What is the best way to play premium hands AA KK QQ in 9 seated Sit 'n' Go's in ANY position. I always lose with these hands!!! I call to see the flop quite alot because when i raise big or go 'all-in' i get overtaken with trips,flushes,two-pair etc. So is raising big always the way to go???
@johnnycheck99 actually you should alway re-raise before the flop to get value from those premium hands. If you let your opponents see a cheap flop every time, THEN you will often lose to two pairs, trips. etc. If you raise pre-flop, you don't give your opponents a chance to draw cheaply. You either win the pot immediately if everyone folds, or you will play a big pot against just one or two opponents, and you are still a favourite to win. And if you get it all in before the flop, it is great.
@superjeff14 Exactly, this guy is stupid. There's a thing called, getting information, mini raise hoping for a reraise with a dominating hand etc.. He's so linear in his thought. He hears "don't low ball" that bet, doesn't think for himself.
@sfgox10 You get very little information on a min raise pre flop as ur gonna get called most of the time anyway. Furthermore, he had QJ, which is not a great hand. The guy then calls an all in re-raise with his crappy QJ, so the commentator is correct in his reasoning that both players made bad plays in this example.
poker calculators are for fish, i used one when i first started and lost lots of money. have fun with it but it takes more than that to win. go read some books, watch some vids, and learn, after awhile you don't need a calculator it's auto- pilot and becomes natural. It's a game of people played with cards. when you play the player you will win.
so many morons on online poker. i've had a guy calling with 2 3 offsuit all the way to the river, as it turns out he backdoored his 3 high flush.......
I think the whole point is, its wrong to push out worse hands and get called be bigger hands. Very risky sng stratagy. Not a good play according to i.c.m. which better sng players play by. Plus he's making a joke of this too, and Turtleknife is a winning player btw.
No matter what anybody does you should act a little bit more professional. There's no point in calling someone a moron...you should know that.
I agree this wasn't a good call, but still it's an EV+ move. Usually, multitabling nits will make this move, and you can't call them morons because mostly they're profiting from poker.
I personally know few of them, poker pros, playing sng (16-24 at once) an they will for sure make a move like this. EV+ moves.
playing this hypo is pretty standard at the low stakes when i was grinding them, i prefered the more conservative route, still do, but i knew a lot of good players that used hyper aggresion to counter the passive looseness of the low stakes and their ROI's were often higher than mine, a lot more variance but by the end of the month they were making more per tourney / $, plus they seem to be able to play more tables because they cut out most of their post flop decisions
i like those adverts that have all the stars saying things like, we play at poker heaven . com! etc, cos basically i avoid those sites! Why the hell would i wanna play against them lol... the adverts should have some drunk guy blurting out, i lose all my money at poker stars .com.. those sites i click on
can you tell me something about calculator you using...is it part of full tilt or you have to purchase ...sorry im absolute beginner and trying to learn as much as possible
So, the small stakes players play the same as the free players? It looks like my personal rule of always folding the 1st hand (except for AA) in a sit n go, to stay out of the way of self-destructing morons, applies to small stakes as well as free play.
Maybe I should make a small deposit & play some small stake games.
I play alot of free 90 player sit n gos, and almost always make it to the "money" (no great feat--ya can just fold into it), often get to the final table & occasionally win.
shoving in with the jacks only worked because the even bigger moron at the table called with QJ. Its obviously a terrible move with only 120 chips in the pot. The funny thing is that your hand (A2) would of won making a wheel. Although some would have called the all in with that hand any ace for that matter. You see it all the time on low limit sit n gos and mtts.
@VLenzer Actually for a learning player who wants to brush up on his win odds vs a particular hand, these calculators are great little tools. It takes a lot of time to memorize all these odds and percentages. Just having an interest in poker is enough to justify using a poker calculator. I often run my hand histories through a poker calc to check my chances vs. my opponent at each stage of the hand.
But if you're just taking a pop at TurtleKnife, his Sharkscope results speak for themselves.
The instant shove there isnt that bad. When it is the first hand ina sit n go players just assume you are a donk if you instant shove. It tends to get a lot of loose calls. I do it often if i wake up with AA or KK in the first hand and i have a very high call rate from lesser hands. I wouldnt do it with JJ though
I agree with his comments about the mini raise being a bad play, however I don't think he's right about the all in move with the Jacks, this is theoretically correct according to many poker theorists on Sit N Gos that after any raise pre flop you push all in with big pocket pairs and AK, if you get called and lose you were unlucky but most of the time your going to take the pot and the times you do get called most of the time your a big favorite.
so can u tell me.. when or how much do u raise when u have a good hand.. or how do u pull the money out without a mini raise.. its a genuine question as i am learning more about poker day by day...
A standard raise is 3 times the big blind (this is if no1 has entered the pot). If some1 has entered (just called the BB) then a standard raise would be 3 BB plus 1 BB per limper. There is a lot of literature online you can read about this, just do a google search. Also poker pros daniel negreanu and gus hansen have several poker stradegy videos on youtube
you learning to play sit n gos? if so, I HIGHLY recommend you read Colin Moshman's Book, Sit n Go Strategy. In this example, you should reraise. Most players when they reraise make it 3 times the initial raise. But in this example, you have two additional things to consider. One, the limper in second position, and two, you are out of position. Most good players would hit the pot button and then increase it by maybe a blind/two in this situation. Conclusion for this hand, raise 200-240 range
i play 6$ 6max tourneys at pstars, i run at 21% roi, 12th place on sharkscope leaderboard. what that guys talking is BS, i make that much money cuz i exploit these fishes, i always minraise preflop, and minbet the flop alot and u can win like that easy....
hahahaha right so gus hanson doesnt know what hes is talking about right hes a millionair poker player for a reason everythign he says is exactly true so you must be a donk who thinks he is soo good
gus hansen ??? strategy ??? i agree with most of what u said min raise my big blind im calling with any 2 cards but i wouldnt say its stupid if your good enough to play the board it can be good strategy ppl do find it hard to play back at it , its negranu's prefered method yet he is another level . anyway not alot of strategy here more commentary and common sense :)
This stuff is just basic logic. Any good player knows this stuff. I don't even need an exact % to know my odds, I'm simply not stupid. Only fishes play the way this guy describes.
What calculator tool is he using? Although I can calculate odds very quickly, this has far more information at the touch of a button. If anyone knows please respond.
that commentator guy is fucking funny!!. HAHAHA!!. he's calling them MORONS and dopeys!! hahaha!!. oh my GOD im fucking dying of laughter!!. but he is rite!! ive seen players make mistakes like that time and time again
that commentator guy is fucking funny!!. HAHAHA!!. he's calling them MORONS and dopeys!! hahaha!!. oh my GOD im fucking dying of laughter!!. but he is rite!! ive seen players make mistakes like that time and time again
JJ is a very hard hand to play preflop and post flop. if there was a raise in front of me i would usually reraie with JJ and play it agressively but if i opened for a raise and someone reraised me then it gets tough they easyly could do that with KK, AA or even AK or a smaller pair. at that point if there a tight player i would fold if they were agresi ve and reraised alot i would push. also there is and exact 50/50 chance that a A K or Q will hit the flop when ur holding JJ
He is out of position which makes it a bad bet. Also, the limper in middle position should have raised instead of limping in if he had a hand. JJ is often beat by players who will call with K10, KJ, KQ, AQ, AK, QQ, QJ, and high pairs and more. That is a lot of outs. I would have raised with the JJ and played it safe but i agree, people do it to get lucky, especially if the buy in is small.
i don't really see a problem with raising twice the bb if it works. i raise to show strength and isolate - get others to fold. if everyone starts calling my min raise at a table, then i may rethink my strategy.. but if you can get others to fold by raising small? why not? how good is your post flop play? just because everyone else raises three and a half times doesn't mean you have to do so also. you do not have to play the same starting hands as everybody else either.
I think he fails to realize that the people that play on fulltilt only play hold'em and only play it badly... any and every two cards is worth going allin or calling an allin.. ive been called to the river by 5 and 6 high flush and gut shot straight draws... theres not any two cards anybody will fold on ftp at any level your playing at too
I would only go alll-in with JJ if I was severly shortstacked. Which usually ends in a win situation since a lot of people call you with crap (seeing your the shortstack they want you gone) and bam, they fail to connect and not only are you back but sometimes youre ahead of the game. Of course you might be unlucky and one of them flops something decent. But that's a risk worth taking.
I think Marty Smith has over reacted slightly to his critiscm of the JJ, mainy poker theroists will tell you to push all in with big pairs after there's been one raise, especially in a situation like this where there are another 4 players behind you. You want to make sure no one can call for value.
Ok your risking all your chips? Well if your called and your behind you just got unlucky. If everyone folds and you just take the pot its not all bad as Jacks can be difficult to play post flop.
I don't like how the commentator here criticises going all-in with JJ's because it's "the better end of a coin flip". It's poker for god's sake, of course you have to take risks, especially if the odds are in your favour.
If I get AA in a SNG on one of the first couple of rounds I will open shove. Generally people will call with anything higher then jacks. It just puts you in such a great position.
lol its hard to believe, but its so true haha i tryed it in 3 SnGs and got called everytime, and i was called by pockets 4s,9s,and 7s lol.. pathetic what some ppl call with hahah..check out my videos guys, subscribe and friend me:)
OH MY FUCKING GOD. have you never played an online tourney before? there is always some idiot who pushes all in first hand. how the hell do you call yourself a professional who is worthy of teaching others if you haven't come to accept that simple fact yet? like hell.
... but 3BBs with Jacks and if u hit the set keep playing them "small ball style" is just a move and not a recommendation for Jacks. If u just raise QQ+ to 4BB and more ur play gets pretty predictable. Also u often have to protect ur set on the flop. it is just plain suicide to slowplay on a flop with a FD / str8.
I find its better to just raise 3 times the BB with JJ. That way, your not investing that much into your group one hand and if the Q K or A hits, then you didnt lose much at all to see the flop and deciefer where your at in the hand. If the flop does hit your J, keep playing them small ball style and you will get paid off big time. Going all in with JJ unless there are 3 or under people left in the tournament, is just plain suicide.
Agreed but if you are shot stacked (like 10 bb) it's a really good hand to move in with :) favorite against every hand except an overpair (QQ KK AA) preflop
Sure, if you make a small raise, you get to fold if the flop shows an A, K or Q. But if the flop doesn't, you're not going to win much either because nobody will call you.
I think in this case the person who made the all-in was purposely banking on crappy players calling him with nothing. And it paid off.
There is no poker strategy that is correct for all situations. This is why some pro's can't handle playing against poor players - they can't adapt to the person they're playing against.
Actualy with JJs I have win at most 10% of the pots,it's a shity pair who get's me in big trouble,after I waste some money and tourney I realize that is better if I play it like a small pair,Marty has absolutely right here!
lol.. you are great! hope to see more of your vids! i just find it ironic that you would have taken this pot with the straight .. lol.. but i totally agree with your methods! KEEP IT UP! hopefully i can get in contact.. :D
Got second in a tournament once without winning a single hand. By the time it was just the two of us, the one lucky moron had 10k chips v 1450, so I went all in with pocket queens and he sucked out.
I'd just like to point out how contradicting this guy is, and how he doesn't back up some of his statements correctly. Sure the JJ shove was a bad move because the pot was small. But who cares if you're shoving it on the first hand, and why is this guy afraid to have "just a 55% advantage?". Um, so calling with A/K against 2/2 is a better play than against J/J??? Umm, no. If I have J/J online, I want a caller. If everyone folded there he has table control/image. This guy's not a good player.
yes it does....FTP is full of idiots....and the small blind made the right move with pocket jacks and a raise in front, it was the guy with the Q/J that is a complete idiot
tell me about it man.. people play this retarded every fkn time.. and whats worse is.. even if you get in with the best of it, they suck out on you!!!!!
what is that calculator..it's like God, but naw..seriously knowing the odd's of the hands would be useful does Pokertracker have this feature, I'm new to online poker but the usefulness of this tool is blatantly obviously.
I think in general is a bad ideea to push all in before the flop,I made from 100$ about 500$ because I made all the possible to avoid all in from preflop,and bet after the flop,after that I lost all my money with premium hands against morons like those ones, 2-1,4-1 favorite involve to much risk if you want to make money from poker!
the JJ push - it is a bad move traditionally becuase of the reasons you point out, but becuase there are idiots playing QJ, A7, A10 all in preflop you are 2 to 1 ahead, which i would take any day of the week, i think Full tilt and online poker in general breeds idiot players and i agree with your general stratedgy becuase over a long time idiots will lose, all you need to do is check sharkscope and you will see the downward lines.
I like the way turtle is thinking. Remember it was the first hand of the tourney. For a start JJ has no idea that this guy is a 'donk', so the argument that QJ was always going to call is rubbish...it was the FIRST hand, u dont know how he plays yet. why put in all of yr stack to win just 120? WHY?? This is just crazy. Unless u know yr player very well (as there are always different circumstances) then it is a riduculous poker play
Marty that only makes sense when you play w/people who know what they are doing.
ON full tilt, 95% of the doinks of there will call off w/ total crap. THe guy w/ JJ probably knew he would get called by a moron holding nothing good, so why not get a quick dbleup.
Uhhh that's not what he said. He said they were all giant morons. A giant moron can have a winning record vs. other giant morons. Obviously he was exaggerating though. And he is right -- these are micro stakes and the vast majority of these players are completely clueless.
moving in with jacks in a low stakes sng is not terrible. He's got a weak raise ahead of him, some idiot who will probably call with something like a lower pair or AQ. If he slow plays the flop might have an A, K, or Q, or straight or flush possibilities, then he'd be sweating. Situational awareness says double up on the first hand and steamroll the table, take the pot with an aggressive raise and set your table image, worst case lose and play another sng.
To the uploader who seems to be making an attempt to show that Gus Hanson's all in strategy on Poker Superstars was bad play:
There is a huge difference between the tournament in your video and the tournament gus was playing in.
In gus's tournament you start out with 300k chips and 20k blinds -- 15 big blinds or an M of 10.
In your video it is a standard 1500 stack with 30 big blind -- HUGE difference. You have 150 big blinds or an M of 25 (as it appears SB is also 30? strange.)
The guy with QJ is not a moron for min-raising. He could have been attempting to use a small ball strategy to see every flop before he value bet. His mistake would have been that he called a re-raise pre-flop that he should have folded on.
wrong again idiot! min raising espec on big blind is maybe the 2nd worst donkiest thing you could do in a poker game... min raising= ur a fckin idiot toolbag piece of shit... anyone who min raises should fckin die right now!
What is the best way to play premium hands AA KK QQ in 9 seated Sit 'n' Go's in ANY position. I always lose with these hands!!! I call to see the flop quite alot because when i raise big or go 'all-in' i get overtaken with trips,flushes,two-pair etc. So is raising big always the way to go???
johnnycheck99 4 weeks ago
@johnnycheck99 actually you should alway re-raise before the flop to get value from those premium hands. If you let your opponents see a cheap flop every time, THEN you will often lose to two pairs, trips. etc. If you raise pre-flop, you don't give your opponents a chance to draw cheaply. You either win the pot immediately if everyone folds, or you will play a big pot against just one or two opponents, and you are still a favourite to win. And if you get it all in before the flop, it is great.
musiljan656 2 weeks ago
Min Raising isnt always bad.
superjeff14 5 months ago
@superjeff14 Exactly, this guy is stupid. There's a thing called, getting information, mini raise hoping for a reraise with a dominating hand etc.. He's so linear in his thought. He hears "don't low ball" that bet, doesn't think for himself.
sfgox10 3 months ago
@sfgox10 You get very little information on a min raise pre flop as ur gonna get called most of the time anyway. Furthermore, he had QJ, which is not a great hand. The guy then calls an all in re-raise with his crappy QJ, so the commentator is correct in his reasoning that both players made bad plays in this example.
theholt45 3 months ago
maybe because it was the first hand?
don't ppl tend to gamble first hand to double up and take control of the table?
WindBreaker77 5 months ago
This is why some people earn money and some dont.
Ex0rz 5 months ago
how much he playing for?
sydneymassive 8 months ago
1:09
Hi idiot, he had a good hand, and wanted to set the bar??
This is standard, stfu
It's called laying a trap
godly04 8 months ago
@godly04 laying a trap??? u stfu and read a book idiot!
amenKilla 7 months ago
90% of the time the guy that goes all in with Q J on the first hand WINS...... It's a big fucking JOKE
TheNipplesofGod 9 months ago
poker calculators are for fish, i used one when i first started and lost lots of money. have fun with it but it takes more than that to win. go read some books, watch some vids, and learn, after awhile you don't need a calculator it's auto- pilot and becomes natural. It's a game of people played with cards. when you play the player you will win.
nomakym 10 months ago
hi, can you please tell me what kind of poker calculator you using
thank you
MrPemtot 11 months ago
should of called, you would of won with the straight.
888markyp 1 year ago
so many morons on online poker. i've had a guy calling with 2 3 offsuit all the way to the river, as it turns out he backdoored his 3 high flush.......
dh144498 1 year ago
Where is Gus Hansen?
ImperiousViking 1 year ago 2
hey what the name of the calculator tool ?
L4StDayz 1 year ago
@L4StDayz Tournament Indicator
Unflushablepiss 1 year ago
he would have turned the nuts, too with the A 2 he mucked. i hate when that happens. (which is every mucked hand on bodog).
1skullduggery 1 year ago
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1skullduggery 1 year ago
I think the whole point is, its wrong to push out worse hands and get called be bigger hands. Very risky sng stratagy. Not a good play according to i.c.m. which better sng players play by. Plus he's making a joke of this too, and Turtleknife is a winning player btw.
dashizzler 1 year ago
No matter what anybody does you should act a little bit more professional. There's no point in calling someone a moron...you should know that.
I agree this wasn't a good call, but still it's an EV+ move. Usually, multitabling nits will make this move, and you can't call them morons because mostly they're profiting from poker.
I personally know few of them, poker pros, playing sng (16-24 at once) an they will for sure make a move like this. EV+ moves.
laky3108 1 year ago
@laky3108 I like morons they usually increase my stack...unless I cant hit a draw and they start sucking out repeatedly...
MafiaWars23 1 year ago
@laky3108 lmao. looking forward to meet u at the table and see you make some of this pro EV+ moves first hand lolol
huisrukker 1 year ago
hah dude you are the best commentator ever .. lol
strexfire 1 year ago
playing this hypo is pretty standard at the low stakes when i was grinding them, i prefered the more conservative route, still do, but i knew a lot of good players that used hyper aggresion to counter the passive looseness of the low stakes and their ROI's were often higher than mine, a lot more variance but by the end of the month they were making more per tourney / $, plus they seem to be able to play more tables because they cut out most of their post flop decisions
imluvinyourmum 1 year ago
i like those adverts that have all the stars saying things like, we play at poker heaven . com! etc, cos basically i avoid those sites! Why the hell would i wanna play against them lol... the adverts should have some drunk guy blurting out, i lose all my money at poker stars .com.. those sites i click on
CarpMagic95 1 year ago
@CarpMagic95 watching Jack Whitehall lately?
daduffer2007 1 year ago
wow...can anyboday tell me where can i get this type of calculator tool??
ty u guys
MrLovingspain 1 year ago
does it really make sense to talk about strategy why jacks went allin and qj calls???
everybody knows that at 6,5 doller sng´s nobody give a fuck of it..... i mean thats about 4 euros....
my opinion is that online games quality start at $20 + games...
just my 2cents ;)
unicut 1 year ago
Hi can you tell me where I can get this calculator tool thank you
MrPemtot 1 year ago
Hi can you tell me where I can get this calculator tool thanx
MrPemtot 1 year ago 4
Resist the Illuminati's Borg agenda, grow a herb/veg garden!
AntiVaccine2 1 year ago
Hi where i can get calculator you using...Im beginner im trying learn as much as possible thanx
MrPemtot 1 year ago
can you tell me something about calculator you using...is it part of full tilt or you have to purchase ...sorry im absolute beginner and trying to learn as much as possible
thanx
MrPemtot 1 year ago
You should have stayed in. You had a straight.
TheNeopointGenerator 1 year ago
So, the small stakes players play the same as the free players? It looks like my personal rule of always folding the 1st hand (except for AA) in a sit n go, to stay out of the way of self-destructing morons, applies to small stakes as well as free play.
Maybe I should make a small deposit & play some small stake games.
I play alot of free 90 player sit n gos, and almost always make it to the "money" (no great feat--ya can just fold into it), often get to the final table & occasionally win.
MrPloppy1 1 year ago
you had straight
lagarw 1 year ago
"he could of easily won it if he hit a queen" ... i dont think easily is quite the word he meant to use.
Deathy666x 1 year ago
shoving in with the jacks only worked because the even bigger moron at the table called with QJ. Its obviously a terrible move with only 120 chips in the pot. The funny thing is that your hand (A2) would of won making a wheel. Although some would have called the all in with that hand any ace for that matter. You see it all the time on low limit sit n gos and mtts.
4pokerlife 1 year ago
well people now a days are better at this limits and I wish there was still silly play like that. Tons of weak regs and grinders.
teoirimia 1 year ago
ta dah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sweetj692 1 year ago
People who are using programms to tell them how "good" their hand is, shouldn't play Poker!
Only my oppinon!
VLenzer 1 year ago 58
@VLenzer Actually for a learning player who wants to brush up on his win odds vs a particular hand, these calculators are great little tools. It takes a lot of time to memorize all these odds and percentages. Just having an interest in poker is enough to justify using a poker calculator. I often run my hand histories through a poker calc to check my chances vs. my opponent at each stage of the hand.
But if you're just taking a pop at TurtleKnife, his Sharkscope results speak for themselves.
cclarke1804 1 year ago
@VLenzer agree XD
Shinigale 1 year ago
@VLenzer It's like not using steroids in the major leagues at this point though. You can still be better but you really gotta work.
JeeRaph 11 months ago
@VLenzer
Bullshit.
whatshendrix 9 months ago
@VLenzer
there is no programm which tells u "how good your hand is" u noob
FakeAssKilla 9 months ago
@FakeAssKilla yeah there is, donk
MarcowaR 9 months ago
@FakeAssKilla ah yes there is! u noob lol
areyawell1 9 months ago
@VLenzer he knows how good his hand is...he's just using the program to get the exact numbers. this is helpful when making tough decisions
ketchup143 6 months ago
You are a poker analyst god.
frankiedetorie 1 year ago
what poker program is this guy using?
SPIDER 1 year ago
The instant shove there isnt that bad. When it is the first hand ina sit n go players just assume you are a donk if you instant shove. It tends to get a lot of loose calls. I do it often if i wake up with AA or KK in the first hand and i have a very high call rate from lesser hands. I wouldnt do it with JJ though
smccr04 1 year ago
@smccr04 Yes, I make that play too. I did it today with AA in a MTT. I got a call from KTs and doubled up. Nice. :)
tomminter 1 year ago
I agree with his comments about the mini raise being a bad play, however I don't think he's right about the all in move with the Jacks, this is theoretically correct according to many poker theorists on Sit N Gos that after any raise pre flop you push all in with big pocket pairs and AK, if you get called and lose you were unlucky but most of the time your going to take the pot and the times you do get called most of the time your a big favorite.
24magiccarrot 1 year ago 2
so can u tell me.. when or how much do u raise when u have a good hand.. or how do u pull the money out without a mini raise.. its a genuine question as i am learning more about poker day by day...
psycomico 1 year ago
@psycomico
A standard raise is 3 times the big blind (this is if no1 has entered the pot). If some1 has entered (just called the BB) then a standard raise would be 3 BB plus 1 BB per limper. There is a lot of literature online you can read about this, just do a google search. Also poker pros daniel negreanu and gus hansen have several poker stradegy videos on youtube
yalg22 1 year ago
you learning to play sit n gos? if so, I HIGHLY recommend you read Colin Moshman's Book, Sit n Go Strategy. In this example, you should reraise. Most players when they reraise make it 3 times the initial raise. But in this example, you have two additional things to consider. One, the limper in second position, and two, you are out of position. Most good players would hit the pot button and then increase it by maybe a blind/two in this situation. Conclusion for this hand, raise 200-240 range
SurvivingTheHorizon 1 year ago
A lot of talk, no real case made...
I think this was a good move. Somebody else at the table could have limped in for 60 chips heaving 4 5 for ex. and your Jacks are fucked...
As sad as it is: this is online-poker...
Dryndal 2 years ago
i play 6$ 6max tourneys at pstars, i run at 21% roi, 12th place on sharkscope leaderboard. what that guys talking is BS, i make that much money cuz i exploit these fishes, i always minraise preflop, and minbet the flop alot and u can win like that easy....
smirko 2 years ago
anyone know what software hes using at the bottom of the screen?
doohgk 1 year ago
@smirko Stick to the $6 games then cos min betting the flop against decent players on a regular basis is very exploitable
Seanyboyh 1 year ago
hahahaha right so gus hanson doesnt know what hes is talking about right hes a millionair poker player for a reason everythign he says is exactly true so you must be a donk who thinks he is soo good
chris7sutton19 1 year ago
your playing $6 sit n gos fair enough; but what about when you move up to $20/50 ones and people don't play like spastics
kaiserguru 1 year ago
gus hansen ??? strategy ??? i agree with most of what u said min raise my big blind im calling with any 2 cards but i wouldnt say its stupid if your good enough to play the board it can be good strategy ppl do find it hard to play back at it , its negranu's prefered method yet he is another level . anyway not alot of strategy here more commentary and common sense :)
goonerno14 2 years ago
he is using hold em indicator
nbaker1229842005 2 years ago
This stuff is just basic logic. Any good player knows this stuff. I don't even need an exact % to know my odds, I'm simply not stupid. Only fishes play the way this guy describes.
UndercoverLdn 2 years ago
LOL funny video
string123456 2 years ago
What calculator tool is he using? Although I can calculate odds very quickly, this has far more information at the touch of a button. If anyone knows please respond.
pickpoche 2 years ago 2
@pickpoche
It should be Hold'em Indicator, because Marty Smith is advertising HE Indicator and Tournament Indicator.
douchebag63 2 years ago
tournament indicator, you have to pay but its worth it imo
millsy1987 2 years ago
Holdem indicator
It is not free though
VEILofA1000Thoughts 2 years ago
Just fold JJ preflop any position its a loser 80%
Scarbone69 2 years ago
ahahhaah at 1 minute " your inviting people to come into your hand". lol sorry im immature
shify2k8 2 years ago 62
@shify2k8 I LOLED
PokerHilarity 1 year ago
@shify2k8 lol so 'm I :)
jasminetomcat 6 months ago
yeah great commenting.. i actually watched the whole 4 minutes because of it hahahah
bohemia187 2 years ago
that commentator guy is fucking funny!!. HAHAHA!!. he's calling them MORONS and dopeys!! hahaha!!. oh my GOD im fucking dying of laughter!!. but he is rite!! ive seen players make mistakes like that time and time again
outragedthrone 2 years ago
that commentator guy is fucking funny!!. HAHAHA!!. he's calling them MORONS and dopeys!! hahaha!!. oh my GOD im fucking dying of laughter!!. but he is rite!! ive seen players make mistakes like that time and time again
outragedthrone 2 years ago
2:18 on the oter hand lets look at other DOPEY!!!
HAHJAHA LOL.
rakitipakiti 2 years ago
JJ is a very hard hand to play preflop and post flop. if there was a raise in front of me i would usually reraie with JJ and play it agressively but if i opened for a raise and someone reraised me then it gets tough they easyly could do that with KK, AA or even AK or a smaller pair. at that point if there a tight player i would fold if they were agresi ve and reraised alot i would push. also there is and exact 50/50 chance that a A K or Q will hit the flop when ur holding JJ
pylet41 2 years ago
poket pair got mostly ~ 55% vs overcards
wanttf 1 year ago
What hand calculator tool is that?
PokerPlayer77 2 years ago
Holdem Indicator.
Briarya77 2 years ago
where u get it?
h1tm4n26 2 years ago
the only reason he went all in with jacks is because he knew that someone would call
AND THAT jj IS A VERY POWERFUL HAND
jacobakflip 2 years ago
He is out of position which makes it a bad bet. Also, the limper in middle position should have raised instead of limping in if he had a hand. JJ is often beat by players who will call with K10, KJ, KQ, AQ, AK, QQ, QJ, and high pairs and more. That is a lot of outs. I would have raised with the JJ and played it safe but i agree, people do it to get lucky, especially if the buy in is small.
Tellingitlikeitis09 2 years ago
Wrong about the hands that often beat JJ. JJ would dominate KJ and QJ, and would be the favorite vs KT.
Techn0Tr0nic 2 years ago
hey where did you get that calculator tool!?
skandskate69 2 years ago
there is no right oe wrong way to play jacks in my opinion
andos8888 2 years ago
why don't my comments show up?
kidc2004 2 years ago
i don't really see a problem with raising twice the bb if it works. i raise to show strength and isolate - get others to fold. if everyone starts calling my min raise at a table, then i may rethink my strategy.. but if you can get others to fold by raising small? why not? how good is your post flop play? just because everyone else raises three and a half times doesn't mean you have to do so also. you do not have to play the same starting hands as everybody else either.
kidc2004 2 years ago
I think he fails to realize that the people that play on fulltilt only play hold'em and only play it badly... any and every two cards is worth going allin or calling an allin.. ive been called to the river by 5 and 6 high flush and gut shot straight draws... theres not any two cards anybody will fold on ftp at any level your playing at too
vtdaoutlaw 2 years ago
I would only go alll-in with JJ if I was severly shortstacked. Which usually ends in a win situation since a lot of people call you with crap (seeing your the shortstack they want you gone) and bam, they fail to connect and not only are you back but sometimes youre ahead of the game. Of course you might be unlucky and one of them flops something decent. But that's a risk worth taking.
kerrigor154 2 years ago 4
I think Marty Smith has over reacted slightly to his critiscm of the JJ, mainy poker theroists will tell you to push all in with big pairs after there's been one raise, especially in a situation like this where there are another 4 players behind you. You want to make sure no one can call for value.
Ok your risking all your chips? Well if your called and your behind you just got unlucky. If everyone folds and you just take the pot its not all bad as Jacks can be difficult to play post flop.
magiccarrot24 2 years ago 2
Exactly.
I don't like how the commentator here criticises going all-in with JJ's because it's "the better end of a coin flip". It's poker for god's sake, of course you have to take risks, especially if the odds are in your favour.
hurikai 2 years ago
can u tell me where i can download your calculator please?
YoMaafaka 2 years ago
where can i find the calculator tool?
bizybozo 2 years ago 4
hahaha "lets look at the other dopey"
donttrymesswithme 2 years ago
i think that all-in-caller called with QJ cause he thought he can have 2 overpairs after flop against 10-10 or lower...
kazachkoff 2 years ago
That's a ridiculously bad thing to think.
ckyisyourfuture 2 years ago
If I get AA in a SNG on one of the first couple of rounds I will open shove. Generally people will call with anything higher then jacks. It just puts you in such a great position.
bodysnatcher0421 2 years ago 6
lol its hard to believe, but its so true haha i tryed it in 3 SnGs and got called everytime, and i was called by pockets 4s,9s,and 7s lol.. pathetic what some ppl call with hahah..check out my videos guys, subscribe and friend me:)
curt2418 2 years ago
prob cuz your playin 5 dollar sit and goes...as you move up youll notice donk moves like that wont fly :)
tchamb123 2 years ago
OH MY FUCKING GOD. have you never played an online tourney before? there is always some idiot who pushes all in first hand. how the hell do you call yourself a professional who is worthy of teaching others if you haven't come to accept that simple fact yet? like hell.
Soboredwtf 2 years ago
... but 3BBs with Jacks and if u hit the set keep playing them "small ball style" is just a move and not a recommendation for Jacks. If u just raise QQ+ to 4BB and more ur play gets pretty predictable. Also u often have to protect ur set on the flop. it is just plain suicide to slowplay on a flop with a FD / str8.
baschtiii 2 years ago 2
I find its better to just raise 3 times the BB with JJ. That way, your not investing that much into your group one hand and if the Q K or A hits, then you didnt lose much at all to see the flop and deciefer where your at in the hand. If the flop does hit your J, keep playing them small ball style and you will get paid off big time. Going all in with JJ unless there are 3 or under people left in the tournament, is just plain suicide.
BurningAlienSyndrome 2 years ago 2
Agreed but if you are shot stacked (like 10 bb) it's a really good hand to move in with :) favorite against every hand except an overpair (QQ KK AA) preflop
Strikehard92 2 years ago
Sure, if you make a small raise, you get to fold if the flop shows an A, K or Q. But if the flop doesn't, you're not going to win much either because nobody will call you.
I think in this case the person who made the all-in was purposely banking on crappy players calling him with nothing. And it paid off.
There is no poker strategy that is correct for all situations. This is why some pro's can't handle playing against poor players - they can't adapt to the person they're playing against.
hurikai 2 years ago 5
Actualy with JJs I have win at most 10% of the pots,it's a shity pair who get's me in big trouble,after I waste some money and tourney I realize that is better if I play it like a small pair,Marty has absolutely right here!
Chitzakc 2 years ago
You're playing them wrong...
mindfuqq 2 years ago
lol.. you are great! hope to see more of your vids! i just find it ironic that you would have taken this pot with the straight .. lol.. but i totally agree with your methods! KEEP IT UP! hopefully i can get in contact.. :D
kOr3uPt 2 years ago
your a fukn douche bag
greenbaido 2 years ago
This video is hilarious. "He goes all in for a pot that was a 120 chips, oh my god"
CaptainSpork1337 2 years ago
not bad...
AsiaPokerAcademy 2 years ago
what is the statistical thingie you (he) is using?
erikvanzanen 2 years ago
fake
legio801 2 years ago
eh?
RandomGuy43 2 years ago
there is no right way to play jj only wrong ones
Fishy9000 2 years ago 9
why
Yamakashi1 2 years ago
word, its the worst hand you can get
AocOp 2 years ago
long live the MORONS who cut the field down early, and help us all.
fourthwind1 2 years ago 54
Got second in a tournament once without winning a single hand. By the time it was just the two of us, the one lucky moron had 10k chips v 1450, so I went all in with pocket queens and he sucked out.
Muchodelcrazy 2 years ago
what was your starting stack?
RnDvids 2 years ago
how many play chippies did you win? lol
RandomGuy43 2 years ago
what is the hand calculator program thingy? anywhere you can download it? looks very useful
toreman81 2 years ago
"Then you bet for value .. get this dude to fold"
Lots of contradictory and weak-tight thinking going on in this video.
waxhax0rs 2 years ago
Don't exactly see what this has to do with Gus Hansen but still a good video
TheMork 2 years ago 9
I'd just like to point out how contradicting this guy is, and how he doesn't back up some of his statements correctly. Sure the JJ shove was a bad move because the pot was small. But who cares if you're shoving it on the first hand, and why is this guy afraid to have "just a 55% advantage?". Um, so calling with A/K against 2/2 is a better play than against J/J??? Umm, no. If I have J/J online, I want a caller. If everyone folded there he has table control/image. This guy's not a good player.
Phrentoes 2 years ago
"it doesn't make sense"
yes it does....FTP is full of idiots....and the small blind made the right move with pocket jacks and a raise in front, it was the guy with the Q/J that is a complete idiot
JeeperZJ 2 years ago
"The only reason that this works out is because we have even a bigger moron at the table" ROFL!!!
kratsjovic 2 years ago 37
tell me about it man.. people play this retarded every fkn time.. and whats worse is.. even if you get in with the best of it, they suck out on you!!!!!
geniusjas87 2 years ago 4
Get your cock out and shove it up ur ass.
Thanks
rigbst 2 years ago
"AM I GETTING THROUGH TO YOU" lol.
purdue2009 2 years ago
what is that calculator..it's like God, but naw..seriously knowing the odd's of the hands would be useful does Pokertracker have this feature, I'm new to online poker but the usefulness of this tool is blatantly obviously.
purdue2009 2 years ago
I like that advice "raise big, limp cheap or get the hell out."
purdue2009 2 years ago
I think in general is a bad ideea to push all in before the flop,I made from 100$ about 500$ because I made all the possible to avoid all in from preflop,and bet after the flop,after that I lost all my money with premium hands against morons like those ones, 2-1,4-1 favorite involve to much risk if you want to make money from poker!
Chitzakc 2 years ago
It prolly was Gus Hansen moving in with the jacks, cause i dont see him anywhere
papichulobumber1 2 years ago
the JJ push - it is a bad move traditionally becuase of the reasons you point out, but becuase there are idiots playing QJ, A7, A10 all in preflop you are 2 to 1 ahead, which i would take any day of the week, i think Full tilt and online poker in general breeds idiot players and i agree with your general stratedgy becuase over a long time idiots will lose, all you need to do is check sharkscope and you will see the downward lines.
foraquid 2 years ago 4
im pretty sure thats not gus' voice...
StuntmanTravis 2 years ago
makaron ur so stupid the all-in was pre flop how you can call an all-in with A2
stupid donk
elliottducriss 2 years ago
AAAAAAAHHHH. Scary old ghost... upper right corner
MPETE1976 2 years ago
There's no right way to play JJ
guppy4527 2 years ago 17
there is raise and fold lol
jasonx2k4jasonx2k4 2 years ago 6
100% agreed
KillEveryoneKillPhil 2 years ago
It was a 5$ tourney? I think they knew it was stupid, but they prolly didn't care.
FullTiltAdvisor 2 years ago
i see the STRAIGHT he had A 2 and flop also with turn is good for straight , moron didnt called :d
Makaron9 2 years ago
how is this gus hansen sit n go strategy
smccr04 2 years ago
bull shit, idiots call with any low pair or even A 7 lol number of idiots I run down with JJ or QQ numbers in the hundreds.
yousini 2 years ago
idc about the jj moron? how do u make that call pre flop with qj where did these guys learn 2 play? no strategy at all...
B3LCH3RBOI 3 years ago
Where can you get the caculator tool Gus is useing in this film?
CasualGF 3 years ago
PLAY MONEY.......
dabracan 3 years ago
lol
stupid fish with stupid
dabracan 3 years ago
turtle where do you get your poker calculator from the on that read the flop and turn and river sir
ABDULNO2 3 years ago
ok j-j is the biggest pickle of a hand the best is to just go all in preflop and hope a moron calls u. when a q,k,ace hits flop ur fucked go all in!
djax4mvp 3 years ago
I Agree with @tubesox00.
On fultilt alot people call with JQ so often it's better to move all in when the pot is almost nothing.
This will probably be a bad move on a table with experienced table but on internet sides it's diffrent.
Cabolts3 3 years ago
I like the way turtle is thinking. Remember it was the first hand of the tourney. For a start JJ has no idea that this guy is a 'donk', so the argument that QJ was always going to call is rubbish...it was the FIRST hand, u dont know how he plays yet. why put in all of yr stack to win just 120? WHY?? This is just crazy. Unless u know yr player very well (as there are always different circumstances) then it is a riduculous poker play
LionsMan1984 3 years ago
there are only 2 ways to play J J.......both are wrong
epasseau 3 years ago 5
jj equals all in
djax4mvp 3 years ago
Best way to play Jack jack is to let you raise and trow them away
grenzlooz 3 years ago
Marty that only makes sense when you play w/people who know what they are doing.
ON full tilt, 95% of the doinks of there will call off w/ total crap. THe guy w/ JJ probably knew he would get called by a moron holding nothing good, so why not get a quick dbleup.
tubesox000 3 years ago 3
JJ played it perfect, assuming he knew there were giant morons at the table who would call w/ QJ, TT-22, Ax etc.
TheIllegit 3 years ago
As stated in the video, it was the first hand, so he had no clue. It appears you do not either.
TurtleKnife 3 years ago 2
The 1st hand of a microstakes SNG. Thus he did know, since 100% of microstakes SNGs fit that description.
TheIllegit 3 years ago
I see... so you think that NOBODY in low stakes sngs has a winning record? Carry on then.
TurtleKnife 3 years ago
Turtle, you know you're right, let these morons shove with JJ pre, and I'll call when I've got AA and stack them :D
nikklittle 3 years ago 3
Uhhh that's not what he said. He said they were all giant morons. A giant moron can have a winning record vs. other giant morons. Obviously he was exaggerating though. And he is right -- these are micro stakes and the vast majority of these players are completely clueless.
waxhax0rs 2 years ago
moving in with jacks in a low stakes sng is not terrible. He's got a weak raise ahead of him, some idiot who will probably call with something like a lower pair or AQ. If he slow plays the flop might have an A, K, or Q, or straight or flush possibilities, then he'd be sweating. Situational awareness says double up on the first hand and steamroll the table, take the pot with an aggressive raise and set your table image, worst case lose and play another sng.
pate357 3 years ago
Not true. Shoving with a 50/50 (at best) in the first hand is not only a poor math play, it is a recipe for reloading.
TurtleKnife 3 years ago
how can i get this calculator?
snalijafri 3 years ago
OMG euhhm... Whaaoow.... love it
DeadBoW 3 years ago
I think u comment on this in a hilarious way basically because its so true haha!
shaolin89 3 years ago
what does this have to do with gus hansen?
yowzap 3 years ago
funny thing is, the guy making this video would have won and tripled up. he had the wheel, a 5 high straight.
kshim24 3 years ago
To the uploader who seems to be making an attempt to show that Gus Hanson's all in strategy on Poker Superstars was bad play:
There is a huge difference between the tournament in your video and the tournament gus was playing in.
In gus's tournament you start out with 300k chips and 20k blinds -- 15 big blinds or an M of 10.
In your video it is a standard 1500 stack with 30 big blind -- HUGE difference. You have 150 big blinds or an M of 25 (as it appears SB is also 30? strange.)
pokerslut530 3 years ago
The guy with QJ is not a moron for min-raising. He could have been attempting to use a small ball strategy to see every flop before he value bet. His mistake would have been that he called a re-raise pre-flop that he should have folded on.
ILikeExoticStuff 3 years ago
wrong again idiot! min raising espec on big blind is maybe the 2nd worst donkiest thing you could do in a poker game... min raising= ur a fckin idiot toolbag piece of shit... anyone who min raises should fckin die right now!
arthurgman 3 years ago
his reaction is so funny