I annoys me that he refers to mining the back & proxy strategies as 'cheese' - it implies that he disapproves of them. All strategies are legitimate unless you want to say the game is imbalanced, that's not usually the kind of talk you hear from good players.
There are some strategies/tactics which are considered cheap by almost everybody. For instance, it is an illegal move in most tourneys to lift a terran building and float them above a missile turret.
I felt Striker was in it for so long only because of the huge mistake Orion made losing those reavers when he had striker's army on the run. He got way too close with them and i definintely thought it was a huge mistake as opposed to a great snipe as Cholera suggested.
Either way, great back and forth game from great (for amateur level) players and a great commentary as always, Cholera.
I don't think that zerg mid game hydra attack that took down the nexus was as good as cholera made it seem. He took out a nexus and a few high templar but thats pretty much it, and he lost his entire force of hydras. Doesn't seem like that good a trade to me.
zerg lost because it was too defensive and didn't use the defilers on the cannons in the middle. the power of zerg is being everywhere at once,, none of that happened
I annoys me that he refers to mining the back & proxy strategies as 'cheese' - it implies that he disapproves of them. All strategies are legitimate unless you want to say the game is imbalanced, that's not usually the kind of talk you hear from good players.
supermot34 2 years ago
There are some strategies/tactics which are considered cheap by almost everybody. For instance, it is an illegal move in most tourneys to lift a terran building and float them above a missile turret.
regentcid 2 years ago
True, but the kind of things that are illegal are always little things like that.
If something is not illegal, you should be able to play it without people calling it a cheese strategy.
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MrSushan 2 years ago
Great game, great commentary.
I felt Striker was in it for so long only because of the huge mistake Orion made losing those reavers when he had striker's army on the run. He got way too close with them and i definintely thought it was a huge mistake as opposed to a great snipe as Cholera suggested.
Either way, great back and forth game from great (for amateur level) players and a great commentary as always, Cholera.
hamster4sale 2 years ago
Wow! haha this video is amazing! The quality is great and it is very informative.
Thanks for posting!
chick5581 2 years ago
haha. spinning reaver was funny.
great game also
arkaridge 2 years ago
I don't think that zerg mid game hydra attack that took down the nexus was as good as cholera made it seem. He took out a nexus and a few high templar but thats pretty much it, and he lost his entire force of hydras. Doesn't seem like that good a trade to me.
Jdog7117 2 years ago 2
hez a zerg player :) probably doesnt know the exact cannon placement yet?
saycheesebiatch 2 years ago
SWFear4, yes.. fastest always, everywhere
wBerings 2 years ago
Question: Are most tourney games played on the "fastest" speed setting?
SWFfear4 2 years ago
yes
quachyq 2 years ago
great game from both players, tbh even looked a little like pro play lol.
uzernam302 2 years ago 2
That was a VERY good game for the amateur level.
See, foreigners can be entertaining to watch lol.
Schlickk 2 years ago 3
Sorry for a noobish comment, but what map is this? ;P
Kattenslilla 2 years ago
Destination
valund 2 years ago
zerg lost because it was too defensive and didn't use the defilers on the cannons in the middle. the power of zerg is being everywhere at once,, none of that happened
quantitine 2 years ago
wow great result around 8:10
ZawEatsFish 2 years ago
Impressive game from Tsinghua. And the player is actually a Z, not P?
emeringmock 2 years ago
Yeah, Orion was standing in for another player, so he played the other player's race.
His main race is Zerg.
His Protoss is quite scary too, though.
Danceofmasks 2 years ago 3
Oops, sorry .. thought Cholera said so before the cast, not during.
Danceofmasks 2 years ago
I'm surprised there isn't a single terran on these teams.
bronx43 2 years ago
Dumb question, but: How do you get the APM info in the top left corner? Thx. Great commentary, btw.
Cosd52 2 years ago
Very nice storms at 19:05
shraphen 2 years ago
solid play from both amatuers
s1lvrFoX 2 years ago 4
u mean more like gosus XD
Mercyless1233 2 years ago
I would say they are more akin to 중수 and not so much 고수:P
HumanStrategy 2 years ago
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THE NEXUS GOES DOWN!!! lol nice game
Gilbertownsyou 2 years ago
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nice spoiler asshat
Ummhowaboutno 2 years ago
That looked like a pro gram! Very good harassment and storms, and great hyrda micro in the early game. Nice commentary.
mrsmi1ey 2 years ago 2
Damn, that was an awesome game. Some of the cotter cup games haven't been so good, so this one was like fresh air :P
RaitzeR1 2 years ago 4
wow fucking huge protoss dragoon army!
hollowsoulreaper 2 years ago
pimpin o:
Iaaanxd 2 years ago
Don't the players say every game is a "gg"?
Ben9023 2 years ago
yes, its convention, and good etiquette to do so
clo5ure 2 years ago
...is it bad that I only clicked because it SAID (Good game!) on it?
LiothOvercast 2 years ago
not bad, really, there was some poor play in the finals
PrinceofGonzo 2 years ago
I guess when you're used to pro games, everything else, except FFA's, are generally lack of play/boring.
Aeth666 2 years ago