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  • Just because I guy doesn't drive a truck and walk around like a gorilla doesn't mean he's a coward... As a Christian woman I don't want to marry a coward, but I don't want to marry a hillbilly either...

  • I hate spoiled Christians who grow up with so much influence and so much male support. Not seeing that some were raised completely by women and never had male influence and don't fit that stereo type of the average guy.

  • does anyone else think these people are OUR religious extremists? 

  • Guys know who the dudes are? Do the dudes know who the guys are? Or better yet, do the dudes and guys know which guys were dudes until they got "unduded"? How about the dudes who are little "guy-like", or the guys who are a little "dude-like?" How about we just tickle every male we run into, to see who giggles? Does anyone else see the idiocy of this guy (or dude, or whatever)?

  • Mark Driscoll is not a dude.

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  • And nowadays women are easily being targeted by letting Satan and his demons enter in because Satan has a easier way to use a women to trick men into sin and eventually destroying the man. While the women eventually becomes destroyed by Satan too. Very sad.

  • And as for the women's part: from the outside many of them come off sweet, innocent and pretty looking. But in actually MOST not all of them come off as liars and deceivers by heart on the inside. And there is a accepted gender discrimination in our generation and culture, where it is now socially okay to label a man more evil than a woman but the truth is women and men are equally as evil. Because the evilness is control by Satan and his demons.

  • How about a video titled: "How to not marry a Slut" This guy seems to focus on unrighteous men a lot, but what about the women? So all women are virtuous and godly. Hell no! They're probably worst than men esp. nowadays and why because women can get away with more evil things esp. in this day and age when the women's rights movement has given them an advantage. 

  • Ok this is pretty hilarious...hahaha...and ridiculous Truth in it as well.

  • (...) When christianity dares say that Jesus was/is a feminist ,it's the worst of all . I read many many comments on videos denouncing feminism and realized how much pagan men were sick of that ideology . Imagine if these men are told that Jesus is all for feminism ? They will flee from their Saviour , ignoring that Jesus on earth did like his father (OT) : he empowerd men so that they became leaders and masters and be restored in their original glory ,able to teach with authority and no fear.

  • (...) and was under the female yoke (mother/wife) .He said something that really rang a bell for me as a Christian ,that men today prefer compromise rather than authority and feminize themselves . He explained the consequences of this : children as kings and tyrants, juvenile deliquency ,homosexuality ,all kinds of psychological disorders and so more..

    Even non christians confirm that the Bible is right .

  • It's nice that Mark's wife chose to edify rather than appeal to the funny bone.

  • Read the book Abuse of Scripture. I will continue in my faith.

  • lol..I enjoyed this made me laugh and think

  • so guys can't have any feminine qualities?

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  • This does nothing for those guys out their, me included, who have never met or had a father and struggle their way into manhood.

  • @samuel45 Focus on God and your relationship with him. Your relationship with Jesus will grow you into adulthood and etc.

  • @samuel45 100% agreed, you have to teach your self everything on adulthood and about being a man, and you have no one to look to for help.

  • oh my gosh. they way he looks at her.. <3

  • But a woman shouldn't be a coward either.

  • Role Modle to look up to and maybe join a gym so that he can feel more manly. This video totally turned me off and I will never watch another Mark Brisco video ever again. I'm sure that Mark's life is not as perfect as he tries to make it out to be and his wife needs to realize that he is not following the will of God. What about the story of Moses when God chose someone that had no leadership qualities to lead the Israelites out of Egypt??? If you agree with me please give me a thumbs up.

  • @thesilencer2551 I would definitely be one of those "stray cats" sadly lol and this vid really made me feel kinda bad :( but when you mentioned Moses I was like "AHA!!!" so thank you for saying that and thank the lord for inspiring you to say it :)

  • I hope that none of your kids ever get bullied in school because you would be a horrible person to rely on to deal with that situation. You should take your own advice from the other video about submission and rely on your wives wisdom if that ever becomes an issue in your household. We all fall short in some aspect of our life. You should have recommended that if the guy that she is marrying is a good Christian man that follows the teachings of Jesus then maybe he should find a good strong...

  • Hey Mark I would like to see how you would handle yourself if someone pulled a gun on you and your wife on a late evening in the city. Your answer to that question shows me that you won't deal that situation very well. Mark Drisco YOU are a coward hiding behind the bible for protection. Mark, how you grow up and start giving good advice for a change instead of putting people down (Stray Cats...).

  • I would attack and lose to the glory of God.

  • this man is a coward and a liar.

  • @rarrcamrun Misinterpreting the Bible makes him neither. He missed the point about what God wants out of a man, and seems to put more faith in the opinion of men than he should, but he's not a liar. misinterpretation != lie

  • crude sexist setereotypes.

    the fact is this man worships women.

    I know this as i have done it also.

    it is no less idolatrous

  • Is turning the other cheek considered cowardly? I think not. If I have a daughter and she asks me how to not marry a coward, I'm gonna show her Mark Driscoll videos and say: "Avoid any men like this. They are all pussies." A true man doesn't have to act macho to be manly. A true man loves God and doesn't boast. A true man loves his wife and treats her as equal. A true man puts love first.

  • is it just me, or is he fingering her under the table?????

  • GUYS DONT FEEL BAD OR LET THESE SO CALLED PASTORS PUT YOU DOWN OR MAKE YOU FEEL SMALL ITS NOT EASY BEING A MAN IN TODAYS MODERN WORLD GOD BLESS YOU!!!

  • @thelasthourgetready Well said. I've been saying the same thing for ages--it's not easy being a man in todays world. Well said! Pastors like Mark do more damage to marriages than good.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 I cant believe the way these guys bash males all the time!! its a joke its a theme that runs through many churches and then the women complain that there are no men in church or why men do not want to get married!! im sure it because the women will give more money. I talk to women in church that like this kind of teaching and I tell you they are a COMPLETE turn off all this preaching does is breed Jezebels why dont they ever teach what Paul said about submission??

  • @thelasthourgetready Most pastors know that if they ever taught wives to submit and obey their husbands it would offend people. There is a pastor called Doug Batchelor who had the courage to preach what Paul said about submission, but afterwards the church put in a complaint against him. You can watch it on youtube. The problem is that the church has twisted the gospel to compromise with sin. Feminism has even crept into the church and pastors are too scared to make a stand for the truth.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 The bible alos teaches husbands to submit to their wives. It's not about absolute control. The submission is out of mutual respect and love for each other..

  • @vhvjhb I agree, but the Bible does say that the man is the head of woman. It also tells wives to obey their husbands.

  • @vhvjhb

    The Bible teaches that husbands have to submit to their wives ??? That's how the Bible is twisted nowadays.' Mutual submission' is a lie . Husbands are taught to love their wives as Christ loves the church but NEVER to obey them ! Does Christ submit to his church ? Does he obey his church ?

    That's how Satan destroys male authority EVERYWHERE because he fears it and doesn't want to face men directly. In Eden ,he adressed the woman ,not the man .

  • They are told to give up all including their lives for their wife as Christ did for the church. Submitting is not obeying an order it is the willful giving of oneself to another in love. The leadership Jesus taught is servant leadership, and both marriage partners are to equally aspire to serve the other as Christ does to the Church. It's not about power and control or authority. Those are worldly sins we are to overcome in our marriage partnership.

  • Wives are never told in the bible to obey their husbands, what bible are you reading. Submitting is not the same as obeying.  It's about self-giving love. It's what husbands are also equally told to do for their wives. The submission is mutual. Women cannot obey two masters and my master is God, not man. Jesus was a feminist, he loved women and taught self-giving service and love not power and control and obeying is about power and control.

  • @cherylwoodcock1

    Wives are told to OBEY their husbands in everything because the husband is the head of HIS household. Jesus a feminist ?! Here we go again ! What a lie Satan succeeded in putting in the church.

    Abraham's wife ,Sarah is honoured because she obeyed her husband and called him her master (1 Peter 3).

    You lie .Your master is MAN ,not God cause Christ is man's head and man is the woman's head (1 Corinthians 11).

    Because Eve disobeyed her husband , she ate the fruit .

  • May God have mercy on your soul. You do not read or understand your bible. God told Abraham to OBEY Sarah. Both Adam and Eve equally disobeyed God not her husband. I'll pray for you. The head is the source of life, not the CEO of a company or a Hitler to be obeyed. You do not follow the true teaching of love.

  • No where does the bible say that the man is the head of a household. He is the head of his wife or the source of her just as God is his source. Sarah obeyed by her own will, she was not ordered to obey as her husband was. My master is GOD.

  • @cherylwoodcock1

    The bIble doesn't say that the man is the head of the household ??

    Both the OT and the NT empower male leadership and authority .Numbers 30 is a good illustration of the powerful authority God himself gave to men ,fathers and husbands.

    In the NT we read 'I permit not women to USURP authority over MEN ".

    If the man is the head of his wife ,he is the head of his children , as a result ,of the household ! Men is the head ,as Christ ,as God . Women are nobody's heads.

  • @framboise595 Just to let you know, cherylwoodcock1 in another video called this pastor a sexist asshole, all because he preached what the apostle Paul preached about wives being submissive. A true Christian would never use such disgusting language towards another believer. It looks like cherylwoodcock1 is another wolves in sheep's clothing and a bitter feminist pretending to be a follower of God.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 You're so right.It really appals me to see how Satan uses women inside the church today. I understand better why Titus says that if women are rebel ,the word of God is maligned among the unbelievers. Because even those who don't God yet are perfectly aware that men as fathers and husbands are an authority . In France there is a man who made a book to denounce that the father was treated as a "second mother " (I quote him) because he had lost all his power (...)

  • @framboise595 Well said. If women would just humble themselves and allow men to take the role, the good men will love and honor their wife. It's always been a man's desire to find a good woman who will stand by him. As a result he will love and cherish her. But when we live in a society that wants to make women superior and take away men's rights and give more and more jobs to women, men no longer know what to do. A husband has to be willing to die for his wife and a wife is to submit. Simple!

  • @cherylwoodcock1

    "My master is GOD. "

    If your master was God , you would submit to your husband in everything.( Submitting meaning obeying to an authority) because you would do what God tells you to do as a woman but you do your own will ,showing God is not your master.

    If women don't submit ,the Word of God is MALIGNED among the pagans.

    Good job Satan.

  • @cherylwoodcock1 Actually the Bible does tell wives to obey their husbands. If you want me to quote you the verse I will do? And to say Jesus was a feminist is blasphemy. Jesus loved both men and women, but God has an order for the family. Men are the head of the family and women are to submit. As a result the husband has to love and honor his wife. It's that simple. Don't take it from me, take it from the word of God.

  • @cherylwoodcock1

    You'll pray for me ? Wonderful ! Eve did disobey her husband ,otherwise she wouldn't have taken the fruit. SATAN made her usurp Adam's authority over her. Eve knew the fruit was forbidden because her husband had told her so. After the fall ,God adressed ADAM first . Satan did the opposite : he adressed Eve first to reverse authority.

    I understand more and more why christianity is so weak nowadays .

  • Not sure I'll ever meet you in heaven. Again I will pray for you and continue in my faith.

  • @cherylwoodcock1 It would be helpful if you could provide us with scripture to back up your claims. Just saying "I will pray for you" doesn't help your case. The final authority rests in the word of God. If you are so confident you are right then quote the word of God to back up your claims. It's so simple.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 Absolutely and its fuckin sad and a shame. In fact more like scary. Because this is an example of Satan getting into the scriptures and the pastors and twisting the truth. Anyhow thank you for bringing this up I will look up the video here. Peace.

  • @RussX5Z All you can do is stick to your guns. I myself often feel like it's a sin to be a man these days. There is an aggressive movement of feminism, as well as the media, TV drama's, and chat shows that try to belittle men. Men today are portrayed as the stupid, useless, lying cheats, whereas women are the beautiful, smart, intelligent, innocent victims.

    I know it stinks, but justice will be done. Just remember, everyone is going to have to answer to God.

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  • Driscoll is another "pastor" who thinks pastor's wives are immune to 1 Tim 2:11-12. Dudes submit to the Word of God -- duds don't.

  • 700 clubs next host

  • there so fake its unbelievable

  • this dude is a weird dude.

  • No Grace, that's not the way to test a man to see whether he's not a coward cause God says man's heart is deceitful and desperately wicked. The correct way to do it is to pray and plead with God to give you the husband He wants you to marry. Trust Him for a husband because He knows the heart; you don't!

  • @lessingtom I can kind of see your point but I also think that God gives people family and intuition, yes the heartd is decietfully wicked but guys do know guys.

  • @lessingtom The bible also teaches that your faith is made complete by what you do. So you can pray all day, but what actions are you taking. So I think her response by testing, watching his character is very biblical. Shows faith and trust in God to weed out the wrong guys to be able to know God's match for you.

  • @GREEN18221

    Watching and testing the character of the guy is not so biblical after all. How can you know the heart of someone else when you don't even know your own? (Jer 17:9) In the very next verse 10 God says: "I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings. The moral of the story? Trust God to give you Mr. right.

  • I disagree with Driscoll's main point here. Real, Godly, strong men are very hard to find in American society, and when guys are in accord over another guy's manhood, it's often just based on things like their social skills, if they're into sports, if they dress a certain way, etc. These things are not signs of manhood.

  • This is awesome because at the same time there is some truth to that. All of us know who is a broman and who is a flaming homosexual who thinks he is a woman.

  • Mark's weaknesses are apparent in approach to this question. He believes that a pickup truck is a pre-req to masculinity and Christ-likeness? What a joke, but based upon Driscoll's constant hammering home of quasi-masculinity, it doesn't really surprise me. Scares me that so many people can't see past Driscoll's almost complete lack of humility in his approach to teaching and advice-giving. Confidence is one thing, but Driscoll thwarts the truth in asserting that pickup trucks equal masculinity.

  • idc anymore, fine, i'll let the man lead the home. just let me eat my spinach, potato, tilapia, and corn with butter. Bursh my teeth and go to bed. G.o.o.d n.i.g.h.t

  • Why do women always have to be number 2? Its just not fair.

  • @Miikoong904

    Don't see it as number 2, but 2 sides of the same coin.

  • I have no problem letting the man be the leader, as long as they are not abusing, manipulating, oppressing, using, etc.

  • Whats that song?

  • How to find a great pastor:

    find one who is the opposite of Driscoll.

  • Ha,..funny guy pfft. twats

  • These people are really sickening. I have an erection and I want to vomit.

  • bunch of christian self righteous retards.i left the churrch because of people like you.

  • @abuzik14 im sorry that your experinces have led you that way, just curious to know, what do you think about Jesus?

  • @ixobileixobile i still love Jesus of course

  • @abuzik14 how can you love Jesus if you dont love his church? :P

  • @ixobileixobile i do not think all churches represent jesus.

  • I actually agree with the first point.

  • "testing proccess".

    HAHAHAHAHA I give you a hint, if the guy is religious he IS a coward, because he pretends to be good to get an "afterlife reward". Grow up wussies :P

  • Mark's wife looks like a Stepford whore.

  • I think he's lost one of his horns!

  • don't you think that maybe he's shaping the gender stereotypes a bit too much? i agree with some of the things he is saying especially with reference to men being able to differentiate between a guy's guy, etc... but he definitely seems to be shaping and sticking to the gender theories. not cool..

  • Coward?

  • wat is a coward wat ever

  • Personally I think women judge a lot of guys as wussies when in reality they are just humble, polite, Christian men who posess great strength of character and integrity.

    There are guys that I know who have been through absolute hell on earth and work diligently to maintain a gentle, humble spirit because of the repentance in their heart for the things they've done to others in acts of great violence in defence of family, freinds, or country.

    These men are constantly rejected by women...

  • @smilingscottsman

    How does a U.S. Marine get called a "nice guy" anyway?

  • @smilingscottsman I'm thinking those types of women are the ones that end up with the 'bad dudes'

  • @smilingscottsman I have to say (Mark?), you've missed to point on this one. You gave your opinion instead of looking at what God says. I know an Airman that stands an a shining example of what the Scottsman was saying.

  • @smilingscottsman That's because most women today are careless whores.

  • The beginning music is so loud, my goodness. lol I love this sermon. It makes me smile every time.

  • I love how a guy who spends his life desperately clinging to a fairy tale is talking about cowardice.

  • @haydenchan74 Glad you're listening to him talk about said "Fairy Tale"

  • LOVE THIS ANSWER (the funny one and the real one) Mark and Grace!!!!

    Ted

  • So the place of Christianity is to define manhood? Well excuse me for saying so but I'm manly or more like humanly enough to say your definition insults me.

  • look at the way he looks at her...

  • this guy is a doochebag

  • Driscoll is a coward.

  • How not to marry a coward...

    If he shows himself to be a coward, then don't marry him or her...

    nuff said'.

  • Define "Coward".

    If the word means "Someone who doesn't start shit just to prove he is not a Coward" you may be on the right track.

    "Coward" may be an overused word.

    I don't cause anyone trouble if I can avoid it.

    But ---> I will kick a dude to death in the shortest time possible if the situation calls for it and then piss on the corpse.

  • look in the mirror macho man

  • If he isn't leading before marriage you don't want to have to take care of him all your life. A woman may think, oh yeah I don't care. You will care one day, cause we want to be lead, taken care of, and to feel safe. Even a strong woman wants to feel protected and lead by her man.

  • @SabrinaMarkL It sounds like as soon as a woman marries a fundie christian man,all her opinions,intellect and personality go out the window.Women are turned into babies as soon as the "I Dos" Protected from what?If physical harm,women can learn to defend themselves.Life now demands a strong adult woman.

  • @cubicaljane

    This life, from the earliest recorded history of mankind until now, has always demanded Strong Adult Women.

    Too many Women will settle for allowing Society, their Husbands, their Twats and CIrcumstances choose for them.

    Sad.

    I was lucky enough to know some Strong Adult Women in my life.

    A rich experience.

    It isn't just the "Fundies", it's every Woman who ever gave up significant portions of her own best destiny to follow some dude.

    Bikers Chicks are included.

    Are you?

  • for those in disagreement with this message, i think he is joking half the time...

  • you guys are soooo cute together!

  • I just don't see the humility or love in this guy, his sense of wonder, amazement, or thankfulness for a God who created the universe and sent his only Son as atonement for our sins.

  • A man needs to live for God, not for the "dudes at the church"...

    Guess what, no matter what church you go to there will be "dudes" or "men's men" who are very masculine, look you in the eye, talk loud, don't have a sensitive side, never show weakness.... these are all society's and the culture's subscriptions for manhood. A lot of these guys do not have a true heart for Jesus... they go to church to be a part of community, but you look at their lives and they are not bearing fruit for God.

  • @nnnbbbmmm79

    spoken by a true coward.

  • @nnnbbbmmm79 He isn't saying that to be a real man you have to do what the wold calls manly. The point isn't to have a guy with a deep voice or never shows sensitivity. It's that this man is enough of a man to lead his family, to step out in faith and follow God, and to be bold for Christ and for his bride. They never say that they have to be what the world thinks of "men." They don't need the strength to lift things. They need the strength to follow God.

  • @nnnbbbmmm79 what do you mean "bear fruit?" Physical or spiritual?

  • @nnnbbbmmm79 Well where are we taught by Christ to show our weakness when even if our most sincere and pleading cries towards the Father are to be done in secret. In fact the qualities you mentioned are not even displayed in secular culture seeing how even the cliche of manhood is decreasing due to more perversion and irresponsibility. Where are we taught to walk around with our emotions on our sleeves? Where are we taught to be walking around saying ,"love, love peace, peace."

  • @nnnbbbmmm79 But rather we are taught to be content wherever we are at, without complaining and whining. To be bold for we have been given the spirit of Boldness, courage and self-control. We are taught to love through our actions and not by lip service. We are taught to control our anger, control the stimulus, control our bodily desires. To speak slow and be quick to listen. To be filled with salt and light. To be committed and faithful not waffling like a double minded man. That is a man.

  • A real man of God is one who displays Godly character, like love, humility, selflessness, obedience to God, works as if working for God and not man, puts God first, before his own family or need for respect from others.

    Driscol, all I am seeing in your presentations is a guy high on his own masculinity and feelings of self sufficiency, his own stylish clothes and hair gel to complement his vanity.

    Beatitudes in Mathew 5:3-12 mention "blessed are the poor in spirit" and Blessed are the meek"

  • the devil eats and drinks from his left hand

  • Jesus probably was not considered a "dude" by the pharisees... Horrible response. To ask other people to judge a Mans character? Really... I thought you could do better than that...

  • @MrWesRR As opposed to who? who else is going to judge a persons character? Fathers/pastors are the best judge of who's going to be a godly husband.

  • @hubbs86 I dont have a seminary degree but I believe a common theme in the bible is do not Judge, Understandable their is good insight in Godly Men, but to error is human even for Godly husbands. Plus being a "Dudes Dude" Mark strongly emphasizes modern cultural worldly standards... like the "handbag/ cabriolle" compared to a "truck man" haha If anything the bible tells us Courage comes from the most unlikely places. Ex:David and Goliath, David could not even wear a mans armour...

  • @MrWesRR yea i get that driving a truck and looking tough doesn't make you a man. Being Christ-like, responsible, and loving your woman like christ loves the church makes you a man.

    the main place people go to in the bible to talk about judging is Romans 2. but, in this case, it's not at all relevant. it's talking about judging people for the same sins that you practice. Godly Fathers/Pastors can and should be allowed to 'judge' and vocalize the concerns they have about young men.

  • @hubbs86 I defenatly see your point, and I do think there is Truth to what you are saying. The message that comes across to me from Driscoll I have to disagree with. Just like you said "Being Christ-like, responsible, and loving your woman like christ loves the church makes you a man." is a great ex. of a Godly Man. which is not at all what Driscoll said, none of those words come out of his mouth. He says "a dudes dude", "mans man", and talks of an "inate dude meter" everyone like him has...

  • @MrWesRR this is where 2+2 makes 4 (to some people.) It's easy for a guy to lie to a girl and tell her that he's got all the right things going for him. it's a lot harder for a guy to lie to another guy (especially an older, more mature one). let me go out on a limb here and see if i can put this together for you. Man's man=Christ like loving husband.....dude's dude=honest hardworking guy.. if you really care about this issue, listen to the sermon 'marriage and men' by driscoll..

  • @hubbs86 I see the connection Driscoll is pointing too. I know it adds up for you. Nevertheless I am entitled to my opinion, to insult someones intelligence for their opinion is rude (2+2 makes 4) I told you I saw your point, and there is truth to what you say. Just because you see something one way does not make it a universal truth. Nor clear you to talk down to someone for their opinion. Driscoll posts a video, i critique. The video rubs me the wrong way, and I say I think he could do better.

  • @MrWesRR Be careful thinking you know everything there is to know about God... Hes the most enormous subject you will ever ponder and i do not think any man has it all figured out nor could ever understand him through our worldly eyes. This is why I do not like Driscoll, he tells people to avoid other christian writers for instance "The Shack" Driscoll preaches not to read the book.. why? because Driscoll doesnt like the symbolism... Driscoll assumes he knows more than other Christian authors.

  • @MrWesRR I know Driscoll IS a VERY talented Christian preacher... But when Preachers start to impose their beliefs because "I am right and you are wrong" theology. They clearly think they know more about God than the other person/ preacher/ pastor. To know Jesus is a personal relationship, and Driscoll has no AUTHORITY to assert the way he sees it as better than another Christian Author/person/pastor.

  • @MrWesRR Read Titus. I think your view on this topic might change afterword.

    -"These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you" -Titus 2:15

    - "This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith" -Titus 1:13

    - "He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it." -Titus 1:9

  • @mangled271 I will read read and study Titus. My life is full of errors.

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  • Being a brave and good man is absolutely nothing to do with godliness.

  • Soooo in Mark's eyes, a "dude" is some tool who puts too much gel in his hair talks about the definition of being masculine way too much, and listens to Creed? Yeah, chicks LOVE those guys.

  • My ex left me for a coward and regrets it. Her father loved me, said that I'm a real man and everything. The guy she is with now was the opposite. He was her ex before, tried to change him then and is trying to change him now. sheesh

  • make up your mind are you going dressed up or dressed down.

  • Funny statements, coming from a guy with more gel in his hair than his womans'. Before you talk about hand bags and trucks, wash that crap out of your hair and loose 30 pounds, dough boy.

  • @TheMichaelDenny SO true, dont you just hate it when some idiot like this thinks he is a spokesperson for men everywhere?, he thinks he is a representative for males everywhere, I bet 9/10 guys dont even associate with someone like him, who the hell does he think he is?

  • @TheMichaelDenny i guess his words made you realize you are a coward haha lol...

  • I really enjoy Mark's approach in so many areas, and although he at least gives a blanket approach to discernment (men in community DO know who the other men are, and if their weak points are deal breakers), his examples lean toward the one type of guy. Try looking at who the men are in a movie like Master and Commander (with Russel Crowe). It's full of different types of men. What do you do with academic types that don't look 'manly', but seek to live godly responsible lives?

  • Amen Pastor Mark! Thank you for the Godly video!

  • Unbelievable. I give Mark chance after chance and he still defines being godly as being a "dude"

  • @canzo0378, Driscoll isn't saying to kick them out of the church, but that they may not be ready to lead a spouse or family.  So while the girl may have to not date, or stop dating this type of guy, the church's response is to surround him with a community of Godly men and train him on how to be a man instead of a "boy who can shave", as Driscoll puts it.

  • @dsartain Too bad that scripture demands for immoral believers to be kicked out of the church. Mark doesn't do any of that because his work is based off money.

  • @dsartain i agree with what your saying about leading a family. like the kids..but the part where i dont agree with is where you said lead the spouse. it is true that god does want a man who has a family to lead them to be saved and go with christ. but when it comes to husbands and wifes no one should be above the other not the man above the woman thats not how it is..its all about partnership, love,commitment,not telling them what to do and lead them as you say .there not sheep. there people.

  • @batman4446 Many people believe that marriage is all about partnership. And to an extent, it is. Husbands and wives should absolutely confer with each other on decisions that need to be made, etc. There is absolutely equal value when it comes to the wife's dignity, value, and worth as she is made in the image of God, just like the husband.

    However, Paul is very clear in Ephesians 5 that the husband is the head of the household, and the wife is supposed to submit to that authority.

  • @batman4446 The husband then, is supposed to love his wife and treat her with dignity and respect. The language used in Ephesians 5 is effectively military terminology saying "line up in this way": husband, wife, children. Much like a squad leader is the first to face any dangers in way, so is the husband. When the wife steps out of line and challenges the husbands leadership, she opens herself up to pain that the husband is there to protect her from.

    Double post, stupid character restrictions.

  • @dsartain i get that the man comes first then the wife and child but here is the thing there is no line women are in or suppose to be in and 2 what pain are you talking about?. there is no pain hes protecting her frome at all..and number 2 there is no leadership like i said no one is meant to be above the other. if one is above the other there is no relationship just dicktatorship. the bible says man is first women then child..it does not mean it the way you think.god kicked adam out of eden too

  • @dsartain and another thing Paul is very clear in Ephesians 5 that is true but hes wrong and out of line when he says wife is supposed to submit to the authority of the man....it is true god told man what to write down in his word.but as for the mans authority that women are to submit too well thats not right sounds to me its dicktatorship. tell me what is the man's authority that god lets him have over women.whats that all about?..

  • @batman4446 Your statement doesn't make sense to me. If God told man what to write down in the Scriptures, then Paul can't be wrong because those words are inspired by God and hold His authority.

  • @dsartain ok im sorry for makeing that statement you are right about that because it is god's inspired word. but it does not change the fact that i am in the right about how wifes are to be treated and i dont feel im wrong in saying that women are equal with men sure we men are stronger then them in a physical way. but still it does not change the fact that women are people too and that they should have equal rights..i dont mean to be rude..it just piss's me off that women are always put down.

  • @dsartain Yeah, lets submit to men and let them manipulate us to do everything they want.. No.. not gonna happen. As for the "women submit to man" scripture, there is a different meaning behind it , it means whoever gives their life over to christ and repents. They are married.. to God.. and submit to him. Not women to men. Man does not have the right to dominate over a women just because of differences. Not children, children need to be guided in a way. But we are all equal, not man over women.

  • @Miikoong904 I have no issue with women being equal with man in dignity, value, and worth. This is because both are made in the image of God. Functionally, though, they have different roles in marriage. The man leads, the woman follows. This leading should be done as Christ did for the church, displayed in sacrificial love. This love doesn't allow for manipulation or oppression. That doesn't negate their role as head of the home, it tells them HOW to lead, not whether or not they should.

  • @dsartain What right do men have other than being physically stronger, to rule over women and wrap them around their little finger. I suppose we should let them beat us or command us to cook, or go make a sandwich. Why would God tell a women to submit to a man? They are both equal. I think it really means for the people that have repented and given their life over to christ and bear fruits and repent are married to God and submit to him, obey him, follow him, etc.

  • @Miikoong904 First, you're misunderstanding the idea of leading the home. Second, God's created order of man leading the home speaks nothing against equal value, because that is based in them both being the image of God. Third, I haven't heard of ANY theologian or pastor who believes Paul means what you're saying he does. Paul is explaining that marriage is a physical picture of Christ and the church. The man is the head of the home as Christ is the church.

  • wow...so Pastor Driscoll is encouraging people to ditch certain type of personality group and thus make them outcast of the society...even worse...the Christian society?? His pursuit of this "macho" stereotype is just way over the line. I'm not advocating those "cowards" but he just sounds like he wants people to have a cold, scorning bias against certain people rather than trying to embrace them even in the midst of their imperfectness. He sounds more and more like a bully!!

  • A coward is a man who follows the theology of a tyrant/murderer. His name is John Calvin. What does it say about you if John Calvin is who you "look up to?" It's pretty sad.

  • @coffinperson That is pretty strong wording, are you sure you said that in love for the brothers?, Because as much as you do not like his theory, you still have to deal with the bible statements where we were not just dead and slaves of sin(which is like neither plus nor minus) but, Vipers, Locus, and sons of the devil, plus what Can the sinner do?:John12:39-40,Rom 8:7,John 6:65..read from John6:34, love you..

  • lol it's like mark is on a morning show or something. i love it

  • The majority of men can't be honest when valuating a other man for a woman. If the man is more confident than the "friend" he will try to put him down in the eyes of the woman. Only if the "friend" guy is asked about a man he doesn't consider a "challenge" or to be "above" him will he be honest or maybe even give credit to the other guy. It is sad that most men are like this, but it's true. Oh and just to be fair women are even worse when they valuate a other woman.

  • Speaking as a woman, I think no self-respecting man should have anything to do with a woman who wants him to be "macho" and depends on her fathers and brothers to make decisions for her. Also no self-respecting woman should be with a man who expects that kind of an attitude out of her.

  • This is a fine example of misandry. I find it sad that feminist men, who bash men by making an example of the bad apples as examples of (supposedly) the majority. This movement to reduce men to animals to raise up women is a disservice to women as well. There are bad apples in both men and women, but modern society's preachers of misandry and feminiesm only point to men as bad examples to bring men down so that we can all be enslaved by destroying the order of authority set forth by scripture.

  • I would say any man who relies on a false entity such as this god moron is a coward who is incapable of living by his own action the same as any man who thinks the use of violence is more macho than using the brain. grow up boys, women don't go for playground fights and macho posing any more, besides the fact I could wipe the floor with any of them

  • wow ! didn't know you would respond that quickly. I'am already married to this man , and yes he wants me to talk to him about want he wants to talk about if not he will get up and leave ...or shut the door in my face [ bedroom door ] and i sleep on the couch , he wants me to ask what he wants me to ask , he said asking questions prove that the wife doesn't trust him , i told him that is not true , and wasn't true from the beginning , but now I don't t rust him in many ways

  • so far i keep hearing ask this and that , ask , ask ,ask ,,,,what do you do if the man does not want to answer any questions pertaining to him , or connected some how , never, gets all blown upset , when you do , and get called names if you do

  • @PEB979 He is not being a christian man and if you're a woman you need to get away from this type of guy, he will hinder your relationship with god.

    A real man should listen to criticism and learn how to be a better man and follow the example that Jesus set forth. Do not let a man abuse you physically, mentally, verbally, spiritually, financially, or other.