Falling Away / Adyashanti

[dingleberrys09]

ahh so refreshing.... ive come such a long way in a short amount of time. so proud of me lol

[80mthomas]

Excellent, "i" enjoyed this lol

[thomasnordwest]

The mind finds things to entangle iself with thinking games, if even it is just "oh it's too warm or too cold". Everything is better for the mind then falling away.

[yugcigameht]

@eaglerock999 Ah yes! I'm new to all this so I mistook the @ symbol for the speaker! Not even sure why I responded I usually don't say a thing. I guess my only response to you would lead us into something that I don't want to own (karmically that is.) So my response to your post about Buddha is good point!! It's silly for me to say anything when you have at your disposal Adyashanti! Namaste.

[yugcigameht]

Eaglerock999 - God can't be "sent" anywhere, God IS all of those things, and you. God needn't worry about anything, that would be like your entire body worrying about your belly button... What would be the point of worry?

[eaglerock999]

@yugcigameht I think you are mistaking me for hopaloop......you cant send God anywhere as you say,because God or reality is everywhere .

The mind wants to own God, Truth, Self,how can the wave tell the Ocean where to go ? Mind or ego is just a bundle of thoughts, an idea,it doesn't actually exist.

Thats the illusion the Buddha realised,the house builder was no more.There is no "you" to go hell or heaven after Self realisation.

No more animal body to play with itself...and suffer and die.

[hopaloop]

so does this mean I'm off the hook as far as hell and wanking goes.

[eaglerock999]

@hopaloop Who is aware of hell and wanking? that is the question and the answer.

[hopaloop]

@eaglerock999 only awareness can be aware. hell and wanking are but illusions of the mind. so God likes to wank but shouldn't worry about be sent to hell for it as it is only an illusion. Is this right, close or million miles off.

[eaglerock999]

@hopaloop There is no I as ego It is mind made sense of self,an illusion,like a wave thinks it is separate but in reality it is the Ocean.No such thing as a wave,it is merely the Ocean appearing like a wave that changes,Ocean is permanant wetness.

Hell and Heaven are places the "ego" goes too after death,both are undesirable resting places, the ego reincarnates in order to realise it is the eternal Ocean, no more rebirth, wanking is animal body release of sexual tension,no need for guilt.

[tvswnet]

@hopaloop  If you go to hell, you can wank all you want :-) Naw, there's no hell anyway...wank away, friend...

[marykh59]

go google living waters and take the good test!

[Countrychiddler]

I have seen real Spiritual Transmission and that is not a bunch of mind that carries words with it. When you look into the eyes of the Divine you can't settle for ego life.

[5tranger]

so if  God is everything and everything isn't perfect dose that mean God isn't perfect?

[Countrychiddler]

@5tranger God is prior to manifest existence. How perfect can you get?

[5tranger]

@Countrychiddler yes, so, God is still part of it and not separate from anything. THINGS may not appear perfect to our judgmental mind but when one goes beyond mind things may appear differently.

[tvswnet]

@5tranger The reverse, as I see it: Everything is perfect as it is divine. To see imperfection is for me to see through a lens of illusory comparative perfection. The only imperfect thing in all of creation is my assertion of imperfection. Once I realized that...freedom.

[Nacluw]

Why is this titled "Falling Away?" It makes me think Adya actually speaks about the feeling of falling away. Quite missleading.

[4theloveofgrace]

I kept hearing in a soft gentle voice simple "wake up!". Wake up! Come here.. you don't have to suffer! Words can't express my gratitude.

[hawstom]

wow, Wow, WOW! There is awakeness, and there is Master teaching. Mooji and Tolle and Adyashanti are Master teachers for here and now. Thank you, Adyashanti. Thank you for giving. Love, Tom

[TheBeeblebrox]

@NYCw66 There is no problem in material things giving happiness to you... and there is no problem in them not giving it... don't fall into the trap of using buzzwords like enlightened, slightly enlightened, etc. ..... words are there to fool us :) ... it's only when you know that you are not whatever you think you are, and just something that is aware of itself and that the awareness will last only ephemerally, you realize the meaninglessness inherent in all such questions themselves :) :)

[trainwreckhavoc]

@NYCw66 That state does not make 'me' feel good. The essence of it is completely selfless. And one would choose to 'do it' while they are alive because it is the only way to truly live.

[trainwreckhavoc]

@NYCw66 I can say with all sincerity that I have experienced a small awakening and it has been absolutely life changing. An internal wisdom has arisen in me, problems have lost much their power and significance, and my desires and craving for materialistic success have been fading. Don't we wonder where all of our unease comes from? That quiet restless feeling that drives us to seek short lived pleasures? It's because we have forgotten what we are. We are God, essence, spirit, and eternal.

[EspressoPictures]

@trainwreckhavoc

well said :)

[joinery11]

Such a clever man, so very helpful, the more i watch these vids the more i learn and realise and change, i love it, yet another wonderful lesson. Peace.

[99ialwzwin]

What i have perceived lately is that those thoughts of inadequacy are actually somewhat triggered by the routine that follow in daily life. As if our whole day is dominated by the mind and that what is happening and might happen is real and important.

[mark1952able]

Sting wrote a song about it! We are spirits in the material world

[Radio238]

Everything isn't spirit nor an expression of spirit, though it can be interpreted that way. Otherwise it's pure dualism. But it's possible he was speaking metephorically from the outset, and in that sense, everything IS connected as one, beyond the level of percepton and dualism. It certainly doesn't SOUND like it when he says from the start that bodies and everything else are an expression of spirit - it would be simpler to clear that up from the outset - but it's possible. Context is everythin

[HappyMusicGrowSpirit]

Really great, so true, mind does create that constantly playing tricks, but ive come to realise everything is spirit all the time no matter what. Have been experiencing this alot more lately.

[crystallightbody]

I'm a rotten slob too!

[leanintolife]

makes me laugh:) thank you...

[mikedowd66]

no, there is something wrong with thinking.

[Samadhimushin]

What also is an idea about thinking.

Thinking about thinking..

[meghan42]

But there is something wrong in the world, no?

[bezhamster]

i think he's hot.

but anyway, he talks about a level of abstraction of life, that most of us cannot begin to comprehend. i remember being quite sceptic about this, but what is there to deny or confront? it's all true and makes sense. that's why it conflicts with science"everything can be challenged, apart from the truth which we will never know"

[tramwreck]

Elightenment is serving humankind with nothing but joy. Do THAT in the present, but it will take you getting off your chair. You hear me Adyashanti! Its me the otherside of the collective consciouness.

[Miluion2]

adya is freakin funny

[pizzahutgood]

Did the term "grock" come from somewhere in particular, or is he just playing off of it from the book "Stranger in a Strange Land." Random question...

[bonniherself]

Yes, "grok" is from Stranger in a Strange Land. It's such a great concept/word that it has been absorbed into the general language by a lot of people.

[CulturePeaceForever]

But all the crap inside Before one becomes "realized"is the hardworking time,before the "grock"or the no-ego-completely becomes attained! But how these young people attain it so young.........................­............

[nicholaspowiull]

Tag you're It. Yup that's you, all of It.

[deliciousonionsoup]

So, then the reputed Jesus was actually self-aware and so was knowing fully that he was the one. This is what Ady is saying, right? Jesus knew he was the one but we don't. That is the only difference between the reputed Jesus and us, right? I don't need an answer from anyone. Wow, I don't need an answer from anyone on this. I thought I did but now I don't any more.

[Miluion2]

good

[deliciousonionsoup]

Not just you, Miluion2, but to anyone - please at least reference what you are replying to. I know there is sometimes not enough room in 500 characters to do so but in such a situation that could be done over two message replies instead of one. The reason I, and probably others, would like to have a reference made is that sometimes the reply can be to something I or they wrote many months ago. Again, I'm not getting at you but just making a general point which sadly too few people will see.

[Miluion2]

Yeah that's true. didn't realize that lol. thanks

[thomasnordwest]

@deliciousonionsoup Yes, everyone is the One. You are, Jesus is, I am, and your car is too.

[ncripzx]

@deliciousonionsoup Ok im in the state now... its like an invisible fuzziness emanating from you as you look around. Alive invisible fuzziness. It is the most subtle and basic thing in the world its unbelievable that it takes so long to calm the body enough to realise it. It is the closest thing to non-existence...its like you cannot explain how you even know its there.. IT JUST FREAKING IS. You will know when you feel it because it makes absolutely NO SENSE. Its impossible to name it.

[Cashify]

@ncripzx Yes

[ncripzx]

@Cashify Am I right in saying you can still be awake as consciousness. but still with the ego in play

[Cashify]

@ncripzx yes. The main difference is, because consciousness sees THROUGH the illusion of the sense of a me, it is no longer the slave of the sense of a me's desires and thoughts in play.

[ncripzx]

@Cashify Gotcha. Because I can be awake seeing my body inseparable from the universe but at the same time feel like there is a 'me' as the 'ego'. it is like two identities, an ultimate seer AND a person i am controlling.

[OmmmGirl]

Blessed be! Thank you for your wise and wonderful pointers.

[blissful420]

~ ♥ ~ extraordinary ~ ♥ ~

[ahmednabil]

"IT isnt about a safe place , it is about the truth ".

that is one Gym

[Miluion2]

yes indeed it is. so good

[Simon0]

Sometimes i get get a strong feeling of joy/peace from nature. But it can be so strong it is in some way painful. it is excruciatingly strong and can somehow be painful (wirth the bliss).

Does anyone else experience this? I guess it is painful because you know you cant maintain the feeling, and you go back to mundane state of mind.

[omnislade]

That's exactly it. The moment you experience it, you feel an amazing high; "Yes, this is it!" But the high can never last because it comes from mixing the truth with your own mental projections, hopes and expectations, which are all things that have a certain neediness or desperate quality behind them.

Anything you try to sustain will feel painful because it's unnatural. You want peace after all, not more searching and striving.

You can never lose reality, so don't worry about it. You're fine!

[Simon0]

that reminds me of a quote. something like "if you lose your smile, it is always somewhere nearby". In same way you cannot lose reality.

Thanks for response!

[Simon0]

a finger pointing at the moon!

[letterstomyfather]

LOL! Great timing - putting into words my understanding of these recent moments.

[vapourmile]

I really am just talking to myself now. Anyway, what a lovely person!

[vapourmile]

Of course, I don't think I'm God... I daren't blaspheme, maybe that my problem?

[j67123]

Well, I think it would be healthier to think you're God (in a sense, you are - just don't know it) than to think you're a worthless piece of shit. Thinking the latter hasn't done me any good and both self-images come from ego so why not? (Just don't tell everyone you're God or you'll likely get a visit from the men in the white suits lol).

[refuel829]

if god wasn't in you, it would make it seem like god is limited, but god is not =)

[vapourmile]

My thoughts of Buddhist scripture is that I wrote it a laid it around reality to remind me that I'm Not deluded, to protect me from getting irretrievably lost in reality, my own dream that I create.

Which means the only reason I'm still here is that I don't want it to end yet... for some reason! Because I think I've forgotten how to get out! Help me me!

That only leaves me wondering if I created me, if God created me or if I'm God, and if I am, what am I doing here anyway?

[j67123]

Since I was a kid, I've truly believed in existence being like a bad dream. Seems totally real then you wake up and think, "Thank God! It was just a stupid dream."

May all of us still stuck in our nightmares wake up, realize beyond all doubt that this

too was just a bad dream, and have a damn good laugh over it! We've earned it.

[vapourmile]

The fact there is one truth does not mean it has to be the same from one place to the next. In fact, if there was, there would always be nothing. We need difference to know we exist.

Although I do tend to think if I saw the real truth, I would see that I have created everything from my mind.

[vapourmile]

This only leaves me with two questions:

1.If this truth is one's true nature then how did we ever become separated from it?

2.If there is only one then why is he devoting so much time talking about a difference between oneness versus not-oneness?

3.Even if it is all one this still leaves open the question of cause, effect and consequences. If he had resolved those why would he be talking whilst it makes no difference to the state of oneness, he wouldn't be able to bring about change.

[j67123]

I'm not in a position to teach but I'll try to give you some answers base on what I know:

1. Human beings developed an ego as a survival mechanism - we just took it so far that we now see it as ourselves and not what it really is.

2. He's trying to speak the Truth in words so we can begin to understand. The Truth can never really be expressed in words but they're at least something we can relate to.

3. I don't quite follow this one. ?

[vapourmile]

3. It's just a thought I had: In principle the Universe is all one? If this is true then why wasn't the whole Universe enlightened when the first person was?

[j67123]

OK. Well, I don't know this one. It sure would be a lot easier if we all knew the Truth instead of having to realize it. I once heard that it was part of "The Game" to forget one's divinity but, as someone who is not enlightened, my take is that this "Game" SUCKS! lol

[vapourmile]

You just could be right! You know, right now, that reflects how I'm feeling. Actually, I'm thinking like I suck. Maybe it is all one?

My thought is everything is one, there is no other one but this one, there is no Buddha and no enlightenment to be separate from.

[j67123]

Yeah - I think your second paragraph is spot-on. Unfortunately, these are just words and without actually realizing the truth of them, life just sucks! It does for me anyway. I understand Zen intellectually quite well but that doesn't do me one bit of good. I hope you have more success than I've had. 18 years and a few moments of being at peace - hardly staggering spiritual progress.

[vapourmile]

Excuse me... are you ME? You sound like me, you feel like me and you write like me.

Maybe we are one?

[j67123]

Of course! We're all one!

Things we don't understand aside though, some people are more "one" than others. Maybe our psychological makeup and spiritual practices are similar. We could both be in the same developmental boat (the R.M.S. Titanic?)

[vapourmile]

Which do you have as my second para? If it's spot on I'd better read it again to see if I learn anything!

The only thing I have to boast about it that sometimes (even, more or less, during this posting session) my mind falls away and I forget who I am. I feel totally good, and it is as if there could never have been be a problem and there never will be, and everything I ever wanted or had was just a bad dream, or in fact, "just words and descriptions".

[j67123]

"My thought is everything is one, there is no other one but this one, there is no Buddha and no enlightenment to be separate from." <-- that paragraph.

[stoinge]

fantastic

[pseidell]

this brings me great joy....paul

[newenglandtom]

same demonic spirit that is on tolle, just with less hair, no accent, and without the sweet vest.

your true nature is sinful. the only remedy for sin is the BLOOD OF JESUS.

followers of these teachings will be awakened but to a dark light.

[jamtso78]

What do you mean by the blood of Jesus?

Don't you mean that the only remedy for sin is the light of our own awareness which is who Jesus is.

[newenglandtom]

nope. do not mean that at all. awareness does not resolve your sin problem. being aware of it does help, but the blood of the Lamb that was slain is the only hope you have to be free from sin.

if you were aware of who Jesus is... then you would be fully aware of His blood that was spilled for us.

[jamtso78]

If our true nature is sinful, what hope do we have of ever being free from sin?

How can Jesus save us from what we truly are?

[newenglandtom]

the hope we have is in the supernatural transformation that comes when we place faith in Christ and believe on God's Son Jesus Christ.

His blood, His Word, and His Spirit has that transforming power.

[loginstatus]

Hi Newengland tom,

That seems to be very short sightedness. That is not being divine like the christ

[vapourmile]

Thought for everybody in this thread: You're attacking, questioning and criticising each other. Ever wanted to quit trying to force others to believe you knoww better ways of being divine in order to support them instead?

[kikikilly]

Thats what i mean't

[jadajean05]

thanks for posting these videos

[taintstain2]

One year ago to the day your words caused me to self-realize. Thank You, Adya. You will always be my Papa.

Andrew

[JCL2170]

Amazimg. "Emptiness Dancing" one of the books that changed my life..

[haribolshanti]

what's the name(S) his guru(s)?

[calitribalbrat]

((I LOVE YOU))

[shutterdog]

thank you adya

[1DavidSun]

Damn right, Jesus was sometimes wrong, be ye perfect as the Kingdom of Heaven is perfect. Perfection is the perfecting itself. Buddha was much smarter.

[jtram21]

Jesus'instruction in this scripture (Matthew 5:48) is NOT a function of duality. He is telling us to embrace ALL of reality as the Self embraces all of reality. To Love our neighbor as thyself. If you read Matthew 5:43-48 (you were referring only to 5:48)your context will evolve.

[jtram21]

This scripture is intended for those of us who are still identified with the "I" thought and feel ourselves to be separate from the Self. By embracing all of what is -- good and bad (loving our neighbor as thyself), we are "being perfect as our heavenly Father is perfect" because the Self embraces all.

[jtram21]

"Buddha" is an image that points to the Self. "Jesus" is an image that points to the Self. There is only one Self. There is nothing to compare. The religious concepts differ but the Self remains the same.

[dustin456]

very well put... There is no other.

[telethon123]

"Perfect" is actually a mistranslation of the Greek word "whole".

[shancarballo]

I don't fully agree with not using the word "perfect" to describe the truth, I do understand that it is only the mind that sees the truth as imperfect, and Adya may want to avoid using the word because of it's dualistic connotation, but in my view what could be more perfect than the truth :)?

[davidtitterington]

right on. there is Truth, Beauty, Good, Perfection, Being. the Thruth beyond true and false. Perfect with a capital P. perfect with a lowercase only arises with imperfection. both arise in the Perfection of Is.

[shancarballo]

David thanks for your reply, I do like Adyashanti's teachings though for the most part, in fact his talks on youtube were actually a big part of my spiritual awakening. I don't like the choice of his words sometimes because I think they may be misleading especially to newer "seekers", but I try not to take the words so seriously because after all they are just "fingers pointing to the moon"

[davidtitterington]

indeed. Adyashanti is great at "pointing out" the effortless natual state, which can be misleading to beginners (who can mistaken that presence for their ego's. "Its me!" we might say. no, it's that in you which is aware of you. do you like Ken Wilber?

[tktoadE]

Do you want to hear lots more Adyashanti for free? Click the "(more)" button in the description section in the right-top hand corner of this page and you will see different links in blue. I personally enjoy the cd's that I have made from downloading these audio samples. Enjoy...

[tktoadE]

My directions weren't as good as I thought they were. The description box for THIS video is to the immediate right of the video that is playing. It has the "date added", "subscribe to", and then below that is the "(more)" button. Much love.

[pinkbug8u]

thanks tktoadE, I spoke too soon, I found it the moment I wrote down that I couldn't find it. Thanks for the uploads. Awesome

[dennisdeem]

Adyashanti is the Ram Dass of our generation. He teaches, like RD, a pure, non dualistic conceptualizatioon of getting "it." A lot of teachers, including Tolle, Wayne Dyer, Williamson, and folks of the like spend most of their writing on analyzing ego projections: manifestation, energy attraction, chakras, and things of the like. He doesn't spend time analyzing intricate patterns in the chaos of dualistic no-thingness.

[shancarballo]

Good point dennis, Tolle does spend a lot of time talking about the "pain body", I think maybe he beats it to death sometimes, but perhaps some people need to hear it

[riciard55]

Well done in creating a self again in what you are doing keep up the con if you are making some cash OH well there are always sukkers who will pay

[davidtitterington]

how is this guy conning anyone?

[riciard55]

the self or awareness cannot see it self as not being

there is no condition where the mind can see itself as not being

[mmaumm]

I have heard a lot of them--Krishnamurti and many others and this guy sounds like he has something. Anyone can say this stuff but not everyone can put it over.He may not be an avatar but he made an impression on me at least--and I must say I thought I was beyond being impressed anymore by these persons--being as I am 60 years old and having beaten this hindu-buddhist path for 40 of those years.

[vocasla]

perhaps this was what siddhartha was like when he was enlightened, eh?

[jpfreedom]

Naa this guy knows what he is talking about...

At some point humanity has go to accept that there is truth beyond thinking which has been spoken by J Krishnamurti, Eckhart Tolle, Buddha, Zen teachers and all non-dual teachings. The teacher is not that important for me it is listening and understanding the truth from whereever it comes from.

[ik022]

Exactly... and it's even better when some of these ideas are already a part of yourself, and when you hear or read them somewhere...

[vandgrus]

I still like Eckhart Tolle better. You can se that he really got it all the way through. He got inlightment first, then found out what is was, then found out that he had to become a teacher. This guy has strived for it in another way, and I don't know why, but it shows. Anyway I enjoyed the post, thanks.

[jimmyp37]

stuff like this takes minutes to hear and a lifetime to understand. My question is always how do we in our western capitalistic, money oriented, comsumer driven, time conscious, productivity obsessed, superficial, secular, dog eat dog world, TV watchin', no book readin' world incorporate this thinking?

[vandgrus]

Be aware at all times. Only do what you know is right. If it turns out to be wrong, change it. It's a long challenging road, but the rewards.... man...

[TomGarn]

... yes, of course: Tradition is always continuing through the minds of us: well trained listeners, and lecturers ... How long can we go on finding NEW words for that which is always the same ? I feel, that good satsang-talkers are always salty - coming from the same ocean - the same source (you will know that picture yourself) Listening here & now, you become simply aware that you are also part of this - and nothing else. That'Ss Satsang !

[naguelles]

i think this guy has read some krishnamurti books and now wants to make money with the bits he has understood

[fusionguitar]

He's really a spiritual con, and he is not speaking from "truth" or "insight". His points are either of no consequence whatsoever, or they are false generalizations about human experience and the mind, or they are romanticized, wordy Buddhist concepts that have no real meaning beyond their poetic beauty. Where is the "truth" in this? Please respond by explaining it with hard evidence and not merely repeating the dogma to me. I am already familiar with the dogma.

[fusionguitar]

That is good, but it still feels like he is spouting off a lot of dogma, in other words, he is stating "facts". But to me they are things being proposed as "truth" that not only sound really flaky and meaningless but are also not explained thorougly by the teacher himself. So... he's telling us stuff, without really accounting for his statements even close to adequately. And they ARE flaky statements in themselves. The issue to me is whether or not one is persuaded by Adya or people like him...

[helicalcat]

Until you experience the truth, and come to know it for yourself to be true, whatever Adya or anyone else says is merely philosophy, or theology to you.

You can either believe the philosophy to be true(without KNOWING it to be true through direct personal experience), or you can believe it not to be true.

[helicalcat]

I do think that alot of spiritual speakers spout alot of rhetoric.

My personal opinion is that too much extraneous rhetoric(no matter how beautiful) creates confusion in people new to spirituality.

They have not experienced any truths for themselves, and so therefore cannot agree with what is being taught(which may cause them to therefore disagree).

But until they experience something for themselves, on what basis can they agree or disagree with it?

[helicalcat]

The only person I know of who does provide clear, specific steps to enlightenment is Eckhart Tolle, in his book, The Power of Now. It is the only book I refer to.

Once you are firmly on the road to enlightenment, you will begin to understand(and experience for yourself) more and more of what Adya and other spiritual speakers talk about.

[fusionguitar]

What is the "eye of spirit"... except observation, which is the act of looking? Please do not complicate our thinking with your buddhist dogma. If you observe and see, then you become aware of things as they are. You can't have that awareness of facts/truth if you did not observe in the first place.

[tktoadE]

It seems to me that Adyashanti is using the term "eye of spirit" in place of the term "Awareness". Many teachers of the same ilk will use a lot of different terms for the same thing. One reason seems to be that they give many talks and try not to constantly repeat themselves. Another reason seems to be that it is challenging to talk about such a subject and agree on a universal terminology. Don't take my word-- these are just educated guesses.

[tktoadE]

My experience of Adya is that he doesn't have a dogma of any kind. In fact he has said many times that he was a failure as a Zen Buddhist. And in being so-- woke up to the "truth". He talks from experience and a deep, deep and constant questioning of everything (his beliefs, cultural beliefs, experiences, traditions, etc). I have heard him reference many teachers including Ramana Maharshi, Jesus, Nisardadatta, and Rumi and more while also encouraging all to "see for yourself"(his core teaching)

[desarka]

What I picked up on was that he said "I don't know what 'everything is perfect' means", right after saying there aren't any problems. If you adopt the belief that there aren't any problems, then you're left with perfection - or you can start with the belief that everything is perfect and the problems fall away - It's the same cat being skinned from two different angles.

If saying that everything is perfect is an interpretive layer on top of the one - then so is saying there aren't any problems.

[refuel829]

there's a difference from being perfect and it being what it is.

[chandikaliyanawaduge]

@refuel829 The problem with saying it's perfect is that there's judgement in saying it's 'perfect'....the one doesn't judge it's just aware of what is....a choice-less universal awareness or attention....

[Vierotchka]

Total truth!

[rishineti]

A 'finger pointing at the moon'

[Vierotchka]

Absolutely - but I wonder how many look at the moon the finger is pointing at, and how many actually focus entirely on the finger...

[RHarris]

total crap!

[Vierotchka]

...quoth the hyperinflated Ego!

[RHarris]

...of the one with the stone in her clutches