And I think when Jesse thought he heard Caylee in the background is because when Casey said, "Get down" it made Jesse assume it was Caylee. So without really thinking about it, it stuck in his mind it was her. That's what Casey wanted him to believe.
Lee's saying Casey could be threatened. Ya, sure she was. If she were being threatened she wouldn't be happy go lucky and out and about partying, in a hot body contest, you name it, happy as a lark. She'd be frightened instead. And why not run to the cops then? Bull!
Watching the parents of these two, i wouldn't blame the mom. I would blame the dad for their "lack of empathy". Or just a mental illness and i bet the sociopathic tendancies come from his side. Mental illness may come from hers but lets face it, he was a cop lol. jk some cops are ok
Jesse isn't the only one who thought they heard Caylee's jibberish in the background. Shirlie Plesea stated that her answering machine picked up a recording of a child that was "jibber jabbing" with alot of noise in the background. She stated that it happened more than one time and it sounded like a recording. Casey was playing the 06/15/2008 recording for them so they could tell Cindy they heard Caylee. Casey couldn't use it on Cindy - she would recognize sound track.
@mimmiesue22 When Jesse heard what he thought was Caylee when Casey stated something like "get off the table" or something to that effect, I feel that Casey was talking to the cat that lives in the Anthony home. There is a picture of the cat that is sitting on the kitchen table in the Anthony home.
@hoosierdaddyinsfca Nothing...yet. I suppose one might argue that proposing marriage to a sociopath might be construed as doing something wrong, but c'est la vie. As long as he is under scrutiny by the homicide unit, he is deemed to have some sort of knowledge of some event(s). He may not even know he knows. However, until he is cleared, much as Mr. Lazarro was when he copped a plea, he is by extension of his relationship with CA, not in a good place. One might argue that he knows her the best.
@hoosierdaddyinsfca I know if I were trying this case, he sure as shit would have been on my witness list, whether I was prosecuting or defending. He has intrinsic precursory knowledge of this woman's habits, moods, behaviors, states of mind, and potential reactionary predispositions to events that have occurred in her life, like when he dumped her and she went nuts. I know he was deposed, but why he is not being called to testify stymies me. Besides her parents, he likely knows her best.
I hate it when a person trying to get a word in edge- wise and the person talking WILL CONSTANTLY TALK LOUDER UNTIL HE IS SCREAMING AND THE OTHER PERSON BACKS DOWN. grrr.
Seirra, very good point about the cat. I never thought of that before.
Yeah I agree about what Jesse may have heard when on the telephone with Casey. Or I thought well maybe she staged it as if Caylee was in the background since she knew he always kind of asked about oh where's Caylee right now type thing. Maybe she used a video of Caylee in the background to make it sound like she was there. Like something like that one where nobody is really talking just capturing footage and sounds of Caylee.
Lee is running around, trying to play detective, when #1, he should be focusing on getting the truth from KC, #2 cooperating w/cops, & #3 letting the cops do their job. For instance, the cops could pull up all this phone info, about who & what KC is texting, etc., a lot faster than he can, running around trying to be CSI. How the Anthonys could have been helpful is about KC's history, her psychology, etc. Other evidence the cops will get, and a lot faster than he can, hunting up gossip..
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! He's not even credible anyway. He just lies to everybody based on who he is talking to at the time, then he turns around and says something about each of them behind their backs. His parents, his sister, Jesse and his parents, all these friends he's talking to, the police, the lawyers, EVERYBODY. Thinks he's all smart or something like he's humoring people. You can never tell when he's being sincere or he's just acting like he's all buddy buddy.
Sierra makes a good point in her note at the end of this video. Excellent thinking & something that easily could have happened. Jessie - just as any of us might - may have simply assumed who Casey was speaking to.
There is a subtle lack of empathy with Lee as well. All of his laughing with LE and now talking with Tony. Here he is asking this guy to help him, help his sister who just screwed Tony over and flippantly tells him (basically) "she was cheating on you" and "probably stole one of your checks". While trying to frame Jesse and Ricardo for his sociopath sister. Wow, Cindy you did good!
This is so interesting..thx for this. That's a good point about the cat as that may have been the case.... but I've listened to Jesse's interviews last week & he did mention Casy said Caylee's name & said sit afterwards or something to that effect. So if she did mention her name when she said to get off than, maybe she was with her then or if it was the cat like you say, she could have thought that a good opportunity to pretend it was Casey in the background to make it more realistic. hmm?
In Jesse's original statement to the police he said he thought he heard Caylee in the background and Casey saying "get off the table." Then Jesse wasn't actually sure. As time went on I spotted the Anthony's cat sitting on the table in the kitchen. This is why I felt Jesse might have heard the cat make a noise when Casey said "get off the table" . This call was on or about June 24th and Caylee was clearly gone by then.
Good idea Sierra, and also, maybe if Casey did say sit down or whatever she could have been talking to one of the little dogs. Maybe she was giving it a treat or something while she was talking to Jessie. If Casey was right there in the room with Caylee it makes sense that she would have seen Caylee starting to climb on the table and prevented her from doing so. And cats can sound like kids too when they make noises, especially if it would be over the phone?
@mcfrankie94 I still have the same feeling that it was the cat that was on the table when Casey stated: "get off the table". Casey was talking to Jesse from her home and no one was there as Caylee was already deceased. Not sure if they will bring this up at the trial, but I sure will be listening when they do. :)
And I think when Jesse thought he heard Caylee in the background is because when Casey said, "Get down" it made Jesse assume it was Caylee. So without really thinking about it, it stuck in his mind it was her. That's what Casey wanted him to believe.
XByTheShoreX 3 months ago
Lee's saying Casey could be threatened. Ya, sure she was. If she were being threatened she wouldn't be happy go lucky and out and about partying, in a hot body contest, you name it, happy as a lark. She'd be frightened instead. And why not run to the cops then? Bull!
XByTheShoreX 3 months ago
I think Tommy has something to do with it!!!
fatimagodoy2001 6 months ago
Watching the parents of these two, i wouldn't blame the mom. I would blame the dad for their "lack of empathy". Or just a mental illness and i bet the sociopathic tendancies come from his side. Mental illness may come from hers but lets face it, he was a cop lol. jk some cops are ok
JustABitchyCancer 7 months ago
@Sierra...That theory makes sense. That's what I think happened too.
lisakn27 8 months ago
if i was in that car w Lee at that time(or any other) i would slice my wrists!!!!
mcfrankie94 10 months ago
Jesse isn't the only one who thought they heard Caylee's jibberish in the background. Shirlie Plesea stated that her answering machine picked up a recording of a child that was "jibber jabbing" with alot of noise in the background. She stated that it happened more than one time and it sounded like a recording. Casey was playing the 06/15/2008 recording for them so they could tell Cindy they heard Caylee. Casey couldn't use it on Cindy - she would recognize sound track.
mimmiesue22 11 months ago
@mimmiesue22 When Jesse heard what he thought was Caylee when Casey stated something like "get off the table" or something to that effect, I feel that Casey was talking to the cat that lives in the Anthony home. There is a picture of the cat that is sitting on the kitchen table in the Anthony home.
Sierra1947 11 months ago
@Sierra1947 Reto Jesse Hearing CayleeCat “Get off the table”
Casey Anthony is a waste of human flesh whose depravity knows no bounds. . . Hopefully she’ll be ON THE TABLE faster than CayleeCat can wink its eye!
mimmiesue22 10 months ago
It really bugs me when anyone speaks ill of Jesse Grund!
hoosierdaddyinsfca 11 months ago
@hoosierdaddyinsfca Why is that?
MageSutek 8 months ago
@MageSutek What has he done wrong?
hoosierdaddyinsfca 8 months ago
@hoosierdaddyinsfca Nothing...yet. I suppose one might argue that proposing marriage to a sociopath might be construed as doing something wrong, but c'est la vie. As long as he is under scrutiny by the homicide unit, he is deemed to have some sort of knowledge of some event(s). He may not even know he knows. However, until he is cleared, much as Mr. Lazarro was when he copped a plea, he is by extension of his relationship with CA, not in a good place. One might argue that he knows her the best.
MageSutek 8 months ago
@hoosierdaddyinsfca I know if I were trying this case, he sure as shit would have been on my witness list, whether I was prosecuting or defending. He has intrinsic precursory knowledge of this woman's habits, moods, behaviors, states of mind, and potential reactionary predispositions to events that have occurred in her life, like when he dumped her and she went nuts. I know he was deposed, but why he is not being called to testify stymies me. Besides her parents, he likely knows her best.
MageSutek 8 months ago
I hate it when a person trying to get a word in edge- wise and the person talking WILL CONSTANTLY TALK LOUDER UNTIL HE IS SCREAMING AND THE OTHER PERSON BACKS DOWN. grrr.
Seirra, very good point about the cat. I never thought of that before.
cINDYNILE 2 years ago
zzzzzzzzzzz Lee loves to hear himself talk..
cINDYNILE 2 years ago
ONE QUESTION - how could you not know when the last day you saw your childwas? EH!
karenmorland 2 years ago
Yeah I agree about what Jesse may have heard when on the telephone with Casey. Or I thought well maybe she staged it as if Caylee was in the background since she knew he always kind of asked about oh where's Caylee right now type thing. Maybe she used a video of Caylee in the background to make it sound like she was there. Like something like that one where nobody is really talking just capturing footage and sounds of Caylee.
RandiSierra 2 years ago
Lee is running around, trying to play detective, when #1, he should be focusing on getting the truth from KC, #2 cooperating w/cops, & #3 letting the cops do their job. For instance, the cops could pull up all this phone info, about who & what KC is texting, etc., a lot faster than he can, running around trying to be CSI. How the Anthonys could have been helpful is about KC's history, her psychology, etc. Other evidence the cops will get, and a lot faster than he can, hunting up gossip..
ADenny12 2 years ago 2
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! He's not even credible anyway. He just lies to everybody based on who he is talking to at the time, then he turns around and says something about each of them behind their backs. His parents, his sister, Jesse and his parents, all these friends he's talking to, the police, the lawyers, EVERYBODY. Thinks he's all smart or something like he's humoring people. You can never tell when he's being sincere or he's just acting like he's all buddy buddy.
RandiSierra 2 years ago
yep Lee blame jesse and the cops but NOOO dont blame casey. and screw that threatend or not I would DIE looking for my daughter casey is GUILTY!!!!!!
whitelight6970 2 years ago
Sierra makes a good point in her note at the end of this video. Excellent thinking & something that easily could have happened. Jessie - just as any of us might - may have simply assumed who Casey was speaking to.
susanreynolds 2 years ago
There is a subtle lack of empathy with Lee as well. All of his laughing with LE and now talking with Tony. Here he is asking this guy to help him, help his sister who just screwed Tony over and flippantly tells him (basically) "she was cheating on you" and "probably stole one of your checks". While trying to frame Jesse and Ricardo for his sociopath sister. Wow, Cindy you did good!
christmas1971 2 years ago 7
This is so interesting..thx for this. That's a good point about the cat as that may have been the case.... but I've listened to Jesse's interviews last week & he did mention Casy said Caylee's name & said sit afterwards or something to that effect. So if she did mention her name when she said to get off than, maybe she was with her then or if it was the cat like you say, she could have thought that a good opportunity to pretend it was Casey in the background to make it more realistic. hmm?
PPhotoProductions 2 years ago
In Jesse's original statement to the police he said he thought he heard Caylee in the background and Casey saying "get off the table." Then Jesse wasn't actually sure. As time went on I spotted the Anthony's cat sitting on the table in the kitchen. This is why I felt Jesse might have heard the cat make a noise when Casey said "get off the table" . This call was on or about June 24th and Caylee was clearly gone by then.
Sierra1947 2 years ago
I share your gut feeling as well on this one, Patty.
dharamsala55 2 years ago
Good idea Sierra, and also, maybe if Casey did say sit down or whatever she could have been talking to one of the little dogs. Maybe she was giving it a treat or something while she was talking to Jessie. If Casey was right there in the room with Caylee it makes sense that she would have seen Caylee starting to climb on the table and prevented her from doing so. And cats can sound like kids too when they make noises, especially if it would be over the phone?
daytodaylife 2 years ago
@Sierra1947 GREAT JOB!!! WITH the cat therory......i know it's not a fact. but wow great pick-up
mcfrankie94 10 months ago
@mcfrankie94 I still have the same feeling that it was the cat that was on the table when Casey stated: "get off the table". Casey was talking to Jesse from her home and no one was there as Caylee was already deceased. Not sure if they will bring this up at the trial, but I sure will be listening when they do. :)
Sierra1947 10 months ago
Typically someone wears a wire when the police have leverage to charge them for drug offenses.
levatorannie 2 years ago 2
I was thinking the same thing when reading the transcripts with Tony and LE and knowing about the roommate and pot and benzos. I agree!
christmas1971 2 years ago
thanks for sharing that sierra
AlwaysChaotic 2 years ago
Oh wow Jackass Lee's new discovery!!!!!!
His sister is a slut!!!!!!
wow,I hope he tells the police,prob they didn't know *rollseyes*
SassyBB 2 years ago 5