PR:BF2 Mod v0.75 - Suppression Effects

[E1nZwe1D1e]

what you get suppressed for the rest of the round after that? what a piece of shit idea.

[dismael2010]

bf3 stole your mod

[desetnik15second]

How do i remove that effect? I only play lan because i have no time for long multiplayer matches

[randy7027]

whats the point of this?

[Razorback613]

In the real world, when under suppressive fire, you experience high levels of fear. In games, when under suppressive fire, you just think "Oh, someone is shooting a lot... yawn... let me go this other way" or you just run around the fire. So, this type of mod, or effect, attempts to model what happens to a person in the real world when under heavy fire.

[Unicorn161]

Except this really isn't what happens to most people that have been shot at.

[Razorback613]

But how do you implement fear into a game? The point is to encourage the player to get away. In most games, people just look down the stream of bullets and aim for the AR gunner and take him out. By using a blurring effect, you eliminate that possibility.

[happygamestvfun1]

@Razorback613 Depends on the person tho....

[Razorback613]

@happygamestvfun1 Tell me that the next time you are under fire from a LMG. ;)

[happygamestvfun1]

@Razorback613 First I would probably be dead, so I counld not tell you, second if I did live then I would tell you I would be scared (but then again I would not know, becuase I have not been under LMG fire before, so this is just a guess and as started, "depends on the person" thus not referring to myself). Also some people have diffrent reactions to things, who knows they could be pumped up on adrenaline, so there are to many varibales to account for.

[desetnik15second]

@Razorback613 OK for lMG but not for every fuckin weapon in-game.

[MrRevoluzzer]

@desetnik15second Yes,every single weapon has this effect.. if you get shot even by a Pea-shooter like the MP5 "9mm SMG" you still get down so you dont get shot at.

the point of this effect is to force people take cover instead of just firing back like every single FPS,also.. in real life there's a lot of concrete,and when concrete is hit it's just like a mini-grenade exploding.. you would get hurt even if a round don't hit you directly.

[camper182]

when being supressed your aim is blurry so aiming is harder.

[LOLUNIT]

blurred camera goes for too long

[Sinriel]

That's true, but the idea is great. I want it in AA3. Great!

[dragonslayer1974]

how do you even launch the mod once installed

[gescoboza]

ArmA??? dude i'd rather play Americas Army instead of that

[realcrazyfox]

LOL wtf is that shit?!?!

In a good game u dont need shitty camera effects to feel supressed.

Example: watch?v=4aH_wJgeEDA

[ZeusOnIce]

You do realise that this is a trailer for suppressed fire not the blurred camera effect? -.-

[snorkel321]

Its in-game to simulate the stress and pressure u get when being under fire.

[Guang7]

hey guys when i launch PR mod, and click join game it freezes and i cant play. i launch from vanilla BF2 custom games. i cant launch from PR.exe cause it says not there or something. whats wrong and please tell me how to fix it. thanks

[Guang7]

hey gys, when i join a game in PR, it freezes and cant play. i launch from vanila BF2 custom games. whats wrong please help me. how do i fix it?

[SirBlackhawk5]

They will fix this in later release. It's funny how you can get supressed with 1 pistol bullet, or knife an object less than 1 m away. Mabye even surpessed by civilian rocks.

[ELITEnoOBno2]

@leonelp51: yea, your right. this really sux...

:/

[leonelp51]

I HATE THE SUPRESSION IS TOO EXAGERATED, only 1 bullet and i have shit on my pants ??? >:(

[WaroftheGalaxies]

I thought this suppression thing was already in .7?

Anyways, weird how they make so many updates after updates.

I think the Automatic Riflemen need to be towned down. I seen people with M249s mow down entire squads, it gets ridiculous...really.

[pikmindoctor]

But if it was turned down, it wouldn't be realistic. One thing that may need to be addresed is how easy it is to carry and aim certain weapons, but I'm not an expert.

[pikmindoctor]

(in responce to WaroftheGalaxies about the automatic rifleman)

[WaroftheGalaxies]

You're right... But guns like M249, are made for suppression not lethal killing. Every bullet from a M249 deals more dmg then a M16A4. It takes like 9 shots from a Three-Round Burst to take one guy out. While it takes like 20 shots from a M249 to take an entire squad out. Guns are all even in category, but it depends on the person who's using it that makes the gun up to its part.

[hewhosayszonk]

Basically any rifle in PR can kill in 1 - 2 shots if you make them count. Always use single shot unless the enemy is <5m. 3 round burst is a great way to waste 66% of your ammo at medium or long range. Anyway with wounding and suppression effects you don't need a kill to stop the enemy killing you, just hitting them improves your situation and makes it harder for them to respond so you can get the kill more easily.

[ozpowermo]

I think it should become gradually less dramatic as you take a lot of fire... it's more like a shock effect in battle, in the beginning you're stumped, but after a few shots fly by you, then you kinda get used to it and start firing back... They should dynamically change it to be a LITTLE bit less dramatic.

[pikmindoctor]

...or, maybe the kit slows you down, so it's only usefull for suppressing because you can't run into the battle like your other squad members can. Instead, you have to stay behind and give covering fire over a long distance then wait for the area to be clear before you can drag your heavy kit along and join the rest of the squad. Perhaps changing stances could be slowed down somehow, although the engine might not allow it.

[pikmindoctor]

...or, maybe the kit slows you down, so it's only usefull for suppressing because you can't run into the battle like your other squad members can. Instead, you have to stay behind and give covering fire over a long distance then wait for the area to be clear before you can drag your heavy kit along and join the rest of the squad. Perhaps changing stances could be slowed down somehow, although the engine might not allow it.

[BlackPhosphorus]

really good, they just need to tune it down a bit a little less haze so you dont walk off a cliff or sumin.

[Greatherlorre]

FREAKING HUEY!!!! 5/5

[d4rkl0rdBR]

Nice one!

ctz its the same guy from Forgotten Hope 2 ? Its seens like the same effect of the FH 2 supression. Now Automatic Rifleman will RULE :D

[newgambit94]

Didn't they already own everything in sight? ;D

[DSHeartbreak1]

Yea didn't thy?

[JamesPatison]

No, your thinking of just normal bf2

[JamesPatison]

No, your thinking of just normal bf2

[newgambit94]

Hehe, all medics own support in vanilla. :P

They have to prone to shoot in vanilla. In PR .7, it's possible to fire in bursts and land some kills standing up. I think the devs are working on that. ;)

[Spearhead78]

Judge the effect after experiencing it in the game. It's not meant to be simulating what people will see when they are under fire but rather how they feel/react.

[madosopia]

Ehm, isn't this a bit over the top?

Nice to see the Huey ingame, though!

[gazzthompson]

FINALLY SUPPRESSION !!!! WOOT WOOT !!

[Sellos23]

Hmmm well the idea and the effects are perfect

but I dont think its that real I mean ok I didnt get shot or dont know how it looks like but I dont think it will look like that and the Iron sight is now harder to aim, dont know if that is in reality to but I dont think so. and hmm this is on 0.75? I played it yesterday night and I dint had that effect. Somebody reply on me

[KingK0ng5]

Nononononono, NO!

This is a bad idea! It's too much - just leave it the way it is.

If you feel we need forced suppression effects so that we could "finaly have suppression that works", try watching some BFRecorder files.

SUPPRESSION WORKS FINE, people just don't get it!

Btw, IT'S [b]UNREAL[/b].

[deadwood223]

thank god, finally suppression that actually works

[Crunchieman]

i think it is fine as of .7, because bf2 suppresion effects are so crappy. leave it as it is.

[Crunchieman]

nice iron sights

[romagnolo]

It is too much intensive the new effect, but I liked to see news for PR. And that (OMG) Huey.

[Farksisten]

Ever checked the PR- dev journal?

[Ghostdayday]

Wow really they are the only dev team I know of that actually listens to outsiders thats why you got lots of contributors. Have you even passed by the forums. You pretty much know everything that is going out in a release long before its out. Go ahead crash them your CD key will be on print in no time.

[Teek28]

so, if "they dont even let the public know whats happening during the modding process" then what is this video? also, suggestions are usually thought of by the devs well before the public do.

[Largamelion]

I hope they didn't exaggerate... so when a bullet hits a wall 15 feet behind you, your screen blurs :(.

[LordEinar]

Oh LAWD is dat sum HUEY?

M.

aka "Expendable Grunt"

[ToftTheGreat]

PR FOR EVER! :D

[newgambit94]

That'll get more people to suppress troops! :D

I just hope us with poor comps don't lag like hell.

[Phoenix762mm]

I like

[Christopher4700]

awesome!:D