I agree with everything you said I mean a lot of WWE fans are getting excited over nothing when the product is stale and there are so many problems with in the company.
Alright LV, you do make good points however I don't agree with all of it. You think 2011 was a bad year. Look @ 2006. Horrible, HORRIBLE year in WWE. The neverending explotation of Eddie Guerrero's death, the roster became noticably depleted, ECW (need I say more?), RVD fucking up his push, DX returns only to have lame ass meaningless fueds, and too many wrestlers getting hurt (big names too).
AGREED on D. Bryan!!! Sure him being champion may seem good NOW but like you said he's been CONSTANTLY losing since Money in the Bank. With that and him doing a cheap cash in on Big Show I'm supose to be sold on him being champion? Yeah right! While I'm happy that he's champion I'm not looking forward to his run bc I know he's going to get a shit run with the belt. The fact that I was more excited over Zack Ryder's US title win than D. Bryan's World title win says something.
@iWcKiller nope. i dont make raw reviews/ppvs, etc. yet once someone makes a vid about supporting wwe champions, and i disagree with it with points, it somehow a crime? lol
@LV5454 but you go out of your way to make a 20 minute rant to begin with, and it's not out the blue, it's common with people like you. When you continuously talk about something your supposedly "done with", and have "no interest in", it's hard to sell that when you know every single detail as if you were watching every week. I only watch WWE casually these days, yet, you know more than I do, LMFAO
he got some points truthfully but it is getting better... Think about the Itbegins2012 promos, its exciting to know someone or something is returning in a huge way
@TASDisBACK i dont. why would i watch something i dont like? i havent watched since night of champions. but this vid had to made to show a different prespective of who i was responding to.
You make good videos, LV. It is just sometimes I can't agree with them or see where you are coming from because they SOOOOO subjective. Hey, granted, I get the exact same way about TNA, but still. This is yet another subject we just won't see eye to eye on anytime soon.
@Dalyxman (cont) once again, im being subjective? (see previous comments). you make good vids too btw. thats what make youtube fun, not everyone agrees on everything.
@LV5454 Dude, come on. :P You ARE subjective. You allow personal feelings, tastes, and opinions to influence how you view a wrestling company. You're no more subjective to WWE than I am to TNA. I can't stand the company and it shows in my videos. At least I admit I'm subjective to TNA, lol.
@Dalyxman um no im not. cause again if thats the case, i wouldnt of done the stuff i have done for wwe this year. same thing with tna. you have nothing to prove otherwise
@LV5454 Yes you are, lol. Just admit. And since you're gonna bring TNA into the picture, I'll counteract your statement with ROH. It has been completely disappointing this year and has done nothing to really draw interest except for Steen. Yet in most of your ROH reviews, you've pretty much praised it to be something worth watching over WWE. You don't call that being subjective? I do.
@Dalyxman i think it is something worth watching over wwe. roh makes their fueds, titles, build up seem important. wwe hasnt. im going by what they do.and at the same time, i call out roh on things i dont like, but at the end of the day imo its still something worth watching. i dont go around sweeping stuff under the rug that roh does, i make it known in my vids what i like and dont like. i didnt even order the roh anniversary show cause i didnt like the build to it. not subjective. sorry.
@LV5454 Whatever you say LV. Once again, good video. Subjective, but good video regardless. Let me just say one last thing. If WWE ends up taking the titles off of all those wrestlers, don't get mad, because you weren't there to support them with your view when they were champions. I may hate TNA, but I support Boddy Roode, James Storm, and all the other talents with my views, and I ignore everything else.
@LV5454 Hey, at least I'm supporting the people who have busted their asses and not give WWE a reason to depush them. By you not watching them, your helping the cause for WWE to go right back to how things use to be, because you refuse to get behind the change over personal (subjective) views.
@Dalyxman hmm personal? yeah illogical build up with titles not meaning anything is being subjective over? smh. it aint personal, the proof is on your tv. im calling it like i see it. making daniel bryan lose multiple matches and at random become champion? or the fact beth gets pinned all the time yet goes around calling herself a dominant diva? or cm punk who got a title by losing 3 straight ppv matches and he had to sumbit adr to saying yes to a title match and he wins the belt? its a joke
@LV5454 It's official. We just can't see eye to eye on this subject, like many others. It might just be we're just different types of wrestling fans then.
@Dalyxman I know you weren't talking to me, but you can't really be serious. I don't know about you, but If I'm investing my TIME and MONEY into a product, you bet your ass I'm going to allow my personal tastes to influence my perspective, because I don't have time and money to waste on a garbage product. To do and believe otherwise is to be a tool, if you ask me.
Again, you can love your indy promotions all you want, but you shouldn't become so subjective about them that you stubbornly avoid other companies when they're doing some great. No company is perfect, not even ROH. A wrestling fan picks out the positives and watches the company for what it is. I'm sorry LV, but the mentality you're using this video is not one of a wrestling fan, but one of a mark. Nothing wrong with being one, it just bothered me that said that ...
@Dalyxman (cont) im subjective about them? please. if thats the case i wouldnt of order extreme rules, i wouldnt of defended wwe during the whole nash stuff/summerslam (you even acknowledge it), ordered destination x, etc. you make no sense. a wrestling fan doesnt accept garbage. a wrestling sheep does. plain and simple. you watch a company for what it is? you pick out the positives? yet you bash tna and made an hour vid on it and havent spoken about it since? please yet again (cont)
@LV5454 Did I say you were ALWAYS subjective? I don't think so. That's your interpretation. Are you being subjective in this video? Yes. Also, are you really going to use that 1 hour long video againist me? HELLO! I made a fucking series bashing the WWE. That does not mean I don't watch them or appreciate the things they do. I appreciate Boddy Roode being world champion and I made a video about that on TLS. Just like I made a video on The Future of WWE 2012.
@Dalyxman how am i being subjective in this vid? the proof is what is on your tv. im calling it like it is. most of those champions/titles in that pic along with their build are not believable/not credible and the and you know it. plain and simple. and yes i am using your one hour vid against you since you're telling me i shouldnt be so "subjective" that i "stubbornly" avoid other companies when they're doing "great". tna fans think tna is doing great, yet you made a 1 hour tna bash vid???
@LV5454 That 1 hour video isn't helping your case. :P Everyone knows I'm VERY subjective to TNA. Not to mention that I made a series bashing WWE as well. Nothing is safe from bashing with me, so stop trying to make it seem like I'm protective of WWE when I'm not. When they do stupid shit, I'll bash them for it too. It may not be what YOU think it is.
@LV5454 Again, you're putting words into my mouth. I never told you NOT to be subjective. I only pointed out that you ARE subjective because I know a subjective person when I see when because I AM one. xD That's why I could not really agree with this video, because your views on the product is not how EVERYONE else sees them, it is very subjective view that only a few people have.
@LV5454 I can see where it appears I'm contradicting myself, but then again, I think I cleared that up where I said I still support Roode, James Storm, and others with my views. I don't let me subjective views stop me from admiring the good things the product puts out, which is what I was trying to tell you. You can be subjective because we ALL are subjective as fans. Just don't let it get so bad that you're saying FUCK EVERYTHING WWE DOES because you'll miss out on some good stuff.
Alright, after watching the entire video, here is what I have to say. If me getting behind what WWE is doing with Bryan/Punk/Ryder makes me a mark, then LV you might as well refer to yourself as a mark for what ROH is doing. I may not watch ROH alot, but I watch other indy promotions as too. I don't JUST watch WWE. Also, were you trying to imply that I am a blind supporter of Daniel Bryan? You should know more than anybody why I support Bryan Danielson, since you're knowledgable of his work.
@Dalyxman i dont consider myself a mark for roh. i dont around suggesting to ppl to "just enjoy" what they do. you on the other hand in your vid did. thats the difference between you and i. i just dont "enjoy" something. i gotta be given a reason to enjoy. otherwise i wouldnt have a problem watching tna either. telling ppl to just "enjoy" something is one of the weakest arguments you can make and just shows that you know what anyone does is nonsense. (cont)
Come on LV. The Benz comparison is a ridiculous. Guys like you and me the 25 yr old group has wanted this for years. This is why we have watched ROH for years. The belts have meant nothing for a long as time. We have not "bought into the belts" for how long? Just be happy that actual "wrestlers" have belts. If you love ROH like you say you do just be thankful guys like Punk, Sydal, Danielson are being recognized. The WWE has been that way for years. You are better than that LV.
@nextrevsonoma um no, im not gonna "just be happy" with shit that makes no sense and i explained why in the vid. the benz comparision is just like this topic. if i give you a benz with trash in it, you wouldnt buy it from me as such, but i tell you to just buy cause its what you wanted? please. and you say i should be thankful? gee you sure did listen to the whole vid huh? (rolls eyes)
I did listen to the whole vid. Your stuff is usually good. Why be pissed?
Of course it does not make any sense. The WWE has not made sense in how
long. Six maybe Eight years. Please do not turn into the stereotype that everyone gives us shit about that no matter what any wrestling
company does we complain about. Would you rather be pissed at the current champs or love another Cena,Orton domination. I get your point, but you can not have it both ways in today's wrestling.
@nextrevsonoma who is pissed? im responding to you and the rather questionable statements you just made.there have been times the wwe has made things reasonable which is why i continued to watch until a few months ago. and yeah i can have it both ways. i dont have to make vids like this on other promotions i watch do i? no. its not that hard to make things believable and logical. you dont need a fan like myself to tell you that. other ppl in the biz has said this as well
5. CM PUNK, WWE's best trolling of the year! (I will say this, the built-up to MITB was great. THAT'S IT!) A couple of factors on why I didn't buy into it this storyline at all will be elaborated (if anyone ask me)!
Great vid, but it really isn't about the belts not meaning something. That has somewhat to do with it but its mostly based on who's holding the belts. None of them really stand out besides Cody Rhodes, none of them look like they are big stars. Bryan Danielson, Borne, Kofi looks like regular people
(continued...) with no memorable progression except main eventing (or opening) Mania for the World tile, He wins MITB then does what every other has done (and NO! having "young" or newer talent sneaking and being opportunistic JUST to be champion is a cop out and it's NOT character progression). In closing, I never cared for this guy (being "new" or "young" doesn't mean being great).
1. The Rock returning to cut a couple of promos IS NOT an improvement, it only shows how bad the state of affairs is! (an full-time actor who hasn't wrestled full-time since 2002 is better than the entire roster, him being the supposed focal selling point of Mania this is proof enough).
2. Alberto Del Rio winning the Royal Rumble. I could actually stomach this now then when it happened but, the guy is green as grass (continued...)
You are a mark. You're just an internet mark. You're a mark for Jim Cornette and ROH. You're a mark for 70s style booking. You're a mark for guys using flashy moves. You are a mark, and I said so in my debut.
@Eonizzle if i was a mark i would agree and pander to every single thing pro wrestling including wwe does. if i was a mark for jim cornette i wouldnt call out some of the things he does in ROH. if i was a mark for 70s style booking i would be behind the build to the tv title match at final battle. if i was a mark for flashy moves i wouldnt rate a match as such negative five stars. if i was an roh mark i would pander to everything they do. internet mark? same scenario. your claim is invalid
@LV5454 I have literally never seen you call Jim Cornette out on anything ever. There is barely any build to the TV title match at Final Battle. Star ratings are for marks. You do pander to most of what ROH does. My claim is perfectly valid and I stand by it.
@Eonizzle if you actually seen my roh vids, you would know what i call roh out on including jim cornette. but much like dalyxman, you dont do that.which understandble. yes there is build to the tv title match and story behind it, and again if you watch my roh vids i said that the story behind makes no sense and i even said im least looking foward to it. you can stand by your claim as much as you want, but at the end of the day your definition of a mark makes no sense and it doesnt fit me period.
@LV5454 I guess it all boils down to this: a mark is somebody who lets their inner fan get in the way of objectivity when looking at the wrestling business. I honestly feel like, being 100% objective, the WWE has been exciting lately and ROH has offered me nothing. I feel like our champions right now haven't proven ANYTHING as far as whether they can draw money or not yet, but that is simply because this is their first real opportunity. Should they have been given more build? Of course!
@LV5454 but not every new superstar can get a Stone Cold Steve Austin-esque build. It just doesn't happen. I liken Daniel Bryan to Chris Jericho; everybody knew who he was before he showed up in the WWE. He won a midcard title quickly after debuting. He had a false main event title win that got taken back, but he got a huge reaction for it. Then, he got a legit title win at a big PPV, and again, he got a huge reaction. People never said "Chris Jericho hasn't gotten proper build" back then.
@Eonizzle a legit title win? i hope you're not talking vengance 2001 cause if so, noone bought into jericho as champion. even jericho said so in his book. and the reason for that is how he was presented as such. noone ever said guys need a austin like build, but at the end of the day make shit believable as you pull the trigger. only example i can come with per wwe this year was mark henry. not out of this word, but they made him believable going into noc against orton and it worked in the end
@LV5454 I won't justify the Diva's division because it's a mess but I don't think Dalyxman did either. If he did, I disagree with him on that one. Same with the tag division. They're both in shambles and don't deserve to be defended. But the other four champions are great. Punk has had issues being booked to look strong but he is thoroughly entertaining. Bryan, again, reminds me a lot of Jericho. Rhodes needs to defend the IC title more but his product is great. Ryder's had great build.
@Eonizzle The difference between Jericho and Daniel Bryan winning is that Jericho look like he could hang with the likes of Rock and Austin through promos and he portrayed himself has a star. Bryan showed hardly any promo ability or the look of a star.
@Eonizzle Star Ratings should have nothing to do of whether you are a mark or not,some people think star rating makes there rating more definite,while others think it's too critic-like
@USHARDY@Eonizzle ive been saying this for a while. there is no difference between me saying a match is *** or if a match is just "good". saying a person is "mark" because he or she uses star ratings is one of the ridicolous statements any fan can say.
@thebeasttony yea and things is WWE did not build Danielson up propelry. I mean you would think that the MITB has prestige right??? Well not with Danielson. They kept on making him lose match after match after match and ii got me thinking ok if this is happening y did wwe let him win and not Barret? So when he cashed in his MITB and won the World Title it was a joke and no believble.
@LV5454 You're making it seem like I'm saying, "shut up and just watch the damn product like a good fan" when I say just enjoy, lol. There is no "argument" to it. I just feel people should start looking at the benefits we are getting out of this. You do realize by you not watching, you're helping the cause for WWE to take the championships off of Punk, Bryan, and Ryder? You may not care, but I'm just saying. You like them? At least watch THEM and support THEM. Nothing about WWE.
i agree. they need to step their game up. hell change the rating to at least TV-14 so there can be interesting matches again. they need more tag teams. get rid of superstars and put new faces on both brands,cause honestly both shows suck ass with the crappy PG era it's in. fanning to all little kitties that don't know true wrestling like say Smackdown 2003. Brock Lesnar vs Big Show
IWC always talk about certain people being sheeps about stuff that don't make sense. Well guess what? You're the sheep because you're buying into crap that clearly doesn't make sense at all. If WWE wasn't starting the road to Wrestlemania I wouldn't watch WWE at all including Raw. Casual fans aren't going to get behind this nonsense. You think the ratings and ppv buys are low now, well it looks like it will get worse.
I agree in your video man. I still watch wwe but its getting to the point were why am i watching this? The picture with all the champs is a very good pic , but to me its a flaw. Cody doesnt defend the IC Tilte rarely. Air Boom well theres no tag div. Beth Phoenix who at one point with Natty that there were dominate divas and shes losing to eve and kelly kelly each week. Danielson i feel is going to drop the title very soon prolly Rumble. Its just gets to a point on y i do watch this? Great Vid
@Kstinnett192 I agree with you man. I ask myself why am i watching this all the time. What annoys me is that the new talent arent over like the guys were years ago. Bryan was a jobber but now he is the World Champ which is dumb. It only gets worst next year.
Agree with you 100%. All want is logic and believability from wrestling, which I thought this community was about, but majority of it doesn't care for that if their favorites are involve. Daniel Bryan is probably the worst ever World Champion I have ever seen. Who the hell loses a random tv match and then wins a world title just a couple days later and say they like it? It's a shame how this business of wrestling has reduce too. Cont.
The only great thing WWE did this year was the built up to Money in the Bank (and nothing afterwards was any good) The roster is STILL broken, the belts ARE props, and the storylines ARE uninteresting!
I don't know about anyone else, but if I gotta enjoy something just for the sake of enjoying it, the cause is not worth the effort, IMO. No one should have to endure substandard crap, regardless of the cause.
@Rjgmanc Correct. I've been preaching this stuff on & off here how since 05/06 Mid-Ruthless Aggression Era even to this current PG/Universe Era. With HHH, Edge, Batista, Orton & Cena (those are the prime ones). But I say not really so much blame Taker, HBK & Y2J as you said. Y2J was out for 16 months, HBK so so but was no way near as bad as HHH & Taker put over young talent like Kane did.
But yes things from the previous era & the start of this era did give WWE problems for today.
"I got what I want, but it ain't the way I wanted it" --- I can make an entire video response to that very statement and the things wrong with it. I might do that one day too.
Good video response. Hey, you are allowed to still be rejective of what WWE is giving you. That's your personal preference. However, be careful that you don't allow that preference to turn into stubbornness. You'll end up missing out on some great things in WWE all because of past flaws. You say you appreciate the people who are champions? Good, that's all I ask for. If you'll at least support them when they're on top, then you're free to not watch the product all you want.
WWE Title in my eyes has lost the most prestige this year, it's had 9 reigns with 5 different people this year. Mysterio's one should NO WAY have happened, Cena's 2nd one didn't really help matters but it was his 3rd one which NO WAY should have happened thus making Del Rio have a 2nd which shouldn't have happened.
Good video! I know this sounds corny but you just took the words out of my mouth. This made the most sense that I've seen when it comes to this topic. I've seen other guys make these videos but most just don't have their points clear & well organised, sadly.
In the your other video I described WWE as a "up & down year like patchy year", this hasn't been a "solid year". Jan-May=Up-ish, May-June=Down, July-Oct=Up, Oct-Dec=Meh or Mixture.
Really wrestling in general has fallen and really isnt as important as it was. Its hard to go from a somewhat superhero/villain kinda thing like Iron Sheik and Hulk Hogan all the way to Cm Punk and Alberto Del Rio. The main thing youre completely right, is that they play off not liking eachother as the reason theyre fighting. Rhodes/Booker is the best example. Show/Henry too, it shouldnt be about owning someone it should be about the ultimate goal the WWE title. great vid.
Cody who is getting better , has not really done anything relevant with his title except bring out the old ic belt and Air boom have barely been marketed and promoted since winning the belts. If wwe really wanted to make a statement they would show confidence in these guys in the lead in and have them come out on top in feature matches at wrestlemania.
same thing happened with zack ryder, he lost to ziggler in the title match, won the non title match, lost Alberto del rio in about 2 mins , lost to John cena and then gets wrecked by mark henry, the reason he gets the shot is because cena feels sorry for him. Again how does this build ryder up.Daniel bryan who is one of my faves was barely used on tv since mitb and when he was , he was the either losing or being the set up guy for someone else.
to me the lead in as to how some of them become champions is a problem to. So cm punk loses the belt to alberto del rio, then on the next pay per view loses to triple h, then loses by pinfall in the 3 way match for the title and then loses by pinfall again in the tag team match and now is number one contender? that right there is stupid. it is like saying floyd mayweather loses his next three fights and then giving him a title shot it is backwards
@buffbeenstuffed Damn right I was thinking the same thing about CM Punk journey to Survivor Series. Thats one of main reasons why I didnt order Survivor Series
I am by no means trying to convince you to get behind them right now. You have every right to have doubts. I'm just telling you why I am willing to give them a shot.
Also in response to what you said about the current crop of champions: - In terms of Rhodes not being in a meaningful feud, he was (or still is, not sure) in a pretty major feud with Booker T, - They have introduced Primo and Epico and are now using The Usos more, so that's a start for the tag team division, - Punk and Bryan have been misused over the last few months, undoubtedly. Hopefully the WWE have smarted up.
@TheAverageGrunt i didnt comment on the booker fued cause its been one month, but this looks like to be another dibiase fued where they just end it in one month. we'll see though.
Another thing is whats worse than titles not having credibility, is stale characters/wrestlers. If a title has a lot of prestige, but I don't give a shit about the wrestler, then its all for nothing. Take ROH for example, that title has a lot of prestige, but do I care who is holding that title? No. Richards is a great wrestler, but he is stale. I could careless for Edwards.
WWE have put on some very ordinary ppv this year. MITB and TLC were brillant though, but besides from them two, there haven't been any memorable shows. This year's WM was sub par imo. Also I can't get behind Ryder, his gimmick is a turn off.
I agree and yet I disagree. Some of these wrestlers don't have the credibility and believe-ability behind them. The titles don't mean much etc. Good wrestlers are champions, but not all of them are credible enough to be believed. However to see these guys be champion shows me that things are changing as far as guys the WWE is pushing. Not saying all of them will be main event wrestlers, but most of them should. Rhodes reign is memorable to me. In a group of reigns, this one shines the most.
@LV5454 its a fucking solid show, I'll likely jump on now and review it, it'll have spoilers though, so watch the show before comin around! Enjoy & cheers
@LV5454 Not at all. That HHH shit WAS bullshit. But this was different, new guys were the focus of the entire show, I suggest watching just to see for yourself.
@hurricanebtvs how many times have i heard ppl said this was different every time we see something new in wwe? plenty. and yet it leads back to square one. not saying you are cause it seems you have hope yet again, but im not gonna be prisoner of the moment, cause ive been down this road with wwe for years. until i notice consistency and believability then ill buy into what you're saying. until then im not gonna be prisoner of the moment
You make some very solid points. And you're right, the WWE is not the greatest promotion out there right now, but they're finally TRYING to be. And I can appreciate that.
I disagree with the people who say that 2011 has been a solid year for the WWE. The first half was hit and miss as per usual. But from July to now, I have heard the winds of change blowing. Is the WWE perfect? Of course not. Do they have problems? Hell yeah. But I see effort. The company is not going to turn awesome overnight. The changes will come slowly, as they have been for the last few months. But as long as they do come, I'm happy. I have hope for the future.
4. Daniel Bryan winning the World title IS A JOKE! (No smarks, I will not bow down to him because he's from ROH or supposedly "young") 2011 nothing memorable for Bryan, had a some forgettable feud with Sheamus and couldn't even make it to the Mania card (what does that tell you) does nothing afterwards, RANDOMLY wins MITB, continues to do nothing and THEN LIKE EVERYONE ELSE cowardly cashes in MITB, *BOOM* That's your World champion guys -_-)
TNA Booking is bullshit dont even mention that company.
GamerLawPantera 1 month ago
@GamerLawPantera and wwe booking isnt?
LV5454 1 month ago
i wish all you guys would just stop watching it noones forcing you to watch Wrestling has it crossed your mind you just dont like it!
Kanonite 1 month ago
@Kanonite i wont stop watching wrestling. theres plenty of wrestling promotions i watch and enjoy. i stopped watching wwe since september
LV5454 1 month ago
I agree with everything you said I mean a lot of WWE fans are getting excited over nothing when the product is stale and there are so many problems with in the company.
fitzgerald434 1 month ago
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fitzgerald434 1 month ago
Alright LV, you do make good points however I don't agree with all of it. You think 2011 was a bad year. Look @ 2006. Horrible, HORRIBLE year in WWE. The neverending explotation of Eddie Guerrero's death, the roster became noticably depleted, ECW (need I say more?), RVD fucking up his push, DX returns only to have lame ass meaningless fueds, and too many wrestlers getting hurt (big names too).
Big2thaTony 1 month ago 2
@Big2thaTony im aware of 2006. doesnt excuse the crap wwe did this year.a bad year is a bad year
LV5454 1 month ago
AGREED on D. Bryan!!! Sure him being champion may seem good NOW but like you said he's been CONSTANTLY losing since Money in the Bank. With that and him doing a cheap cash in on Big Show I'm supose to be sold on him being champion? Yeah right! While I'm happy that he's champion I'm not looking forward to his run bc I know he's going to get a shit run with the belt. The fact that I was more excited over Zack Ryder's US title win than D. Bryan's World title win says something.
Big2thaTony 2 months ago
@iWcKiller lol yet i havent talked about the current product, but its wrong to respond to a vid? lol
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 in order to respond to said vid, you would have to talk about the current product
iWcKiller 2 months ago
@iWcKiller again, i havent talked about the current product individually, yet its wrong to make a response?
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 this video is a rant on the current product, LMFAO. I made my points loud and clear, period
iWcKiller 2 months ago
@iWcKiller nope. i dont make raw reviews/ppvs, etc. yet once someone makes a vid about supporting wwe champions, and i disagree with it with points, it somehow a crime? lol
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 but you go out of your way to make a 20 minute rant to begin with, and it's not out the blue, it's common with people like you. When you continuously talk about something your supposedly "done with", and have "no interest in", it's hard to sell that when you know every single detail as if you were watching every week. I only watch WWE casually these days, yet, you know more than I do, LMFAO
iWcKiller 2 months ago
@iWcKiller its common, yet i dont make reviews, etc. lol.
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 that disputes what I posted how?
iWcKiller 2 months ago
he got some points truthfully but it is getting better... Think about the Itbegins2012 promos, its exciting to know someone or something is returning in a huge way
TASDisBACK 2 months ago
1 minute into it and already a mistake "I dont watch something I dont like" So he doesnt watch it
TASDisBACK 2 months ago
@TASDisBACK i dont. why would i watch something i dont like? i havent watched since night of champions. but this vid had to made to show a different prespective of who i was responding to.
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 oh since NoC? I see, well let me just say that Y2J should be returning on the 2nd of january.
TASDisBACK 2 months ago
You make good videos, LV. It is just sometimes I can't agree with them or see where you are coming from because they SOOOOO subjective. Hey, granted, I get the exact same way about TNA, but still. This is yet another subject we just won't see eye to eye on anytime soon.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
@Dalyxman (cont) once again, im being subjective? (see previous comments). you make good vids too btw. thats what make youtube fun, not everyone agrees on everything.
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 Dude, come on. :P You ARE subjective. You allow personal feelings, tastes, and opinions to influence how you view a wrestling company. You're no more subjective to WWE than I am to TNA. I can't stand the company and it shows in my videos. At least I admit I'm subjective to TNA, lol.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
@Dalyxman um no im not. cause again if thats the case, i wouldnt of done the stuff i have done for wwe this year. same thing with tna. you have nothing to prove otherwise
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 Yes you are, lol. Just admit. And since you're gonna bring TNA into the picture, I'll counteract your statement with ROH. It has been completely disappointing this year and has done nothing to really draw interest except for Steen. Yet in most of your ROH reviews, you've pretty much praised it to be something worth watching over WWE. You don't call that being subjective? I do.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
@Dalyxman i think it is something worth watching over wwe. roh makes their fueds, titles, build up seem important. wwe hasnt. im going by what they do.and at the same time, i call out roh on things i dont like, but at the end of the day imo its still something worth watching. i dont go around sweeping stuff under the rug that roh does, i make it known in my vids what i like and dont like. i didnt even order the roh anniversary show cause i didnt like the build to it. not subjective. sorry.
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 Whatever you say LV. Once again, good video. Subjective, but good video regardless. Let me just say one last thing. If WWE ends up taking the titles off of all those wrestlers, don't get mad, because you weren't there to support them with your view when they were champions. I may hate TNA, but I support Boddy Roode, James Storm, and all the other talents with my views, and I ignore everything else.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
@Dalyxman subjective, yet i mentioned the same faults you admitted with wwe that i made in this vid. yet im subjective? lol.
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 Hey, at least I'm supporting the people who have busted their asses and not give WWE a reason to depush them. By you not watching them, your helping the cause for WWE to go right back to how things use to be, because you refuse to get behind the change over personal (subjective) views.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
@Dalyxman hmm personal? yeah illogical build up with titles not meaning anything is being subjective over? smh. it aint personal, the proof is on your tv. im calling it like i see it. making daniel bryan lose multiple matches and at random become champion? or the fact beth gets pinned all the time yet goes around calling herself a dominant diva? or cm punk who got a title by losing 3 straight ppv matches and he had to sumbit adr to saying yes to a title match and he wins the belt? its a joke
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 It's official. We just can't see eye to eye on this subject, like many others. It might just be we're just different types of wrestling fans then.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
@Dalyxman I know you weren't talking to me, but you can't really be serious. I don't know about you, but If I'm investing my TIME and MONEY into a product, you bet your ass I'm going to allow my personal tastes to influence my perspective, because I don't have time and money to waste on a garbage product. To do and believe otherwise is to be a tool, if you ask me.
MisterDynamite 2 months ago
@MisterDynamite Okay, that's perfectly fine.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
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Again, you can love your indy promotions all you want, but you shouldn't become so subjective about them that you stubbornly avoid other companies when they're doing some great. No company is perfect, not even ROH. A wrestling fan picks out the positives and watches the company for what it is. I'm sorry LV, but the mentality you're using this video is not one of a wrestling fan, but one of a mark. Nothing wrong with being one, it just bothered me that said that ...
Dalyxman 2 months ago
@Dalyxman (cont) im subjective about them? please. if thats the case i wouldnt of order extreme rules, i wouldnt of defended wwe during the whole nash stuff/summerslam (you even acknowledge it), ordered destination x, etc. you make no sense. a wrestling fan doesnt accept garbage. a wrestling sheep does. plain and simple. you watch a company for what it is? you pick out the positives? yet you bash tna and made an hour vid on it and havent spoken about it since? please yet again (cont)
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 Did I say you were ALWAYS subjective? I don't think so. That's your interpretation. Are you being subjective in this video? Yes. Also, are you really going to use that 1 hour long video againist me? HELLO! I made a fucking series bashing the WWE. That does not mean I don't watch them or appreciate the things they do. I appreciate Boddy Roode being world champion and I made a video about that on TLS. Just like I made a video on The Future of WWE 2012.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
@Dalyxman how am i being subjective in this vid? the proof is what is on your tv. im calling it like it is. most of those champions/titles in that pic along with their build are not believable/not credible and the and you know it. plain and simple. and yes i am using your one hour vid against you since you're telling me i shouldnt be so "subjective" that i "stubbornly" avoid other companies when they're doing "great". tna fans think tna is doing great, yet you made a 1 hour tna bash vid???
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 That 1 hour video isn't helping your case. :P Everyone knows I'm VERY subjective to TNA. Not to mention that I made a series bashing WWE as well. Nothing is safe from bashing with me, so stop trying to make it seem like I'm protective of WWE when I'm not. When they do stupid shit, I'll bash them for it too. It may not be what YOU think it is.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
@Dalyxman so why even suggest me to not be "subjective" when you're just that with tna? practice what you preach.
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 Again, you're putting words into my mouth. I never told you NOT to be subjective. I only pointed out that you ARE subjective because I know a subjective person when I see when because I AM one. xD That's why I could not really agree with this video, because your views on the product is not how EVERYONE else sees them, it is very subjective view that only a few people have.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
@Dalyxman you told me i shouldnt. go read your comments. again, dont tell someone to not be as such when you do the same thing.
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 I can see where it appears I'm contradicting myself, but then again, I think I cleared that up where I said I still support Roode, James Storm, and others with my views. I don't let me subjective views stop me from admiring the good things the product puts out, which is what I was trying to tell you. You can be subjective because we ALL are subjective as fans. Just don't let it get so bad that you're saying FUCK EVERYTHING WWE DOES because you'll miss out on some good stuff.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
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Dalyxman 2 months ago
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Dalyxman 2 months ago
@Dalyxman why did he remove your comment
jeffhardynextwweman2 2 months ago
@jeffhardynextwweman2 @dalyxman he removed it
LV5454 2 months ago
@jeffhardynextwweman2 No I removed it because I had to retype it. I misworded a few things. :/
Dalyxman 2 months ago
Alright, after watching the entire video, here is what I have to say. If me getting behind what WWE is doing with Bryan/Punk/Ryder makes me a mark, then LV you might as well refer to yourself as a mark for what ROH is doing. I may not watch ROH alot, but I watch other indy promotions as too. I don't JUST watch WWE. Also, were you trying to imply that I am a blind supporter of Daniel Bryan? You should know more than anybody why I support Bryan Danielson, since you're knowledgable of his work.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
@Dalyxman i dont consider myself a mark for roh. i dont around suggesting to ppl to "just enjoy" what they do. you on the other hand in your vid did. thats the difference between you and i. i just dont "enjoy" something. i gotta be given a reason to enjoy. otherwise i wouldnt have a problem watching tna either. telling ppl to just "enjoy" something is one of the weakest arguments you can make and just shows that you know what anyone does is nonsense. (cont)
LV5454 2 months ago
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Dalyxman 2 months ago
Come on LV. The Benz comparison is a ridiculous. Guys like you and me the 25 yr old group has wanted this for years. This is why we have watched ROH for years. The belts have meant nothing for a long as time. We have not "bought into the belts" for how long? Just be happy that actual "wrestlers" have belts. If you love ROH like you say you do just be thankful guys like Punk, Sydal, Danielson are being recognized. The WWE has been that way for years. You are better than that LV.
nextrevsonoma 2 months ago
@nextrevsonoma um no, im not gonna "just be happy" with shit that makes no sense and i explained why in the vid. the benz comparision is just like this topic. if i give you a benz with trash in it, you wouldnt buy it from me as such, but i tell you to just buy cause its what you wanted? please. and you say i should be thankful? gee you sure did listen to the whole vid huh? (rolls eyes)
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454
I did listen to the whole vid. Your stuff is usually good. Why be pissed?
Of course it does not make any sense. The WWE has not made sense in how
long. Six maybe Eight years. Please do not turn into the stereotype that everyone gives us shit about that no matter what any wrestling
company does we complain about. Would you rather be pissed at the current champs or love another Cena,Orton domination. I get your point, but you can not have it both ways in today's wrestling.
nextrevsonoma 2 months ago
@nextrevsonoma who is pissed? im responding to you and the rather questionable statements you just made.there have been times the wwe has made things reasonable which is why i continued to watch until a few months ago. and yeah i can have it both ways. i dont have to make vids like this on other promotions i watch do i? no. its not that hard to make things believable and logical. you dont need a fan like myself to tell you that. other ppl in the biz has said this as well
LV5454 2 months ago
(continued...)
5. CM PUNK, WWE's best trolling of the year! (I will say this, the built-up to MITB was great. THAT'S IT!) A couple of factors on why I didn't buy into it this storyline at all will be elaborated (if anyone ask me)!
(to be continued...)
TheManintheTrench 2 months ago
Great vid, but it really isn't about the belts not meaning something. That has somewhat to do with it but its mostly based on who's holding the belts. None of them really stand out besides Cody Rhodes, none of them look like they are big stars. Bryan Danielson, Borne, Kofi looks like regular people
ClutchKiller1 2 months ago
Great vid. Couldn't have said it better myself.
defyinggravity503 2 months ago
One of the best wrestling related vids I've ever seen. (Well, listened to.)
brittinharrison 2 months ago
(continued...) with no memorable progression except main eventing (or opening) Mania for the World tile, He wins MITB then does what every other has done (and NO! having "young" or newer talent sneaking and being opportunistic JUST to be champion is a cop out and it's NOT character progression). In closing, I never cared for this guy (being "new" or "young" doesn't mean being great).
3. The Miz (a whole different rant entirely)
(continued...)
TheManintheTrench 2 months ago
RANT TIME!
WWE in 2011 has not been great!
1. The Rock returning to cut a couple of promos IS NOT an improvement, it only shows how bad the state of affairs is! (an full-time actor who hasn't wrestled full-time since 2002 is better than the entire roster, him being the supposed focal selling point of Mania this is proof enough).
2. Alberto Del Rio winning the Royal Rumble. I could actually stomach this now then when it happened but, the guy is green as grass (continued...)
TheManintheTrench 2 months ago
Love this vid
BillyPazienza 2 months ago
You are a mark. You're just an internet mark. You're a mark for Jim Cornette and ROH. You're a mark for 70s style booking. You're a mark for guys using flashy moves. You are a mark, and I said so in my debut.
Eonizzle 2 months ago
@Eonizzle if i was a mark i would agree and pander to every single thing pro wrestling including wwe does. if i was a mark for jim cornette i wouldnt call out some of the things he does in ROH. if i was a mark for 70s style booking i would be behind the build to the tv title match at final battle. if i was a mark for flashy moves i wouldnt rate a match as such negative five stars. if i was an roh mark i would pander to everything they do. internet mark? same scenario. your claim is invalid
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 I have literally never seen you call Jim Cornette out on anything ever. There is barely any build to the TV title match at Final Battle. Star ratings are for marks. You do pander to most of what ROH does. My claim is perfectly valid and I stand by it.
Eonizzle 2 months ago
@Eonizzle if you actually seen my roh vids, you would know what i call roh out on including jim cornette. but much like dalyxman, you dont do that.which understandble. yes there is build to the tv title match and story behind it, and again if you watch my roh vids i said that the story behind makes no sense and i even said im least looking foward to it. you can stand by your claim as much as you want, but at the end of the day your definition of a mark makes no sense and it doesnt fit me period.
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 I guess it all boils down to this: a mark is somebody who lets their inner fan get in the way of objectivity when looking at the wrestling business. I honestly feel like, being 100% objective, the WWE has been exciting lately and ROH has offered me nothing. I feel like our champions right now haven't proven ANYTHING as far as whether they can draw money or not yet, but that is simply because this is their first real opportunity. Should they have been given more build? Of course!
Eonizzle 2 months ago
@LV5454 but not every new superstar can get a Stone Cold Steve Austin-esque build. It just doesn't happen. I liken Daniel Bryan to Chris Jericho; everybody knew who he was before he showed up in the WWE. He won a midcard title quickly after debuting. He had a false main event title win that got taken back, but he got a huge reaction for it. Then, he got a legit title win at a big PPV, and again, he got a huge reaction. People never said "Chris Jericho hasn't gotten proper build" back then.
Eonizzle 2 months ago
@Eonizzle a legit title win? i hope you're not talking vengance 2001 cause if so, noone bought into jericho as champion. even jericho said so in his book. and the reason for that is how he was presented as such. noone ever said guys need a austin like build, but at the end of the day make shit believable as you pull the trigger. only example i can come with per wwe this year was mark henry. not out of this word, but they made him believable going into noc against orton and it worked in the end
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 I won't justify the Diva's division because it's a mess but I don't think Dalyxman did either. If he did, I disagree with him on that one. Same with the tag division. They're both in shambles and don't deserve to be defended. But the other four champions are great. Punk has had issues being booked to look strong but he is thoroughly entertaining. Bryan, again, reminds me a lot of Jericho. Rhodes needs to defend the IC title more but his product is great. Ryder's had great build.
Eonizzle 2 months ago
@Eonizzle he wasnt justifying the division he was more saying that beth pheonix brings prestige and credibility to the division and title
LV5454 2 months ago
@Eonizzle The difference between Jericho and Daniel Bryan winning is that Jericho look like he could hang with the likes of Rock and Austin through promos and he portrayed himself has a star. Bryan showed hardly any promo ability or the look of a star.
24varner 2 months ago
@Eonizzle Star Ratings should have nothing to do of whether you are a mark or not,some people think star rating makes there rating more definite,while others think it's too critic-like
USHARDY 2 months ago
@USHARDY @Eonizzle ive been saying this for a while. there is no difference between me saying a match is *** or if a match is just "good". saying a person is "mark" because he or she uses star ratings is one of the ridicolous statements any fan can say.
LV5454 2 months ago
@thebeasttony yea and things is WWE did not build Danielson up propelry. I mean you would think that the MITB has prestige right??? Well not with Danielson. They kept on making him lose match after match after match and ii got me thinking ok if this is happening y did wwe let him win and not Barret? So when he cashed in his MITB and won the World Title it was a joke and no believble.
Kstinnett192 2 months ago
LV you gave me chills when you started talking about the tag team titles sound like martin luther king or malcolm X lol
codejjm 2 months ago
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@LV5454 You're making it seem like I'm saying, "shut up and just watch the damn product like a good fan" when I say just enjoy, lol. There is no "argument" to it. I just feel people should start looking at the benefits we are getting out of this. You do realize by you not watching, you're helping the cause for WWE to take the championships off of Punk, Bryan, and Ryder? You may not care, but I'm just saying. You like them? At least watch THEM and support THEM. Nothing about WWE.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
i agree. they need to step their game up. hell change the rating to at least TV-14 so there can be interesting matches again. they need more tag teams. get rid of superstars and put new faces on both brands,cause honestly both shows suck ass with the crappy PG era it's in. fanning to all little kitties that don't know true wrestling like say Smackdown 2003. Brock Lesnar vs Big Show
cawowner54 2 months ago
IWC always talk about certain people being sheeps about stuff that don't make sense. Well guess what? You're the sheep because you're buying into crap that clearly doesn't make sense at all. If WWE wasn't starting the road to Wrestlemania I wouldn't watch WWE at all including Raw. Casual fans aren't going to get behind this nonsense. You think the ratings and ppv buys are low now, well it looks like it will get worse.
24varner 2 months ago
@24varner disregard the last comment i sent to you if you seen it already, i thought you were refering to me as a sheep.
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 Oh that's ok. I should have made an annotation during that last comment.
24varner 2 months ago
I agree in your video man. I still watch wwe but its getting to the point were why am i watching this? The picture with all the champs is a very good pic , but to me its a flaw. Cody doesnt defend the IC Tilte rarely. Air Boom well theres no tag div. Beth Phoenix who at one point with Natty that there were dominate divas and shes losing to eve and kelly kelly each week. Danielson i feel is going to drop the title very soon prolly Rumble. Its just gets to a point on y i do watch this? Great Vid
Kstinnett192 2 months ago
@Kstinnett192 I agree with you man. I ask myself why am i watching this all the time. What annoys me is that the new talent arent over like the guys were years ago. Bryan was a jobber but now he is the World Champ which is dumb. It only gets worst next year.
thebeasttony 2 months ago
Agree with you 100%. All want is logic and believability from wrestling, which I thought this community was about, but majority of it doesn't care for that if their favorites are involve. Daniel Bryan is probably the worst ever World Champion I have ever seen. Who the hell loses a random tv match and then wins a world title just a couple days later and say they like it? It's a shame how this business of wrestling has reduce too. Cont.
24varner 2 months ago
The only great thing WWE did this year was the built up to Money in the Bank (and nothing afterwards was any good) The roster is STILL broken, the belts ARE props, and the storylines ARE uninteresting!
TheManintheTrench 2 months ago
well i dont watch it cause its very boring and i dont wanna waste my time watching something that predictable
Seemplay101 2 months ago
I don't know about anyone else, but if I gotta enjoy something just for the sake of enjoying it, the cause is not worth the effort, IMO. No one should have to endure substandard crap, regardless of the cause.
MisterDynamite 2 months ago
glad to see im not the only one buying into this premature new era crap.
These guys were not put over by the previous era(hunter, hbk, edge, batista, taker, y2j), those guys bailed without putting over anybody.
which is why i can't get into these guys, they haven't had that defining feud. Just being good in-ring workers isn't enough.
Rjgmanc 2 months ago
@Rjgmanc Correct. I've been preaching this stuff on & off here how since 05/06 Mid-Ruthless Aggression Era even to this current PG/Universe Era. With HHH, Edge, Batista, Orton & Cena (those are the prime ones). But I say not really so much blame Taker, HBK & Y2J as you said. Y2J was out for 16 months, HBK so so but was no way near as bad as HHH & Taker put over young talent like Kane did.
But yes things from the previous era & the start of this era did give WWE problems for today.
ThePacmanClassic 2 months ago
"I got what I want, but it ain't the way I wanted it" --- I can make an entire video response to that very statement and the things wrong with it. I might do that one day too.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
The WWE Title got past around 8 time this year, just one time than the time people say was the year of WWE in 2002.
sychowalker 2 months ago
Good video response. Hey, you are allowed to still be rejective of what WWE is giving you. That's your personal preference. However, be careful that you don't allow that preference to turn into stubbornness. You'll end up missing out on some great things in WWE all because of past flaws. You say you appreciate the people who are champions? Good, that's all I ask for. If you'll at least support them when they're on top, then you're free to not watch the product all you want.
Dalyxman 2 months ago
WWE Title in my eyes has lost the most prestige this year, it's had 9 reigns with 5 different people this year. Mysterio's one should NO WAY have happened, Cena's 2nd one didn't really help matters but it was his 3rd one which NO WAY should have happened thus making Del Rio have a 2nd which shouldn't have happened.
ThePacmanClassic 2 months ago
Good video! I know this sounds corny but you just took the words out of my mouth. This made the most sense that I've seen when it comes to this topic. I've seen other guys make these videos but most just don't have their points clear & well organised, sadly.
In the your other video I described WWE as a "up & down year like patchy year", this hasn't been a "solid year". Jan-May=Up-ish, May-June=Down, July-Oct=Up, Oct-Dec=Meh or Mixture.
ThePacmanClassic 2 months ago
a dominant force hes not fucking big show hes daniel bryan...
JarrodDrover123 2 months ago
divas title is the biggest prop everrrrrrrr
JarrodDrover123 2 months ago
they need to have punk and bryan walk into mania as champs not throw the belt on orton casue its mania...
JarrodDrover123 2 months ago
Really wrestling in general has fallen and really isnt as important as it was. Its hard to go from a somewhat superhero/villain kinda thing like Iron Sheik and Hulk Hogan all the way to Cm Punk and Alberto Del Rio. The main thing youre completely right, is that they play off not liking eachother as the reason theyre fighting. Rhodes/Booker is the best example. Show/Henry too, it shouldnt be about owning someone it should be about the ultimate goal the WWE title. great vid.
Manonfire310 2 months ago
Youre a car salesman? son of a...
Manonfire310 2 months ago
Cody who is getting better , has not really done anything relevant with his title except bring out the old ic belt and Air boom have barely been marketed and promoted since winning the belts. If wwe really wanted to make a statement they would show confidence in these guys in the lead in and have them come out on top in feature matches at wrestlemania.
buffbeenstuffed 2 months ago
same thing happened with zack ryder, he lost to ziggler in the title match, won the non title match, lost Alberto del rio in about 2 mins , lost to John cena and then gets wrecked by mark henry, the reason he gets the shot is because cena feels sorry for him. Again how does this build ryder up.Daniel bryan who is one of my faves was barely used on tv since mitb and when he was , he was the either losing or being the set up guy for someone else.
buffbeenstuffed 2 months ago
to me the lead in as to how some of them become champions is a problem to. So cm punk loses the belt to alberto del rio, then on the next pay per view loses to triple h, then loses by pinfall in the 3 way match for the title and then loses by pinfall again in the tag team match and now is number one contender? that right there is stupid. it is like saying floyd mayweather loses his next three fights and then giving him a title shot it is backwards
buffbeenstuffed 2 months ago
@buffbeenstuffed Damn right I was thinking the same thing about CM Punk journey to Survivor Series. Thats one of main reasons why I didnt order Survivor Series
Gavin48 2 months ago
I am by no means trying to convince you to get behind them right now. You have every right to have doubts. I'm just telling you why I am willing to give them a shot.
TheAverageGrunt 2 months ago
Also in response to what you said about the current crop of champions: - In terms of Rhodes not being in a meaningful feud, he was (or still is, not sure) in a pretty major feud with Booker T, - They have introduced Primo and Epico and are now using The Usos more, so that's a start for the tag team division, - Punk and Bryan have been misused over the last few months, undoubtedly. Hopefully the WWE have smarted up.
TheAverageGrunt 2 months ago
@TheAverageGrunt i didnt comment on the booker fued cause its been one month, but this looks like to be another dibiase fued where they just end it in one month. we'll see though.
LV5454 2 months ago
Another thing is whats worse than titles not having credibility, is stale characters/wrestlers. If a title has a lot of prestige, but I don't give a shit about the wrestler, then its all for nothing. Take ROH for example, that title has a lot of prestige, but do I care who is holding that title? No. Richards is a great wrestler, but he is stale. I could careless for Edwards.
GoldStandard000 2 months ago
WWE have put on some very ordinary ppv this year. MITB and TLC were brillant though, but besides from them two, there haven't been any memorable shows. This year's WM was sub par imo. Also I can't get behind Ryder, his gimmick is a turn off.
godanselmo 2 months ago
I agree and yet I disagree. Some of these wrestlers don't have the credibility and believe-ability behind them. The titles don't mean much etc. Good wrestlers are champions, but not all of them are credible enough to be believed. However to see these guys be champion shows me that things are changing as far as guys the WWE is pushing. Not saying all of them will be main event wrestlers, but most of them should. Rhodes reign is memorable to me. In a group of reigns, this one shines the most.
GoldStandard000 2 months ago
Love that passion man!
Wanna be reminded that wrestling is not entirely sour and inconsistent?
Check out the newest BJW show (uploaded by SenorPuroresu)
Or come check out my latest video, Sekimoto could move a Mountain, and hopefully cheer you up as well ; )
BurningDiscipline 2 months ago
@BurningDiscipline trust me my friend, im way ahead of you on the bjw show ;)
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 its a fucking solid show, I'll likely jump on now and review it, it'll have spoilers though, so watch the show before comin around! Enjoy & cheers
BurningDiscipline 2 months ago
I'm still mad how WWE did Christian earlier in the year. Until Christian gets a legit reign, WWE shall have no forgiveness from me. Good vid.
TophDaGreat 2 months ago
Honestly, Raw makes your argument invalid to a degree. This week's episode really felt like a new era.
hurricanebtvs 2 months ago
@hurricanebtvs much like when triple h came in as coo the week after vince was "relieved of his duties"? this new era bullshit is old news
LV5454 2 months ago
@LV5454 Not at all. That HHH shit WAS bullshit. But this was different, new guys were the focus of the entire show, I suggest watching just to see for yourself.
hurricanebtvs 2 months ago
@hurricanebtvs how many times have i heard ppl said this was different every time we see something new in wwe? plenty. and yet it leads back to square one. not saying you are cause it seems you have hope yet again, but im not gonna be prisoner of the moment, cause ive been down this road with wwe for years. until i notice consistency and believability then ill buy into what you're saying. until then im not gonna be prisoner of the moment
LV5454 2 months ago
You make some very solid points. And you're right, the WWE is not the greatest promotion out there right now, but they're finally TRYING to be. And I can appreciate that.
TheAverageGrunt 2 months ago
Makes sense
ROHAwesomeJesse 2 months ago
I disagree with the people who say that 2011 has been a solid year for the WWE. The first half was hit and miss as per usual. But from July to now, I have heard the winds of change blowing. Is the WWE perfect? Of course not. Do they have problems? Hell yeah. But I see effort. The company is not going to turn awesome overnight. The changes will come slowly, as they have been for the last few months. But as long as they do come, I'm happy. I have hope for the future.
TheAverageGrunt 2 months ago
you make more sense than wrestlingjesus,
hhunt28 2 months ago
GREAT VID LV!
MisterOldSchool1 2 months ago
(continued...)
4. Daniel Bryan winning the World title IS A JOKE! (No smarks, I will not bow down to him because he's from ROH or supposedly "young") 2011 nothing memorable for Bryan, had a some forgettable feud with Sheamus and couldn't even make it to the Mania card (what does that tell you) does nothing afterwards, RANDOMLY wins MITB, continues to do nothing and THEN LIKE EVERYONE ELSE cowardly cashes in MITB, *BOOM* That's your World champion guys -_-)
TheManintheTrench 2 months ago