Hammond certainly has its fans, and as a former Hammond Organ salesman, I have to agree that the tonewheel models do have their own distinctive sounds and capabilities. However progress being what it is, technology has offered, and given, people what they want, in the way of new computerized, instruments. Now for the video; very well played indeed, and what a terrific short concise history of the Hammond era, -- I just had to save this one to my favorites! Thank you for sharing.
@patrol681 - Like you I too sold Hammonds and serviced them in the 70s and 80s. I love the new technology allowing complete orchestrations with sampled sounds but personally would much rather play an old Hammond. Thank for the kind words!
it would be an interesting experiment to see someone record a Concorde, or B3000, or an Aurora up against a B3 console or M100 spinet with a Leslie 122. Kinda like an organ dual. I would buy that record.
I prefer the old tonewheel generated organs A,B,C,RT-3 etc. All mechanical all tubes. I own a A100 with a Leslie 251, and it doesn't sound like this. This music reminds me of being in a mall in the early 80's with a bunch of old ladys getting their hair done. The oldest Piano/Organ store in my town hasn't seen a tonewheel since the 1980's and a L.S.I. organ since 1998 which was an Aurora Classic. They now sell on Yamaha Piano and organs
@Segs79 I too loved the tone wheel organs had an M-100 and a B-3 that I played in lounges for many years - I have to laugh since I was one those guys that demonstrated Hammond organs in malls, home shows and fairs back in the late 70s and 80s. I do however love my Concorde even though it uses LSI technology instead of the old mechanical tone generators.
@Hamaround nice, before I bought my A100, I owned a M111. I ended up giving it away to a friend after I got the A100, she broke the motors. I never did show her how to start it properly. I meant no disrespect in what i said. I find the sound of the LSI organs very bright. I come from the rock, blues and jazz world where the slightly distorted growl of a B3 or its tonewheel sisters and cousins dominate. For me the LSI organs seem more nostalgic cause I rarely here or seem them.
@Segs79 It all depends how you play it. I've heard cheeseball tonewheel players too. And how much do you want to bet those old ladies in the early 80's had more of a taste for the man with the most taste- Jesse Crawford? My favorite organ is the one I'm in the mood to play the most. Just got a Hammond Elegante cheap, so can't conclude yet whether it will be my favorite organ, but out of 9 other organs I play my Wurlitzer 4500 the most. The flutes through the Spectratone are very addictive!
Love the sound at 1:06. That's the effect I loved so much on the Hammond X-66 and the X-77 models. Are there any other Hammond models can replicate this "chime" sound? Loved the Hammond X-66 that used to be at the old Forum in Los Angeles where the Lakers and Kings hockey team played, before they moved to Staples Center. Thanks.
@koasterkav Hammond had some great percussion effects starting with the X66 and X77 and carried them forward in the Concorde reminds me of the old Wurlitzer Theater organ at the Rollercade in Cleveland where I skated many moons ago.
@Hamaround Love those Wurlitzer's too. Oh I forgot the great Shay Torrent at the Hammond at Anaheim (now Angel) Stadium "The Big A" playing for the Angels. I think he used a Concorde. Your playing reminded me of him.
Very nice playing. Love the Hammond sound you played here, with the chime effect in the middle. Sounds a lot like the X-66 they used to have at the old Fabulous Forum in Los Angeles, where the L.A. Lakers and Kings used to play. The X-66/X-77 were tone wheel organs and the Concorde is not?
@koasterkav - You're correct the X-66 & X-77 had tone wheel generators but were not the same style used in the older consoles like the B-3. Thank for your comments!
Yea what a shame to try to inprove on something great like the B3-C3-A100 and do nothing but fail miserably and make junk and trash like those models in the clip above. Its like you already know its trash just by seeing anything on it other than colors black, brown, and white lol. Looking in the back of those things looks more complicated and foolish with all of that solid state transistor garbage in there. Tisk Tisk Tisk what a shame...
It wasn't that they were trying to improve things as much as they were trying to compete with the other top organ manufactures of the day, both in features and price. Some of the electronic organs they produced like the Concorde had its glory days being used by Lenny Dee, Jimmy McGriff and other top organists of the time and it was popular in roller rinks across the nation. Hammonds always had a unique sound, tone wheels or not and they will be treasured by many for years to come.
I can tell the sound difference in the Concorde series. I have a 2182, and it's more bright sounding. The 2300's have the more gutsy sound. Hammond added some more filter boards in the 2300 to achieve that sound (I have the service manual, so I know what went inside the 2300 vs. the 2100.
You must have a good ear seeing the recording is not to clean. I was a serviceman for a large Hammond distributor in Cleveland. The 2300 Concordes came out about the time I moved on. I always liked the sound plus they were a lot of fun to play.
Hammond certainly has its fans, and as a former Hammond Organ salesman, I have to agree that the tonewheel models do have their own distinctive sounds and capabilities. However progress being what it is, technology has offered, and given, people what they want, in the way of new computerized, instruments. Now for the video; very well played indeed, and what a terrific short concise history of the Hammond era, -- I just had to save this one to my favorites! Thank you for sharing.
patrol681 1 year ago
@patrol681 - Like you I too sold Hammonds and serviced them in the 70s and 80s. I love the new technology allowing complete orchestrations with sampled sounds but personally would much rather play an old Hammond. Thank for the kind words!
Hamaround 1 year ago
it would be an interesting experiment to see someone record a Concorde, or B3000, or an Aurora up against a B3 console or M100 spinet with a Leslie 122. Kinda like an organ dual. I would buy that record.
Segs79 1 year ago
I prefer the old tonewheel generated organs A,B,C,RT-3 etc. All mechanical all tubes. I own a A100 with a Leslie 251, and it doesn't sound like this. This music reminds me of being in a mall in the early 80's with a bunch of old ladys getting their hair done. The oldest Piano/Organ store in my town hasn't seen a tonewheel since the 1980's and a L.S.I. organ since 1998 which was an Aurora Classic. They now sell on Yamaha Piano and organs
Segs79 1 year ago
@Segs79 I too loved the tone wheel organs had an M-100 and a B-3 that I played in lounges for many years - I have to laugh since I was one those guys that demonstrated Hammond organs in malls, home shows and fairs back in the late 70s and 80s. I do however love my Concorde even though it uses LSI technology instead of the old mechanical tone generators.
Hamaround 1 year ago
@Hamaround nice, before I bought my A100, I owned a M111. I ended up giving it away to a friend after I got the A100, she broke the motors. I never did show her how to start it properly. I meant no disrespect in what i said. I find the sound of the LSI organs very bright. I come from the rock, blues and jazz world where the slightly distorted growl of a B3 or its tonewheel sisters and cousins dominate. For me the LSI organs seem more nostalgic cause I rarely here or seem them.
Segs79 1 year ago
@Segs79 It all depends how you play it. I've heard cheeseball tonewheel players too. And how much do you want to bet those old ladies in the early 80's had more of a taste for the man with the most taste- Jesse Crawford? My favorite organ is the one I'm in the mood to play the most. Just got a Hammond Elegante cheap, so can't conclude yet whether it will be my favorite organ, but out of 9 other organs I play my Wurlitzer 4500 the most. The flutes through the Spectratone are very addictive!
paulj0557 7 months ago
Love the sound at 1:06. That's the effect I loved so much on the Hammond X-66 and the X-77 models. Are there any other Hammond models can replicate this "chime" sound? Loved the Hammond X-66 that used to be at the old Forum in Los Angeles where the Lakers and Kings hockey team played, before they moved to Staples Center. Thanks.
koasterkav 1 year ago
@koasterkav Hammond had some great percussion effects starting with the X66 and X77 and carried them forward in the Concorde reminds me of the old Wurlitzer Theater organ at the Rollercade in Cleveland where I skated many moons ago.
Hamaround 1 year ago
@Hamaround Love those Wurlitzer's too. Oh I forgot the great Shay Torrent at the Hammond at Anaheim (now Angel) Stadium "The Big A" playing for the Angels. I think he used a Concorde. Your playing reminded me of him.
koasterkav 1 year ago
@koasterkav Thanks again for the kind words!
Hamaround 1 year ago
@koasterkav what the the staple center have today for a organ
amtrc 2 months ago
@patsaxon - I also sold Hammonds around the same time the Concorde was released. When I wasn't selling them I was serviceing them!
Hamaround 1 year ago
Nice pictures, nice music, too! Of cause.
But I think you can play better things?
MrBeaver11000 1 year ago
Think again this is about as good as it gets for me!
Hamaround 1 year ago
Very nice playing. Love the Hammond sound you played here, with the chime effect in the middle. Sounds a lot like the X-66 they used to have at the old Fabulous Forum in Los Angeles, where the L.A. Lakers and Kings used to play. The X-66/X-77 were tone wheel organs and the Concorde is not?
koasterkav 1 year ago
@koasterkav - You're correct the X-66 & X-77 had tone wheel generators but were not the same style used in the older consoles like the B-3. Thank for your comments!
Hamaround 1 year ago
Just Great!!!
Goran
goranade 2 years ago
Thanks these old untrained, arthritic fingers do the best they can!
Hamaround 2 years ago
Yea what a shame to try to inprove on something great like the B3-C3-A100 and do nothing but fail miserably and make junk and trash like those models in the clip above. Its like you already know its trash just by seeing anything on it other than colors black, brown, and white lol. Looking in the back of those things looks more complicated and foolish with all of that solid state transistor garbage in there. Tisk Tisk Tisk what a shame...
CurtBrian 2 years ago
It wasn't that they were trying to improve things as much as they were trying to compete with the other top organ manufactures of the day, both in features and price. Some of the electronic organs they produced like the Concorde had its glory days being used by Lenny Dee, Jimmy McGriff and other top organists of the time and it was popular in roller rinks across the nation. Hammonds always had a unique sound, tone wheels or not and they will be treasured by many for years to come.
Hamaround 2 years ago
This is not a Hammond Concord organ! It is an older Hammond organ, possibly an L series?
patsaxon 2 years ago
Sorry - It is a Hammond Concorde Model 2312 with the output run through a Alesis audio processor not a tone wheel model as you stated.
Hamaround 2 years ago
I miss my A-100 and Leslie 251, it's in storage at the moment :(
Segs79 3 years ago
I can tell the sound difference in the Concorde series. I have a 2182, and it's more bright sounding. The 2300's have the more gutsy sound. Hammond added some more filter boards in the 2300 to achieve that sound (I have the service manual, so I know what went inside the 2300 vs. the 2100.
W4KSR 4 years ago
You must have a good ear seeing the recording is not to clean. I was a serviceman for a large Hammond distributor in Cleveland. The 2300 Concordes came out about the time I moved on. I always liked the sound plus they were a lot of fun to play.
Hamaround 4 years ago
Your Concorde has a nice sound. Must be the 2300 series?
W4KSR 4 years ago
Another fantastic performance! Five stars.
Organgrinder010 4 years ago
Your too kind, but I am having fun!
Hamaround 4 years ago