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  • esse golpe é pra matar...

  • Good!!

    is very good.....oss

  • I want good flexibility so bad it hurts. I want to pull off the ushiromawashigeri so it looks cool. Now I have to tilt my body 90¤ to get my leg up there. I've been stretching for almost 3 years, no results.

  • @GreenMindist i am want speed and it hurt to look at move so beautifully performed and so fast.

  • excellent, great control.

  • very good!! Oss Sensei

  • I practiced Shotokan for 5 years and really it's not so good style of fight,u feel like robot,i was better better in Ushiro ura mawashi geri with jump and i'm better just in smoking cz i stopped practiced sport,for all karate man u need some gymnastics

  • @SuperParanox you just should have more training

  • @SomewhereInSiberia ok,you still young,keep training and good luck

  • You say there are no throws in Shotokan, yet I have seen Kanazawa sensei use them and demonstrate them a long time ago.

  • @SenseiRemo whats throws you mean ?

  • @SenseiRemo whats throws u mean ?

  • Buah! Absolutely unexceptional

  • very controld kick, oss from switzerland

  • @BushiWaazup Cont: We have moved on from these times and how we train today is relevant to today. I'm not knocking Shoto Kan, I have trained in Shoto Kan for longer than I care to remember and will continue to, karate history is a fascinating subject, sometimes looking back can help us move forward.

  • @BushiWaazup I believe the omissions go further back than Funakoshi, his teachers Azato & Itosu (and their teacher Matsamura) liked hitting hard as in hikken hisattsu, it is believed that Matsamura and Itosu left out ground fighting etc because Shuri Te was altered to protect others (the Sho King) and not self defence, If you were defending against 2 or 3 assailants, the last thing you would do is go to ground, therefore lose groundd fighting, I think this was what was passed to Funakoshi: cont

  • @BushiWaazup Don't get me wrong, I myself teach several veriations to one technique in kata and the bunkai should be relevant to the 21st century. My point was that there are no throws, grappling or ground fighting in Shoto Kan thats why it's an incomplete system (yes we are adding them now as we develop with the reinvention of bunkai). I believe that these techniques were not lost, but were removed for a reason and I would love to find the original bunkai.

  • Cont: I spent more than one or two decade thinking that karate was punching & kicking because thats all we needed. Shoto Kan is not for sef defence, we are training in an incomplete system that had a specific use many years ago, destroy or maime with one punch is not the "do" of the 21st century, the truth lies in the past and is lost. If we knew the truth there wouldn't be 10 or 20 explanations for one move in kata.

  • It was also because of Nakayama that the JKA did not train with weapons as other styles did, after WW2 all martial arts were banned. In order to reopen karate classes, Nakayama convinced the authorities that karate was an armless form of Chinese boxingand that they did not train with weapons. The only time I have seen weapons in Shoto Kan is during demo's. Shoto Kan has no weapons, throws and grappling and are only now being integrated by back engineering the kata: cont.

  • "Do" does not mean that martial aspect has been removed; rather, someething else has been added. Further, training with JKA Dallas, we do not see an elimination of close in grappling or locking technique. We recognize multiple possible Bunkai for any given technique in a kata; also realizing that timing and distancing will change when you consider that the interpretation of a move in kata will change if you think your attacker is empty handed or may be using something like a bo;

  • (continuation) Sochin is a case in point. The techniques in the kata will be interpreted very differently if the perceived attacker is wielding a bo, than if the attacker is empty handed. Both interpretations can be possible and correct. Same with Gojushiho, or Bassaidai. There are all manner of possibilities within the first 14 movements of Bassaidai for joint manipulation, locking, and throwing. Do the JKA interpretations in the kata videos Nakayama made emphasize striking? Yes (cont)

  • @mallardgreen but the videos are essentially pointed at beginners. I can't speak for every JKA dojo, but we often see multiple consecutive movements in kata all directed against the same opponent, including grappling, locking, throwing, taking away a weapon and turning it back against an attacker, etc. We practice karate-do, but with very serious martial applications, and see no contradiction.

  • Also, if one is training in kata at the moment from the perspective of instilling particular body mechanics, and that is the goal at the moment, one will approach kata training in a different way. I maintain that both can be done. Kata can be practiced as training in body mechanics, and it can be practiced as training for real life application. Maintaining that it has to be one or the other is really setting up a false dichotomy.

  • "Do" simply means way, and does not necessarily remove martial aspect from an art. Iaido, the "way" of drawing the sword, has lost none of its capacity to be deadly. Okinawan karate, like Japanese karate, is p elements. Both practice kumite in controlled fashion. Both can be used in real life self-defense situations. It has been unfortunately necessary for me to resort to self defense twice with Japanese karate. It worked. Quickly.

  • @mallardgreen The term "do" as used to differ with jutsu does certainly imply that the martial aspect is not considered, otherwise, they would not have made the distinction (by law, BTW). It is substantiated by the practice and and syllabus of the JKA and it's lineages in that they practice only punching, kicking and hard blocking under a tournament intended approach. Karate is not that limited by far nor is it practiced that way. All Okinawan karate I have been exposed to SEE 2

  • @mallardgreen 2 and can view on the net is approached as a martial art, the original intent. Shu ha ri itself gives rise to changes that are natural to a specific style but that type change is not the change the JKA intended. Different styles on Okinawa are a different approach to the same end, a martial art. Nakayama had nothing like that in mind, he was Japanese and wanted his efforts to fit under Budo and that is what he did, gut karate and make it a tournament sport. Iai has a slightly SEE 3

  • @mallardgreen 3 different flavor as it is very difficult to hide the use of a katana under the Budo philosophy. Changing the nature of punching and kicking and focusing on only large/hard blocking is quite easy in that all that is needed is to alter the approach to tournaments and any combatively educated techniques will require change to fit that format and constant distance. The elements that are negated by doing so are the heart and soul of karate, especially that of kusho. SEE 4

  • @mallardgreen 4 In making a change years ago form the JKA to Okinawan karate it became very clear that the quality of technique I had learned and taught as a JKA member could not be used combatively as distance is the key in it's use and no enemy wants to spar, they want to be close in order to injure you. The absence of the remaining karate syllabus was another matter, so, I had to re-learn all that I knew and learn most of what I currently have as the JKA does not teach it, it is dangerous.

  • Why would I presume that Funakoshi's way had been perfected? Shito-ryu, Wado-ryu, Shotokan all altered technique from original shuri-te or naha-te roots; Okinawan karate itself is not unified; Shorin-ryu and Goju-ryu and Uechi-ryu, Isshin-ryu, are different styles because they approach technique differently. Has Shotokan perfected karate? I know of no JKA instructor or instructor of JKA lineage who would claim such a thing. Are they so terrible as some suggest? Not by a long shot.

  • @mallardgreen By theh time Funakoshi was taught Okinawa Te' by Itosu & Azato (once or twice by Matsamura) the real reason for the jutsu had gone, he was taught a sanatized version of Te' without the "secrets" and this is what he took to Japan, not only did he make Te' a Japanese art, he sanitized it even further and made it karate Do, it was no longer about fighting, defence of others and self, it became a Do' to fit in with the Japanese way of thinking. Now its a Do' and now its Japanese.

  • is it not ushiro mawashi geri thats what i was taght

  • Hello all. A very heartfelt OUS!! to all karateka and budo-ka. A technical question please.

    I see Sensei Kagawa performing a very beautiful kick to the young man's neck (or the back of) I teach Okinawan Isshinryu (go-dan) The technique in question (in Okinawan terms) is KAGI GERI--"hook kick". I am assuming "ura mawashi" is a 'reverse' roundhouse kick??  Is this term universal for all SHOTOKAN or for all Japanese karate. And do you all have a hook kick--what is the term for it. THANKS!!

  • @tamichalak Hi, having trained in Shotokan for over 30 years, I was taught this as ushiro mawashi which would be the same as ura (back) I have also heard it refered to incorrectly as gyaka mawashi (which is a totaly different kick) but I would agree that kagi is an accurate term for this kick and I have used this term my self.

  • @KANKU56

    ushiro mawashi is different than ura mawashi (this one) here.. in ushiro you make a spin while in ura you go staight to the reverse mawashi as you see above.. look it up in a vid..:)

    osu!

  • @polikariolis

    I think this is the point, we all call the same kick by different names, to me ushiro geri is back kick, ushiro mawashi geri is back mawashi geri (opposite to a "normal" mawashi geri) I still think that kagi geri sums the kick up

  • @tamichalak KAGI sounds correct to me. People seem to repeat what they hear others calling the techniques. Ushiro means reverse, but is usually implies spinning. Ushiro Mawashi means that the knee is not bent in order to reach the target. Whereas kagi means hook (hidden, invisible or shadow). Therefore, the knee is bent, usually in order to reach around a barrier such as a blocking attempt. Ura means inverted as in "ura tsuki" or upside-down punch which is delivered with the palm facing up.

  • @osensei2987 I think we are going to have to agree on Kagi my friend, again, as you said, we repeat what we hear, if our sensei are taught one way, this is what they pass on, and this is how it goes round. I suppose it also depends on how our Japanese sensei translate, eg, BACK: ushiro, ura, haigo and rimen REAR: ushiro, hiago, ato, however rimen (back) is also translated as reverse. Look at English, back, rear,behind are used to describe the same thing, no wonder I'm confused.

  • @KANKU56 OSU!

  • @osensei2987 Ura = the reverse of, ushiro = the rear, gyaku = opposite. "Ura mawashi geri jodan, gyaku ashi, ushiro ni onagaishimasu." Reverse roundhouse to the head with the other leg and behind you, please."Improper structure, shows the use of the terms. This is a poor kick, dangerous to the user as the back is exposed, the leg is high and can be caught, balance can be compromised easily and is just tactically dumb. It also is not in karate, the martial art, but a sport by the JKA.

  • @IEKUKATAKA I hear you bro! JKA and Nakayamaism is the hight of arrogance, is it not? There is not a mawashi geri to be found anywhere in kata. Not even in Shotokan kata. It is obviously added as a sports oriented device. I wish I could find a vid of funakoshi doing a Heian kata. It bet Funakoshi never taught yoko geri to his university boys either.

  • @osensei2987 Mawashi geri, ura mawashi geri, yoko keage, jiten ura ken, ura ken to the head period, jiten ushiro geri, haito (JKA executed), yoko kikomi (JKA executed), shuto (JKA executed), all contrived and/or not executed in Okinawan karate the same. Generally not actually combat usable in total because it is a sport, not a martial art (sorry JKA enthusiasts, Budo does not really mean martial art. Do implies no enemy, no effectiveness considerations, it's a Japanese thing).

  • @osensei2987 BTW, be careful agreeing with me, I am the duty target of the deluded, the proud, the kool aid drinker and those from the UK absolutely think I am a karate heretic.

  • @osensei2987 Crap, you got me on my soap box!! Funakoshi didn't do karate the JKA "activity" way, he told Nakayama he was going astray. Watch the You tube video of Oshima doing Hangetsu. The JKA crowd would be spitting and fuming about his feet being out of position one arc second, his back is not plumb (as in kendo), his hip rotation is too little, three hairs are out of place, he has some miso soup on his gi and any number of nonsense critiques unrelated to the fighting art of Okinawa.

  • @osensei2987 ;)' Howsat bro??

  • @IEKUKATAKA Bitter medicine is often the most effective. Nakayama was from a family of kendo instructors. He stumbled into Funakoshi's karate class by accident while trying to find the university's Kendo class. Naturally, Nakayama was young, arrogant and full of Japanese nationalism. Coming from a Kendo tradition and with the aid (sadly) of Gigo Funakoshi, Nakayama set out to "improve" karate and create a Japanized version of Karate. Which is why sports Karate is just like fencing! IPPON!

  • @osensei2987 Ura, not easily perceived but not necessarily hidden. Japanese is a strange language, a language of characters rather than words, spelling, phonetics etc. Each character is a concept or a meaning. Ura can mean the reverse of, when you play cards, the side of your cards you can't see is "ura." However, consider the first use, is that what ura zuki means as that technique is very short and close and hard to see to react to. Tate, erect, mae, front. Used together they imply lying. ????

  • Great stuff. As for the position after the kick, I think to a certain degree that these moves were developed to he applied in self defense situations against an attacker that wouldn't necessarily be trained at the same level.  That said I think only really well conditioned karateka can use this move in any fight scenario. I sure wouldn't try it at my rank otherwise I'd get smoked! Osu!

  • @majin2912 It might be difficult in points competition. However, in a continuous fighting match, I think you could work it right in. Usually, techniques like these have a better chance of landing when they come naturally out of the flow of combat. Usually the opportunity is triggered by some event that takes place during the action of combat. Example: U are finishing a combo or an exchange or your opponent steps back and BOOM! There it is!

  • i actually like this alot ...

  • @BushiWaazup I see wot ya mean but actually i think that he's set himself up for a gud gyakuzuki if he needed it, an ye great stuff :D

  • nice!!!! thanks for sharing it!

  • @BushiWaazup  dude thats why in kumite you have to do Kamikazee thank you

  • Man he is sharp for his age, great respect for Sensei!

  • Ye true, he's unreal

  • He's a great sensei, I wish he came in my dojo in Lille (France). i learned a lot from his videos.

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