TPMtv: Sunday Show Roundup: Ballistics, Bankruptcy, and Barbs

[moneshaduh]

you will find a bloody body in your closet hanging there haunting you and will kill you and ur family and if u want to stop this just sends this to 6 videos in 30 mins

[salbella50]

Have anybody seen fat newt when bush was in office for the last eight years...I don't think so...didn't you ass hole hear President obama...this is change ...live with it...

[CaramelAnt]

Newt Gingrich was yesterday's news fifteen years ago.

[WKaliberr]

I'm the master

[Allmyd1]

Slavery! The US can't compete in the manufacturing world any longer! They must drive wages down to the level of China in order to survive. It's not the unions fault, it's GLOBAL TRADE POLICY FAILURES!

[3star2nr]

I can kind of see your point. That has allowed companies to outsource labor to foreign countries and then claim "buy american"

bahahahahahaha Look at a corvette its practically mexican.

[keithproctor]

Reagan had the same "fantasy foreign policy" of nuclear disarmament.

[mike50333]

...Is Susan related to Condelezza, by any chance?

[MooseOfReason]

No. Similar in many ways, but they are not related, according to the New York Times.

[DoctorDoubleX]

I dont know but she is the wife of the producer of THIS WEEK

[MooseOfReason]

Rice said North Korea launching the missile was a violation of international law.

Does that mean we will be withdrawing from Iraq, as invading there was also a violation of international law?

[UltraSWG]

"Does that mean we will be withdrawing from Iraq, as invading there was also a violation of international law? "

The U.S. is already withdrawing from Iraq.

[MooseOfReason]

Is that 19 months or 23?

[UltraSWG]

It takes longer to fix a blunder than to create it. But to be sure, most Americans recognize that Iraq was a mistake, including our current president. So we made a commitment to leave. It's a start.

[OlivierdeAthos]

The memo got passed down to the Vice President, but he was asleep when it arrived.

[KidVolcano]

I don't understand why it's ok for Pakistan to have nukes and not NK. Seems like Pakistand is less stable and closer to american interests.

[bakwas]

yes why its ok that israel has all these weapons.

[TedinLasVegas]

It's realllly simple.

Who is most likely to use those weapons in an offensive manner?

[KidVolcano]

And somehow the only nation who has demonstrated the capacity to use nukes offensively has more than anyone and nobody seems to care.

But my point was that Pakistan is, arguably, one of the most dangerous countries due to political instability, and North Korea is really more china's problem.

And I have more faith in China's ability to handle NK than I have in the US to handle the Pakistani situation.

[TedinLasVegas]

You almost have a point. Putting aside the fact that we saved lives by dropping the bombs (25 Million expected casualties if we had invaded Japan instead of dropping the bomb), I think you have to look at who is targeted by Pakistan's and NK's bombs and those target countries' abilities to deal with the problem...

[Namari12]

The difference is that Pakistan, while it has a great deal of unstable elements within the country, actually has much more stable *leadership* than N Korea, and that leadership participates in the international system. Pakistan may do things that we don't particularly like, but we can trust that Pakistan will do what is in its national interest, behave rationally, and follow the doctrine of MAD. With NK, we have no such guarantee, because Kim is crazy and NK is a failed state.

[sachaput]

Why do they continue to bring that blowhard Newt on the air and give him a forum?

[OlivierdeAthos]

Because he makes Democrats look good?

[cat00012000]

I wish they could post more of these. I really look forward to them and hate when I miss them

[burntonion05]

Bush kept us safer. But not safe (from the banks). Great job neocons. Now stfu

[olof790217]

This is so ridicoilous, everyone who have spent any time studying the world knows that N. korea is totally harmless (China will not allow them), and they know that if they ever actually do something China will squash them like a bug. The co-denpendency between the US ( + u can say the western world) and China is so big nowadys that this should be and is the least of your (the US and the rest of the worlds) problems.

[go4011s]

I don't think N. Korea is being viewed as a direct threat. The concern is over proliferation. As one of the poorest economies in the world, N. Korea could potentially be the bargain bin of missile technology.... or not.

[olof790217]

..and what do you actually mean with that... are you actually going to control all the proliferation all over the world and consinstanty control the levels of arms in "unfriendly" places, but what about friendly? If we disregard the pretty obvious never achiveable nuclear goal, are contries not allowed to test rockets? satelites? excercises? which countries? wich countries control?

[olof790217]

continuation:

...You cant pick and choose wich countries that are allowed to possess rockets all over the world its allways going to be arbitrary.

[olof790217]

Clarification:

"If we disregard the pretty obvious never achiveable nuclear goal"

Because China will never let them.

[olof790217]

..and what do you actually mean with that... are you actually going to control all the proliferation all over the world and consinstanty control the levels of arms in "unfriendly" places, but what about friendly? If we disregard the pretty obvious never achiveable nuclear goal, are contries not allowed to test rockets? satelites? excercises? which countries? wich countries control? only democracies? anything to do with UN human rights record etc..

[go4011s]

I'm not suggesting any kind of solution, mandate, judgment or otherwise... so "what I mean" doesn't aim to provide for any particular objective... I'm just saying...

I would like to point out that N. Korea is not totally harmless though; they've certainly wrecked havoc on their own population and abused humanitarian aid in epic ways. Just because their damage is in a bubble, does not mean it is not damage.

[lamouchemorte]

well put.

[marniespeaks]

time to face reality this was economic terrorism by the banks and the Bush Admin

our financial system is bankrupt

we are on the brink of a tax payers revolt

perhaps a revolution

[RexT42]

Is it just me or does Geithner look like a Ferengi in this clip? Not saying anything about the politics, I just think its funny :)

[OlivierdeAthos]

No, he's starting to look like Eraserhead. I feel sorry for they guy, having to do EVERYTHING in the Treasury Department, up to and including delivering his own mail from the mailroom, and sweeping the floors after everybody else goes home.

[3star2nr]

GM doesnt mind the government taking over and helping them restructure yet the republicans have a problem.

Why wont they just shut the fck up

[TedinLasVegas]

What a stupid question!

Why don't you?

[3star2nr]

whats a stupid about it seriously whats the republican suggestion? Do nothing? Give GM TAX cuts? Whats their alternative plan?

They dont have one they just like running their mouths off about shit.

[MooseOfReason]

3star2nr, GM doesn't mind? One guy, the newly appointed CEO, doesn't mind the government "assistance".

Unless, of course, you have a poll of GM's workers, how they feel about having their tax dollars transferred from their wallet to the higher-ups, who are planning layoffs.

[3star2nr]

hmm now you raise an interesting point.

Which do the GM employees prefer, their tax dollars that they would have to pay anyway go back into the company to keep it afloat so they will be able to keep getting a paycheck at the end of the month. Or for the government to do nothing and let the company declare bankrupcy and fail and get nothing.

I dont know about you but 85% or worse case 75% of a salary is better than no salary at all. But I guess everyones priorities are different

[TedinLasVegas]

Here's an idea! Let GM file bankruptcy so they can get out from under those foolish, job-killing union rules.

Then they can be profitable again!

[3star2nr]

As much as I dislike GM and the rest of the american car industry, I feel it for the workers.

Its not their fault why GM got to that point its the guys in charge. For too long they have been restricting innovation and product development all in the aim of maximising profits.

Engineers have been forced to work on increasingly tighter budgets and still churn out a competitive product. The result is they have had to cut materials costs, which reduces the reliability and build quality

[3star2nr]

Contrast this to the japs and the europeans, who encourage innovation.

In a free market economy a "decent" product wont sell. Not when you can get "good" or "excellent" for the same money.

The reviewers have been screaming at them for years, owners and enthusiasts have been saying the same damn thing, Its like they're deliberately not listening.

GM's response is the trick people with their "buy" american adds. Have powerful lobbyists in congress to fight out international companies.

[TedinLasVegas]

Tell me, why is it Toyota can build similar cars that cost less money to buy?

Because Toyota is non-unionand the labor costs are dratically less even though Toyota pays, on average, more per hour?

The unions are killing GM, Ford and Chrysler, not the leadership.

GM has more, high MPG cars than any other manufacturer and is farther along the electric car development than anyone else.

GM is cutting edge.

The UAW is killing them.

[3star2nr]

nah boss its more than the unioin, GM outsources alot of jobs to Mexico, where they arent affected by unions. Whats hurting them IS THE LEADERSHIP.

Look at the qualifications necessary to become an engineer at toyota compared to the qualifications needed to become an engineer at GM. In Japan they hire kids fresh out of college. Here you need 10-20 years experience to even be considered. How are you going to be innovative, if your hiring old people to work for u?

[TedinLasVegas]

Why is it that the average labor cost to build a GM car is about $4,500 per car but only $1,750 per car for Toyota? LABOR UNIONS and their defined benefit retirement plans.

GM is still giving paycheck to retirees - just like Ford and Chrysler. Toyota, on the other hand, is modern and innovative enough to have a defined contribution retirement plan rather than those 19th-Century defined benefit plans the UAW foisted upon GM, Ford and Chrysler.

[3star2nr]

There is a reason why they're running the same technology from the 1950s.

They have the capability to innovate. But they dont want to spend the money on R&D, and develop a good product. They rather put the money in their pockets.

Dont believe me that there is a quality difference, check out a Dodge neon or any saturn and then drive a civic or a toyota. The difference in quality is night and day.

Reviewers have been screaming this customers also. Their response is to blame the workers.

[TedinLasVegas]

Your crazy, right?

GM is leading the innovative curve on electric and fuel-cell cars and somehow they're still running on 1950's tech?

You're either crazy or ignorant.

I have a Dodge Neon, been driving it for 5 1/2 years now, and would rather have that than a Civic or Corolla. Its been extremely reliable and the few time I did have a problem, it was a cheap and easy problem - NOT like a Civic, which NEVER has a cheap or easy problem.

[Alderon714]

You know the American Revolution was fought over less than a 2% tax.

Now you with this statement support a 15-25% tax on top of the existing taxes to be "allowed to get a check".

Yep that would be what is wrong with America today. NO BALLS.

[3star2nr]

actually your misinturpretting my point. It would be to pay 15-25% tax TOTAL.

A rise in tax of 2% is NOTHING. If that means I can keep my job for that then fuck yeah i'd take that option.

[Sourcererdolphin]

Geithner doesnt know what he is talking about at all... he is worthless

[Alderon714]

Amen,

Tho he is doing a good job lie'n to the public that the banks know where the money has gone and we the public/people can actually get those records.

HR 1207 Audit the Fed -- Call your rep today and get them to co-sponsor it. Then maybe we can find out where all the pieces of paper went to really.

[Sourcererdolphin]

Geithner is a wallstreet guy. He never accomplished anything and as a reward he kept getting promoted. Him and Obama condem the action of wallstreet, call it greed, but bail them out at the same time. They are accomplices. We are not all in this together. The companies that blew cash should be held accountable and go bankrupt. How can we tell our kids whats right anymore when they witness this. We need to regain freedom and liberty. Lets end the Fed and reestablish the republic!!!

[ver506]

That sounds really good in theory, and i'm sure if it could be done, i believe that Obama would do it. However, if some of these institutions fail, the financial system will indeed collapse. The financial system is not all bad, and allowing it to collapse will hurt even people who were innocent in all this.

What you're saying sounds so good in theory, but like many things in life, it's a little more complicated than that.

[cminmd0041]

What is Stabenow taking about. 1st chance- running GM into the ground. 2nd- one government handout. 3rd- second government handout. That puts the big three on their fourth chance which may be bankruptcy.

Bush a statesmen? Did anyone else throw up just a little when he said it? But I agree. Bush and Condi have been classy since leaving office.

[FoShizzle951]

Republicans destroyed America.

[KidVolcano]

They had help.

[Madmoe77]

Yeah those who voted republican out of fear lol

[PersonalJesus348]

Here's a hint their mascot goes "HEE-HAW"

[MooseOfReason]

Uhh... PersonalJesus348, that's the Democrats' mascot - donkey.

The Republican mascot, on the other hand, is an elephant.

[PersonalJesus348]

They had a greedy hand in this. You can't say they didn't. Pelosi didn't want impeachment. Obama doesn't want to prosecute. What has changed?

Politics as usual. Republicans had help from the Democrats.

[mike50333]

No offense dude, but Pelosi and Herry Reid did try to get him Impeached, and they're still trying to convince President Obama to prosecute.

[PersonalJesus348]

Is that why Pelosi said "Impeachment is off the table"?

[Pleblian]

I guess North Korea wants some more money. The US pays them $60b a year, for what? So they can build rockets?

[PersonalJesus348]

its probably deeper than that. I wouldn't be surprised if they manufactured our military's arms cheaply.

[WKaliberr]

N Korea are more dangerous than Denmark

[KidVolcano]

Which is itself nearly as dangerous as Lichtenstein.

[cpricejones]

Come on, let's be honest. I think its danger lies somewhere between Lichtenstein and Andorra.

[puffyDK]

and America is more dangerous than N Korea

what does Denmark have to do with anything btw?

[TedinLasVegas]

Really? So we're still occupying Denmark, Germany, France, Italy and all those other European countries that we liberated last century?

Get real! The only reason you get to be comfortable is because you depend on us for your protection. Denmark couldn't hold it's own if it weren't for your big friend over here.

[KidVolcano]

Go back to your devilistic ghost town, ted.

[flang]

Corker is a jackoff.

[Richardgwm]

Go Newt Go! Sink that Republican party. Confirm the Republicans as the party of "NO".

[boots920]

Vietnam:

10 years of chemical warfare (Spraying of Agent Orange)

The land is poisoned for all time, the people are on their 3rd generation of birth defects.

Korea launching a puny missile doesn't even come close to the severity of war crimes committed on a country and people.

[voyeurdug]

Who?  Hu.

[kelseywall]

Cheney's such a dick.