What to do with sociopaths ?,is there any treatment , reeducation or CBT that can gave some result ?,no, the only possible treatment to protect society is long standing confinement,or bullet in the front (in states who retain capital punishment).
@SculptedThoughts Depends on what you mean by a "conscience", but anyhow, I guess the obvious question would be... do you view others expressing cruelty as being too weak to control themselves as you have controlled it fairly well? Or is it that you find disgust in them for being gruesome in general?
@Gjkl345 1/2 I am more irritated by their weakness, and especially by those people who write love notes to serial killers in prison (thus glorifying what they have done). It's easy to kill - getting away with it may be more difficult - but when you are awed by the ones who have failed, you are scorning those who have succeeded. Glorify a murderer - cast aside someone whom came close and managed to stop.
@SculptedThoughts No, but I have watched a thrilling manga called "Monster" (don't know what you feel towards that genre) which had a quote identifying Johan Liebert, a man regarded as the "Devil"; "See how big the Monster inside me has grown?" - Johan writing it on the walls, taunting the man who saved him from a bullet to the skull. He was charismatic, but after not condoning what people said, simply listening to them, he would whisper in their ears "this can all be better, I agree with you"
@SculptedThoughts Not the literal quote, but he would ask then to kill one person, just kill one person, and all who had came in contact with Johan, died in misery and self-afflicted "Monsters" of their own. That's what I love about it, everything in the story had such great depictions of human character from their simplest to their most convoluted. In contrast, I suppose I have a grounding structure for what I envision should be the superior manipulator.
@SculptedThoughts Hmm, I always thought of lining up imprisoned criminals showing acts of heinous contempt for people was rather amusing in that it was literally a zoo. Except animals don't save their feces in a bottle of shampoo. Humans are shallow. Honestly, I could even see some thinking the opposite; that these "failures" have simply done what they couldn't and royalities paid in admiration or interest should be given.
@SculptedThoughts I had better address this before I forget to and it pops up later. I apologize for being quite terse or abrasive, lunging into comments that I hadn't fully given time to think over. Doesn't sit well with me whenever I look back at mistakes so simple to understand. It is much easier for me to leave abruptly and never truly revisit. So, thank you for actually giving me a piece of information that I truly desired to know eventhough.
@SculptedThoughts School is mindnumbing. Especially with those excuses teachers often use like; "your always going to have orders" and "this is preparing you for life because otherwise, your nothing, but a future homeless person." While this might be true for others, it's lack of freedom only wishes to regulate you into future dreams that society, the government, and the current curb of economy most desires.
Also, yes I am an Atheist, but I care not to disrespect others for believing in it.
@SculptedThoughts It's when groups maintaining their values start inacting irrational absurdities or supporting such a thing while having enough power to intercept another's individual's freedoms start grinding my gears. I was going to be a bit more specific, but was too lazy too comment another time. Conceptually though, many human beings have believed in fantastical things believing them to be guiding principles too influencial to pine at inconsistency.
@SculptedThoughts Through secular mandates, religion gains it's compartmentalism and regulation to spread toward the masses to follow. I suppose a religion of brain eating, slug worshippers aren't far off from what we know of Christianity or other big main religions in that they believe an omnipotent being that we need to serve exists. But that's just me. I like fairytales be they weird or transcendent so that might be why I have a different affliation towards it.
@SculptedThoughts We all have darkness, Your definition of it seems to have been most noticed by the "coldness" that you felt in actions. I once thought God existed. And thought I could channel his energy into a golden pin until the student assistents that period caught me, asked, recieved intel and proceeded to laugh their asses off. (Mainly because I kept asking God to smite them, wasn't the best whisperer back then.) So it could've been... more embarassing...
@SculptedThoughts Or if you've ever seen a bird get splattered into the car window with disjointed body parts and feathers still sticking to the crevices of the car cracks. Oh I know. Been watching horror/gore films ever since, not truly the same effect as watching it in reality, but as the Maynard song goes "I need to watch things die, from a distance." It's always interesting to unmask flesh and bone aswell as the psychology, logic, and concepts people have.
@SculptedThoughts Hehe, you do realize if it were not for you to witness his heroically tragic demise, no one would've known for no one would really care or be there at the sametime to know of the ant. There is such a thing as being a scribe, a recorder of these happenings that will always be filled with human perception. Events are bland, without, and possess no bias nomatter the intensity of it's circumstances. Feeling is a concoction to aid in sensing, we just broaden what's good and bad.
@SculptedThoughts Your one of the only members in the club. Beside myself.
Ahh Solitude. Well or close to perfection. I find the educational system leaves much to be desired. Ironic how criminal detention centers which are central to politics, monopolies, and private interests feel like it's far superior to a system that prioritizes erroneous orders that usually leaves children behind without giving them much quantity of independance in fear they'll revolt entirely if given freedom.
@Gjkl345 I love learning, but I hate school and have hated it for years and will continue to hate it. It's never nice returning to something like that.
Did you find the transition back to schools jarring, if your not already 18? Sorry, I like asking questions more then providing answers or an actual conversation.
@Gjkl345 By facility, I mean for criminals, not mental patients. However, my older brother and mother have both spent time in the other kind, and neither has Down Syndrome. If you want to know details about their stay, please ask specific questions and I will contact them for you.
Also, I have no problem with people who are ego-centric or even narcissistic (as long as they have just merit to warrant such. "I'm right because I am me" is obnoxious. "I trust my own mind over yours" is acceptable).
@SculptedThoughts Not that I meant to imply the facility in question only accepts Down Syndrome patients though, just as a frame of reference. Hmm, but did you recieve education while in your stay that fit the ciriculum standards of your age at that time? Well, it's not that I'm not curious, it's the fact I haven't mastered shyness.
Cognito Ergo Sum does not justify correlation equaling causation, if I got that right.
(4) II guess my point in writing this is to remind everyone here that you determine your actions, you have free will and you are responsible for yourself.
@SculptedThoughts You know, I use to think my boredom was progressive, so long as I never forget the worth of the past or past symbolisms. Now it feels... like depression more then a void of endless days. Omni-emotion and initial emotion are positive sparks. Mmm to enforce a kind of reaction, any kind. Well, to most. Perhaps that's the reason people rally behind it, believing it's force is a common good.
@SculptedThoughts My family seperated when my grandmother died. Should this be a decent into egocentricism or narcissism as passive-agressive as I am with it, it confirmed my visage of only seeing people as bags of usages because it was apparent that even the family I believed was strong, bent to money concerns. Only the individual finds a worth... which is why I don't exactly believe in nihilism... but I'm getting off topic. You sound like Carl Jung's Red Book. No offense taken hopefully.
@SculptedThoughts Sharp things are very tempting. Hmm, I see, so you spent youth in that "bad place"? That's strange, scuse my ignorance, but my only knowledge of psychiatric facilities are one's housing down-syndrome patients (because of my brother's condition.) How were you admitted?
This is one of the best songs i've ever heard in my life. i'm just full of emotions, can't get tired of it.... thank you, Ampop, for such pleasure! and thanks for video.
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What to do with sociopaths ?,is there any treatment , reeducation or CBT that can gave some result ?,no, the only possible treatment to protect society is long standing confinement,or bullet in the front (in states who retain capital punishment).
nedeljko18 2 months ago
Well then this is still here.
Gjkl345 3 months ago
this song sounds like my brother… and mom (she was a borderline though… same thing really, except for the obnoxious fake suicide attempts)
MrSpemat 4 months ago
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SculptedThoughts 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts Depends on what you mean by a "conscience", but anyhow, I guess the obvious question would be... do you view others expressing cruelty as being too weak to control themselves as you have controlled it fairly well? Or is it that you find disgust in them for being gruesome in general?
Gjkl345 1 year ago
@Gjkl345 1/2 I am more irritated by their weakness, and especially by those people who write love notes to serial killers in prison (thus glorifying what they have done). It's easy to kill - getting away with it may be more difficult - but when you are awed by the ones who have failed, you are scorning those who have succeeded. Glorify a murderer - cast aside someone whom came close and managed to stop.
SculptedThoughts 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts No, but I have watched a thrilling manga called "Monster" (don't know what you feel towards that genre) which had a quote identifying Johan Liebert, a man regarded as the "Devil"; "See how big the Monster inside me has grown?" - Johan writing it on the walls, taunting the man who saved him from a bullet to the skull. He was charismatic, but after not condoning what people said, simply listening to them, he would whisper in their ears "this can all be better, I agree with you"
Gjkl345 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts Not the literal quote, but he would ask then to kill one person, just kill one person, and all who had came in contact with Johan, died in misery and self-afflicted "Monsters" of their own. That's what I love about it, everything in the story had such great depictions of human character from their simplest to their most convoluted. In contrast, I suppose I have a grounding structure for what I envision should be the superior manipulator.
Gjkl345 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts What is more stupid is that they are glorifying the losers ones that lost not the ones that didn't get caught,
r29 10 months ago
@r29 Wrong. That is certainly stupid, but it is not "more stupid" than glorifying the failures who killed to begin with.
Don't play with me.
SculptedThoughts 10 months ago
@SculptedThoughts I guess we have a different sense of humor. Don't like to play? Being to honest and straightforward, U must be lonely.
r29 9 months ago
@r29 Your deductive reasoning is incorrect.
SculptedThoughts 9 months ago
@SculptedThoughts it must suck being u. its hard for people to accept someone who is smart, straightforward, and independent. don't u agree?
r29 9 months ago
@r29 I don't like you, nor do I care to engage further. And self-pity is not my style.
SculptedThoughts 9 months ago
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SculptedThoughts 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts Hmm, I always thought of lining up imprisoned criminals showing acts of heinous contempt for people was rather amusing in that it was literally a zoo. Except animals don't save their feces in a bottle of shampoo. Humans are shallow. Honestly, I could even see some thinking the opposite; that these "failures" have simply done what they couldn't and royalities paid in admiration or interest should be given.
Gjkl345 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts I had better address this before I forget to and it pops up later. I apologize for being quite terse or abrasive, lunging into comments that I hadn't fully given time to think over. Doesn't sit well with me whenever I look back at mistakes so simple to understand. It is much easier for me to leave abruptly and never truly revisit. So, thank you for actually giving me a piece of information that I truly desired to know eventhough.
Gjkl345 1 year ago
@Gjkl345 "[D]ear nothingness..." - are you an Atheist?
And it's fine. I find conversation is more effective when inquiries are precise.
SculptedThoughts 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts School is mindnumbing. Especially with those excuses teachers often use like; "your always going to have orders" and "this is preparing you for life because otherwise, your nothing, but a future homeless person." While this might be true for others, it's lack of freedom only wishes to regulate you into future dreams that society, the government, and the current curb of economy most desires.
Also, yes I am an Atheist, but I care not to disrespect others for believing in it.
Gjkl345 1 year ago
@Gjkl345 That's where we diverge largely. I do disrespect the institute of religion.
SculptedThoughts 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts It's when groups maintaining their values start inacting irrational absurdities or supporting such a thing while having enough power to intercept another's individual's freedoms start grinding my gears. I was going to be a bit more specific, but was too lazy too comment another time. Conceptually though, many human beings have believed in fantastical things believing them to be guiding principles too influencial to pine at inconsistency.
Gjkl345 1 year ago
@Gjkl345 Religion does all of these things.
SculptedThoughts 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts Through secular mandates, religion gains it's compartmentalism and regulation to spread toward the masses to follow. I suppose a religion of brain eating, slug worshippers aren't far off from what we know of Christianity or other big main religions in that they believe an omnipotent being that we need to serve exists. But that's just me. I like fairytales be they weird or transcendent so that might be why I have a different affliation towards it.
Gjkl345 1 year ago
@Gjkl345 my mistake, it is not always secular.
Gjkl345 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts I am intrigued, what was your personal experience with religion?
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@SculptedThoughts We all have darkness, Your definition of it seems to have been most noticed by the "coldness" that you felt in actions. I once thought God existed. And thought I could channel his energy into a golden pin until the student assistents that period caught me, asked, recieved intel and proceeded to laugh their asses off. (Mainly because I kept asking God to smite them, wasn't the best whisperer back then.) So it could've been... more embarassing...
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@SculptedThoughts Or if you've ever seen a bird get splattered into the car window with disjointed body parts and feathers still sticking to the crevices of the car cracks. Oh I know. Been watching horror/gore films ever since, not truly the same effect as watching it in reality, but as the Maynard song goes "I need to watch things die, from a distance." It's always interesting to unmask flesh and bone aswell as the psychology, logic, and concepts people have.
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@SculptedThoughts Hehe, you do realize if it were not for you to witness his heroically tragic demise, no one would've known for no one would really care or be there at the sametime to know of the ant. There is such a thing as being a scribe, a recorder of these happenings that will always be filled with human perception. Events are bland, without, and possess no bias nomatter the intensity of it's circumstances. Feeling is a concoction to aid in sensing, we just broaden what's good and bad.
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@SculptedThoughts Your one of the only members in the club. Beside myself.
Ahh Solitude. Well or close to perfection. I find the educational system leaves much to be desired. Ironic how criminal detention centers which are central to politics, monopolies, and private interests feel like it's far superior to a system that prioritizes erroneous orders that usually leaves children behind without giving them much quantity of independance in fear they'll revolt entirely if given freedom.
Gjkl345 1 year ago
@Gjkl345 besides* dear nothingness, I feel like this is becoming a reoccuring pun...
Gjkl345 1 year ago
@Gjkl345 I love learning, but I hate school and have hated it for years and will continue to hate it. It's never nice returning to something like that.
SculptedThoughts 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts Sorry, off tangeant.
Did you find the transition back to schools jarring, if your not already 18? Sorry, I like asking questions more then providing answers or an actual conversation.
Gjkl345 1 year ago
@Gjkl345 By facility, I mean for criminals, not mental patients. However, my older brother and mother have both spent time in the other kind, and neither has Down Syndrome. If you want to know details about their stay, please ask specific questions and I will contact them for you.
Also, I have no problem with people who are ego-centric or even narcissistic (as long as they have just merit to warrant such. "I'm right because I am me" is obnoxious. "I trust my own mind over yours" is acceptable).
SculptedThoughts 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts Not that I meant to imply the facility in question only accepts Down Syndrome patients though, just as a frame of reference. Hmm, but did you recieve education while in your stay that fit the ciriculum standards of your age at that time? Well, it's not that I'm not curious, it's the fact I haven't mastered shyness.
Cognito Ergo Sum does not justify correlation equaling causation, if I got that right.
Gjkl345 1 year ago
@Gjkl345 a frame of reference" I mean
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SculptedThoughts 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts Oh and btw, no need to say sorry, I usually use that catchphrase anyways...
Gjkl345 1 year ago
(4) II guess my point in writing this is to remind everyone here that you determine your actions, you have free will and you are responsible for yourself.
SculptedThoughts 1 year ago
@SculptedThoughts Self-depiction. But tell me, have you taken psychological tests? As a formality.
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@SculptedThoughts You know, I use to think my boredom was progressive, so long as I never forget the worth of the past or past symbolisms. Now it feels... like depression more then a void of endless days. Omni-emotion and initial emotion are positive sparks. Mmm to enforce a kind of reaction, any kind. Well, to most. Perhaps that's the reason people rally behind it, believing it's force is a common good.
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@SculptedThoughts My family seperated when my grandmother died. Should this be a decent into egocentricism or narcissism as passive-agressive as I am with it, it confirmed my visage of only seeing people as bags of usages because it was apparent that even the family I believed was strong, bent to money concerns. Only the individual finds a worth... which is why I don't exactly believe in nihilism... but I'm getting off topic. You sound like Carl Jung's Red Book. No offense taken hopefully.
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@SculptedThoughts Sharp things are very tempting. Hmm, I see, so you spent youth in that "bad place"? That's strange, scuse my ignorance, but my only knowledge of psychiatric facilities are one's housing down-syndrome patients (because of my brother's condition.) How were you admitted?
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SculptedThoughts 1 year ago
This song is fucking awesome.
fixehfixeh 2 years ago 2
Okay this is getting ridiculous. I can't find this song anywhere. How do I download it?
ElevatorMishaps 3 years ago
I dont know anything about myspace, but you can downoad it to your computer using Freecorder. Easy download and it works real well.... hope it helps
sotylover 2 years ago
muy buena cancion XD
SALUDOS DE MEXICO
portishead333 3 years ago 2
Can someone please upload this song to Myspace if you have the CD or Download and post your link here?
PsychiatricFatility 3 years ago 6
I'd like to add this song to my myspace account but it seems I am having trouble finding it on that site... Can anyone provide assistance?
ElevatorMishaps 3 years ago 2
This is one of the best songs i've ever heard in my life. i'm just full of emotions, can't get tired of it.... thank you, Ampop, for such pleasure! and thanks for video.
Brikoleri 3 years ago 4
This is an brilliant song, im glad to see the video lives up to it. Fantastic!!
EarthlyDerision 3 years ago 4
I love how the first chorus is sung. It's like he wants to feel remorse for what he does, but is simply trapped in an existence devoid of morality.
"I can't help it. I am bad."
dk2k1 3 years ago 9
You have no idea.
ElevatorMishaps 3 years ago 4
@dk2k1 He could also be using his condition as an excuse for his immoral attitude and behaviour.
1933rk 9 months ago 7
@1933rk he is.
xTommyGirlx 6 months ago
amazing,
incredibly amazing
ambientalpop 4 years ago 5
Wow...inventive and highly disturbing at the same time.
roguejedi19 4 years ago 5