"Safety for the Soul" Part 2 - Jeffrey R. Holland 2009 - Solemn Testimony of the BOM

[Xarnius]

How anyone could reject a testimony such is this is beyond me; but if it is rejected, it will certainly be shown to them that reject it that they are the words of Christ.

[omiolo]

He wrapped up in last summer, enrolled at Brigham Young University in August to restart his pitching career, and after going 5-5 with a 2.99 earned run average in 16 games there, he was picked by the Blue Jays in the 29th round of this year's amateur draft. The Blue Jays sent him to Vancouver, their Short-Season Single A affiliate in the Northwest League.

[omiolo]

Cole, a right-hander with the Vancouver Canadians, is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. A two-year mission is customary, though not required, for young LDS men, and Cole's stint was in eastern Canada, including time in Toronto. He went as far north as Kingston, and made stops in Richmond Hill, Oshawa, Whitby and Belleville.

[jrlesa08]

Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. (HEB 13:8) So if God doesnt need a prophet now a days, is this scripture false?? Why wouldnt God want to speak with his Children. Dont we need to hear from God more than ever with the filthiness of the world bombarding us on all sides? Families are being torn apart from drugs, alcohol, and infedelity.

[magnus56j]

@jrlesa08 I find it ironic that you believe this scripture passage of the New Testament to be true, considering it was the Catholic Church that gave it to you. The Catholic Church defined the canon of the New Testament in 393 AD at the Council of Hippo. You Mormons accept the New Testament exactly as the Catholic Church defined it. It is so contradictory for you to say the Catholic Church fell totally apostate, yet they were somehow able to infallibly determine the canon of the New Testament.

[magnus56j]

@jrlesa08 To add, since it was the Catholic Church that infallibly determined the canon of the Bible, it makes sense that the Catholic Church is the only Church that can infallibly interpret it. The Bible came from the Church, the Church did not come from the Bible. Jesus founded a Church, not the Bible. Also, the Catholic Church preserved the Bible over the years. If it were not for the Catholics, you would not have a Bible, or a "church" for that matter.

[DoYouKnoTheMufinMan]

thank you for uploading, i've been looking for this for quite some time

[omiolo]

Teens anchored to faith in many ways; commitment extends beyond praying and church attendance

Deseret News

[omiolo]

Here were the best-selling products at Deseret Book last week. Josh Wright's debut CD actually topped the Mormon Tabernacle CD, which is a big accomplishment...

[jerryleaves]

Folks, there is only one way to figure out if Mormonism is true or not and that is research, research and more research. God gave us a brain for a reason and it isn't simply to obey the theatrics of a man in a business suit on a pulpit. Google Fairlds, Mormonthink and Utlm for a balanced look at this religion.

[koloblicioius]

So Holland is basically saying that the one of the reasons the church is true is because Joseph Smith died for it? He must really think we are stupid.

[THELDSLIFE]

@koloblicioius - Think Jesus Christ is the savior and he died for his message too.

[chickenlegs301]

@koloblicioius

Did you not listen? That is not all he said. He said why would Joseph Smith make this up when it would cause for him and many others to be driven out of their homes, for children not to have friends, and if necessary, to die for this truth.

[Princitius]

@koloblicioius so you're basically saying after hearing about 50 different factual evidences supporting the church, all you got out of this talk is Holland wants you to think the church is true because Joseph Smith died for it? I really think you're stupid.

[Kendanism]

God will not usually confirm the truthfulness of something to us with a "slap upside the head" unless he deems it necessary to do so. For the majority of us he expects us to persevere and push forward with faith, to keep praying, and reading the scriptures for answers. After we have done our part he will reveal the truth to us softly with the Spirit. Our bosoms will burn within us and we will feel within our hearts that it is true. But it comes very softly the majority of the time. Be ready

[Kendanism]

I am so grateful to have a prophet today who gives us council, guidance, and direction that comes directly from the Lord, meant for all of us in these Latter days. I am grateful for the impact that the Book of Mormon has had on my life. I have never felt happier than when I have followed the teachings that come from the Book of Mormon, as well as the Bible. They work together so perfectly and it is fantastic to finally have the full truth and not have to put up with things being misconstrued.

[Kendanism]

God does have an efficient way of spreading the gospel. People just choose to harden their hearts because they don't want to know the truth. Because if they found out it is true then they would have to change their lives. But a lot of people just don't want to do that. So then they try holding on to any negative thing that goes against truth so they can have an excuse not to accept it. But it will catch up with them. You can trust me on that. You can't hide forever.

[Kendanism]

Joseph Smith knew he was going to die. He knew what would happen when he went to Carthage. But he also knew that he had done the work that the Lord had sent him to do, and that he would be saved. He absolutely knew what was going to happen.

[Kendanism]

All I can say, is that if a person really wants to know the truth, they should stop being lazy and making wrongful assumptions, and instead go and search for the truth by actually reading the Book of Mormon and then sincerely pray about it to know if it is true. If a person isn't willing to do this then they have no room to speak. I have done it and have found the truth out for myself. I have followed teachings from the Book of Mormon and have partaken of the blessings that have come from it.

[JSeely218]

Acts 3: 19-23 is referring to times past - not times present. Amos-god gave him a vision to warn those that would harm his people. Amos 8:11-12 nobody had an appetite for Gods word when amos spoke it, God would take away the oppurtunity to even hear it, The answers are in the Bibles scriptures. I' don't think you understood them quite right. There is nothing indicating that Gods words are lost or needed to be rstored...what are you smoking?

[THELDSLIFE]

@JSeely218 - What do you remember about the Famine which was caused by Elijah? How many years? How does a Famine coincide with the loss of Truth/ loss of prophets? It's also mentioned a lot in Daniel and Revelations. The Apostasy was CONSTANTLY mentioned of both in the OT and NT but your interpretations seem to wrest the scriptures... 2 Peter 1: 19-20

[magnus56j]

@THELDSLIFE Apostasy is mentioned in the Bible, but it never mentions a total apostasy of Christ's Church. Also, your cult is hypocritical for even accepting the Bible, considering it was the infallible authority of the Catholic Church that determined what books of the New Testament were inspired and what weren't at the Council of Hippo in 393 AD. You Mormons accept the canon of the New Testament exactly as the Catholic Church defined it, at a time when the Church was supposedly totally apostate

[THELDSLIFE]

@magnus56j - Read Amos 8:11-12 - It's this Apostasy that was prophesied of the Bible. Check it.

[magnus56j]

@THELDSLIFE No it isn't. Read the chapter in context. The apostasy mentioned in Amos was an apostasy in Israel, not in Church (not after NT time), and it was NOT total. Read Amos 9:8-10, it proves it wasn't total. Total apostasy is never mentioned in the Bible, in fact the Bible speaks against a total apostasy. Read Daniel 7:13-14, Ephesians 3:20-21, Matthew 18:15-18, and John 17:20-21.

[JSeely218]

There is no where in the new testement that states that prophets were still needed after Christ was sacrificed, give me 1 (one) verse that says that prophets were still required after Christ died for you and me!. I wish I new how to tell you otherwise but I feel it's all in vain, maybe the Good Lord won't reveal this truth to you or other LDS at this time, I don't know, only he does. keep kicking it back and i'll see what else i might have to say.

[THELDSLIFE]

@JSeely218 - Acts 3: 19-23 is a fantastic indication that the Lord would continue using his method for revealing lost truth in the latter-days. Read and re-read this one.

Look up key words like, "Restitution" and learn what it means in contexts 'Restitution of ALL THINGS"

Then read Amos 3:7. In Amos we learn the necessity of having prophets or not... and through what means the Lord would reveal certain truths or anything missing.

Also read Amos 8:11-12. (The truth would be lost to the world.)

[JSeely218]

I'm sure you might be a nice person and i do not hold you accountable for the mormon churches teachings but you should try sitting in a christian church and hear what they say on the subject. don't take my word for it!. better yet go to blueletterbible and listen to raul riess click on the audio/commentary link on the left side of page. you can hear what dozens of ministers have to say.

[THELDSLIFE]

@JSeely218 - Isaiah 28:7-9

I prefer my nutrients by the milk that only a prophet of the Lord can give... versus gnawing on the bones in the boneyard. The revelatory banquet is available for all yet many would prefer what ELSE is being served up on the tables. People suggest I've never been to other churches.

But under the light of continuing revelation and God's continuance with Israel and it's gathering, I would prefer to be no other place than amongst those of Modern Israel.

[JSeely218]

I will never believe any teachings from seventh day adventists or jehovah's wittnesses and in order for J.Smith's teachings to work he has to lower the diety of Christ and God in order for it to fit his interpretations are wrong and false and filthy!

[JSeely218]

I trust only the Holy Bible for God's words and teaching, I do not and will not ever believe for one moment that there is any validity to the book of mormon.

[JSeely218]

The Holy Bible, That's whom!

[THELDSLIFE]

@JSeely218 - The holy Bible according to whom? Even Isaiah warned us about our day in Isaiah 28:7-10 saying that the word of the Lord would be skewed and altered and interpreted falsely.

[JSeely218]

I can't prove that the Easter Bunny is real, or the Tooth Fairy, or Sants Clause, with "any" credible evidence, shure there are letters to santa and we leave a coin under the pillow, or that rabbits can lay "eggs" no matter what you feel may be true feelings, but their isn't any evidence to back up that it's real. If they (mormons) can produce 1 piece of credible evidence to it's authenticity that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that these claims are real they would get more respect. They Cant

[THELDSLIFE]

@JSeely218 - Snore.... ZZZZZ.... don't you have a life to waste pursuing the sins of the flesh?

[JSeely218]

@THELDSLIFE Nope mormonism is false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, false,false!

[THELDSLIFE]

@JSeely218 - according to whom?

[chickenlegs301]

@JSeely218

are you kidding me? that is exactly what the BOM does. If you read it with an open heart, you WILL receive an answer. The gospel is true! I hope one day your heart will be opened to this truth!

[omiolo]

From the Book of Mormon we learn about those on the path who were “continually holding fast to the rod of iron,” 11 likening it to “the word of God.”

[omiolo]

Unlike Lucy, today we are blessed to have more than the Bible. We have latter-day scriptures and the words of our latter-day prophets to “safely guide us” 10 on the path to eternal life.

[ScienceReasonBelief]

At 0:18 Holland implies the Smiths were willing to die for the "gospel". That's ridiculous. They fully believed that they were going to be rescued by the Nauvoo Legion... they had no clue that they were going to their deaths. So much for Holland's argument!

[S7556307]

erm the words agency and faith come to mind!!!

[S7556307]

Fools mock but they shall mourn!! Oh how guilty would you feel standing before Heavenly Father and our Saviour Jesus Christ after mocking them. The Book of Mormon is true, it changes lifes. The Church is true.

[ScienceReasonBelief]

@S7556307

The church is false.

Why else would it grow so slowly? After 180 years, it can claim LESS than 1/4 of ONE percent of the world's population! You'd think that if God REALLY had such an important message, he'd find a more efficient way of spreading it.

The mormon church is false.

[omiolo]

We cannot gain a testimony of The Book of Mormon until we read it and pray about it. Similarly, we cannot gain a testimony of home teaching unless we do it,

[omiolo]

Young women who want to complete Personal Progress work online need to obtain their membership number from their temple recommend for baptisms or their ward clerk and then register. And although their parents, leaders and bishops can track their progress, their online journal is private and secure.

[Cookster232]

The Man is too inspiring.  Makes you just want to go out and tell everyone the good news. Good thing i was a missionary when he gave this adress. I love how he used common sense to sure the validity of the Book of Mormon. cant wait for the saturdays october address.

[ELIRACUNDO]

that is true! 

[omiolo]

Latter-day Saints in her native France, arrived in Utah this summer as an English student[delete comma] but found herself involved in a youth activity, a four-day pioneer trek commemorating the tedious journeys of the early Utah settlers

[blaylockm]

People can Say all they want!! All i know is that its true and because the truth of the BofM can bring you happiness and hope... Thank brother Holland for this wonderful and touching talk :)

[brotherfrank62]

he who has an ear to hear let him or her hear!

[omiolo]

Capernaum bears witness of Christ

[omiolo]

Besides trying to provide shelter, the church's primary focuses are establishing a bishop's storehouse to store and distribute provisions and aiding in employment opportunities.

The LDS Church has property and plans to build a bishop's storehouse in Haiti, but the Freres neighborhood land is still housing some 360 homeless, with the meetinghouse grounds now clear of temporary residents.

[omiolo]

The church has since hired a local building contractor to oversee future efforts while continuing to donate to other NGOs, such as International Relief and Development, which is building multi-shelter communities on open properties.

Soon after Haiti's quake, the LDS Church began its blitz of food and relief supplies and sent its first-ever volunteer team of doctors and nurses — 14 specializing in trauma, orthopedics and emergency care — to provide early response medical aid.

[awolLDSasap]

whoa, Sidney Rigdon has made Holland weep again.

[THELDSLIFE]

"... and I was in this land and they would not receive me, but they cast me out and I was about to set my back towards this land forever."

Alma 8:24 -

This is evidence that Joseph Smith translated this book vs wrote it. If Joseph wrote it, proper English = "Turn my back against it." vs a phrase such as, "Set my back towards"

(An authentic Egyptian Phrase, BTW)

No where in the Bible does it read one sets his back towards the land he chooses to no longer visit..." and it's not proper English.

[masterskyrunner]

@THELDSLIFE I know, people don't seem to get that the English portrayed here is way outdated.

[S7556307]

I love the Gospel. I am grateful for my Saviour Jesus Christ and for what he has done for me. The Church is true and those mocking will have to stand before their Father in Heaven and the very man who died for them! Although im not anywhere near perfect and make mistakes I would dread having to meet them after mocking!! Oh how guilty you will feel!!!!

[THELDSLIFE]

And now I, Moroni, bid farewell unto the Gentiles, yea, and also unto my brethren whom I love, until we shall meet before the judgment-seat of Christ, where all men shall know that my garments are not spotted with your blood.

And then shall ye know that I have aseen Jesus, and that he hath talked with me face to face, and that he told me in plain humility, even as a man telleth another in mine own language, concerning these things; Ether 12:38-39

[THELDSLIFE]

Keep the commandments of the Lord...

In this there is safety and peace!

[iqlusionblogspot]

No amount of sacrifice or suffering for a doctrine makes the doctrine true.

[THELDSLIFE]

That makes the doctrine of Christ true?

Are we just supposed to believe it without recognizing the sacrifices of the Jews?

Has anyone tried to reclaim them?

Are we more blessed than they?

Or are we just supposed to all come to the same conclusion logically that "Jesus Christ" died, came back to life, and played "Peekaboo" with his disciples for 40 days?

[67dodgepolara]

Has the Holy Ghost confirmed to you with it's still-small-voice that the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ is not true ?? Fifteen-million of us will testify to you that we KNOW it is true, and nothing you ever say will change our minds. The Holy Ghost has written it in our hearts forever ! I'm so grateful for my testimony !

[THELDSLIFE]

Hey guy. I was playing devil's advocate with (Iqlusionblogspot) ... lol

I have a testimony of the Gospel. I was trying to make a point! *chuckles* but I'm glad to see I have a friend in the 15 million able to back me up! (view some of my other videos and you'll see I don't always play devil's advocate but I also take on Satan and expose him for the fraud that we all should THINK he is)

[67dodgepolara]

my reply was meant for iqlusionblogspot, sorry...

I got your back !!

[THELDSLIFE]

LOL... its cool!

I hope you're finding these missionary tools as helpful! TTYS, Josh

[iqlusionblogspot]

The absence of a response from God after years of praying that he would tell me how to "fix" my gradually failing testimony is suggests to me that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is not true.

You say "we KNOW it is true, and nothing you ever say will change our minds" which nicely sums up your interest in the truth.

In contrast, If God unmistakably told me the LDS Church was true, I would re-convert without the slightest hesitation. You see, the truth matters very much to me.

[THELDSLIFE]

Do you seek after signs from heaven?

[iqlusionblogspot]

Well, I don't seek very hard any more, but frankly, I'd welcome any communication from God. I'm open to the truth, so if I'm wrong about the LDS Church, I hope God sets me straight ASAP.

Still waiting...

[THELDSLIFE]

So do I...

[THELDSLIFE]

We are late into the final seconds before Christ's return... now would be a great time to get things set straight.

[awolLDSasap]

@iqlusionblogspot  did you ring? There ain't gonna be no communication about the truthfulness of this trap...

[67dodgepolara]

My interest in the truth is of the utmost importance, and I'm glad it is for you also. The response you seeked is only available to those who become humble and offer the Lord a 'broken heart and a contrite spirt'. Also one must first be obedient 'as if' the gospel is true, only later does the reward of a confirmation from the Holy Ghost come. That's the way it's been for me anyway. I wish I could help you.

[THELDSLIFE]

Thank you for your sincere testimony. I hope he who is at iqlusionblogspot will get this

[omiolo2]

"we know of a surety that the work is true"

Witnesses to the BOM of old and today!

[omiolo2]

I really can't **nevermind** that the wives will be widows and their children fatherless.