the best dunker in the NBA is atrocious. LeBron is the obvious choice, but I wouldn't go there;there are young ballers in the NBA who can jump out the gym who I'd rank higher...
No fam, you misunderstood what I said: "LeBron is the obvious choice" because 4 out of 5 casual NBA viewers think LeBron is the next best thing as far as dunkers are concerned. While I really don't care enough 2 make out a list of young athletic dunkers, I'm a little biased, because my favorite team is my hometown 76ers; so naturally I think Andre Iguodala is among the elite young dunkers out there-(He should've won it in '06, he was ripped off when they gave it 2 Nate Robinson) He was robbed...
At this point in their careers,I say that Devin Harris is the best player on the Nets. VC is entering the twilight of his career & I wouldn't say he's finished,but his best years are clearly behind him. Devin Harris is just getting started; while Dallas chose 2 trade him 4 one of the best PG's in history-(J.Kidd),Devin has emerged as one of the best young guards in this league-(Who do you think got the better of the Kidd,Harris trade now?) I don't think Mark Cuban would answer that question.....
the fact is that when comparing dunkers in their prime, VC is the greatest of all time. anyone who argues against that is just a fucking twat who doesnt know jack. and when i say all time, i mean all-fucking-time. ever since the fucking game of basketball was fucking invented you hear me.
lol, when you find a video of jordan or erving doing a 360 reverse windmill, a 360 alley-oop tomahawk, or a dunk in play over a 7 footer let me know you fucking hack
I agree with you but i disagree with you, back then was a different era...the whole game has changed dribbling, defense just to name a few. Thats like saying a #1 movie in the box office now is better than a #1 in the 80's. you cant combine era's.
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Vince Carter!!!!
LittleFundamental 1 month ago
he only does not have, the WILL to win.. wasted talent
Bayzky 7 months ago
@Bayzky Who we talkin bout now. Not VC.....
kacidel5 3 weeks ago
@kacidel5 ???
Bayzky 3 weeks ago
IMO Jordan, Carter and Kemp are the best dunkers. They could make the crowd on road games go nuts with their highlights
IceRice3000 7 months ago
I Hate it when i see a Brian scalabrine comment . He's still a NBA player and im sure that your not better than him.
KAnZAkiNanAmi 8 months ago
@TheBallerDM237 VC better dunker than both.
Steezy00CoD 9 months ago
Did you see, VC ??? Love the speaker...
JJyuza 9 months ago 2
r u guys joking? VC is the best dunker of all time. No one throws it down like him. No one finishes a dunk more gracefully than Vince.
LaileB22 10 months ago
@Waffle0813 Yes. he has a higher vert, and he has some of the most graceful dunks. Carter only has power.
PUNKem733 10 months ago
@PUNKem733 dude...really? jordan is the great player of all time...but vince is the best dunker of all time. go watch some video man, only power? are you kkkiiidddiiinnggg? his 360 windmill combined both grace, unparalleled body control AND power, same with his in-game dunks
Steezy00CoD 9 months ago
Carter the second best dunker ever, Jordan will always be numero uno.
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shastabolicious8 8 months ago
self proclaimed no 1
scarycatsscaringcats 11 months ago
There is only 1 best dunker ever, and thats Shawn Kemp!
Orchas 11 months ago 2
i disagree with him being the best dunker of all time. Blake Griffin is rising to that spot with immense authority. i'll never forget Vince jumping over that 7 footer in the olympics. but its not even halfway into the season yet and blake has some of the most insane dunks for someone in their rookie year
KingVictorious27 1 year ago
Wtf was up with the Celtics? LOL
DeathPenguin1000 1 year ago
I used to go to the park on the weekends to watch him posterize people.
kiddboo84 1 year ago
Celtic Player: "Is That Vince Carter....I Ain't Gaurding Him."
Celtics Player #2:" Me Niether".
Celtic Player: "Let's get em after he scores"
Zemmo123456 1 year ago
did u see? VC
andrewloveandrew 1 year ago
VC has been my favourite player ever since 00 dunk contest, just wish he did more of these nowadays..
Thoeby 1 year ago
DID YOU SEE VC ?
kevindgreat3315 1 year ago
imagine shawn kemp, shaq(Magic), Vinsanity, Dominique, and Kobe(#8) on the same team.
kingshunmo 1 year ago
@kingshunmo tmac in his prime over kobe any day
tykve 1 year ago
@tykve bad thing tracy couldn't guard scalabrine.
derrickrose96 1 year ago
The only one ever reaching Shawn Kemp's league.
Best in game dunkers ever. Imagine them both in one team BWAHAHAHA! xD
megatroll 1 year ago
@FREEDOM23100 That's cool if you talk like that in real life but don't make a douche of yourself and type that way on the internet
blackhonkie 1 year ago
man Lebron is the best dunker but he still sucks in front of the black mamba KOBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BRYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAANNNTTTTT!!!!!!!!!
farid5060 1 year ago
@farid5060 u suck much more, just look at urself hating on nba players while siting in front of the pc acting tough
hanprider 1 year ago 4
did you see, VC???
anttrap321 1 year ago
best dunker! period.
strikername 1 year ago
Wonder how many dunks of the night this guy has lol
Skipz338 2 years ago 4
I like when Vince has his headband off. You know it he's doin work when he takes it off.
TLan14 2 years ago 4
NO D!!
Alex0Iverson 2 years ago
bad d
RobinsonForMVP 2 years ago
VC is my favorite player and it makes me sad sometimes that he ain't getting further in his career i think if he had the hunger that Kobe's has to be the best he might probably be the same level as him coz i remember the time when they used to be the same level
WBHustlas 2 years ago 7
I said sumfing similar vc and tmac both have the skils but lack the heart dey fuked up vc had a big chance especially during 2005-6 were dey lose 2 cleveland i mean jason kidd vc, and richard jefferson , i fink vince can get to the finals wid dis magic team
FREEDOM23100 2 years ago
really bad defense by celtics there
frederlk 2 years ago 50
@frederlk Vince has...or had, one of the quickest first steps ever. yes bad defense, but it doesn't matter he would have dunked over everyone just like he always did.
sarvelaj 1 year ago 2
That guy sounds funny when he goes "DID YOU SEE? VC??"
ButtaScotchBoy 2 years ago 9
Ok First Off DEFINETLY DI NOT DUNK ON THE CELTICS HE DUNK DURING THE CELTICS GAME NOT ON THE CELTICS O
JK!!!!
LMAO
GOOD DUNK
PrettieBoiMilla 2 years ago 3
HE DIdNT EVEN TRY
DUNKOFDEATH34 2 years ago 4
celtics should work on that same thing lebron did to them and they had garnett.
sithaphong 2 years ago
that day was my birthday, too bad i missed that dunk
ltachi526 2 years ago
seems*
AloyLaptop 2 years ago
lol it seemed like he dint even try hard for this..
AloyLaptop 2 years ago
its too easy for him
saiteris 2 years ago 5
take ur middle finger and put on ur nose.
2.say a name of someone u like.
3.that person will ask u out or say they love u tomarrow.
4. heres the thing copy and paste to 2 other vids
captquigmire455 2 years ago
vince carter is not even half of what he used to be. those knee injuries he suffered just took alot from his game. he was an above the rim type player. not even lebron james could jump as high or higher than vince in his prime. there was a time when vince carter was the most popular player in the nba and probably in the world.
kanguesso 2 years ago 11
Ya for like 2 years it was like that, i remeber. But half of what he used to be, i dont know. He still gets up better then Kobe, i just dont think he wanted to be the best, like MJ, and Kobe wanted to be the best.
pacifront83 2 years ago 2
yeah you're right. besides the knee injuries he suffered, i don't think he had the will, drive or hunger to be the best player in the league. he even said he used to take a few nights off when he played for the raptors.
kanguesso 2 years ago 2
Because he never played for a championship team. Look at his stats last year, and now he is playing for a team he wants to play for. I see see a big season for vc.
thatsagoodvid 2 years ago
I dont think he gets higher than Kobe no more. Back then he did but not anymore. I remember when Vince would shit on anyone. Yeah you see dunks of Lebron dnking on guys but these dudes he dunks on are wack. Vince would dunk on legends like Ewing, Mutumbo and so many great defenders.
BIGAIRLIKE23 2 years ago 3
Just watch video from last season, trust me he gets up higher then Kobe, its apparent. And Legends like Mutumbo and Ewing who were at the end of there careers, specially Ewing.
pacifront83 2 years ago
BS, I remember when he dunked on Mutumbo and Vince was still playing for the Raptors. Mutumbo was still owing dudes back then, hey he still was with the rockets.
BIGAIRLIKE23 2 years ago
did you see his off the backboard windmill from the UNC charity game last month? He still dunks better than most of the league when he wants, and that would include kobe
donttalkbacktome 2 years ago 12
yeah thats my idol vince carter
kingsuckz 2 years ago
VC!
airr916 2 years ago
and we're ready for take-off................
bloccbully 2 years ago
He was the best dunker,He is the best dunker and He will be the best dunker in NBA history!
Obi226 2 years ago 76
@Obi226
NBA HISTORY!!!!!!! followed by Shawn Kemp in his prime....
T74G 1 year ago
@Obi226 UNTIL BLAKE GRIFFIN ARRIVED
okcrep1986 1 year ago
@okcrep1986 look at vids of vince when he was younger
JomoGingo 1 year ago
@Obi226 better than dominique ???
bloodforgodz 1 year ago
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@Obi226 "He was the best dunker,He is the best dunker and He will be the best dunker in NBA history!" your comment should have twice as many likes, but Blake Griffin disliked it 44 times.
reversethecurse246 11 months ago
@Obi226 Dominique Wilkins Was The Best Dunker In NBA History
joseeeee12 7 months ago
@joseeeee12 noooo vc got his ass any day
kobe4270 7 months ago
vince carter is the best dunker in the nba but doesnt have many fans bcuz he is old
gigsternaterer 2 years ago 15
vc too good for yall
jason0813 2 years ago 6
half man half amazing
ampay4 2 years ago 11
damn he was in the air for a cool second
Popeyes00 2 years ago
devin harris is a beast
jaysparxxxx 2 years ago
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give each team 100 points and let them play 2 minutes. watching a full game of basketball is almost as bad as watching nascar. lets see how many nerds will downrate this comment
macabreneco 2 years ago
best dunker ....WAS da best dunker n da nba
dogdayz113 2 years ago 3
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vince cartar is the biggest pussy in the nba today
Konner69 2 years ago
lebron , wade and chris paul are the best players in the nba
joel03allen 2 years ago
Lol CP3 is good, but not the best player in the NBA.
Lebron, no.
Wade I can agree with.
SekaizZ 2 years ago
hahahha you think wade can even TOUCH lebron?
fallingwalls1 2 years ago
As a matter of fact, yes.
Wade has been having a monster season against great teams, leading his team into over .500
Lebron isn't doing much.
1 on 1, I'll take Wade.
Teamwise, Cavs.
SekaizZ 2 years ago 2
I don't think so,if you'd swap those 2 players Miami would be better with James,and Cleveland is better with him than they would be with Wade;simple as that......
Jumpman0818 2 years ago
vince is better than jordan what are you smokin?
KenyonMartin4Life 2 years ago 2
and kobe
ultimatesupremedrago 2 years ago 2
vince is better than jordan
remy5858 2 years ago
man lay off the crack.
glgnichole 2 years ago
LOL.
SekaizZ 2 years ago
D-Wade is best in the BiZ.
theartsofebony 2 years ago 2
VC FUH LIFE!!!!!..
vepulan7 2 years ago
that was horrible deffense lol wtf
wifey4lifey101 2 years ago
defensive team my sweaty white ass
iSmith024 2 years ago
even the announcer said no one steps across to stop him lmao hahaha loser get outa here
wifey4lifey101 2 years ago
they all got scared
WBHustlas 2 years ago 8
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Can't stand VC. I'm not a Raptors fan but I love basketball. VC said he was done with dunking back when he wouldn't try to play well so he could get out of his contract. He might have talent but he has no heart and is not a professional. No class whatsoever.
medhatalberta 2 years ago
You obviously know nothing about the man's personality.
Jnewms24 2 years ago
It was a joke when he said he was through with dunking. Obviously, you have no sense of humor or you're just an asshole. Second, vince is a class act and probably has more class than any other player in the league and is a true professional.
Neptunz05 2 years ago
not special at all.
4153448 2 years ago
did you see...vc
streetwallcar 2 years ago
damn he looked like he was gliding
tik153 2 years ago 2
lmao the good ol' "did you see... VC?!"
Ueki0507 2 years ago
He still has it
joseefu 2 years ago
i like how they name the vid w/ "the celtics" and not one player
jonnycokes04 2 years ago
Did you see VC!?
TyranoBeefCakeX 2 years ago
Vince Carter is crazy!
fryboy715 2 years ago
clean
H2T 2 years ago
no dis respect to vince but he blew by the defense and had a wide open look so not really on the celtics
YungKhmerBoy206 2 years ago 2
Yeah Hes Probley just taking it easy after all these years it kinda get to you...
DJKingSick 2 years ago 3
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
did u see VCeee! hahahaaha
monster dunk and monster night 34pts.
XxCallmeChamp10nxX 2 years ago
Nice takeoff, soft dunk.
mattsum41 2 years ago
what was the final score??
Bo0gA1a23 2 years ago
celtics won i forgot the score but the truth came up big down the strech so did ray allen
rSeAvEy95 2 years ago
115 to 111
cochoso107 2 years ago
115 to 111 celtics
cochoso107 2 years ago
Vince still got the old ups, he jumped from rite outside the paint, most NBA playerz still cant do tht
dashytube004 2 years ago
lol carter isnt underated
hes the best in game dunker in history
ccchrv 2 years ago
So Freshhh So CLeannnnn
JLTRAIN233 2 years ago
that's vinsanity
davidisai19 2 years ago 2
Celtics were not even trying there
hamid954 2 years ago
No they shouldn't, takes too long to load.
kerpail 2 years ago
still got it
CDkrisp 2 years ago
Vince Carter is the definition of overrated.
hustlercuz 2 years ago
How the hell is he overrated, he gets criticized by everybody.
Neptunz05 2 years ago
he's so 5 years ago...
hustlercuz 2 years ago
he definatly isn't overrated, he's underrated. based on what he does for the nets, people should notice him more.
dmonee123456 2 years ago 4
new jersey 27-34......OVERRATED
hustlercuz 2 years ago
hell yeah! VC OWNS!!!!!!!!!!!
Exarion1117 2 years ago
too bad they let this one go.... his three pointer towards the end was tight.... in your face style.
elbigjim 2 years ago
vc are my idol!
is te best dunker on da planet!
Nachogorro 2 years ago
Man what happend to VC ... why isn´t he dunkin like he used to do before ..is it all the injuries that keeps him from jumpin high like before or what?
kamkam127 2 years ago
hes 33 years old now buddy.
RBGdUP 2 years ago
He's 32
Neptunz05 2 years ago
yeah he is 32 or 33 .. still at that age your able to slam the ball hard.. im not saying like before at his younger days ..shiiieett hehehe those where the days Vincanity!!!
kamkam127 2 years ago
poor vc. im dreadin the days when he wont be able to dunk at all. :(
theserenitynow 2 years ago
what pisses me off the most is that players still laugh and smile after they loose.. they know they are getting paid big that they dont really care.
also lawrence frank should be fired..seriously and Yi should be traded
Atoweha 2 years ago
34 pionts!
YsovanderMeer 2 years ago
Hm... no help defense on that play, but Celtics won.
TeoJordanGR 2 years ago
mike taylor dunk was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better
zenu16 2 years ago
dat aint hot...lol
iFlyboy02 2 years ago
dunk of the night are you kidding me, didnt you see mike taylor's dunk too?
clazier 2 years ago 2
he was haier
Tommmaaah 2 years ago
lmao DID YOU SEE, VC?
larry89 2 years ago
normal dunk...
megidoflare 2 years ago
hahah i saw vcccccccccc
lilbeast19 2 years ago
man that building is dead!
Sanctum85 2 years ago
That's the 1st thing I thought when I seen this,that building is dead & 2010 can't come fast enough! They need to get a star in there to get the fans amped up again!!! LOL
str8philly 2 years ago
I don't know man...i'm a knick fan and MSG is always loud specially when we boo em but we havent had to do that since isaiah lol...
Sanctum85 2 years ago
did you see, VC
wenchmariano 2 years ago 2
Vince carter still is the best dunker in the NBA, he just doesn't like to show it off as much as lebron.
jedidude75 2 years ago
Vince Carter isn't the best dunker in the NBA anymore fam. It's not about showing off,because there are many times when he gets shots contested & rejected in the paint that wouldn't happen otherwise if he were to dunk the ball. Injuries have taken a toll on his body,& while he still has some hops, to say that VC is still the best dunker in the NBA is atrocious. LeBron is the obvious choice, but I wouldn't go there;there are young ballers in the NBA who can jump out the gym who I'd rank higher...
str8philly 2 years ago
I was going with what you said...UNTIL YOU SAID LEBRON........JESUS!!!
krayzie11 2 years ago
No fam, you misunderstood what I said: "LeBron is the obvious choice" because 4 out of 5 casual NBA viewers think LeBron is the next best thing as far as dunkers are concerned. While I really don't care enough 2 make out a list of young athletic dunkers, I'm a little biased, because my favorite team is my hometown 76ers; so naturally I think Andre Iguodala is among the elite young dunkers out there-(He should've won it in '06, he was ripped off when they gave it 2 Nate Robinson) He was robbed...
str8philly 2 years ago
yes indeed he was
yahschild87 2 years ago
wilkins, erving and jordan were the greatest
JappY06 2 years ago
whoever says Devin Harris is the best player on the nets, you are sadly mistaken
altair117x 2 years ago
At this point in their careers,I say that Devin Harris is the best player on the Nets. VC is entering the twilight of his career & I wouldn't say he's finished,but his best years are clearly behind him. Devin Harris is just getting started; while Dallas chose 2 trade him 4 one of the best PG's in history-(J.Kidd),Devin has emerged as one of the best young guards in this league-(Who do you think got the better of the Kidd,Harris trade now?) I don't think Mark Cuban would answer that question.....
str8philly 2 years ago
that dunk was too easy for him.
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BasketballShots 2 years ago
the fact is that when comparing dunkers in their prime, VC is the greatest of all time. anyone who argues against that is just a fucking twat who doesnt know jack. and when i say all time, i mean all-fucking-time. ever since the fucking game of basketball was fucking invented you hear me.
airdulf 2 years ago 5
shut the fuck up. erving,wilkins and jordan was better and even lebron is better.
Seed1992 2 years ago
i give you erving and jordan... but wilkins? no thanks
lilaznballaz1022 2 years ago
lol, when you find a video of jordan or erving doing a 360 reverse windmill, a 360 alley-oop tomahawk, or a dunk in play over a 7 footer let me know you fucking hack
airdulf 2 years ago 2
you're SO right ..
in all their primes, VC is the greatest of all time, when it comes down to dunking .. "
miXn 2 years ago
YES SIR!
natemup 2 years ago
I agree with you but i disagree with you, back then was a different era...the whole game has changed dribbling, defense just to name a few. Thats like saying a #1 movie in the box office now is better than a #1 in the 80's. you cant combine era's.
krayzie11 2 years ago
lol the PA announcer "did you see, VC?"
MaxHuang24 2 years ago
VC Is the best dunker of all time I BELIEVE !
vu0ngster 2 years ago 10
VC.....
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DynamicImpulse 2 years ago
awesome, vc is the best
Roboturner2113 2 years ago
blah!
LaKeRs24BiTCH 2 years ago
nice one VC
Moe499 2 years ago
bezveze
Hrvoje1313 2 years ago
i miss him mannnnn lol
Migvill 2 years ago
did u see? did u see?
johnjohn0701 2 years ago
that was nice, but in his prime that was a windmill or a 360
mysonnewow 2 years ago 3
hes too old now to do something fancy
1337MangoX 2 years ago
he wouldve double clutched reversed that 8 years ago
IamHaddy 2 years ago 4
exactly
DynamicImpulse 2 years ago
where's the defense?
hamtotem 2 years ago
Ha! Just standing around looking dumb and confounded, while Carter lays up the jam.
lildwayne21 2 years ago
sadly the NBA removed defense from the game
krayzie11 2 years ago 3
i so agree with you
blurrg1 2 years ago