not once in all the talk was there any credit given to the Alien's that truly gave modern man the ability. Yet every bibical text, every old document suggest this. Religion was no swindle, it was a way for ancient man to understand it. We are so full of it we cannot even look at the fact without distortion. Sad. Very sad.
@lefayad1991 was that some sort o joke? honestly, I didnt get it if thats what you mean't? Alls I was trying to say was the E.T's have been here far longer than modern man. So n easy hypothesis is that Ancient Man thought of them asGod(s) in every single ancient text thats what they are reffered to as...
@CapnDumpsterDiver Easy to say, but - proof, evidence.... You can't use scripture books for the same reasons that Christians cannot use them to validate their own belief. As of yet, there is no hard proof of aliens. Do I personally believe that aliens exists somewhere out there? The numbers are too absurd not to, But that doesn't mean that they have been to our planet in any sense.
Yeah, but religion is hard to pinpoint. It's not just an explanation of the universe. It has to do with human interactions, morals, the society, not to mention psychological needs and uncertainteis. They say religion is in a sense hard-wired into our brains, that it is part of our evolutionary baggage. Religion operates on so many levels.
There will come the time for every man in which his beliefs cannot survive. What every man must do is make the decision to abandon his beliefs, lose his identity, and gain a new one or make a stand where he will reject the words of others no matter their power. Men of religion and men of no religion will all meet such a challenge. What happens is up to you. Simply remember that, "It is not strange to mistake change for progress."(Graham McNeil)
at 01:13-01:17 the clouds are formed in ALLAH's name. You all got the truth in front of you, but you don't wanna believe. I was atheist 2 years ago, but the sience brought me to Islam and now i'm free! Check out the wonders in the holly Quran. If you got a functional mind ask yourself how this wonders could be written over 1400 years ago! Till your death you got the time to think about it. If you don't do so it’s all your own fault.
@MrHe4degg wow idiot alert. I highly doubt you were an atheist and all your claims about god or Allah have no evidence whatsoever. Not surprising that there is no scientific papers coming out of the Islamic countries for over 1000 years.The quran fails at morality and proves it wasn't written by any god. have a nice day deluded one
The way you present your argument can be taken that humanity as a whole is better than any of the gods or we are the gods themselves in action. I completely agree. Humanity as a whole, for all its good and bad is better than any god ever created. Humanity is more powerful than those gods. Why? Not because we are all knowing, all powerful, or eternal, but because we can accomplish so much with so with so little power, knowledge, and such short lives. Humanity has already gone beyond any gods.
@bayouboyy exactly. We are all capable in so much and the fact that our knowledge transcends generations so that we can accomplish more is remarkable in and of itself. We are such a remarkable species and the fact that we attribute our greatness to false gods is insulting to our species.
Concerning your questions about information this should answer them: /watch?v=hu3HqSB4Its
Also a GOD figure is an unfalsifiable hypothesis, but the judeo-christian, muslim etc.. god is because we know facts about them which have been disproved. I suggest you research the subject on youtube as many youtubers have explained this (theamazing atheist made one good video about this i think).
Will Humans ever Move Forward & Achieve : Immortality, Telekinesis, Telepathy, Precognition, True Empathy, Claircognizance, Teleportation, Invisibility, Invincibility, Holodecks, Replicators, Human Flight, Cellular Regeneration, Technopathy, Eidetic Memory, Psychometry, Empathic Mimicry, Super Hearing & Intelligence, X-Ray Vision, Time Manipulation, Time Travel, Faster Than Light Speed Travel, Wormhole Travel, Traveling Different Dimensions & Becoming a Type I, Type II than Type III Civilization
@halcyon0830 For energy: Because the earth has a lot of it, and it produces a LOT of energy easely.
And btw humans have already achieved (well started working, and mostly at a very low level but it's just the beggining): telepathy (kinda, still working on that), teleportation (with subatomic particules), invisibility (using something with waves bending light) and many other things but my messages would be too long. I suggest you do research as it's not hard finding answers to your questions. :/
It's NOT Religion, it's from making religion INTO A business that you can profit from, the problem in this world IS BOUNDLESS HUMAN GREED AND SELFISHNESS AND COMPLETE DISCONNECTION FROM ALL OTHER LIVING THINGS. People can use Atheism or Environmentalism or Capitalism or Charity or Defense or ANYTHING to do EVIL if they have NOTHING BUT GREED IN THEIR HEARTS. Humans who LOSE morals, ethics, faith in themselves, compassion, humanity, and gain pure greed, fear, hate, lies, bigotry WILL DESTROY 24/7
religion = elitist slavery. this set belief system imprisons people into extreme conditioning. It divides humanity when we are one with the universe. Our energies should be united with a free flowing system that endorses positive actions.
Christianity is a lot more than belief and non-belief. If it was just that then what would be the point in any of it? Anyone could simply say "I believe" and be considered a Christian. No, it's much more than that. It's having the consciousness to know that what you do unconsciously and physically everyday can and will affect this world or Universe. How can you prove that it won't? We simply can't, but just saying that it's bullshit doesn't anymore prove that it won't than saying it will.
So very well said. My favorite part is how religion holds people back based on superstitions that came about when man's greatest technological invention was the plow.
I think it is opposite, religion does not say we are unique or somehow blessed.
in fact it says we are all cursed worthless insignificant and no better than trash and we must praise god for letting us to exist even if we have no right to be here.
all attempts to bring humanity above trash can is mercilessly squashed by religion which immediately reminds not to try to play god and be in the place you deserve to be.
What can explain the creation of information then? In order to prove that there isn't a GOD, one must know everything? Can you claim to know everything there is to know? We as mankind know as much a four year knows where they came before they are told where they come from. Thank you for your opinion, but, come back when you have enough facts that you discovered on your own without relying on what others say.
@kenyon4us lol, another example of a theist placing the burden of proof on the non-believers. You have not proven god exists SO the default position is atheism.
@lefayad1991 the default position is NON, not atheism. For those never exposed to theism, their position is NON. They must be included in the discussion to have a position otherwise by either stumbling onto the concept on their own or being introduced to it by someone else.
A rock, a toilet seat, a baby= all NON-theists.
Non-theism= atheism the same way non-symmetrical= asymmetrical. They don't. So tired of this flawed logic from "weak atheists". Weak is right, weak minded.
@todocambiara2 I just love how the if you look it up in a thesaurus asymmetrical is the first or second synonym of non-symmetrical. This is because they are the same thing. If a shape is not symmetrical then it is asymmetrical. Just as if someone has no belief in God, even if it's only because they've never heard of the concept they are an atheist. I was an atheist by default until I was 5 by virtue of just never having heard of God, then I became an atheist by realizing how stupid the idea is.
@FireDragons42 Ah, so you can't think for yourself. gotcha. Because obviously if it's listed in a thesaurus it must be true, it's not like thesauruses ever disagree or anything, no no...
Despite definitions and synonyms, the logic for the definition must be there, regardless how many dictionaries in the future (thanks to you idiots) will say that atheism is the lack of a belief.
@todocambiara2 Thinking for yourself is a great quality which I do value but when it comes to the etymology of words there is only so much leeway you have in definitions. You take a word and you can examine its origins. The "a" or "an" prefix means "without" in every case I have seen a-typical, a-moral, a-bacterial, an-aerobic, etc.
If a theist is someone who believes in God, then an "a-theist" is someone without a belief in God.
Math lacks symmetry therefore it can be said to be asymmetrical
@FireDragons42 Etymology is how an idea becomes a word, it does not form the definition. Saying an atheist is a non-theist is true, but a non-theist doesn't have to be an atheist and cannot be a theist. Atheism is a concept that arose from the concept of theism, in order to be an atheist you first must be exposed to theism. The entire universe is not atheist by default, and that's what needs to be recognized. Objectively speaking, theism is just a belief like any other. 1/2
2/2 In order to plan a trip for the weekend you must believe the weekend will come. So let's make groups. Weekendists believe the weekend will come. Someone hears a weekendist spout his beliefs and in response says he believes this weekendists is wrong. This makes him an "a"weekendist, but before he thought of the concept of believing the weekend will come he was a non-weekendist. Necessarily, an aweekendist is a non-weekendist, all that's changed is he's taken a position.
@todocambiara2 Before the "a-weekendist" knew about the "weekendists" he still did not hold a belief that the weekend would come, even though he had no use for the term, he was still an "a-weekendist". And the "a-weekendist" label would apply both to people who actively believe that the world will end before the weekend and those who just aren't sure if it will come. This is why with atheism we've decided to help you out by attaching "Strong" and "Weak" or "Gnostic" and "Agnostic" to clarify.
@FireDragons42 saying "he still did not hold a belief blah..." is true, but he held the belief that the weekendists was wrong, and there is no getting around that. That idea of believing that the weekendist is wrong is where the term aweekendist is derived. It's the IDEA.
Saying you do not believe in a god may be true, but it is not true about what you do, it is true about what you do NOT do, and there is a difference. I do not have a tail does not describe me, it describes what I don't have.
@todocambiara2 Granted that the etymology does not determine all definitions, but it can get you the original meaning, and this is most often a good place to start when determining meanings of words. Non-theist is a relatively new term used by some who wish to avoid some of the negative ideas people attach to the word atheist but this doesn't change the fact that an atheist at it's core means "one without a belief in god(s)".
(...continued)The universe is atheistic by default because the vast majority of the things in it have no belief in God. This isn't a useful description though so we don't describe a rock as an atheist because it doesn't give us any useful information about it. This is why the term didn't come into existence until after theism. Saying you have no belief in God is not useful until there are people who do believe in Him.
@FireDragons42 jebus crow... Look, as an atheist, you're position on theism is different than a non-theist's position. Or if you don't want me to say "non-theist", i'll have to write it out has someone who is not a theist. Someone who is not a theist is not by default atheist. Atheism represents an idea, whether of rejection or disbelief in theism, the positions are different, even though an atheist is still someone who is not a theist. Are you equating your position on god equal to a baby?
@FireDragons42 What?!? the term "non" just has to do with a logical negation and has been used since formal logic came into existence. You're giving too much worth to the term "non" being applied to theism. It is just meant to represent a logical negation, lol. Beginning to think this is hopeless. I don't give a fuck about the negatives attached to the word atheist, what I care about is that atheists are going around telling theists they have bad logic when they can't even define their position.
@FireDragons42 This is not my initial response. I know the comment box will only show this one as it is most recent. I just wanted to comment further on etymology of words.
Think about it, if definitions were based on the etymology, a word would have only one meaning. This is not the case and is not how definitions arise. Words are simply symbols for concepts. Definitions are much more complex than all that. Blue, for instance means sad, and it is a color.
@todocambiara2 and before you go accusing me of being a theist myself. I am not. Not even close. I was, but at 20 i became an atheist that thought like you did. When I confronted someone that told me my definition was logically wrong, I debated with him in the EXACT same way you are with me. Same responses, same arguments, likely the same thought process. It took a LOT of thought on this subject before I realized what he was saying, and it is actually so simple. Search for GKLR.
@lefayad1991 Yeah plus his "come back when you have discovered something yourself" argument is so stupid. By that logic he should disregard everything the Bible says because HE didn't write it. Or that we should disregard the theory of gravity because someone else came up with it.
@lefayad1991 Suppose you have a child and they claim that you are not his or her creator? You tell the child, "Mommie and I had sex, then, 9 months later you appeared." The child reply's, "Explain how I was created in Mommie's stomach step by step and include all the details about how you attached my arms and legs to work with my brain?" You reply, "I can't every detail. All I know is I planted the seed and it grew." The child reply's, "Then, where did the seed come from?"
@todocambiara2 The information of DNA is not a concept, but, rather a blueprint with instructions. Sure, man labeled it as DNA; however, this doesn't change the fact that the information existed before mankind could label anything. All living things have blueprints with instructions. It's called the circle of life. What or shall I say who created this information?
@kenyon4us No, the idea that DNA is information is a concept. You see, in order to even call DNA information, it had to exist so you could say it. Ok, you want to call it a blueprint? You can't read up or perhaps aspire to observe the process? There is nothing miraculous about it, it is very well understood.
Of course, I don't suppose you accept evolution so I suspect you'll fall back on the idea that, well, the DNA had to come from somewhere! Funny how you don't use this logic for god...
@todocambiara2 Science can explain how DNA works in a sense that it's the building blocks to living things, but, again, it cannot explain why a group of cells becomes a ear or why they group to form a nose or a lip. Science cannot explain the why behind things that happens. Things happen they way that they do for a reason. Orders of information like this isn't random. This is the basic Atheist claim: All I know is, it happens, then, conclude: GOD had nothing to do with it.
@kenyon4us Well, I'm certainly not making the claim that it is random. I know what you mean though, and yes, a lot of atheists talk about evolution like it is random because of natural selection, but that process is far from random. On a molecular level, they may even think that the linking together of DNA molecules occurs randomly, but I think this is wrong. However DNA formed, i'm sure it was a process with a method. I'm just not about to put it off on so meting supernatural, you understand?
@todocambiara2 Oh, I completely understand why you wouldn't. But you have to consider the fact that things like this (all thought out the world [and thought out different species {and thought out our galaxy}]) happen consistently for centuries without error. Some of most of that can be explained by science and by that, I'm amazed. However, why would it just start happening by itself? And most importantly, why for our own good? Could choice ever be a possibility? If not, then, what reason?
@kenyon4us It is pretty cool. But again, even the idea of it being "cool", or "good" have come from the way we evolved. It was this way for our species, it may not, or it does not have to be that particular perspective, and that alone should send up some flags. Our understanding of reality is influenced by our biology, which is why these feeligs of cool are thought to be good, and the reason good even exists. On a basic level, the god's are really us. (continued 1/2)
2/2- Every single god we have created has been created by our view of of what a god is, and this has come from our view of humans and what we like about them, or what we don't like about them so we use the intuitive opposite. And by the way, just look at us! We are absolutely beautiful in the right light, and terrible in others. Sounds like God and Satan right there, which are in almost every religion.
But i know, why this type of reality? Why gravity, a vacuum and matter? I don't know dude.
3/2 But does someone really have to know? If so, why? It would seem to me that a god is too convenient, or gods even. What if it's not something sentient? What if on a cosmic scale, universes are being churned our like hot cakes? Doesn't that seem just as likely as a god having always existed, without needing to be created? If you're question is what are the chances of this universe, wouldn't god be more complex than the universe? What are the chances of a god then?
@uvauva2 I never mention anything about the creation of GOD, the video is about how man has enough knowledge to determine what's right about the universe thru discovery. My response about the video is about the information that's being discovered. What does the author of the video say about the information that's being discovered. This knowledge being discovered isn't random information, but, in fact intelligent. The author seems to ignore those facts.
@uvauva2 I read the most popular evolution theory's. One thing I notice about evolution theory's is more and more pop up everyday. Why? Because they are cancel each other out. When a new one comes out, it disproves the last. And so on and so fourth. I'm looking for the video that hasn't repeated what others has stated as fact only later to be disproved. I'm all for knowledge. But not for restating other peoples thoughts and ideas which this video does.
It's amusing to me that you fell this video has any requirement for "new knowledge" and or "demonstrations", when it is merely an uplifting humanistic statement: any factual statements it refers to are way more than adequately demonstrated and well known.
As for your statements about evolution they make me suspect, from experience, that you have no idea what you are talking about, or what the word even means: please give me an example of these evolutionary theories that "cancel out"
@kenyon4us "What can explain the creation of information then?"
We don't know, therefore god didit? Your argument from ignorance doesn't convince anyone, sorry.
Instead of inserting your gullible presuppositions into the gaps of your knowledge, let's try to come up with some actual answers which don't involve fucking magic, thank you very much.
Who created the creator? Oh, all of a sudden information CAN come into existence from nothing? Gimme a break.
@viridismonasteriense Creation of information is needed for the simple fact that it explains the how and why for things. All living things have order, Period. Science can explain how things work, but, cannot explain why the order of things exist. That's why no evolution theory pans out. They're missing a big part of how the universe works. The part they are missing is intelligence. Which they rule out to be a coincidence; however, they use order to gain this perspective ;-)
@kenyon4us "Creation of information is needed for the simple fact that it explains the how and why for things."
So you're saying that because you need an answer any answer will do. Wow.
"All living things have order, Period." Depends on what you mean by 'order'. If this is some lame attempt at saying the universe is 'finely-tuned for life' I can debunk that in two seconds.
"That's why no evolution theory pans out." What does evolution have to do with origins of life?
@kenyon4us "They're missing a big part of how the universe works. The part they are missing is intelligence. "
Oh, so ALL the scientists in the world are oblivious to this fact, yet YOU have somehow stumbled upon this nugget of information, have been divulged this secret or have found this answer where EVERYONE else has failed.
So tell me, how do you know this? What god gave you this information and denied it to everyone else?
Is the universe intelligent or made by intelligence? Pick.
@kenyon4us Why do you think the universe is intelligent or why do you think the universe is made by an intelligence and how do you know?
"Which they rule out to be a coincidence; however, they use order to gain this perspective ;-)"
Ah, yes, because they're all in denial about the answer they already know to be true, which is YOUR assertion that the universe is intelligent/made by intelligence, because of your argument from ignorance and god of the gaps. No offense.
@lefayad1991 Great video that's what I am always telling people why are we buying into this superstitious bullshit when we can spend people to the moon. I always wonder how much more advanced a species we would become if religions ugly head never popped up.
Wow. I guess I never *really* thought about the mind boggling fact that less than 70 years after the first flight ever we managed to progress to space travel. WTF. That is a short enough time span that the same person could be alive for both of those events.
@PainefulMass In science fiction people talk about a "singularity" - a single invention that causes technological progress to accelerate without bound. Some say this will be some kind of nanotechnology, or sentient robots. I say that with the exponential rate of progress we are already seeing, we've already passed it.
Humanity may be a small species in a big universe, but we are smart and we are determined. And someday we will colonize enough stars and galaxies that we won't be small anymore.
Organised religions suck ass because they try to force people to believe them, but there is a place & intrinsic need in some for following their own pathway spiritually & not pushing our personal beliefs down others' throats. This is also a condition in humanity. Please don't label all of us as either religious or scientific - there is room for both spirituality and science if we think outside the box.
I really don't see how science fiction and religion gel. The religious believe they don't have a future. The world could end any day and their particular version of a god will scoop them up and end it all when they least expect it. For them, there is no future beyond planet earth, progress is meaningless because works are unimportant, only faith is. So while we non-believers will build spaceships to the stars, they'll be waiting in their caves, praying to a god who does not exist to end it.
@viridismonasteriense I'm an atheist but I don't think you could say religious people don't work :P
And I still don't get the point of lancing big piles of metal into space...Americans only built space ships because they didn't want to get dominated by the soviets
@Superblabala1917 It's about exploration, gaining a better understanding of the universe and the survival of the human race. We've only got five million years left before the sun expands. We really need to find a way to get off this planet or else everything in human history will be lost.
Sure, religious people work. Because deep down they know this world is the only world they are sure of existing. If they were sure of heaven, they'd have suicide pacts and/or bombs and pray for tumors.
@Superblabala1917 This whole rapture thing last week wasn't just a joke. People died. People killed themselves and their children to spare themselves tribulations and to be with their gods. They don't believe we have a future and they never will. They cling to the past. Their worldview is based on revelation, not investigation, and all secrets were already divulged to us thousands of years ago and there's no need to look beyond that. This world will always rate second to them.
@Hairysteed A woman slit hers and her daughter's throats to spare them from the tribulation in CA, US 19th of May. Luckily they were treated in time and saved and the woman arrested. But it just goes to show that this wasn't just a harmless joke. This has real-life consequences. Think of all the people who put their money into international marketing, millions down the drain...will Harold Camping pay them back? I sincerely doubt it.
@viridismonasteriense I know... if it were just the people who take that stuff seriously it would be just a harsh lesson to learn or a Darwin award, but taking their reluctant family members with them is going too far!
@Hairysteed lol people like George Bush say that too. People should fight the pollution of the earth instead of thinking about moving to another earth to pollute that one too.What other reasons would moving to another planet have? And the human race will get extinct anyway.
@Superblabala1917 Pollute other planets? Haven't heard Bush say anything about that, but another George - namely Carlin - did say something about "saving the planet", that the planet has survived planetary impacts, asteroids, volcanoes, ice ages and it isn't going anywhere - We are!
Moving to other planets is also an insurance; An extinction level event on one planet doesn't result in the extinction of our species.
When theists say that I do not have a faith in anything or that I don't believe in anything I tell them this: I have faith that mankind will one day throw off the ancient shackles of superstition and go out into the cosmos and determine it's own purpose through curiosity and discovery in this universe.
Also, I just love how in the upper right corner, next to the vid, there's an ad that goes "I have accepted Jesus as my saviour. I want to be a child of christ", with a button that says "Yes, I want to be saved!" -- complete with a picture of Jim Caviezel.
God created all animals, all mankind, and he is coming back!!
He loves you so much that he gave his one and true only son to die on the cross and for all those who believe will not cherish but have everlasting life!
Why do you reject his love?
Why do you listen to this world that brings hate and stress?
When, he loves you?
When, he is there to help you and make a way!
When, he is there to pick you up when you fall!
Please don't respond this comment with hate but with a new understanding.
Every religion since the dawn of time has preached this sort of absolute truth.
Its not a question of rejecting "his love". Its a question of rejecting a story that survives through brainwashing and which has no proof whatsoever to back it up.
Do you want to look at all the horrible things that happen in this world and tell me "he is there to pick you up when you fall"? Seriously... tell that to the thousands of innocent children that die each year.
@ThePuppyTurtle pretty big waste of time if you ask me. especially since you don't/can't know when jesus is returning, you are sacrificing improving the planet for "converting" as many people as you can before jesus gets here.
@ThePuppyTurtle well what you were trying to say in your original comment is that atheism drives people to a lack of hope or a drive to do anything, so I counter with how someone can do the same if they are christian, it is not my belief that you couldn't do both, but since I believe that our species is going to be around for quite some time (assuming we don't obliterate each other) I think its our duty to improve the planet while we are here
@ThePuppyTurtle Why can't life have value? I value life, and I'm an atheist. The death penalty is more advocated for by the religious than the irreligious.
@csbair The Frequency of death penalty Advocation is irrelevant. And the Reason an Atheist can't have a purposeful life is because (In Atheism) Nothing has Objective value. If I were to stop believing in God I would almost certainly Kill Myself.
@ThePuppyTurtle It is relevant. It establishes that atheists value life more than the religious, since they do not advocate state-sponsored murder as much as the religious.
You said that in atheism, life can't have value. Now you're changing that to having a "purposeful life." If you can't even reason your own arguments, why should anyone bother with you?
There is no "objective value." All religious people like yourself do is transpose the value onto a fictitious character...
@ThePuppyTurtle You create subjective values, laws, etc., but say they're objective because someone says they come from a deity. If the creation came from a fallible source, the creation, too, is fallible. As we can plainly see reading the Bible.
Because you have an issue with reality (if you stopped believing, you'd kill yourself), doesn't mean that we atheists have an issue with reality. That's an indictment of your mental well-being, not ours.
@ThePuppyTurtle Religion is subjective. Beauty is subjective. Love is subjective. Why are these meaningless? Or do you just not understand any argument you're making here?
@ThePuppyTurtle Did you just send me a 167 character private message, which included you saying that you were private messaging me to avoid the 500-character limit of comments, to say that love is objective and that you weren't going to bother discussing whether religion was?
I think you should get more educated before you try to argue on the internet, kiddo.
@ThePuppyTurtle Your comments have a beige background to them on YouTube. Are you serious that you couldn't keep up with them here? Still, thanks for the laughs. You have a while to go, and a lot more to learn.
@ThePuppyTurtle FYI hit Ctrl F and you'll access the find protocol, just type your username and it can take you right to it, if you've made a few comments you'll have to click a few times to find the one you want but it's quick.
I've been an atheist since i was a kid and my life has a significant amount of value. It's value comes from my friends and how they would miss me if i died or disapeared, my family would also be effected as would the people that I work with. It all boils down to the type of person that you are, i like to get involved in life and help the people around me as well as finding out about how awesome this place is we live in. It beats the bible....
oooOOOooo.....goal post shift much? You decry a so called lack of value in life to an atheist and I point out your wrong and then you shift to something else. You now want me to place value on this lack of distress?? There should be no question on the lack of distress, I'd have thought that would be something you'd agree on. The value is in the wellbeing of others, lets put this another way.... (cont)
I have a neice that is uttlery adorable and fun to be around, the value I place on being around her is that it's great to see her grow up and I am one of the adults in her life that should be able to contribute to her being a happy and stable child as she grows up. Lets say that we're much further down the line and something was to happen to me and I died, everyone has a hard time dealing with the loss of a family member but kids more so (cont)
So losing one of her aunts would really be a knock to my neice and make her upset, which might add extra stress to the rest of my family as they try and help her through her grief. And you want me to quantify the objective value of someone not having that emotional distress? Maybe it's me not thinking outside of my box but I thought the value of people not going through that was obvious.
@ThePuppyTurtle What possible value do you consider life to have if you think you are going to live forever? My life - and the lives of others, in my eyes - has GREAT value, because I recognize the brevity of life, and the opportunity I have here to experience life. This most likely is the ONLY chance any of us ever has to live, therefore it brings extreme value and meaning not only to life, but to every single moment of it. When is the last time you cherished a moment?
Having lived in the mostly agnostic society of Japan for the past twelve years, I don't think religion is necessary for most . Most can find meaning without it (a few can't it seems though).
I also find that science has both proven parts of religious beliefs to either be very incorrect or highly unlikely, and that it is science that has brought us the furthest.
I LOVE THIS!!!!
louielouie11224 2 hours ago
i hope this is a joke
trefree2 1 week ago
not once in all the talk was there any credit given to the Alien's that truly gave modern man the ability. Yet every bibical text, every old document suggest this. Religion was no swindle, it was a way for ancient man to understand it. We are so full of it we cannot even look at the fact without distortion. Sad. Very sad.
CapnDumpsterDiver 1 month ago
@CapnDumpsterDiver not sure if troll...or guy from Ancient Aliens
lefayad1991 1 month ago 3
@lefayad1991 was that some sort o joke? honestly, I didnt get it if thats what you mean't? Alls I was trying to say was the E.T's have been here far longer than modern man. So n easy hypothesis is that Ancient Man thought of them asGod(s) in every single ancient text thats what they are reffered to as...
CapnDumpsterDiver 1 month ago
@lefayad1991 also, their not trolls, but display every single emotion we do. So my assumption is simple, we are them. Or from them.
CapnDumpsterDiver 1 month ago
@CapnDumpsterDiver Easy to say, but - proof, evidence.... You can't use scripture books for the same reasons that Christians cannot use them to validate their own belief. As of yet, there is no hard proof of aliens. Do I personally believe that aliens exists somewhere out there? The numbers are too absurd not to, But that doesn't mean that they have been to our planet in any sense.
AvalonDraconis 1 month ago
It supposedly says "Allah" in Arabic when the rocket seperates.
RammatRamzi 1 month ago in playlist Truth log
Yeah, but religion is hard to pinpoint. It's not just an explanation of the universe. It has to do with human interactions, morals, the society, not to mention psychological needs and uncertainteis. They say religion is in a sense hard-wired into our brains, that it is part of our evolutionary baggage. Religion operates on so many levels.
topperheartramada 1 month ago in playlist Truth log
There will come the time for every man in which his beliefs cannot survive. What every man must do is make the decision to abandon his beliefs, lose his identity, and gain a new one or make a stand where he will reject the words of others no matter their power. Men of religion and men of no religion will all meet such a challenge. What happens is up to you. Simply remember that, "It is not strange to mistake change for progress."(Graham McNeil)
bioLightbulb 4 months ago
Truly one of the best videos on youtube. Putting M83 as the soundtrack gives it 11/10.
stufod 4 months ago
at 01:13-01:17 the clouds are formed in ALLAH's name. You all got the truth in front of you, but you don't wanna believe. I was atheist 2 years ago, but the sience brought me to Islam and now i'm free! Check out the wonders in the holly Quran. If you got a functional mind ask yourself how this wonders could be written over 1400 years ago! Till your death you got the time to think about it. If you don't do so it’s all your own fault.
Inshallah/if God want, you get on the right way.
bye bye :)
MrHe4degg 6 months ago
@MrHe4degg "The clouds are formed in Allah's name." What evidence do you have to support this? I'm going to guess none.
Mehcide 1 month ago 2
@MrHe4degg wow idiot alert. I highly doubt you were an atheist and all your claims about god or Allah have no evidence whatsoever. Not surprising that there is no scientific papers coming out of the Islamic countries for over 1000 years.The quran fails at morality and proves it wasn't written by any god. have a nice day deluded one
pandorachild 1 month ago 2
An argument against Religion from the other side:
Why would an Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent Being
care whether or not we believed in or worshiped it?
And if it wanted obedience, we would have no choice anyway.
PeterThenn 6 months ago
@PeterThenn why no chance? you said it right. Allah wants obedience!
MrHe4degg 6 months ago
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GahdeMalprigi1488x 7 months ago
The way you present your argument can be taken that humanity as a whole is better than any of the gods or we are the gods themselves in action. I completely agree. Humanity as a whole, for all its good and bad is better than any god ever created. Humanity is more powerful than those gods. Why? Not because we are all knowing, all powerful, or eternal, but because we can accomplish so much with so with so little power, knowledge, and such short lives. Humanity has already gone beyond any gods.
bayouboyy 7 months ago 9
@bayouboyy exactly. We are all capable in so much and the fact that our knowledge transcends generations so that we can accomplish more is remarkable in and of itself. We are such a remarkable species and the fact that we attribute our greatness to false gods is insulting to our species.
lefayad1991 7 months ago 5
@kenyon4us
Concerning your questions about information this should answer them: /watch?v=hu3HqSB4Its
Also a GOD figure is an unfalsifiable hypothesis, but the judeo-christian, muslim etc.. god is because we know facts about them which have been disproved. I suggest you research the subject on youtube as many youtubers have explained this (theamazing atheist made one good video about this i think).
FlashAstronomy 7 months ago
Will Humans ever Move Forward & Achieve : Immortality, Telekinesis, Telepathy, Precognition, True Empathy, Claircognizance, Teleportation, Invisibility, Invincibility, Holodecks, Replicators, Human Flight, Cellular Regeneration, Technopathy, Eidetic Memory, Psychometry, Empathic Mimicry, Super Hearing & Intelligence, X-Ray Vision, Time Manipulation, Time Travel, Faster Than Light Speed Travel, Wormhole Travel, Traveling Different Dimensions & Becoming a Type I, Type II than Type III Civilization
halcyon0830 7 months ago
WHY DO HUMANS USE OIL & NUCLEAR. USE
HEMP, Wind & Solar Power, Hydroelectricity, Tidal energy, Biomass, Geothermal, Photovoltaics, Ionosphere, Wave power, Permanent Magnet Alternator Generators, Nanotechnology, Cellulosic ethanol, Hydrogen power, Tesla, Zero-Point, Compressed Air, Gravitational energy, Enzymes, Biorefinery, Microgeneration, Thermal Mass, Oxyhydrogen (HHO), Joe Cell, Bloombox, Oxygen, Nitrogen, Water power, Radiant energy, Methane, Directed energy, Dark, Tachyon, etc SAVE ENERGY.
halcyon0830 7 months ago
@halcyon0830 For energy: Because the earth has a lot of it, and it produces a LOT of energy easely.
And btw humans have already achieved (well started working, and mostly at a very low level but it's just the beggining): telepathy (kinda, still working on that), teleportation (with subatomic particules), invisibility (using something with waves bending light) and many other things but my messages would be too long. I suggest you do research as it's not hard finding answers to your questions. :/
FlashAstronomy 7 months ago
It's NOT Religion, it's from making religion INTO A business that you can profit from, the problem in this world IS BOUNDLESS HUMAN GREED AND SELFISHNESS AND COMPLETE DISCONNECTION FROM ALL OTHER LIVING THINGS. People can use Atheism or Environmentalism or Capitalism or Charity or Defense or ANYTHING to do EVIL if they have NOTHING BUT GREED IN THEIR HEARTS. Humans who LOSE morals, ethics, faith in themselves, compassion, humanity, and gain pure greed, fear, hate, lies, bigotry WILL DESTROY 24/7
halcyon0830 7 months ago
religion = elitist slavery. this set belief system imprisons people into extreme conditioning. It divides humanity when we are one with the universe. Our energies should be united with a free flowing system that endorses positive actions.
SuperEarther 7 months ago
Who is the narrator? He sounds familiar.
joe3eagles 7 months ago
@joe3eagles it's me lol
lefayad1991 7 months ago
Christianity is a lot more than belief and non-belief. If it was just that then what would be the point in any of it? Anyone could simply say "I believe" and be considered a Christian. No, it's much more than that. It's having the consciousness to know that what you do unconsciously and physically everyday can and will affect this world or Universe. How can you prove that it won't? We simply can't, but just saying that it's bullshit doesn't anymore prove that it won't than saying it will.
jos2thehua23 8 months ago
THE ULTIMATE HOLY WAR TO FIGHT FOR IS THE WAR AGAINST RELIGION!
Reaper081087 8 months ago
So very well said. My favorite part is how religion holds people back based on superstitions that came about when man's greatest technological invention was the plow.
ThoughtCriminal4 8 months ago
@ThoughtCriminal4 thank you :)
lefayad1991 8 months ago
I think it is opposite, religion does not say we are unique or somehow blessed.
in fact it says we are all cursed worthless insignificant and no better than trash and we must praise god for letting us to exist even if we have no right to be here.
all attempts to bring humanity above trash can is mercilessly squashed by religion which immediately reminds not to try to play god and be in the place you deserve to be.
deltaxcd 8 months ago
so where is Jebus? I need only 10 min for a second coming
AnonaThetan 8 months ago
I wonder where those clips of trilobites came from :)
hildegain 8 months ago
well put sir
civet20009 8 months ago
What can explain the creation of information then? In order to prove that there isn't a GOD, one must know everything? Can you claim to know everything there is to know? We as mankind know as much a four year knows where they came before they are told where they come from. Thank you for your opinion, but, come back when you have enough facts that you discovered on your own without relying on what others say.
kenyon4us 8 months ago
@kenyon4us lol, another example of a theist placing the burden of proof on the non-believers. You have not proven god exists SO the default position is atheism.
lefayad1991 8 months ago 11
@lefayad1991 the default position is NON, not atheism. For those never exposed to theism, their position is NON. They must be included in the discussion to have a position otherwise by either stumbling onto the concept on their own or being introduced to it by someone else.
A rock, a toilet seat, a baby= all NON-theists.
Non-theism= atheism the same way non-symmetrical= asymmetrical. They don't. So tired of this flawed logic from "weak atheists". Weak is right, weak minded.
todocambiara2 8 months ago
@todocambiara2 I just love how the if you look it up in a thesaurus asymmetrical is the first or second synonym of non-symmetrical. This is because they are the same thing. If a shape is not symmetrical then it is asymmetrical. Just as if someone has no belief in God, even if it's only because they've never heard of the concept they are an atheist. I was an atheist by default until I was 5 by virtue of just never having heard of God, then I became an atheist by realizing how stupid the idea is.
FireDragons42 8 months ago
@FireDragons42 Ah, so you can't think for yourself. gotcha. Because obviously if it's listed in a thesaurus it must be true, it's not like thesauruses ever disagree or anything, no no...
Despite definitions and synonyms, the logic for the definition must be there, regardless how many dictionaries in the future (thanks to you idiots) will say that atheism is the lack of a belief.
Is math asymmetrical or non-symmetrical?
todocambiara2 8 months ago
@todocambiara2 Thinking for yourself is a great quality which I do value but when it comes to the etymology of words there is only so much leeway you have in definitions. You take a word and you can examine its origins. The "a" or "an" prefix means "without" in every case I have seen a-typical, a-moral, a-bacterial, an-aerobic, etc.
If a theist is someone who believes in God, then an "a-theist" is someone without a belief in God.
Math lacks symmetry therefore it can be said to be asymmetrical
FireDragons42 8 months ago
@FireDragons42 Etymology is how an idea becomes a word, it does not form the definition. Saying an atheist is a non-theist is true, but a non-theist doesn't have to be an atheist and cannot be a theist. Atheism is a concept that arose from the concept of theism, in order to be an atheist you first must be exposed to theism. The entire universe is not atheist by default, and that's what needs to be recognized. Objectively speaking, theism is just a belief like any other. 1/2
todocambiara2 8 months ago
2/2 In order to plan a trip for the weekend you must believe the weekend will come. So let's make groups. Weekendists believe the weekend will come. Someone hears a weekendist spout his beliefs and in response says he believes this weekendists is wrong. This makes him an "a"weekendist, but before he thought of the concept of believing the weekend will come he was a non-weekendist. Necessarily, an aweekendist is a non-weekendist, all that's changed is he's taken a position.
todocambiara2 8 months ago
@todocambiara2 Before the "a-weekendist" knew about the "weekendists" he still did not hold a belief that the weekend would come, even though he had no use for the term, he was still an "a-weekendist". And the "a-weekendist" label would apply both to people who actively believe that the world will end before the weekend and those who just aren't sure if it will come. This is why with atheism we've decided to help you out by attaching "Strong" and "Weak" or "Gnostic" and "Agnostic" to clarify.
FireDragons42 8 months ago
@FireDragons42 saying "he still did not hold a belief blah..." is true, but he held the belief that the weekendists was wrong, and there is no getting around that. That idea of believing that the weekendist is wrong is where the term aweekendist is derived. It's the IDEA.
Saying you do not believe in a god may be true, but it is not true about what you do, it is true about what you do NOT do, and there is a difference. I do not have a tail does not describe me, it describes what I don't have.
todocambiara2 8 months ago
@todocambiara2 Granted that the etymology does not determine all definitions, but it can get you the original meaning, and this is most often a good place to start when determining meanings of words. Non-theist is a relatively new term used by some who wish to avoid some of the negative ideas people attach to the word atheist but this doesn't change the fact that an atheist at it's core means "one without a belief in god(s)".
(continued...)
FireDragons42 8 months ago
(...continued)The universe is atheistic by default because the vast majority of the things in it have no belief in God. This isn't a useful description though so we don't describe a rock as an atheist because it doesn't give us any useful information about it. This is why the term didn't come into existence until after theism. Saying you have no belief in God is not useful until there are people who do believe in Him.
FireDragons42 8 months ago
@FireDragons42 jebus crow... Look, as an atheist, you're position on theism is different than a non-theist's position. Or if you don't want me to say "non-theist", i'll have to write it out has someone who is not a theist. Someone who is not a theist is not by default atheist. Atheism represents an idea, whether of rejection or disbelief in theism, the positions are different, even though an atheist is still someone who is not a theist. Are you equating your position on god equal to a baby?
todocambiara2 8 months ago
@FireDragons42 What?!? the term "non" just has to do with a logical negation and has been used since formal logic came into existence. You're giving too much worth to the term "non" being applied to theism. It is just meant to represent a logical negation, lol. Beginning to think this is hopeless. I don't give a fuck about the negatives attached to the word atheist, what I care about is that atheists are going around telling theists they have bad logic when they can't even define their position.
todocambiara2 8 months ago
@FireDragons42 This is not my initial response. I know the comment box will only show this one as it is most recent. I just wanted to comment further on etymology of words.
Think about it, if definitions were based on the etymology, a word would have only one meaning. This is not the case and is not how definitions arise. Words are simply symbols for concepts. Definitions are much more complex than all that. Blue, for instance means sad, and it is a color.
todocambiara2 8 months ago
@FireDragons42 Math cannot be asymmetrical. Saying something is asymmetrical implies that it could possibly be symmetrical. Math is non-symmetrical.
todocambiara2 8 months ago
@todocambiara2 and before you go accusing me of being a theist myself. I am not. Not even close. I was, but at 20 i became an atheist that thought like you did. When I confronted someone that told me my definition was logically wrong, I debated with him in the EXACT same way you are with me. Same responses, same arguments, likely the same thought process. It took a LOT of thought on this subject before I realized what he was saying, and it is actually so simple. Search for GKLR.
todocambiara2 8 months ago
@lefayad1991 Yeah plus his "come back when you have discovered something yourself" argument is so stupid. By that logic he should disregard everything the Bible says because HE didn't write it. Or that we should disregard the theory of gravity because someone else came up with it.
hildegain 8 months ago
@lefayad1991 Suppose you have a child and they claim that you are not his or her creator? You tell the child, "Mommie and I had sex, then, 9 months later you appeared." The child reply's, "Explain how I was created in Mommie's stomach step by step and include all the details about how you attached my arms and legs to work with my brain?" You reply, "I can't every detail. All I know is I planted the seed and it grew." The child reply's, "Then, where did the seed come from?"
kenyon4us 8 months ago
@lefayad1991 the holly Quran is the proof! Check its wonders. And what about intelligent design? ever heard of it? if not you got to delve into it.
MrHe4degg 6 months ago
@kenyon4us Information is a concept created by man. You're whole argument is circular.
todocambiara2 8 months ago
@todocambiara2 The information of DNA is not a concept, but, rather a blueprint with instructions. Sure, man labeled it as DNA; however, this doesn't change the fact that the information existed before mankind could label anything. All living things have blueprints with instructions. It's called the circle of life. What or shall I say who created this information?
kenyon4us 8 months ago
@kenyon4us No, the idea that DNA is information is a concept. You see, in order to even call DNA information, it had to exist so you could say it. Ok, you want to call it a blueprint? You can't read up or perhaps aspire to observe the process? There is nothing miraculous about it, it is very well understood.
Of course, I don't suppose you accept evolution so I suspect you'll fall back on the idea that, well, the DNA had to come from somewhere! Funny how you don't use this logic for god...
todocambiara2 8 months ago
@todocambiara2 Science can explain how DNA works in a sense that it's the building blocks to living things, but, again, it cannot explain why a group of cells becomes a ear or why they group to form a nose or a lip. Science cannot explain the why behind things that happens. Things happen they way that they do for a reason. Orders of information like this isn't random. This is the basic Atheist claim: All I know is, it happens, then, conclude: GOD had nothing to do with it.
kenyon4us 8 months ago
@kenyon4us Well, I'm certainly not making the claim that it is random. I know what you mean though, and yes, a lot of atheists talk about evolution like it is random because of natural selection, but that process is far from random. On a molecular level, they may even think that the linking together of DNA molecules occurs randomly, but I think this is wrong. However DNA formed, i'm sure it was a process with a method. I'm just not about to put it off on so meting supernatural, you understand?
todocambiara2 8 months ago
@todocambiara2 Oh, I completely understand why you wouldn't. But you have to consider the fact that things like this (all thought out the world [and thought out different species {and thought out our galaxy}]) happen consistently for centuries without error. Some of most of that can be explained by science and by that, I'm amazed. However, why would it just start happening by itself? And most importantly, why for our own good? Could choice ever be a possibility? If not, then, what reason?
kenyon4us 8 months ago
@kenyon4us It is pretty cool. But again, even the idea of it being "cool", or "good" have come from the way we evolved. It was this way for our species, it may not, or it does not have to be that particular perspective, and that alone should send up some flags. Our understanding of reality is influenced by our biology, which is why these feeligs of cool are thought to be good, and the reason good even exists. On a basic level, the god's are really us. (continued 1/2)
todocambiara2 8 months ago
2/2- Every single god we have created has been created by our view of of what a god is, and this has come from our view of humans and what we like about them, or what we don't like about them so we use the intuitive opposite. And by the way, just look at us! We are absolutely beautiful in the right light, and terrible in others. Sounds like God and Satan right there, which are in almost every religion.
But i know, why this type of reality? Why gravity, a vacuum and matter? I don't know dude.
todocambiara2 8 months ago
3/2 But does someone really have to know? If so, why? It would seem to me that a god is too convenient, or gods even. What if it's not something sentient? What if on a cosmic scale, universes are being churned our like hot cakes? Doesn't that seem just as likely as a god having always existed, without needing to be created? If you're question is what are the chances of this universe, wouldn't god be more complex than the universe? What are the chances of a god then?
todocambiara2 8 months ago
@kenyon4us
Funny thing is the very "argument" you are trying to put up dismisses the very thing you are defending.
uvauva2 8 months ago
@uvauva2 I never mention anything about the creation of GOD, the video is about how man has enough knowledge to determine what's right about the universe thru discovery. My response about the video is about the information that's being discovered. What does the author of the video say about the information that's being discovered. This knowledge being discovered isn't random information, but, in fact intelligent. The author seems to ignore those facts.
kenyon4us 8 months ago
@kenyon4us
You failed to understand me completely. The argument of yours I mentioned is yours:
"Thank you for your opinion, but, come back when you have enough facts that you discovered on your own without relying on what others say."
This applies beautifully to everything you have just said, which leads one to wonder: why aren't you dismissing yourself?
uvauva2 8 months ago
@uvauva2 I read the most popular evolution theory's. One thing I notice about evolution theory's is more and more pop up everyday. Why? Because they are cancel each other out. When a new one comes out, it disproves the last. And so on and so fourth. I'm looking for the video that hasn't repeated what others has stated as fact only later to be disproved. I'm all for knowledge. But not for restating other peoples thoughts and ideas which this video does.
kenyon4us 8 months ago
@kenyon4us
It's amusing to me that you fell this video has any requirement for "new knowledge" and or "demonstrations", when it is merely an uplifting humanistic statement: any factual statements it refers to are way more than adequately demonstrated and well known.
As for your statements about evolution they make me suspect, from experience, that you have no idea what you are talking about, or what the word even means: please give me an example of these evolutionary theories that "cancel out"
uvauva2 8 months ago
@kenyon4us "What can explain the creation of information then?"
We don't know, therefore god didit? Your argument from ignorance doesn't convince anyone, sorry.
Instead of inserting your gullible presuppositions into the gaps of your knowledge, let's try to come up with some actual answers which don't involve fucking magic, thank you very much.
Who created the creator? Oh, all of a sudden information CAN come into existence from nothing? Gimme a break.
viridismonasteriense 8 months ago
@viridismonasteriense Creation of information is needed for the simple fact that it explains the how and why for things. All living things have order, Period. Science can explain how things work, but, cannot explain why the order of things exist. That's why no evolution theory pans out. They're missing a big part of how the universe works. The part they are missing is intelligence. Which they rule out to be a coincidence; however, they use order to gain this perspective ;-)
kenyon4us 8 months ago
@kenyon4us "Creation of information is needed for the simple fact that it explains the how and why for things."
So you're saying that because you need an answer any answer will do. Wow.
"All living things have order, Period." Depends on what you mean by 'order'. If this is some lame attempt at saying the universe is 'finely-tuned for life' I can debunk that in two seconds.
"That's why no evolution theory pans out." What does evolution have to do with origins of life?
viridismonasteriense 8 months ago
@kenyon4us "They're missing a big part of how the universe works. The part they are missing is intelligence. "
Oh, so ALL the scientists in the world are oblivious to this fact, yet YOU have somehow stumbled upon this nugget of information, have been divulged this secret or have found this answer where EVERYONE else has failed.
So tell me, how do you know this? What god gave you this information and denied it to everyone else?
Is the universe intelligent or made by intelligence? Pick.
viridismonasteriense 8 months ago
@kenyon4us Why do you think the universe is intelligent or why do you think the universe is made by an intelligence and how do you know?
"Which they rule out to be a coincidence; however, they use order to gain this perspective ;-)"
Ah, yes, because they're all in denial about the answer they already know to be true, which is YOUR assertion that the universe is intelligent/made by intelligence, because of your argument from ignorance and god of the gaps. No offense.
viridismonasteriense 8 months ago
the dislike bar is the size of justin bieber's penis. :)
1009541074brb 8 months ago 6
@1009541074brb lmao
lefayad1991 8 months ago
Nice video it's really great
berglendurch 9 months ago
@berglendurch thank you :)
lefayad1991 9 months ago
@lefayad1991 Great video that's what I am always telling people why are we buying into this superstitious bullshit when we can spend people to the moon. I always wonder how much more advanced a species we would become if religions ugly head never popped up.
TheXman300 8 months ago
Wow. I guess I never *really* thought about the mind boggling fact that less than 70 years after the first flight ever we managed to progress to space travel. WTF. That is a short enough time span that the same person could be alive for both of those events.
PainefulMass 9 months ago
@PainefulMass In science fiction people talk about a "singularity" - a single invention that causes technological progress to accelerate without bound. Some say this will be some kind of nanotechnology, or sentient robots. I say that with the exponential rate of progress we are already seeing, we've already passed it.
lIThorIl 9 months ago
Humanity may be a small species in a big universe, but we are smart and we are determined. And someday we will colonize enough stars and galaxies that we won't be small anymore.
A still more glorious dawn awaits.
VulcanFleet 9 months ago
@VulcanFleet
That is, of course, if we don't nuke ourselves into oblivion first.
pbmdh 9 months ago
great video,I really enjoyed that.
Btw you have a new subscriber.
Sincerely
naybobdenod 9 months ago
@Trickycandyfloss thank you :)
lefayad1991 9 months ago
this blew my mind. this is without a doubt the best commentary video i have seen in 3 years.
ThoughtCriminal4 9 months ago
@ThoughtCriminal4 thank you :) that means a lot
lefayad1991 9 months ago
beautiful my friend :) thank you for this :)
robertgaudlitz 9 months ago
@robertgaudlitz i'm glad you enjoyed
lefayad1991 9 months ago
That clip with new york being built over time is the ending to Gangs of New York.
shagoosty 9 months ago
Nice M83 song ;D
Quiestre 9 months ago
brilliant video
DealWithItStudios 9 months ago
great video man :)
TheUntrueFantasy 9 months ago
This video validates my belief that christians are the dumbest human beings on earth.
BetaDeltaCebu 9 months ago
Organised religions suck ass because they try to force people to believe them, but there is a place & intrinsic need in some for following their own pathway spiritually & not pushing our personal beliefs down others' throats. This is also a condition in humanity. Please don't label all of us as either religious or scientific - there is room for both spirituality and science if we think outside the box.
darkallegiance666 9 months ago
I really don't see how science fiction and religion gel. The religious believe they don't have a future. The world could end any day and their particular version of a god will scoop them up and end it all when they least expect it. For them, there is no future beyond planet earth, progress is meaningless because works are unimportant, only faith is. So while we non-believers will build spaceships to the stars, they'll be waiting in their caves, praying to a god who does not exist to end it.
viridismonasteriense 9 months ago
@viridismonasteriense I'm an atheist but I don't think you could say religious people don't work :P
And I still don't get the point of lancing big piles of metal into space...Americans only built space ships because they didn't want to get dominated by the soviets
Superblabala1917 9 months ago
@Superblabala1917 It's about exploration, gaining a better understanding of the universe and the survival of the human race. We've only got five million years left before the sun expands. We really need to find a way to get off this planet or else everything in human history will be lost.
Sure, religious people work. Because deep down they know this world is the only world they are sure of existing. If they were sure of heaven, they'd have suicide pacts and/or bombs and pray for tumors.
viridismonasteriense 9 months ago
@Superblabala1917 This whole rapture thing last week wasn't just a joke. People died. People killed themselves and their children to spare themselves tribulations and to be with their gods. They don't believe we have a future and they never will. They cling to the past. Their worldview is based on revelation, not investigation, and all secrets were already divulged to us thousands of years ago and there's no need to look beyond that. This world will always rate second to them.
viridismonasteriense 9 months ago
@viridismonasteriense Where did people commit suicide? It didn't happen in Belgium any way...
Superblabala1917 9 months ago
@Superblabala1917 The US. Where else?
viridismonasteriense 9 months ago
@viridismonasteriense xD How could I possibly not know that lol
Superblabala1917 9 months ago
@viridismonasteriense Source? I've only heard of a 14yo girl in Russia committing suicide. Worst I've heard in the US is the loss of livelyhood.
Hairysteed 8 months ago
@Hairysteed A woman slit hers and her daughter's throats to spare them from the tribulation in CA, US 19th of May. Luckily they were treated in time and saved and the woman arrested. But it just goes to show that this wasn't just a harmless joke. This has real-life consequences. Think of all the people who put their money into international marketing, millions down the drain...will Harold Camping pay them back? I sincerely doubt it.
viridismonasteriense 8 months ago
@viridismonasteriense I know... if it were just the people who take that stuff seriously it would be just a harsh lesson to learn or a Darwin award, but taking their reluctant family members with them is going too far!
Hairysteed 8 months ago
@Superblabala1917 "Earth is the cradle of humanity, but one cannot remain in the cradle forever" - Konstantin Tsiolkovsky
We, as a species, will have to venture out into space or die.
Hairysteed 9 months ago
@Hairysteed lol people like George Bush say that too. People should fight the pollution of the earth instead of thinking about moving to another earth to pollute that one too.What other reasons would moving to another planet have? And the human race will get extinct anyway.
Superblabala1917 8 months ago
@Superblabala1917 Pollute other planets? Haven't heard Bush say anything about that, but another George - namely Carlin - did say something about "saving the planet", that the planet has survived planetary impacts, asteroids, volcanoes, ice ages and it isn't going anywhere - We are!
Moving to other planets is also an insurance; An extinction level event on one planet doesn't result in the extinction of our species.
Hairysteed 8 months ago
@Hairysteed I believe I've expressed myself bad. English isn't my first language :P
Superblabala1917 8 months ago
@Superblabala1917 By the way , I think Bush did say something about moving to another planet because this one's polluted. Do you understand me now?
Superblabala1917 8 months ago
@Superblabala1917 Neither is it mine! :D
Hairysteed 8 months ago
@Hairysteed lol :D
Superblabala1917 8 months ago
Awesome video, sparks hope!
KanSirKing 9 months ago
@KanSirKing that was my aim. i'm glad you enjoyed it :)
lefayad1991 9 months ago
When theists say that I do not have a faith in anything or that I don't believe in anything I tell them this: I have faith that mankind will one day throw off the ancient shackles of superstition and go out into the cosmos and determine it's own purpose through curiosity and discovery in this universe.
luisdez81 9 months ago
Great vid. Almost philhellenesian. Well done!
Also, I just love how in the upper right corner, next to the vid, there's an ad that goes "I have accepted Jesus as my saviour. I want to be a child of christ", with a button that says "Yes, I want to be saved!" -- complete with a picture of Jim Caviezel.
GreyLabyrinthine 9 months ago
This video is absolutely amazing.
ResiusOnline 9 months ago
yes, yes, yes. but you are miles away from the real points.
bocckoka 9 months ago
5 christians...
bloodcorer 9 months ago
Portuguese subtitles plz.
claudioateu 9 months ago
Well said!
lockwyn 9 months ago
Excellent!
julzabro 9 months ago
Great video. what is that clip at 2:20 ? I've seen it in several video's, is it real or computer animated.
bonnie43uk 9 months ago
@bonnie43uk its a computer generated animation of a star getting sucked into a black hole
lefayad1991 9 months ago
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Technology did not create the Universe, so what was it?
annainloved 9 months ago
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annainloved 9 months ago
Awesome...just awesome. Cheers!
XandarsMeteor 9 months ago
@XandarsMeteor thank you :)
lefayad1991 9 months ago
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God created all animals, all mankind, and he is coming back!!
He loves you so much that he gave his one and true only son to die on the cross and for all those who believe will not cherish but have everlasting life!
Why do you reject his love?
Why do you listen to this world that brings hate and stress?
When, he loves you?
When, he is there to help you and make a way!
When, he is there to pick you up when you fall!
Please don't respond this comment with hate but with a new understanding.
Thanks
qualityskills1 10 months ago
@qualityskills1 I don't reject the love of a non-existent being
Most of the hate and stress brought into this world is brought forth thanks to the religions
lefayad1991 10 months ago 33
@lefayad1991 POLITICS brought most of the hate and stress brought into this world... I'm not religious by the way :P
Superblabala1917 9 months ago
@qualityskills1
Every religion since the dawn of time has preached this sort of absolute truth.
Its not a question of rejecting "his love". Its a question of rejecting a story that survives through brainwashing and which has no proof whatsoever to back it up.
Do you want to look at all the horrible things that happen in this world and tell me "he is there to pick you up when you fall"? Seriously... tell that to the thousands of innocent children that die each year.
alin1975 9 months ago 4
@alin1975 all i can say is: "why doesn't god heal amputees?"
lefayad1991 9 months ago
@lefayad1991
Absolutely. Thats a classic :)
alin1975 9 months ago
Yeah, (In Atheism) We have a Future, Can't wait for the Heat death.
ThePuppyTurtle 10 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle yeah and in christianity we really have a future. There isn't really a point for me to do anything since jesus is coming back
lefayad1991 10 months ago 2
@lefayad1991 How about to convert people in the mean time.
ThePuppyTurtle 10 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle pretty big waste of time if you ask me. especially since you don't/can't know when jesus is returning, you are sacrificing improving the planet for "converting" as many people as you can before jesus gets here.
lefayad1991 10 months ago
@lefayad1991 Why can't I do Both?
ThePuppyTurtle 10 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle well what you were trying to say in your original comment is that atheism drives people to a lack of hope or a drive to do anything, so I counter with how someone can do the same if they are christian, it is not my belief that you couldn't do both, but since I believe that our species is going to be around for quite some time (assuming we don't obliterate each other) I think its our duty to improve the planet while we are here
lefayad1991 10 months ago
@lefayad1991 Because in Atheism, Life Can't have value
ThePuppyTurtle 10 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle says you, someone who isn't an atheist and obviously doesn't understand the atheist view on life.
lefayad1991 10 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle Why can't life have value? I value life, and I'm an atheist. The death penalty is more advocated for by the religious than the irreligious.
csbair 10 months ago
@csbair The Frequency of death penalty Advocation is irrelevant. And the Reason an Atheist can't have a purposeful life is because (In Atheism) Nothing has Objective value. If I were to stop believing in God I would almost certainly Kill Myself.
ThePuppyTurtle 10 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle It is relevant. It establishes that atheists value life more than the religious, since they do not advocate state-sponsored murder as much as the religious.
You said that in atheism, life can't have value. Now you're changing that to having a "purposeful life." If you can't even reason your own arguments, why should anyone bother with you?
There is no "objective value." All religious people like yourself do is transpose the value onto a fictitious character...
csbair 10 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle You create subjective values, laws, etc., but say they're objective because someone says they come from a deity. If the creation came from a fallible source, the creation, too, is fallible. As we can plainly see reading the Bible.
Because you have an issue with reality (if you stopped believing, you'd kill yourself), doesn't mean that we atheists have an issue with reality. That's an indictment of your mental well-being, not ours.
csbair 10 months ago
@csbair Subjective things are meaningless
ThePuppyTurtle 10 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle Religion is subjective. Beauty is subjective. Love is subjective. Why are these meaningless? Or do you just not understand any argument you're making here?
csbair 10 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle Did you just send me a 167 character private message, which included you saying that you were private messaging me to avoid the 500-character limit of comments, to say that love is objective and that you weren't going to bother discussing whether religion was?
I think you should get more educated before you try to argue on the internet, kiddo.
csbair 10 months ago
@csbair And to Not have to look for it in a Comment Section
ThePuppyTurtle 10 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle Your comments have a beige background to them on YouTube. Are you serious that you couldn't keep up with them here? Still, thanks for the laughs. You have a while to go, and a lot more to learn.
csbair 10 months ago
@csbair he's afraid coming back to this video may enlighten him
lefayad1991 10 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle FYI hit Ctrl F and you'll access the find protocol, just type your username and it can take you right to it, if you've made a few comments you'll have to click a few times to find the one you want but it's quick.
BlueGlowingLight4 9 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle
I've been an atheist since i was a kid and my life has a significant amount of value. It's value comes from my friends and how they would miss me if i died or disapeared, my family would also be effected as would the people that I work with. It all boils down to the type of person that you are, i like to get involved in life and help the people around me as well as finding out about how awesome this place is we live in. It beats the bible....
AngryWomble 10 months ago
@AngryWomble Where is the Objective Value in the Lack of Emotional Distress?
ThePuppyTurtle 10 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle
oooOOOooo.....goal post shift much? You decry a so called lack of value in life to an atheist and I point out your wrong and then you shift to something else. You now want me to place value on this lack of distress?? There should be no question on the lack of distress, I'd have thought that would be something you'd agree on. The value is in the wellbeing of others, lets put this another way.... (cont)
AngryWomble 10 months ago
@AngryWomble
I have a neice that is uttlery adorable and fun to be around, the value I place on being around her is that it's great to see her grow up and I am one of the adults in her life that should be able to contribute to her being a happy and stable child as she grows up. Lets say that we're much further down the line and something was to happen to me and I died, everyone has a hard time dealing with the loss of a family member but kids more so (cont)
AngryWomble 10 months ago
@AngryWomble
So losing one of her aunts would really be a knock to my neice and make her upset, which might add extra stress to the rest of my family as they try and help her through her grief. And you want me to quantify the objective value of someone not having that emotional distress? Maybe it's me not thinking outside of my box but I thought the value of people not going through that was obvious.
AngryWomble 10 months ago
@ThePuppyTurtle What possible value do you consider life to have if you think you are going to live forever? My life - and the lives of others, in my eyes - has GREAT value, because I recognize the brevity of life, and the opportunity I have here to experience life. This most likely is the ONLY chance any of us ever has to live, therefore it brings extreme value and meaning not only to life, but to every single moment of it. When is the last time you cherished a moment?
JamesMorlan 9 months ago
awesome vid dude great job
SuperDeadplant 10 months ago
Great video. It's so true.
mctiny1 10 months ago
Having lived in the mostly agnostic society of Japan for the past twelve years, I don't think religion is necessary for most . Most can find meaning without it (a few can't it seems though).
I also find that science has both proven parts of religious beliefs to either be very incorrect or highly unlikely, and that it is science that has brought us the furthest.
Gokunama 10 months ago
Epic vid lef, well done. You win 10 Womble points :D
AngryWomble 10 months ago
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
flabbygrowlers 10 months ago