Thanks for sorting out Dave Lehman's ancient Greek, JamBrop. Though Lehman's pronunciation of ancient Greek may not be as exemplary as yours, he does seem to know a thing or two about the lecture topic - WH Auden!
this is the horror of post-post-post-post (ad nausea) modern poetry & poetics; mid & sub mediocre poets allying themselves with a fabulous name & TRUE poet such as Wystan Auden... Dave Lehman's almost old enough to have known Auden, and how much he DESPISED this kind of academic bullshit! & then the silly preamble about not knowing how to pronounce "Philoctetes" (Fill Oct Ta Teez) he got it right, by god, as if that's a surprise, a dried up old professor not knowing Greek!
@crazyxmarine I'm not sure where you're coming from on this. Anger, jealousy, whatever. I'm not in the habit of adding to You Tube comments, but I can't abide a Greek mistake. He did not pronounce Philoctetes correctly. You showed your ignorance by saying he did. The emphasis is on the first TE sound; one should say philoct-TAY-tease. Few professors know Greek these days. Particularly English professors, and I speak as someone trained as a classicist who now works among English Professors.
What an interesting lecture, in such conducive surroundings. I recently began to read Auden and this lecture has helped me to find a way into Auden's work. Thanks
Thanks for sorting out Dave Lehman's ancient Greek, JamBrop. Though Lehman's pronunciation of ancient Greek may not be as exemplary as yours, he does seem to know a thing or two about the lecture topic - WH Auden!
dlmlewis 6 months ago
FYI: Correct, @crazymarine: Philoctetes (Φιλοκτήτης) Philoctētēs, or stess on the penultimate (next to last) syllable.
Alas, I, too, pretend, at times, to know anything, but, as a non-existing illusion, I lie.
cieobt2 8 months ago
this is the horror of post-post-post-post (ad nausea) modern poetry & poetics; mid & sub mediocre poets allying themselves with a fabulous name & TRUE poet such as Wystan Auden... Dave Lehman's almost old enough to have known Auden, and how much he DESPISED this kind of academic bullshit! & then the silly preamble about not knowing how to pronounce "Philoctetes" (Fill Oct Ta Teez) he got it right, by god, as if that's a surprise, a dried up old professor not knowing Greek!
crazyxmarine 1 year ago
@crazyxmarine I'm not sure where you're coming from on this. Anger, jealousy, whatever. I'm not in the habit of adding to You Tube comments, but I can't abide a Greek mistake. He did not pronounce Philoctetes correctly. You showed your ignorance by saying he did. The emphasis is on the first TE sound; one should say philoct-TAY-tease. Few professors know Greek these days. Particularly English professors, and I speak as someone trained as a classicist who now works among English Professors.
JamBrop 1 year ago
What an interesting lecture, in such conducive surroundings. I recently began to read Auden and this lecture has helped me to find a way into Auden's work. Thanks
andrewnorris1 2 years ago
Another good series.
2bsirius 3 years ago