Darfur proves liberalism is a mental disorder

[conservativeco]

Everytime a liberal opens their mouth it's proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.

[Darkrunner1975]

The U.N. is the most gutless, ineffective turd of an organization ever founded.

[jciemielewski]

China was vetoing the UN's attempt because they were suppling arms to the oppressors and were profiting from colonizing africa....

[midgety1]

Fuckin necons what a bunch of sick fucks. you act like united states taking on Darfur is a bad thing. woman and children are being murdered there and burned alive you sick freak show piece of shit. as for China they are making a great deal of money off the oil there and are the ones supplying the arms for the genocide so of course they are going to veto it .. fuck them

you support the Iraq war Why are we there .. WMD's no i mean ... al qaeda. ..wait noo I mean Iraqi Freedom?

what the fuck

[zTiamaTz]

I'm sick of us having to stick our necks out for 'peace keeping' and helping other countries out after natural disasters.

The rest of the world openly hates us, we shouldn't give them a fucking thing. We should stop spending money to help ungrateful countries and sending troops to fight wars that don't concern us.

The UN is completely worthless, all it's trying to do is get us involved in this 'world government' crap. No thanks.

[HolyHellPreacher]

"Also Darfur should be addressed by a United Nations Peacekeeping force (U.N.), however whenever the subject comes up at the Security Council, it is Communist China which veto's the idea, thus allowing the genocide to continue in Darfur. "

Tony, I thought the U.N. was for weak? Bush wanted to go assault Iraq and asked for U.N. help. He didn't get it. So, he just did it anyway. Why not defy the commies by doing something good?

[CapitalExchange]

Just curious as to why the Europeans didn't stop Darfur?.

Because they have become ineffectual.

They would rather sit on their lazy communist liberal ass's and complain why we didn't do anything, then actually taking action themselves.

[jacobins3000]

Ya its a lot fucking easier to destroy combat aircraft on the ground than it is in the air. Seeing as the U.S. has done absolutely nothing to stop the genocide for the last 7 years, I hardly think it matters too much whether or not Sudanese planes are able to get in one last bombing run.

[LonelyJudd]

Maybe instead of making fun of their suggestions, you should come up with your own? Or are you saying the United States shouldn't try to stop the genocide in Darfur? And this video doesn't "prove" anything, it just proves that someone who had a stupid solution was a liberal. I'm sorry, but this just isn't a very good point, it's just an association fallacy.

[PropagandaBuster]

This video's paramount topic is not about the tragedy in Darfur, but the stupidity of liberals in the USA news media. I am doing something about those dopes by posting this video. Please stay on topic. Thanks.

[LonelyJudd]

Yeah, so you're admitting that it's an association fallacy. "X is stupid. X is a liberal. Therefore all liberals are stupid." I can't believe someone your age would make such an immature claim.

[PropagandaBuster]

Pardon me, was it me or was it you who wrote that claim?

[LonelyJudd]

It was you who made the claim that "liberalism is a mental disorder" based off of one person. I just simplified it in a way that you could see how illogical it is.

[PropagandaBuster]

Liberalism IS a mental disorder. Don't blame me for that, blame the liberals.

[LonelyJudd]

I'm blaming you for making a broad claim based off of one person, which is an association fallacy. You try to refute this by saying "BUT THE CLAIM IS TRUE!", and assume I'm blaming you for this truth, when I'm blaming you for the claim you make without sufficient evidence. That's two more fallacies on your part.

[PropagandaBuster]

Huh?

[LonelyJudd]

What don't you understand? I'm calling out your irrational claim and explaining why your arguments are fallacious.

[FuckObamasMama]

Liberal Fascism.

by Jonah Goldberg.

It's the liberal mind exposed.

[andersmusician]

wars from a materialist purpose point of view (See money/economy trade) are the true ones.

That's why unrational wars like Nazi's or even humanitarian's most times fail.

PS: yeah, nazi and liberals in the same category, but for the topic wars only.

PS2: modern liberalism, in its goverment-branch is the opposite to totalitarianism/facism; in its politics-branch it opposes to conservatism.

[fahs]

Exactly. Modern day liberalism is more like Nazism.  We are not headed for socialism, but fascism.

Liberals like to point fingers at conservatives as being like Hitler, yet liberalism is more closely related by far.

[Patchman123]

Tell that to Bill Clinton that our military shouldn't be used for "humanitarian purposes" It's a waste of resources.

He's obviously a poor strategist who does not know the use of modern air power or air power in general. You're supposed to show the bomber in flight, before it drops it load. You want to let the bomber kill innocent civilians? Then bomb them on the ground? This is crazy and a poor use of air power!

The poor people being bombed are going to wonder, "Where's our air protection'?

[cowboy45678]

liberalism is a mental disorder

[Diao1Ren]

all my chinese fellows leave this psycho die himself.God wil never bless us,he bless those killers,cheaters,liars,politic­ians.we have been sufferring from all the disasters,but we are still there standing strong,because we believe in ourselves.we trust in ourselves.

[SmashTheRight38]

Also the vast majority of liberals don't call for military use in Sudan. The hypocrisy here are neo-cons who thought going to war in Iraq for humanitarean reasons was justified while being inconsistent in places like Sudan and countless other countries where there was as much brutality as Saddam.

[PropagandaBuster]

Please do not think me rude for not addressing your comments. As I did not want to upset you further with, oh its me again.

[youngdrodeau]

Do you realize that our justice system is "supposedly" a humanitarian one.The whole justification of the police force & jury is that they are non-partial and have nothing to gain?

[PropagandaBuster]

youngdrodeau: Are you aware your above comment has absolutely nothing to do with this video? Could it be perhaps you meant to leave that comment on another video?

[youngdrodeau]

Maybe I should of expounded.See,humanitarian acts are more justifiable because of impartiality.Fighting a war for profit isn't.All the wars we have fought with interest at heart have had more resistance & more backlash here & abroad.And guess what,we usually dont end up getting what we wanted.We're wasting billions in Iraq for oil and Iraqis are blowing it up.

[youngdrodeau]

Further,I would argue that Americana itself is a mental disorder.I think that the slaughter of the Natives & slavery warped our values from the beginning.We had to justify trickery & immorality.We got really use to oppressing & liberating people on our terms & now cant accept that we cant do that to everyone in the world.

[PropagandaBuster]

Fighting "humanitarian" wars are not constitutional. The main purpose of our military constitutional is to protect us from enemies both foreign and domestic. If you want to assign a "mental disorder" to the USA because of the slaughter of Natives and slavery, you would then have to assign it to Europe and Africa, both of whom profited from the slave trade and established it.

[youngdrodeau]

Maybe so,I dont know about those countries because Im from America.But its kinda evident that our America thinks we can fuck with everybody and they will except it like black people did.We're tryin that shit with Iraq and findin out that it doesnt work with them.

[PropagandaBuster]

You are much too angry of a person to debate with.

[youngdrodeau]

I know I need to expound more on this theory,so Im working on a book on the subject.And make no mistake,this is not an indictment on the US.I love this country.Just an analysis.

[skld46]

No! U are the mental disorder! youngdribble!

[fahs]

AS AN AMERICAN INDIAN.....

I find your statement offensive. Don't tell us we have been oppressed, when you are an ancestor of the oppressors.

We love our country, and are proud to be Americans. It is only Indians of watered down genetic stock and white liberals telling us we are oppressed to absolve themselves of white guilt that bring that crap up. People like you are keeping reservations poor by telling us we cannot make it in life b/c of the past. Mind your own biz.

[SmashTheRight38]

Oh its you again. The idiot. First you start with the false premise that so called 'liberal' Ny Times with the same old tiresome right-wing cliched that somehow the NY Times "berates" this country. I wonder how an obvious ignoramus reconciles this view of the NY Times with the fact that the NY Times was front and center in (mainly via Judith Miller)

promulgating the Bush administration's propaganda regarding WMD's and given credence to frauds like chalabi.

[dinnerbucket9]

Thanks to the spending binge the Bush administration has been conducting for the past 7 years [ most of it due to the trillion dollar disaster in Iraq] 'we' are deeply in debt to, you know, the good people running Saudi Arabia and China. Difficult to conduct a get tough policy with those who can cripple your economy if they call in their loans, eh?

[yfh920]

I don't agree with the WW3 though.

What I was trying to say is the Darfur issue isn't just about "human rights" but has more to do with politics. Same applies to the Tibet issue.

[PropagandaBuster]

Once again the theme of my video was the stupidity of The NY Times and American liberalism, not Tibet.

[yfh920]

I'm a Chinese canadian.

Sure I'm more pro-China, but I don't support communism.

Btw, i don't think China is a complete communist country anymore. It's half-communism half-capitalism or somewhere in transition, in my opinion.

[PropagandaBuster]

In China the economics may be capitalist, but we all know the powerful and independent military are communist.

Oh, my 4 grandparents were born in Italy, but I am American first and foremost. My loyalties lie with the USA, my family heritage with Italy.

[streetboys7]

in China the military and goverment is part of the ccp.

the military cant be communist, it is not supporting communism,do u think China can implement capitalist reforms without military support? it is communist only becos it is part of the ccp.

[PropagandaBuster]

If the Chinese military are not communist, then what are all those commissars doing in their ranks?

[yfh920]

Here is a video talking about the Darfur issue:

starts at 04:20

4/7/08: Free Tibet Conspiracy, Zimbabwe, World War 3, ect.

watch?v=a1E09sS-42g

[PropagandaBuster]

Where in Mr. Steinberg's video does he discuss the topic of this video? The topic of The New York Times attempting to be military experts and the sickness that is liberalism.

[yfh920]

why can't the US stop messing up the rest of the world?

Economic sanctions and bombs will only cause more problems and death. The saction on Iraq didn't work out but caused hundreds of thousands of death due to food shortage. Now, after 5 years of war, is Iraq any better?

Just let other sovereign countries sort out their own problems. The US government could've done a better job to improve own problems if they don't interfere in others.

[PropagandaBuster]

You are changing the subject and not addressing the subject of this video. Are you an American liberal or a paid communist?

[yfh920]

I do wish someone would pay me for those arguments.

Just don't mark anyone having a different opinion as "communist" or "liberal."

[PropagandaBuster]

YOu are correct, I should not do that. So then tell me are you a communist, liberal, or a conservative?

[zhangyileo]

everyone disagreed with you being labelled as "paid Chinese communist agent", why can't you change a bit of your prejudice attitude.

[yfh920]

I have some arguments here:

First, in November 2004, the U.N had already conducted a 4-month investigation in Darfur. They didn't find any evidence of "genocide".

Sure, there is human right violation in Darfur due to the war ,but even the US government cannot find hard evidence of "genocide".

Second, China is only one of the 7 countries providing weapons to Sudan. More than that, Sudan itself is the third largest weapon manufactor in Africa.

[PropagandaBuster]

The U.N. could not find the fountain in the East River outside their office building in Manhattan. So please do not use the U.N. as an authoritative source. Call it what you want, innocent civilians are be slaughtered in Darfur. I think you are the only human besides the communist overlords who deny the genocide in Darfur. Remember, Communist China did veto the U.N.'s attempt to send a peace keeping force in the region.

[yfh920]

China did veto in the past.But they didn't veto in the recent votings.I think when comes to international affairs, China always consider sovereignty as the most important.

The US government doesn't give a damn to the U.N. anyway. Was there any voting for the Iraq war?

[takasito]

Japanophobia(check on wiki, it does now include anti-whalers as well) is exactly the word for you to protect whatever you like. I do not have anything against the people of China. The CCP and its hypocritical diplomacy with the Sudanese regime, meanwhile Japan has been trying to ban any light arms trade.

[TheCZMan]

Hey, no needs to make me right every second of my life. I already stated that you could only look at Africa through the benefit you could gain in your power politics approach.

Fact is that Darfur is only one conflict going on this continent. Negroes are backward and unable to manufacture a modern weapon. So where do the other weapons come from?

[TheCZMan]

As to gun traffick in Africa, you sound like you do not know much about who provides the guns there... Mind you, there are other conflicts (including one regional war) on this continent and guns providers are well known in most of the cases? So maybe a vid about this point, Mr.Propaganda. Ummmmm, no. I dont think. There are negroes down there and it can be tedious for a US citizen to spend time on this kind of people. Better spend time excusing "no foreign signs" stuff from your own side.

[takasito]

Other arms exporting nations apart from China stopped trading arms to Sudan. There is one nation called Communist China since then has exported arms there.

[takasito]

Darfur and Iraq the same thing? Is Sudan situated nearby Israel and threatening? or did Sudan cheer after 9/11? A humanitarian mission which was vetoed by one nation which has been selling arms. Is bombing the bombers only after the bombers bombed more civilians? that is Liberal and GWB is not liberal (or mentally sick) to plan any non-sense like that.

[1920bears2008]

PropagandaBuster

You can not get a country that has no regard for human rights of its own people to care for human rights of other people. Look at not only Darfur but North Korea, Burma and other countries that China supports and their respective human rights issues.

BTW, Looks like your weather is better then ours up here.

[PropagandaBuster]

Yes, the weather in Texas now is great, and wonderful for me to do my yard work.

[1920bears2008]

It snowed here a bit Sunday but today is nice. I might even get a chance to wash the car, lol.

[TheCZMan]

By the way, your opinion is intriguing. It is not US interests to help stoping mass slaughters. Great. Really great.

[PropagandaBuster]

How come it is not in the interest of YOUR country to help stop mass slaughters?

[TheCZMan]

My country is only a small replica of your country. You will have a hard time finding excerpts of declarations proclaiming how my country has to stand up against this or that abomination on the behalf on humankind.

But for me, it would be a doddle to do so.

So is the US dropping the flag or pretexting human life has value is only convenient when there are vested economical interests behind?

[PropagandaBuster]

You still have not addressed the question. Why does not your country stop the slaughter?

[TheCZMan]

I did not address the question. Really? I already commented your inclination to require answers to your questions several times, a sign of power lust and a need to show who the boss is. No surprise for someone who is so much in power politics.

I answered to your question. If one point in this answer is unclear to you, point it out and I might consider expanding on it.

So far, I answered to your question.

[TheCZMan]

By the way, as an addition to your lust for power (the Bible god would not be happy here. Be humble! Be humble!) I must underline that you dont bother answering others'questions. Must an issue of respect and politeness.

[PropagandaBuster]

No it is you trying to exercise power by changing the subject. You make a statement, I question that statement, you avoid the issue, the call me being on a power trip. Please stay focus. I still do not understand why your great nation is not trying to stop the slaughter in Darfur?

[TheCZMan]

What point did you not understand in my answer?

"My country is only a small replica of your country. You will have a hard time finding excerpts of declarations proclaiming how my country has to stand up against this or that abomination on the behalf on humankind."

Please point out. Or do with that answer.

I did expect the number of times China used veto since UN creation (you can add US use of vetoes) and the UN Darfur resolutions you investigated and blocked by China.

[PropagandaBuster]

So because your country is small it gets exempt from trying to end the slaughter in Darfur? That is a weak defense. Look at Israel, their tiny size does not stop them. If size is a reason to play humanitarian then why are you not urging Russia, India, and China to stop the slaughter? Sure the USA used the veto in the UN. Can you tell me how many times the USA used the veto to stop an attempt to end the slaughter of civilians?

[TheCZMan]

My, my,... Please tell me that you are playing stupid in this. I cant believe you dont understand my answer. My answer comes from the very fact that the US has self proclaimed champion of a certain set of values.

I see you did not bother to answer my question "Has the US dropped the flag or human life has only value when there is vested economical interest behind it?"

I also asked the number of times China used its veto and what UN Darfur resolutions you said you investigated and blocked by

[TheCZMan]

China? Which one?

As to your answer on how many times the US has used his veto to block a UN resolution tied to slaugthers of civilians, I wont bother investigating it because as the US has mainly used its veto on Israel tied topics, you wont receive none of the answers because very likely, there is no civilian among Palestinians huh?

[PropagandaBuster]

The vetos was used to thwart a condemnation, not to stop a peacekeeping force. Please stay on topic.

[TheCZMan]

The vetos was used? Are you hit by a GWB mouth slip?

Still waiting for my answer.

Hint: Darfur conflict is a not that old.

Browsing from its year start to now could help.

By the way, which veto? Sorry but I am still on "the vetos was"...

[takasito]

US is not the only nation suggests any resolutions to maintain our civilization, freedom as well as the security, but US is more likely abused only because those liberal people "Euro-trash" do feel envy of it. The super European Union has done anything? Normally the Communist China abstains, unless it has anything to do with Taiwan (then veto), however for this particular case, they do not like the idea of penalizing Sudan. It is indeed from their "friendly" foreign policy in Africa.

[PropagandaBuster]

"Friendly foreign policy in Africa." The Chinese government is selling weapons to the Sudanese government who in turn use those Chinese made weapons to slaughter the civilians in Darfur. Do you not think China has a responsibility to apply some "friendly" pressure on their friends in Khartoum?

[takasito]

Yeah "friendly" and "helpful" foreign aid to Africa where more likely their "aid" is used for genocide. China did sign the UN Arms Trade Treaty and stated

"China believes that legitimate arms trade plays a part in national

security, defense needs and economic interests of each country."

Very ambitious China to let the genocide continue. And we all know that China has been aiding Sudanese government.

[streetboys7]

u talk about not wanting american military to be used for humanitarian missions. yet u talk about using chinese government instead. why not the american government try instead.this geopolitics though, China would want to protect its ally,americans would try to undermine it.

[PropagandaBuster]

Comrade streetboys7: Did your commissar assign you to my videos?

[PropagandaBuster]

Okay a civics lesson here: Per the U.S. Constitution our military is only to be used to protect America, Americans, and America's interest. I hate to write this because it sounds heartless, but Darfur does not fit into any of those categories. Where are the other African countries? I know the communist in China vetoed the UN peacekeeping force at least once, and for the civilians in Darfur that is one too many times.

[TheCZMan]

Good. Sounds like your presidents need to go back to classroom to learn their civics lessons then. Could dig up a declaration made by GWB on the war against Iraq (motives to go there), could dig up the conclusions of the WW2 and stuff like that. For presidents who are dead, going back to the classrooms is going to be hard.

As to make it clear, I did not ask your opinion on the topic but how your country has self proclaimed champion of certain human values.

[TheCZMan]

Good again to see that the respect of these human values are not part of the US interests( still no answer to my question: Has the US dropped the flag or has human life only value when there is vested economical interests behind?)

I did not ask what you know of vetoes.

I asked you the UN resolution relative to Darfur blocked through a Chinese veto.

What reference? It should be easy to do given the number of veto used by China since UN creation.

[isthereapoint]

i am sorry. but i do think military in Iraq does not fit in the categories either. if u can, watch "loose change", and bust that one. i have a hard time not accepting it.

[TheCZMan]

Thanks a lot for proving the point I made earlier. Only stuff on Africa where it can be used as an assault on China and the fake blame game between empty of sense premade ideological labels: lib, con, rep, dem.

As the situation might be considered serious, better to get your facts straight.

You claimed that China keeps vetoing any resolution of the UN. Well, I would like to know the number of times China used its veto from UN creation.

I would like to know what UN resolutions you investigated

[TheCZMan]

on Darfur which were vetoed by China.

Joseph Goebbels has this on you: he self declared a proud propagandist.

Again power politics. Nothing else.

Good news is that I will be able to hear the other guys on their recipes for the area of the world.

[Isotoma]

「... 思い出してくれ、ニューヨークタイムズ紙は、

テロとの戦いで、アメリカの秘密情報を暴露してテロリストどもを­助けてきた。

米国のメディアは、米軍が中東などで国益を守る戦いをしていると­き、あら捜しをしてきた。

リベラル派の連中は、米国の軍事力は国益の為ではなく人道的作戦­に使われるべきだと言ってきた。

で、今度、スーダンのダルフールで起きている大虐殺の問題だ。

連中、これは国連平和維持軍に委ねるべきだという。

しかし、この件は、既に国連安保理で取り上げられるたびに、中共­が拒否権を行使して潰してきたから、ダルフールの大虐殺が こうして放置され続けているんだぜ。

また、具体的な軍事作戦の内容についてだが、連中は、なんと、ス­ーダン軍が、一般市民に爆撃しているときは介入せず、爆撃か成功­して、無辜の民が殺された後に介入しろ、と言うんだ。

一般市民の犠牲が出るのを防ぐ為ではないのだ。

リベラルの連中は精神障害だってことだな。... 」

[folker2006]

翻訳サンクス！

中国が介入しないのは資源獲得の為なのかねぇ・・・

国連も頼りになりませんな、もはや形骸化しとる。

[Isotoma]

よく言われるのは、こんなところでしょう：

中国は スーダンに武器を輸出して稼いで来た。

中国は スーダンに直接投資してきた。特に石油インフラ。

中国はその見返りに50万バレル/日の石油を得ている。

中国は元々産油国なのだが、最近の経済成長で、自国産出分だけで­は足りなくなった。

スーダンには地下に石油が眠っているが産油インフラが不足してい­る(orいた)。

[Isotoma]

誤訳の訂正です。

米軍が"国益"の為に中東などで戦っているかのように書いてしま­しました。

これでは、中国がチベットやスーダンでやっていることのような意­味になってしまいます。

元は、"American interest which is constitutional" ですから、

本当の意味は、「アメリカが国是どおりの自由と民主主義の国であ­る為の戦い」

といった辺りの意味だったのだと思います。

お詫びして訂正いたします。

すみませんでした。

多分、今まで これ以外にも色々間違えてきたのではないかと思います。で、それ­に気が付いて不愉快に思いながらも堪えてきた方も居られることと­思います。

その点も、ごめんなさい。

[folker2006]

訂正ありがとう～

以前はニコニコのほうに字幕付きでupしてた方が

いたんですが最近忙しいのか無いんですよ

なのでここの翻訳は本当に助かります

これからもよろしくです～

#親父さん　随分と緑の多い所に住んでますね　羨ましい

限りですｗ

[rodneykingman]

If Jesus was walking the earth today and he was pressured, influenced, or just wanted to vote on his own free will, knowing the Holy Bible, knowing God's teachings, knowing the way Jesus was, knowing the Golden Rule; Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and the Commandment; Thou Shalt Not Kill, and Love your neighbor as yourself, knowing all of this and taking it all into account...cont...

[rodneykingman]

cont... Do you think Jesus would vote for Cheney, Bush, McCain and/or the Neo-Cons or do you think he would vote/support other than the Neo-Cons. Truthfully Propaganda Man. No explanation needed, just a simple answer to a very real, hypothetical question. Who would Jesus support? Who would Jesus Bomb?

[runisunke]

Ok, ok that was a stupid plan, but anybody can take one event caused by anything (liberlism) and make it look bad.

For example here's a minor event cause by conservative thinking......the Iraq War :O

BTW I am not an Lib, iam moderate.

also BTW, PB did you ever serve in the military, if so did u serve in any operations/ conflicts?

[QuartuvLarry]

People have become comfortable and complacent. The hardy folks begin to dwindle. How much double-speak do the leftards expect us to take at face value?

[ikuyasu]

China will send their military as United Nations Peacekeeping force.

[pizarroluigi]

I'll believe it when I see it.

[DrBenDoverHere]

hahahaha, you crack me up ikuyasu

[PropagandaBuster]

ikuyasu: How could China send a peace keeping force when they keep vetoing the idea in the Security Council?

[takasito]

Maybe the commies can sell more arms for encouraging genocide and nobody will be able to see the reality because the "peacekeepers" will block?

[kenn56789]

china , and un council very they wanted to see america weak and police the world . liberalism is mental disorder my opioin they need to u.n pacekeeper or china army ?

[ikuyasu]

Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. But I know that china sent troops in the name of PKO to Uganda or something. I am saying that U.N. is crap, we can't really expect much from it. We shouldn't "worship" U.N. as an absolute justification. John Bolton is kind of correct, but it just looks bad to mention it so much publicly.

[HelloPrim]

the world are always unfair also its not only belong to west, time is change.

and everybody knew the big country always have trouble with some issues

[ikuyasu]

It may be a good strategy for China to agree with sending PKO to Durfar, then they can send their troops and they can legally support genocide in Durfar directly using their own troops not indirectly by selling weapons.

[BrandNewAge]

Gah, I read some article the other day, wasn't in NYT I don't think, but anyways some news paper reporter was talking about how it's good for America to let the value of the dollar fall.

Anyways, I think the important thing to remember here is that these newspaper reporters are just that, newspaper reporters and nothing more. They may influence the everyday person, but luckily it's only lobbyists with their money that influence politicians.

[DrBenDoverHere]

I've heard everything now. We have many Sudanese refugees where I live. What is going on there is horrific.

That giant squirrel in the background was so enthralled by your sermon he didn't move an inch.

[PropagandaBuster]

That squirrel was turned into a pillar of salt (cement).