Don't forget that lapping the processor with have very little benefit UNLESS you also lap the heatsink. There is no point lapping the processor if you are just going to slap onto an uneven heatsink.
The purpose of heatsink compound is to create a thermal link between the two uneven surfaces so in theory, if both surface are perfectlt flat, you do not need heatsink compound.
@ImmortalUniverse There was a known manufacturing defect with the Q6600's which caused the heat spreader to be concave. A concave heat spreader does not make full contact with a heatsink. Intel did not do anything about it because it was "good enough" and the chip still operated within allowed temperatures. It would have also cost them a fortune to rectify the situation. Perhaps you should "think about it". If they came lapped from the factory the price would increase.
when im lapping, do i need to remove the thermal paste before the lapping or it dosnt matter cause the lapping will remove it anyway? and how can u tell when u move to the next grit?
You allways test it befor lapping. the warranty goes out the window when you start lapping. and when intel is mass producing it they can't check everysingle cpu. and what did you mean by "if there is 1 thing i know best ,it is that water and chips dont get along very well."
You are right. BUT if u are like me (& probably them) and like to overclock your cpu u will notice a (3-5degree) diffrence. so that's why we do it. I got my Q6600 to 4.0GHz, and it's stable. With my NT9700 I get about 55degree celsius when it's on 100% load. ohh and "endurance and quality" is right. BUT when they mass produce thies thing they get sloppy. wich result in them not being 100% flat and that will result in a not 100% cooler contact. So thats why we do it.
@ImmortalUniverse iv had it for two years now... and it's still going strong. I do need a new one soon... will buy (and lap) a 980x after the summer... and I bet my q6600 will still be working then..
@ImmortalUniverse it doesnt matter cause even if you say "lapping doesnt do anything" it still does... and yea it's a free world i didnt tell you that you can't say something now did i? and sorry but there is some ppl that don't have a infinite amount of money so they can buy a new cpu everytime there is a new better one coming out.
Nice tutorial! Why would you prefer wet than dry sanding?* I dry sanded my amd x2 btw* but looking for a new way to lap my e4300. Also how do you know when you've lapped enough and when to stop for each rotation? Thanks!!
You do realize you can completely submerge most electronics in water (removing the power source first) and as long as you give them time to dry completely they will fire right back up.
I read from another review you shouldn't use the wet sanding method for the actual proccesor but for heatsink only. Whats the major differances between wet sanding and dry?
It's a matter a preference really, do what you're comfortable with. It's a cleaner alternative to dealing with fine dust that can get everywhere. In my experience you can obtain a closer, smooth, surface with wet sanding in a sorter amount of time. Dry sanding can cause deep scares on the surface if you not careful, which would defeat the whole purpose of lapping. There are some good reads on the topic on tomshardware or extremeoverclocking forums. Good Luck
Don't forget that lapping the processor with have very little benefit UNLESS you also lap the heatsink. There is no point lapping the processor if you are just going to slap onto an uneven heatsink.
The purpose of heatsink compound is to create a thermal link between the two uneven surfaces so in theory, if both surface are perfectlt flat, you do not need heatsink compound.
Guardian2003 1 year ago
people dont listen to this stupid retard in the video.
you only damage your cpu .
think about it
intel and amd are always trying to make the best cpu .
if intel thought lapping the damn cpu would help ,they would have done it already
dont you think so
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
@ImmortalUniverse There was a known manufacturing defect with the Q6600's which caused the heat spreader to be concave. A concave heat spreader does not make full contact with a heatsink. Intel did not do anything about it because it was "good enough" and the chip still operated within allowed temperatures. It would have also cost them a fortune to rectify the situation. Perhaps you should "think about it". If they came lapped from the factory the price would increase.
TeamLQD 1 year ago 3
@TeamLQD fair enough
good point .
still
not very smart from intel
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
@TeamLQD LoL at that guy.
Davemercd 1 year ago
when im lapping, do i need to remove the thermal paste before the lapping or it dosnt matter cause the lapping will remove it anyway? and how can u tell when u move to the next grit?
saphisto 1 year ago
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saphisto 1 year ago
I dont want to sound like a ass .
but imagine someone buying a core i7 of 800 bucks .
lol
and he finds out the chip is busted after lapping it .
autch
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
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You allways test it befor lapping. the warranty goes out the window when you start lapping. and when intel is mass producing it they can't check everysingle cpu. and what did you mean by "if there is 1 thing i know best ,it is that water and chips dont get along very well."
DahKeyLogger 1 year ago
@ImmortalUniverse
u sound like an ass!! lmao
fletchy88 1 year ago
useless amount of work and risky .
the cpu was build on endurance and quality.
playing with sandpaper will not give your cpu better performance.
atleast thats my opinion.
ImmortalUniverse 2 years ago
You are right. BUT if u are like me (& probably them) and like to overclock your cpu u will notice a (3-5degree) diffrence. so that's why we do it. I got my Q6600 to 4.0GHz, and it's stable. With my NT9700 I get about 55degree celsius when it's on 100% load. ohh and "endurance and quality" is right. BUT when they mass produce thies thing they get sloppy. wich result in them not being 100% flat and that will result in a not 100% cooler contact. So thats why we do it.
DahKeyLogger 1 year ago
im kinda curious about the performances of the new corsair hydro h50 water cooling.
that will get nice overclocking results aswell ill bet
and you dont have to mess with the quality of the cpu .
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
i mean nicer temps ,so you can overclock higher .
especially when you add a second fan to the radiator.
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
The quality of the cpu will increase when you lap it. Copper > Aluminum @ heat distribution. and from what i heard it should be pretty darn good.
DahKeyLogger 1 year ago
If that was so true .
then i wonder why Intel doesnt think of that.
and why they dont lap it for me.
and im a electricien.
if there is 1 thing i know best ,it is that water and chips dont get along very well.
think of oxidation inside.
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
@DahKeyLogger dream on , dream on , dream on .
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
@ImmortalUniverse you are the one that should wake up and smell the roses.
DahKeyLogger 1 year ago
@DahKeyLogger
right
go ahead then ....
ill bet you dont comment to me when you have busted it .
lol
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
@ImmortalUniverse iv had it for two years now... and it's still going strong. I do need a new one soon... will buy (and lap) a 980x after the summer... and I bet my q6600 will still be working then..
DahKeyLogger 1 year ago
@DahKeyLogger
i still think its useless..
but whatever works for you.
im not gonna mess with mine .
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
@ImmortalUniverse No one has told you to... and what you think doesnt matter... if you lap you will see better results and that is a fact.
DahKeyLogger 1 year ago
@DahKeyLogger
if what i think doesnt matter then why would your comment matter
its a free world ,i can speak my thoughts about this method
and if you wait for a newer and faster cpu you will eventually see results too, and you keep your warranty
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
@ImmortalUniverse it doesnt matter cause even if you say "lapping doesnt do anything" it still does... and yea it's a free world i didnt tell you that you can't say something now did i? and sorry but there is some ppl that don't have a infinite amount of money so they can buy a new cpu everytime there is a new better one coming out.
DahKeyLogger 1 year ago
@DahKeyLogger
well your the one that talked about buying a new processor ,so i figured why bother lapping it .
im not gonna buy a new one yet .
im prety pleased right now .
patience saves me money
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
Nice tutorial! Why would you prefer wet than dry sanding?* I dry sanded my amd x2 btw* but looking for a new way to lap my e4300. Also how do you know when you've lapped enough and when to stop for each rotation? Thanks!!
surefirefan 2 years ago
HAHA...You lost the CPU for sure,.....
sanding with water and without the back protect black cap....you crazy man!
put it to work for us to see!!
Raphinha181290 2 years ago
Nope. It works just great.
You do realize you can completely submerge most electronics in water (removing the power source first) and as long as you give them time to dry completely they will fire right back up.
TeamLQD 2 years ago 3
Yeah Yeah...but also has the problem of oxidation, occur faster than another one that naver passed through water....
Raphinha181290 2 years ago
just get some oil on the sand paper, wont need to worry about oxidation
simracr94 2 years ago
true dat
done that many times with many core components
TheBlitz1 2 years ago
Cu and H2o it will create ox not cool
pajo50 3 years ago
Nice, I had similar results with wet-sanding my q6600.
LucrativeFuture 3 years ago
so was it good?
LimeSlimez 2 years ago
Yep, dropped a few *C on all cores. I have a video on it with results.
LucrativeFuture 2 years ago
thnx dude !
LimeSlimez 2 years ago
ohh and grow a short beard ull look better :P
CRAKIZGOOD 3 years ago
I read from another review you shouldn't use the wet sanding method for the actual proccesor but for heatsink only. Whats the major differances between wet sanding and dry?
Quinny2kEva 3 years ago
It's a matter a preference really, do what you're comfortable with. It's a cleaner alternative to dealing with fine dust that can get everywhere. In my experience you can obtain a closer, smooth, surface with wet sanding in a sorter amount of time. Dry sanding can cause deep scares on the surface if you not careful, which would defeat the whole purpose of lapping. There are some good reads on the topic on tomshardware or extremeoverclocking forums. Good Luck
TeamLQD 3 years ago
i heard lapping a intel cpu + water isnt good cuz water might get under the IHS
and have u ever removied the IHS for better cooling
CRAKIZGOOD 3 years ago
lapping with water is NEVER a wise idea...if you don't over do the water and have the case backing to prevent water getting in your ok.
To be safe I would wait a day or two before plugging it in to ensure any moisture is gone.
Twisted86 3 years ago
then what should i lap it with? just sand paper?
LimeSlimez 2 years ago